Author Topic: Korean Peace Process (Read 56677 times)

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #500 on:** June 29, 2018, 05:52:28 PM »

So weird.

LibBots touted an unsigned meaningless memorandum of understanding (bought for $5.2 billion) with a terrorist state with a deplorable human rights record as: Historic

LibBots (and I know you guys hate history) were filled with joy at this sight. A nation that repeatedly violated nearly every provision of the SALT treaties and with an appalling human rights record

bucket · « **Reply #501 on:** June 29, 2018, 05:53:10 PM »

steve dave · « **Reply #502 on:** June 29, 2018, 05:54:27 PM »

Quote from: sys on June 29, 2018, 05:37:55 PM

https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/1012822744935927808

these are so easy to win

Phil Titola · « **Reply #503 on:** June 29, 2018, 06:18:49 PM »

dunked on by lil rocket man

star seed 7 · « **Reply #504 on:** June 29, 2018, 06:19:55 PM »

it's another work, you rubes

sys · « **Reply #505 on:** July 01, 2018, 12:07:36 PM »

https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/status/1013236749970092032

bucket · « **Reply #506 on:** July 01, 2018, 12:17:14 PM »

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #507 on:** July 01, 2018, 01:42:56 PM »

You’d think Garry would understand how these things work.

He’s been around long enough to know that things like this are often photo shoots. Khrushchev traveling around the US (for example) kissing babies on farms in Iowa changed nothing about the US-Soviet dynamic and hundreds of thousands of people died anyway in the “domino wars”.

Thankfully there is no war on the Korean Peninsula, and hopefully some good will come from this.

Thanks for posting SysBot (but without comment as usual).

Haters of history respond below.

sys · « **Reply #508 on:** July 01, 2018, 08:43:00 PM »

https://twitter.com/JChengWSJ/status/1013562974013800448

chum1 · « **Reply #509 on:** July 01, 2018, 08:46:40 PM »

They're not going to disarm until he gets his Nobel Peace Prize.

bucket · « **Reply #510 on:** July 01, 2018, 08:53:05 PM »

Just as Trump promised.

sys · « **Reply #511 on:** July 06, 2018, 11:41:03 AM »

https://twitter.com/KingstonAReif/status/1015217843116367879

waks · « **Reply #512 on:** July 06, 2018, 11:44:21 AM »

Dax, thoughts? See if you can leave Obama, Clinton, etc. out of it too.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #513 on:** July 06, 2018, 11:59:58 AM »

I'm no dax supporter, but it is genuinely weird to see people rooting against a Korean peace deal/de-escalation so they can make the already obvious to everyone who cares point that Trump is an incompetent moron.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #514 on:** July 06, 2018, 12:05:03 PM »

I think denuclearizing NK is a issue of huge importance and I hope we can get it done. I assume that the only way it happens is we blow it up though...

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #515 on:** July 06, 2018, 12:16:22 PM »

Quote from: Kat Kid on July 06, 2018, 11:59:58 AM

I'm no dax supporter, but it is genuinely weird to see people rooting against a Korean peace deal/de-escalation so they can make the already obvious to everyone who cares point that Trump is an incompetent moron.

Ty!

sys · « **Reply #516 on:** July 06, 2018, 12:18:04 PM »

Quote from: Kat Kid on July 06, 2018, 11:59:58 AM

I'm no dax supporter, but it is genuinely weird to see people rooting against a Korean peace deal/de-escalation so they can make the already obvious to everyone who cares point that Trump is an incompetent moron.

i'm not rooting against a korean peace deal. i'm rooting for other people to understand that there is no possibility of a peace deal to exist within the framework announced.

as i've already mentioned, i think there is a chance that trump can work his magic on 'pub minds and spin them into accepting then north korea is going to have nukes and there is nothing we can do about it. i won't give him any credit for that, because process matters and if he does achieve that, he will have done so using a fundamentally dishonest process that is damaging to our democracy - but it will still be a slightly positive outcome.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #517 on:** July 06, 2018, 12:36:44 PM »

Quote from: sys on July 06, 2018, 12:18:04 PM

Quote from: Kat Kid on July 06, 2018, 11:59:58 AM
I'm no dax supporter, but it is genuinely weird to see people rooting against a Korean peace deal/de-escalation so they can make the already obvious to everyone who cares point that Trump is an incompetent moron.

i'm not rooting against a korean peace deal. i'm rooting for other people to understand that there is no possibility of a peace deal to exist within the framework announced.

as i've already mentioned, i think there is a chance that trump can work his magic on 'pub minds and spin them into accepting then north korea is going to have nukes and there is nothing we can do about it. i won't give him any credit for that, because process matters and if he does achieve that, he will have done so using a fundamentally dishonest process that is damaging to our democracy - but it will still be a slightly positive outcome.

Well, North Korea is definitely going to have nukes and it is definitely in our interest to forge an agreement that both provides peace and security to the Korean peninsula that doesn't involve us having an enormous military presence on hair trigger there and de-escalating the rhetoric (that, yes, Trump himself recklessly escalated) and avoiding a war.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #518 on:** July 06, 2018, 12:38:55 PM »

I just fundamentally don't care what Trump supporters believe. They are completely divorced from reality. Why even bother worrying about their justifications for things? They don't care about your attempts to "fact check" them and they will reverse engineer any reason to support Trump. We already know this.

sys · « **Reply #519 on:** July 06, 2018, 12:44:34 PM »

i don't believe we can have a democracy where voters do not accept reality and i'm not willing to abandon trump voters as incapable of returning to some semi-coherent understanding of the world.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #520 on:** July 06, 2018, 12:45:40 PM »

Quote from: sys on July 06, 2018, 12:44:34 PM

i don't believe we can have a democracy where voters do not accept reality and i'm not willing to abandon trump voters as incapable of returning to some semi-coherent understanding of the world.

lol ok. good luck with all that.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #521 on:** July 06, 2018, 01:06:03 PM »

Nothing has changed politically between the two parties. Both sides believe and hear what they want to better for their agenda. Sys acting like this is new, is stunning, but here we are. Just the fact that we had a US President on NK soil making an effort for peace is huge. Stop trying to fact check your way to finding holes in this.

sys · « **Reply #522 on:** July 06, 2018, 01:07:14 PM »

Quote from: Kat Kid on July 06, 2018, 12:45:40 PM

lol ok. good luck with all that.

there's no alternative.

Kat Kid · « **Reply #523 on:** July 06, 2018, 01:09:02 PM »

Quote from: sys on July 06, 2018, 01:07:14 PM

Quote from: Kat Kid on July 06, 2018, 12:45:40 PM
lol ok. good luck with all that.

there's no alternative.

sure there is. start talking to and getting to vote people that currently don't vote. it is a much bigger slice of the population and they are actually persuadable.

catastrophe · « **Reply #524 on:** July 06, 2018, 01:14:46 PM »

agree with kk