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Human Survival
« on: July 07, 2010, 12:20:47 AM »
That thread about NASA's objective got me thinking... all politics aside, what is the real purpose of our space program? What are we really there for?

Well, as the history of the earth has show us time and time again, we (humans) won't last here forever, as no species has. Climate change, changes in atmospheric levels, ozone depletion, resource depletion, something will get us. And that's if we don't blow each other up first. And of course EVERY planet eventually dies out. It seems pretty simple. Bottom line; our time here is finite. That fact alone supports having a space program and space exploration; in fact, it necessitates it. Unless we are just giving up.

There is another life supporting planet out there. There's probably millions. If we had the ability to explore more than 1/1 billioneth of the universe we might find it. It appears humans are far and away the most intelligent species yet to dominate the earth. Unfortunately this means we can use that intelligence to do things like develop bombs that can destroy our whole planet. We put half of that effort into space and in 100 years we're charting depths unimaginable. It's unclear whether our intelligence will end up destroying or saving us, but at the moment it looks like smart money is on the former. We still have that choice, though. Maybe us humans will be long gone before we ever find anything, but don't we have to at least TRY?

Our species is still in its infancy. We've lasted a tiny fraction of the amount of time the dinosaurs were around. We're a blink of an eye, a microscopic dot on the timeline of earth's history. And we've already developed technology to destroy ourselves and are developing better ways to do it every day. Any chance we stick around a while? Ideas? Any religious people want to yell at me?


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Re: Human Survival
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2010, 12:25:39 AM »
That thread about NASA's objective got me thinking... all politics aside, what is the real purpose of our space program? What are we really there for?

Well, as the history of the earth has show us time and time again, we (humans) won't last here forever, as no species has. Climate change, changes in atmospheric levels, ozone depletion, resource depletion, something will get us. And that's if we don't blow each other up first. And of course EVERY planet eventually dies out. It seems pretty simple. Bottom line; our time here is finite. That fact alone supports having a space program and space exploration; in fact, it necessitates it. Unless we are just giving up.

There is another life supporting planet out there. There's probably millions. If we had the ability to explore more than 1/1 billioneth of the universe we might find it. It appears humans are far and away the most intelligent species yet to dominate the earth. Unfortunately this means we can use that intelligence to do things like develop bombs that can destroy our whole planet. We put half of that effort into space and in 100 years we're charting depths unimaginable. It's unclear whether our intelligence will end up destroying or saving us, but at the moment it looks like smart money is on the former. We still have that choice, though. Maybe us humans will be long gone before we ever find anything, but don't we have to at least TRY?

Our species is still in its infancy. We've lasted a tiny fraction of the amount of time the dinosaurs were around. We're a blink of an eye, a microscopic dot on the timeline of earth's history. And we've already developed technology to destroy ourselves and are developing better ways to do it every day. Any chance we stick around a while? Ideas? Any religious people want to yell at me?

humans will be gone w/in 500 years. prob next 250.

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Re: Human Survival
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2010, 12:26:07 AM »
don't care.  will be dead.

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Re: Human Survival
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2010, 12:34:07 AM »
don't care.  will be dead.

Probably my number one reason for wanting a heaven. Just to see how this whole rough ridin' mess plays out.

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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2010, 12:56:11 AM »
humans will be gone w/in 500 years. prob next 250.

More like 50 ... at the outside.  Consider: there are over 6 billion people on Earth of whom at least 1.5 billion belong to a bat-crap crazy genocidal religion; say 10% of the latter care enough to try to kill all the infidels that's like 150,000,000 bat-crap crazy genocide puppies hell-bent on killing everyone else; for like a couple hundred bucks each of said 150,000,000 crazies can set up a gene-splicing shop in their garage and hope to find a better, more contagious, more effective smallpox (etc.).   Yeah, this is all going to turn out *really* well. 

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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2010, 02:37:12 AM »
humans will be gone w/in 500 years. prob next 250.

More like 50 ... at the outside.  Consider: there are over 6 billion people on Earth of whom at least 1.5 billion belong to a bat-crap crazy genocidal religion; say 10% of the latter care enough to try to kill all the infidels that's like 150,000,000 bat-crap crazy genocide puppies hell-bent on killing everyone else; for like a couple hundred bucks each of said 150,000,000 crazies can set up a gene-splicing shop in their garage and hope to find a better, more contagious, more effective smallpox (etc.).   Yeah, this is all going to turn out *really* well. 

 :bwpopcorn: :users: :flush:

I get what you're saying, but I'm wondering if you realize how truly mind-boggling a feat that would be. If you imagine earth's history as a 4-hour symphony, our species would represent less than a single note. In that fraction of a second we would have managed to spread to every corner of the globe, depleting resources as we go while giving nothing back, killing each other the whole time, and finally destroying ourselves. In the blink of an eye. Amazing.

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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2010, 07:17:57 AM »
I get what you're saying, but I'm wondering if you realize how truly mind-boggling a feat that would be. If you imagine earth's history as a 4-hour symphony, our species would represent less than a single note. In that fraction of a second we would have managed to spread to every corner of the globe, depleting resources as we go while giving nothing back, killing each other the whole time, and finally destroying ourselves. In the blink of an eye. Amazing.

No more amazing than the continued stupidity demonstrated ad nauseum by all the world's sheeple.   :users:

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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2010, 04:13:38 PM »
humans will be gone w/in 500 years. prob next 250.

More like 50 ... at the outside.  Consider: there are over 6 billion people on Earth of whom at least 1.5 billion belong to a bat-crap crazy genocidal religion; say 10% of the latter care enough to try to kill all the infidels that's like 150,000,000 bat-crap crazy genocide puppies hell-bent on killing everyone else; for like a couple hundred bucks each of said 150,000,000 crazies can set up a gene-splicing shop in their garage and hope to find a better, more contagious, more effective smallpox (etc.).   Yeah, this is all going to turn out *really* well. 

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I get what you're saying, but I'm wondering if you realize how truly mind-boggling a feat that would be. If you imagine earth's history as a 4-hour symphony, our species would represent less than a single note. In that fraction of a second we would have managed to spread to every corner of the globe, depleting resources as we go while giving nothing back, killing each other the whole time, and finally destroying ourselves. In the blink of an eye. Amazing.


I found a simulation/game where you create a virus and try to get said virus to kill off the world's population. I did it in 175 days. Granted, it's a game, but if you think about global travel and trade, it's not that unrealistic that something powerful enough could be spread quickly enough.

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Re: Human Survival
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2010, 04:25:08 PM »
Humans will be around at least another 500k years or so I bet, probably longer.

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Re: Human Survival
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2010, 04:45:25 PM »
really hard to wipe out a species with a virus.  really, really hard.
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Re: Human Survival
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2010, 04:47:14 PM »
Lot of retards in this thread ruling out our annihilation by aliens.

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Re: Human Survival
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2010, 04:58:23 PM »
really hard to wipe out a species with a virus.  really, really hard.
but he had a simulation!

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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2010, 05:07:08 PM »
NASA reaching out to Muslims is alot like reaching out to alien life:  We know a little bit about them from TV and movies, we would like to know more, but are afraid that when we do make contact with them they might destroy us.

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Re: Human Survival
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2010, 06:14:04 PM »
Whole lotta potheads in this thread.

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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2010, 07:11:49 PM »
NASA reaching out to Muslims is alot like reaching out to alien life:  We know a little bit about them from TV and movies, we would like to know more, but are afraid that when we do make contact with them they might destroy us.

Well we all better get to know them better, because Christian and Muslim conflict is going to be the first real challenge in avoiding global catastrophe. Whether you are religious or even care about it is irrelevant; in the end we are all threatened by the falling dominos.

It's too late to get out now. The moment we set-up a puppet government in the middle east, in the form of israel, we were committed. Both to a sustained occupation of islamic countries, protection of israel, and the resulting inevitability; increasing violence and unrest finally escalating into an all-out war.

All the pieces are already set up. islamic fundamentalist leaders have been clear; the muslims goal has and will always be the same; restore the lands of palestine and eliminate the infidels that have taken them. the book of qur'an is clear in this. isreal is surrounded by enemies on all sides waiting to rush. 5 1/2 million jews surrounded by 350 million arab muslims. it's only a matter of time before their holy jihad is launched, we are forced to retaliate back, and there goes the whole ball game. Iran already has a developed nuclear program and produces more every day. This may all start happening a lot sooner than you think.


http://www.israel-vs-palestine.com/PS/EN
(Read some of the comments, scary as hell)

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2006/09/10/the_war_for_islam/

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/07/islams_global_war_against_chri.html




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« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2010, 08:09:43 AM »
NASA reaching out to Muslims is alot like reaching out to alien life:  We know a little bit about them from TV and movies, we would like to know more, but are afraid that when we do make contact with them they might destroy us.

Well we all better get to know them better, because Christian and Muslim conflict is going to be the first real challenge in avoiding global catastrophe. Whether you are religious or even care about it is irrelevant; in the end we are all threatened by the falling dominos.

It's too late to get out now. The moment we set-up a puppet government in the middle east, in the form of israel, we were committed. Both to a sustained occupation of islamic countries, protection of israel, and the resulting inevitability; increasing violence and unrest finally escalating into an all-out war.

All the pieces are already set up. islamic fundamentalist leaders have been clear; the muslims goal has and will always be the same; restore the lands of palestine and eliminate the infidels that have taken them. the book of qur'an is clear in this. isreal is surrounded by enemies on all sides waiting to rush. 5 1/2 million jews surrounded by 350 million arab muslims. it's only a matter of time before their holy jihad is launched, we are forced to retaliate back, and there goes the whole ball game. Iran already has a developed nuclear program and produces more every day. This may all start happening a lot sooner than you think.


http://www.israel-vs-palestine.com/PS/EN
(Read some of the comments, scary as hell)

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2006/09/10/the_war_for_islam/

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/07/islams_global_war_against_chri.html





Yes, but do you really think that NASA should be the ones doing this? Have you ever listened to an engineer or physicist give a speech? Some are good, most are not. Imagine putting a language barrier on top of that. NASA should stick to science and space travel. I would rather have seen them put to use on stopping the oil leak than this.

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« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2010, 09:22:36 AM »
NASA reaching out to Muslims is alot like reaching out to alien life:  We know a little bit about them from TV and movies, we would like to know more, but are afraid that when we do make contact with them they might destroy us.

Well we all better get to know them better, because Christian and Muslim conflict is going to be the first real challenge in avoiding global catastrophe. Whether you are religious or even care about it is irrelevant; in the end we are all threatened by the falling dominos.

It's too late to get out now. The moment we set-up a puppet government in the middle east, in the form of israel, we were committed. Both to a sustained occupation of islamic countries, protection of israel, and the resulting inevitability; increasing violence and unrest finally escalating into an all-out war.

All the pieces are already set up. islamic fundamentalist leaders have been clear; the muslims goal has and will always be the same; restore the lands of palestine and eliminate the infidels that have taken them. the book of qur'an is clear in this. isreal is surrounded by enemies on all sides waiting to rush. 5 1/2 million jews surrounded by 350 million arab muslims. it's only a matter of time before their holy jihad is launched, we are forced to retaliate back, and there goes the whole ball game. Iran already has a developed nuclear program and produces more every day. This may all start happening a lot sooner than you think.


http://www.israel-vs-palestine.com/PS/EN
(Read some of the comments, scary as hell)

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2006/09/10/the_war_for_islam/

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/07/islams_global_war_against_chri.html





Yes, but do you really think that NASA should be the ones doing this? Have you ever listened to an engineer or physicist give a speech? Some are good, most are not. Imagine putting a language barrier on top of that. NASA should stick to science and space travel. I would rather have seen them put to use on stopping the oil leak than this.

I think Obama's actions as president should be enough to make any Muslim proud.

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Re: Human Survival
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2010, 11:04:49 AM »
lots of nuts in this thread.

Asteroid, people.  Asteroid.

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« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2010, 11:15:08 AM »
lots of nuts in this thread.

Asteroid, people.  Asteroid.

This is seriously the only "threat" mentioned in this thread I would worry about.
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« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2010, 11:18:16 AM »
better hope oscar willis is still wanting to save the world so that ben affleck and liv tyler can get married.     :pray:

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« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2010, 11:55:08 AM »
really hard to wipe out a species with a virus.  really, really hard.

Reduce the population of said species to zero?  True.  Reduce the population of said species to the point that it cannot sustain a post-industrial revolution society?  Probably not so true.  Left as an exercise for the reader: identify the groups whose actions indicate that this is their desired outcome and note which groups typically support which others.   Very enlightening.

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« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2010, 12:00:04 PM »
Azcat is a blast at parties.

random dude:  "Hey, dude, wanna take some shots?"

azcat:  "Why bother?  Muslims are evil and are going to eventually destroy the world."

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« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2010, 12:15:14 PM »
really hard to wipe out a species with a virus.  really, really hard.
but he had a simulation!

awww, someone's feelings are hurt cause they made a terrible basketball jersey... Poor hayzeus  :frown:

I said it was just a game :facepalm:

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Re: Human Survival
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2010, 12:44:45 PM »
:lol:

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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2010, 11:52:52 PM »
Azcat is a blast at parties.

random dude:  "Hey, dude, wanna take some shots?"

azcat:  "Why bother?  Muslims are evil and are going to eventually destroy the world."

:crickets:

Meh, nothing against the Hajis personally it's just that there are so many of them one is bound to get it right before a member of another death cult does.  E.g., those 'tards in Japan would've killed us all if they could've but there were only a couple of dozen of 'em and the best idea they could come up with was blowing anthrax out a skyscraper window for months on end, didn't manage to infect a single person.  But ratchet that "couple dozen" members up to "a billion and a half" and there's a significantly better chance of a non-Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) causing real damage. 

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