Vegas shooting

[The Big Train]

What's your... theory... here dax?

8 pages to go for that. I already tried

Actually I already said it pages ago.

FINALLY Dax made an appearance. I’m excited for this and how it’s Obama and Hillary’s fault.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

I know you guys are having fun with Dax... but doesn't it seem a little odd that it took 20 minutes from shooting that security guard to cops arriving at the 32nd floor? I mean, security have radios and there are cameras in every hallway. I'm sure there's an explanation for it, but we haven't heard it yet. And that was a pretty important 20 minutes.

[Dugout DickStone]

I know you guys are having fun with Dax... but doesn't it seem a little odd that it took 20 minutes from shooting that security guard to cops arriving at the 32nd floor? I mean, security have radios and there are cameras in every hallway. I'm sure there's an explanation for it, but we haven't heard it yet. And that was a pretty important 20 minutes.

Slow, panicked, don't want to die?  Ultimately though he didn't shoot for the last 10 minutes of that so maybe they tried to seal off building, work their way up to make sure this nut job doesn't escape?

[puniraptor]

pretty wild

I think its clear that in the chaos people just didn't connect the dots between a shooting in a hotel and the assault on the concert

they were probably like "forget that hotel garbage and get to the concert on the double!"

[michigancat]

Is it actually that surprising that a billion dollar casino would not want to involve law enforcement instantly? I mean I'd think they would want as much as they can internally. Granted this is an insane case but still, watch oceans 11.

[star seed 7]

i think dax maybe expected the 10 dollar an hour security guys to swat this crap up and get the perp

[Gooch]

Nope, the cops were too preoccupied by all the black helicopters circling.

[puniraptor]

Is it actually that surprising that a billion dollar casino would not want to involve law enforcement instantly? I mean I'd think they would want as much as they can internally. Granted this is an insane case but still, watch oceans 11.

maybe they thought it was one of their resident mobsters just carrying-on and they were going to sweep it under the rug

[Dugout DickStone]

I don't think it would be surprising if the security guard called it in and they took some time to formulate a plan. 

[michigancat]

Is it actually that surprising that a billion dollar casino would not want to involve law enforcement instantly? I mean I'd think they would want as much as they can internally. Granted this is an insane case but still, watch oceans 11.

maybe they thought it was one of their resident mobsters just carrying-on and they were going to sweep it under the rug

In all seriousness I bet the big casinos don't involve police every time there's a gun shot in a room. Handle that crap internally, it's the Bill Self model.

[Dugout DickStone]

Is it actually that surprising that a billion dollar casino would not want to involve law enforcement instantly? I mean I'd think they would want as much as they can internally. Granted this is an insane case but still, watch oceans 11.

maybe they thought it was one of their resident mobsters just carrying-on and they were going to sweep it under the rug

In all seriousness I bet the big casinos don't involve police every time there's a gun shot in a room. Handle that crap internally, it's the Bill Self model.

Or they take more than 6 minutes to consider the guest, circumstances etc.

[michigancat]

Is it actually that surprising that a billion dollar casino would not want to involve law enforcement instantly? I mean I'd think they would want as much as they can internally. Granted this is an insane case but still, watch oceans 11.

maybe they thought it was one of their resident mobsters just carrying-on and they were going to sweep it under the rug

In all seriousness I bet the big casinos don't involve police every time there's a gun shot in a room. Handle that crap internally, it's the Bill Self model.

Or they take more than 6 minutes to consider the guest, circumstances etc.

Also reasonable!

[star seed 7]

cia radio jammers?

[michigancat]

Is it actually that surprising that a billion dollar casino would not want to involve law enforcement instantly? I mean I'd think they would want as much as they can internally. Granted this is an insane case but still, watch oceans 11.

maybe they thought it was one of their resident mobsters just carrying-on and they were going to sweep it under the rug

In all seriousness I bet the big casinos don't involve police every time there's a gun shot in a room. Handle that crap internally, it's the Bill Self model.

Or they take more than 6 minutes to consider the guest, circumstances etc.

Also reasonable!

Not reasonable theory: Mandalay Bay and LVPD let this guy shoot 400 people because conspiracy

[Phil Titola]

I don't think it would be surprising if the security guard called it in and they took some time to formulate a plan.

exactly.

Sad to see Dax attack our law enforcement professionals.  Daddy trump would not be happy with his disrespecting the flag/nation/pd like that.

[The Big Train]

Is it actually that surprising that a billion dollar casino would not want to involve law enforcement instantly? I mean I'd think they would want as much as they can internally. Granted this is an insane case but still, watch oceans 11.

maybe they thought it was one of their resident mobsters just carrying-on and they were going to sweep it under the rug

In all seriousness I bet the big casinos don't involve police every time there's a gun shot in a room. Handle that crap internally, it's the Bill Self model.

Or they take more than 6 minutes to consider the guest, circumstances etc.

Also reasonable!

Not reasonable theory: Mandalay Bay and LVPD let this guy shoot 400 people because conspiracy

Are Trumpers reasonable logical people?

[CHONGS]

He's just asking questions guys.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Again though, security guard gets shot and the first guy to bump into him is a maintenance dude? How did the casino not at least have security up to that floor to rescue the guy within a few minutes? How long did it take the casino to call the police? I'm not saying this is a conspiracy, but it appears one or more people at MB seriously mumped up.

[puniraptor]

i think i recognize that security guard as a sandy hook dad crisis actor

[Dugout DickStone]

i think i recognize that security guard as a sandy hook dad crisis actor

Knew it

[sonofdaxjones]

The timeline and narrative now says “200 rounds” fired at the security guard, 5-6 minutes before Paddock opens up on the crowd. 

A 5-6 minute warning something was seriously wrong on the 32nd floor of the MB.  Yet no one from LVPD or armed MB security (they have them per LA Times) gets there for nearly 20 minutes and they reportedly only figure out where the shooter was located after running into the MB security guy who has reportedly been on the 32nd floor either on a house phone or radio nearly the entire time?

The hotel has high speed express elevators. 

Time stamps from security cameras are off.  (LA Times).

MB is going to get their asses sued off.

[sonofdaxjones]

MGM/MB through a NYC PR firm now disputing revised LVPD timeline.   But with no details.

[sonofdaxjones]

Second hotel employee told NBC news he was on 32nd floor and both he and wounded security guy radioed in that there was a shooter on 32nd floor 5-6 minutes before Paddock opened up on concert. 

“Joseph Giacalone, a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice and a retired New York City police sergeant, said the new timeline “changes everything.”

“There absolutely was an opportunity in that timeframe that some of this could’ve been mitigated,” he said.”  (AP News)

[Kat Kid]

Why again is it surprising the cops did not bust down a door and prevent this? I honestly don't understand why 20 minutes or so is surprising for the cops to respond.


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[Phil Titola]

Dax hates police