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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #50 on: January 19, 2017, 01:24:59 PM »
I will remember Obama as a centrist president, in a intensly partisan age, who made mistakes but carried himself with dignity.


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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #51 on: January 19, 2017, 01:27:55 PM »
I'm afraid of expired food
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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #52 on: January 19, 2017, 01:37:43 PM »
My sense is that you are all missing the point.

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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #53 on: January 19, 2017, 01:40:03 PM »
Im afraid i might be

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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #54 on: January 19, 2017, 01:41:31 PM »
My sense is that you are all missing the point.

i am not afraid of missing the point

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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #55 on: January 19, 2017, 01:55:33 PM »
Im afraid i might be

that sounds like a personal problem.

i am not afraid of missing the point

you are entitled to that perspective. there is always the chance that it isn't the correct lens, though.

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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #56 on: January 19, 2017, 02:10:48 PM »
I'll remember Obama as the other guy who sometimes appeared in the Joe Biden memes.

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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #57 on: January 19, 2017, 04:16:40 PM »
The only thing we should be afraid of is being afraid of things that we shouldn't be afraid of.

FDR's first draft.

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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #58 on: January 19, 2017, 04:30:20 PM »
I'm afraid of being so afraid of irrational fear that I won't be afraid when it actually is appropriate.

maybe just don't be afraid?

I dunno, pretty steep downside to not being afraid when appropriate.

If you're experiencing fear, you're doing something wrong. I'm not arguing that one should live in a bubble, either.

I'm just messing with you, BTW.

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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #59 on: January 19, 2017, 06:16:01 PM »
I'm afraid of being so afraid of irrational fear that I won't be afraid when it actually is appropriate.

maybe just don't be afraid?

I dunno, pretty steep downside to not being afraid when appropriate.

If you're experiencing fear, you're doing something wrong. I'm not arguing that one should live in a bubble, either.

I'm just messing with you, BTW.

I'm well aware. I was bored at work today too.

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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #60 on: January 19, 2017, 08:47:15 PM »
Calmer than I am dude?

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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #61 on: January 19, 2017, 08:51:14 PM »
fermentedheadcat is totally chill man
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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #62 on: January 19, 2017, 09:31:08 PM »
Calmer than I am dude?

Probably, but I don't know that for certain.

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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #63 on: January 20, 2017, 03:32:46 PM »


not my president :billdance:

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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #64 on: January 20, 2017, 09:59:01 PM »


not my president :billdance:

Well he was for 8 years.

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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #65 on: January 21, 2017, 09:31:46 AM »
His legacy will be Republican domination for years to come. Bringing the lunacy of progressive fascism into the spotlight so the American people could summarily crush it.

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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #66 on: January 21, 2017, 04:54:59 PM »
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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #67 on: January 22, 2017, 08:14:11 AM »
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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #68 on: January 22, 2017, 09:35:56 AM »
I think Obama's proudest legacy will definitely be being the first black president. He was a symbol, and that, combined with his soaring but typically empty rhetoric, caused most liberals to swoon. But substantively, it was pretty much downhill since his election.

I'll start working on a report card:

1. Economy. Market did great under Obama, which means people's retirement accounts did great. That's a plus. Negatives were pretty much everything else. We now have about 5mil more jobs than 2008, or 15mil jobs than when things hit bottom in 2010. Either way, population grew by 20mil so we've actually gone backwards. Not surprisingly, labor force participation has fallen significantly, and GDP growth has been pathetic. The bottom line is that Obama thought business was the bad guy and they reciprocated. Grade: D.

2. Debt: He added more to the debt than nearly every one of his predecessors combined. Appalling. Grade: Expulsion.

3. Healthcare: His signature legislative achievement, Obamacare, has been a train wreck. It helped a few million people at the expense of everyone else. Essentially, he added a bunch more people to the already strapped Medicaid entitlement. It'll be repealed and replaced in some form. Grade: D-.

4. Foreign Policy: Obama's "Lead From Behind" doctrine while simultaneously destabilizing regimes like Libya has been an utter shambles. Killed a lot of terrorists with drone strikes tho. Grade: D+.

5. Energy: If there was one word to describe Obama's foolhardy quest to pump green energy it would be "Solyndra." We became a net exporter of energy in spite of Obama with the shale boom. Grade: F.

6. Immigration: This one's in the eye of the beholder. Liberals would approve his contra-constitutional Dreamer policy. As a conservative, I don't like lawlessness or promoting illegal immigration. Grade: F.

7. Race Relations: I don't think this needs much elaboration. Obama could have used his identity to be a unifier and healer. Instead, his rhetoric was divisive. Grade: F.

8. Social Issues. Another one in the eye of the beholder. For liberals, his actions on gay and transgender rights is a rare upside to Obama's legacy. For conservatives, its ranged from embarrassing to annoying. We've gone from Tear Down This Wall to Tear Down This Stall. Grade: D.

9. The Rule of Law. From immigration to Obamacare to many executive orders, Obama took the approach of "eff it - I'll do what I want for as long as I want and mostly get what I want even if a court goes against me in a few years." Good in short term for liberal policies. Bad in long term for fabric of our society. A bright spot for liberals is his appointment of two liberal justices who similarly believe that the law will be whatever they say it is to advance their ideology. From a conservative standpoint... Grade: F.

10. American Exceptionslism: He never believed in it and his travels abroad was a nonstop apology tour. Something liberals love, I guess. But in my view... Grade: F.
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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #69 on: January 22, 2017, 09:44:18 AM »
Man you are a butt hurt person

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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #70 on: January 22, 2017, 09:45:57 AM »
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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #71 on: January 22, 2017, 09:48:52 AM »
That report card is pretty spot on. It's extremely difficult to see any tangible accomplishment. I'm sure social justice will some how be re-written as transformative.
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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #72 on: January 22, 2017, 09:50:51 AM »
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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #73 on: January 22, 2017, 10:26:52 AM »
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Re: Legacy of Obama
« Reply #74 on: January 22, 2017, 12:59:31 PM »
Man you are a butt hurt person

Maybe a little bit. Still pretty disappointed Obama won a second term given how unpopular nearly all of his substantive positions were - that's a sad indictment of what a cult of personality we've become.

But I think it's useful to look back at Obama and what he did well and poorly because I'll be judging Trump on the same things. I'm optimistic that he'll be quite successful in some areas - less in others.
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