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Question for jeffy
« on: April 30, 2010, 02:53:18 PM »
Did you support the George W. Bush administration?
 



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Re: Question for jeffy (aka right wing lunatic)
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2010, 03:01:02 PM »
For the most part, until he gathered too many liberal over-spending tendencies in his last term.

Thanks for asking, Mr. Douchebag.


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Re: Question for jeffy (aka right wing lunatic)
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2010, 03:04:51 PM »

Saw this on Yahoo! News this morning.  It's topical:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/3491615

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Re: Question for jeffy (aka right wing lunatic)
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2010, 03:35:02 PM »
For the most part, until he gathered too many liberal over-spending tendencies in his last term.

Thanks for asking, Mr. Douchebag.






Do you realize that the George W. Bush administration was responsible for the largest budget deficit in US history, and also got us into a war that will cost trillions of dollars in long-term debt?
 



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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2010, 04:04:11 PM »
For the most part, until he gathered too many liberal over-spending tendencies in his last term.

Thanks for asking, Mr. Douchebag.






Do you realize that the George W. Bush administration was responsible for the largest budget deficit in US history, and also got us into a war that will cost trillions of dollars in long-term debt?
 



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Re: Question for jeffy (aka right wing lunatic)
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2010, 04:11:02 PM »
Incorrect.  George W. Bush bankrupted the US treasury by the middle of his first term.  Also keep in mind that when Clinton left office, the US was enjoying its largest budget surplus in US history.  Care to try again?

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Re: Question for jeffy (aka right wing lunatic)
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2010, 04:39:44 PM »
Incorrect.  George W. Bush bankrupted the US treasury by the middle of his first term.  Also keep in mind that when Clinton left office, the US was enjoying its largest budget surplus in US history.  Care to try again?

Republicans controlled the House and Senate during pretty much all of Clinton's 2 terms.

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Re: Question for jeffy (aka right wing lunatic)
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2010, 04:50:14 PM »
Republicans ran things from 2000-2008, and you guys drove the economy into its worst recession since the Great Depression.  Congrats. 

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Re: Question for jeffy (aka right wing lunatic)
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2010, 04:54:50 PM »
Republicans ran things from 2000-2008, and you guys drove the economy into its worst recession since the Great Depression.  Congrats. 

Pretty sure Dems took control of both houses in the 2006 mid terms.

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Re: Question for jeffy (aka right wing lunatic)
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2010, 05:00:50 PM »
Republicans ran things from 2000-2008, and you guys drove the economy into its worst recession since the Great Depression.  Congrats. 

Pretty sure Dems took control of both houses in the 2006 mid terms.




Yeah, after the Republicans f*cked everything up. 

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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2010, 05:09:10 PM »
Republicans ran things from 2000-2008, and you guys drove the economy into its worst recession since the Great Depression.  Congrats. 

Pretty sure Dems took control of both houses in the 2006 mid terms.




Yeah, after the Republicans f*cked everything up. 

Dude, both parties are out of control. 
The recession wasn't a partisan effort.  Obama's own budget has him adding more to the deficit in 4 years, than Bush did in 8.

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Re: Question for jeffy (aka right wing lunatic)
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2010, 05:44:10 PM »
For the most part, until he gathered too many liberal over-spending tendencies in his last term.

Thanks for asking, Mr. Douchebag.






Do you realize that the George W. Bush administration was responsible for the largest budget deficit in US history, and also got us into a war that will cost trillions of dollars in long-term debt?
 



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And that excuses compounding it five-fold?  Or is it six by now?

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Re: Question for jeffy (aka right wing lunatic)
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2010, 05:46:14 PM »
Republicans ran things from 2000-2008, and you guys drove the economy into its worst recession since the Great Depression.  Congrats. 

Pretty sure Dems took control of both houses in the 2006 mid terms.




Yeah, after the Republicans f*cked everything up. 

Somebody post that youtube of the regulators in 2007 warning congress about the looming mortgage crisis and the Dems saying everything is fine with fannie and freddy.

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Re: Question for jeffy (aka right wing lunatic)
« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2010, 06:11:07 PM »
For the most part, until he gathered too many liberal over-spending tendencies in his last term.

Thanks for asking, Mr. Douchebag.






Do you realize that the George W. Bush administration was responsible for the largest budget deficit in US history, and also got us into a war that will cost trillions of dollars in long-term debt?
 



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And that excuses compounding it five-fold?  Or is it six by now?




It's called an economic stimulus package.  The idea is to increase the consumption of domestic goods.  Usually this takes place after a recession. 

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Re: Question for jeffy (aka right wing lunatic)
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2010, 06:13:06 PM »
Republicans ran things from 2000-2008, and you guys drove the economy into its worst recession since the Great Depression.  Congrats. 

Pretty sure Dems took control of both houses in the 2006 mid terms.




Yeah, after the Republicans f*cked everything up. 

Somebody post that youtube of the regulators in 2007 warning congress about the looming mortgage crisis and the Dems saying everything is fine with fannie and freddy.




Yeah, the Bush administration really made a huge effort to increase bank regulation.
 



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Re: Question for jeffy (aka right wing lunatic)
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2010, 06:43:00 PM »
Republicans ran things from 2000-2008, and you guys drove the economy into its worst recession since the Great Depression.  Congrats. 

Pretty sure Dems took control of both houses in the 2006 mid terms.




Yeah, after the Republicans f*cked everything up. 

Somebody post that youtube of the regulators in 2007 warning congress about the looming mortgage crisis and the Dems saying everything is fine with fannie and freddy.




Yeah, the Bush administration really made a huge effort to increase bank regulation.
 



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Presidents don't write the laws.

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Re: Question for jeffy (aka right wing lunatic)
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2010, 07:32:49 PM »
I did until I found out 9/11 was an inside job

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Re: Question for jeffy (aka right wing lunatic)
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2010, 10:24:39 PM »
Ben will get all crazy on his debt vs deficit analysis, but I'll throw this in for a little perspective.  The key thing to remember is that the president does NOT have authority to spend money.  That job belongs to congress.  So, while debt and deficit are not the same thing, they are related. 



One other important number to look at is debt to gdp ratio.  When Bush entered office, his debt/gdp percentage was 63.  When he left, it was 83, thanks mostly to the wars, although TARP was a huge factor as well.  This was a total of 8 years, 6 of them being war years.

The percentage currently stands at 95%, an increase of 12% in just over a year.  During WWII, the number climbed to 117%.  These are unsustainable numbers.  Notice that the debt was repaid very quickly after the WWII.  Of course, the gold standard was still in place at the time, so purely photocopying money wasn't a real option. 



So unless something is done about this:


Ben's talking point will be invalidated by the middle of next year.

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Re: Question for jeffy (aka right wing lunatic)
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2010, 10:39:44 PM »
Republicans ran things from 2000-2008, and you guys drove the economy into its worst recession since the Great Depression.  Congrats.  

Pretty sure Dems took control of both houses in the 2006 mid terms.






Yeah, after the Republicans f*cked everything up.  

Somebody post that youtube of the regulators in 2007 warning congress about the looming mortgage crisis and the Dems saying everything is fine with fannie and freddy.

This one?

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Re: Question for jeffy (aka right wing lunatic)
« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2010, 01:32:01 AM »
This entire thread is a pretty good microcosm of this board

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Re: Question for jeffy (aka right wing lunatic)
« Reply #20 on: May 01, 2010, 07:38:46 AM »
I did until I found out 9/11 was an inside job

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Re: Question for jeffy (aka right wing lunatic)
« Reply #21 on: May 01, 2010, 08:32:11 AM »
Strange, how can you have a "budget surplus" yet increase the national debt at the same time.   Go back and look at the numbers, the national debt increased every year Clinton was in office, granted there were several very small increases, but they were increases none the less.   So I am still amazed at the myth of Clinton running budget surpluses, when every year of his presidency the federal government had to borrow money.    In addition, when Clinton left office the U.S. was in recession and the .com bubble had blown up.  The "Budget surplus" was due more with fun with intra governmental holdings and transfers and lots of playing around with the Social Security "lock box". 

I've also found it fascinating how libratards never want to look at reality.  Dems have controlled congress for four years now.  During that dime Federal Budget deficits have exploded.  War Spending just keeps right on going and  under this administration the wars have been expanded.   The U.S. is engaged in war either with regular forces or JSOC/Special forces in at least 5 countries (likely more).   The use of "guns for hire" contractors that liberals wailed and screamed about under Bush . . . has increased dramatically under the Obama administration.   Currently the U.S. is engaged in an illegal drone assassination campaign inside Pakistan, that one legal expert said could technically get the administration tagged with war crimes.   The official explanation from the Barry Administration as to why they have the "legal" right to carry out this campaign . . . "Al Qaeda attacked the United States on 9-11" . . . holy $hit where have I heard that before??  Now Barry and Hillary are running all over the place saying we can't let the terra-ists get nuclear weapons . . . Holy $hit where have I heard all of that before?? (this is becoming a recurring theme).    Strange though, the U.S. is still prosecuting wars all over the world, expanding military bases in South America, NATO continues to encircle Russia, the administration loves the new U.S. tool of hegemony that being the concept of Prompt Global Strike capabilities (look it up) . . . yet the anti war protesters are gone from the street corner they gathered every Sunday when Bush is in office. 


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« Reply #22 on: May 01, 2010, 08:38:28 AM »
I just want to congratulate the Peace Monger Barry Obama administration for proposing the largest defense/war spending budget in world history in their FY 2011 budget.

The U.S. will likely spend more on defense and wars in FY 2011 than the rest of the world combined . . . peace and love, courtesy of Barry Obama.

But where's the anti war movement . . . crickets.

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Re: Question for jeffy (aka right wing lunatic)
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2010, 04:01:51 PM »
Ben starts with a  :bait: but ends up getting  :flush:

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Re: Question for jeffy (aka right wing lunatic)
« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2010, 05:34:59 PM »
Strange, how can you have a "budget surplus" yet increase the national debt at the same time.   Go back and look at the numbers, the national debt increased every year Clinton was in office, granted there were several very small increases, but they were increases none the less.   So I am still amazed at the myth of Clinton running budget surpluses, when every year of his presidency the federal government had to borrow money.    In addition, when Clinton left office the U.S. was in recession and the .com bubble had blown up.  The "Budget surplus" was due more with fun with intra governmental holdings and transfers and lots of playing around with the Social Security "lock box". 

I've also found it fascinating how libratards never want to look at reality.  Dems have controlled congress for four years now.  During that dime Federal Budget deficits have exploded.  War Spending just keeps right on going and  under this administration the wars have been expanded.   The U.S. is engaged in war either with regular forces or JSOC/Special forces in at least 5 countries (likely more).   The use of "guns for hire" contractors that liberals wailed and screamed about under Bush . . . has increased dramatically under the Obama administration.   Currently the U.S. is engaged in an illegal drone assassination campaign inside Pakistan, that one legal expert said could technically get the administration tagged with war crimes.   The official explanation from the Barry Administration as to why they have the "legal" right to carry out this campaign . . . "Al Qaeda attacked the United States on 9-11" . . . holy $hit where have I heard that before??  Now Barry and Hillary are running all over the place saying we can't let the terra-ists get nuclear weapons . . . Holy $hit where have I heard all of that before?? (this is becoming a recurring theme).    Strange though, the U.S. is still prosecuting wars all over the world, expanding military bases in South America, NATO continues to encircle Russia, the administration loves the new U.S. tool of hegemony that being the concept of Prompt Global Strike capabilities (look it up) . . . yet the anti war protesters are gone from the street corner they gathered every Sunday when Bush is in office. 






Hey, look... another right wing lunatic that doesn't grasp the difference between the budget and the national debt.  Clinton also created over 20 million jobs.  The guy kept taxes at a reasonable level and emphasized a prospering middle class.  It's really not that difficult to understand.