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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1275 on: September 22, 2018, 03:29:49 PM »

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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1277 on: October 03, 2018, 12:18:51 PM »
Beginning in August 2017, the trio wrote 20 hoax papers, submitting them to peer-reviewed journals under a variety of pseudonyms, as well as the name of their friend Richard Baldwin, a professor emeritus at Florida’s Gulf Coast State College. Mr. Baldwin confirms he gave them permission use his name. Journals accepted seven hoax papers. Four have been published.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/fake-news-comes-to-academia-1538520950

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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1278 on: October 04, 2018, 07:14:09 AM »



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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1280 on: October 09, 2018, 10:10:22 AM »



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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1281 on: October 09, 2018, 04:45:34 PM »



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Is that the facebook guy???
Yeah, really let himself go. Should lay off the pizza...
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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1283 on: October 11, 2018, 10:27:15 PM »
https://www.metrotimes.com/news-hits/archives/2018/10/11/video-released-showing-white-rochester-hills-man-shooting-at-black-teen

Pace told the court that after he told Zeigler he clearly aimed at the teen, Zeigler then responded, "I’m tired of being a victim." 

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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1285 on: November 01, 2018, 11:59:18 AM »
CASE OF E.S. v. AUSTRIA

the opinion from the mohammad defamation case. it's short and worth the read to see a different way of doing speech.


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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1286 on: November 01, 2018, 12:02:36 PM »
Dax beat you to this a couple of weeks ago.


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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1288 on: November 01, 2018, 12:26:33 PM »
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“Whoever, in circumstances where his or her behaviour is likely to arouse justified indignation, publicly disparages or insults a person who, or an object which, is an object of veneration of a church or religious community established within the country, or a dogma, a lawful custom or a lawful institution of such a church or religious community, shall be liable to up to six months’ imprisonment or a day-fine for a period of up to 360 days.”

Turns out you can expand the definition of "justified indignation" if you slaughter enough cartoonists.  It's wild that the Austrian lady lost her case for voicing concern about the integration of Islam into democracy and for naming a pedophile, and then a week later you see grown men in the streets protesting the non-execution of a mother of 5.

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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1289 on: November 01, 2018, 12:32:13 PM »
CASE OF E.S. v. AUSTRIA

the opinion from the mohammad defamation case. it's short and worth the read to see a different way of doing speech.
When you said short, did you mean like 100 pages short?
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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1290 on: November 01, 2018, 12:54:12 PM »
CASE OF E.S. v. AUSTRIA

the opinion from the mohammad defamation case. it's short and worth the read to see a different way of doing speech.
When you said short, did you mean like 100 pages short?
you can skip paragraphs 14-39 if you haven't already read it all

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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1291 on: November 01, 2018, 01:12:56 PM »
CASE OF E.S. v. AUSTRIA

the opinion from the mohammad defamation case. it's short and worth the read to see a different way of doing speech.
When you said short, did you mean like 100 pages short?
you can skip paragraphs 14-39 if you haven't already read it all

I'm really not a fan of article 9, and it seems like the court steps on paragraph 1 in favor of paragraph 2.

Quote from: Article 9
1. Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief, in worship, teaching, practice and observance.

2. Freedom to manifest one's religion or beliefs shall be subject only to such limitations as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society in the interests of public safety, for the protection of public order, health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others.

Quote from: court
A State may therefore legitimately consider it necessary to take measures aimed at repressing certain forms of conduct, including the imparting of information and ideas, judged incompatible with respect for the freedom of thought, conscience and religion of others
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The Court therefore agrees with the domestic courts that the applicant must have been aware that her statements were partly based on untrue facts and apt to arouse (justified) indignation in others. In that context, the Court reiterates that the Convention States are even required, under their positive obligations under Article 9 of the Convention, to ensure the peaceful co-existence of religious and non-religious groups and individuals under their jurisdiction by ensuring an atmosphere of mutual tolerance (see paragraph 44 above). The Court endorses the Regional Court’s statement in its judgment of 15 February 2011, that presenting objects of religious worship in a provocative way capable of hurting the feelings of the followers of that religion could be conceived as a malicious violation of the spirit of tolerance, which was one of the bases of a democratic society
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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1292 on: November 01, 2018, 02:52:35 PM »
I can't make my American brain understand how anyone feels it's a good idea to so closely tie one person's freedoms to another's sensibilities.  The court is trying hard for "mutual tolerance" but the law will clearly reward anyone who can establish their indignation.

This consideration is completely foreign as well. "Yeah you got your freedom of thought pissed on but you only had to pay 50 bucks."

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56. Lastly, the Court reiterates that the applicant was ordered to pay a moderate fine of only EUR 480 in total for the three statements made, although the Criminal Code alternatively would have provided for up to six months’ imprisonment. Furthermore, the fine imposed was on the lower end of the statutory range of punishment of up to 360 day-fines, namely only 120 day-fines, and the domestic courts applied only the minimum day?fine of EUR 4. Though the applicant had no previous criminal record and this was taken into account as a mitigating factor, her repeated infringement had to be considered as an aggravating factor. Under the circumstances, the Court does not consider the criminal sanction as disproportionate.
   

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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1293 on: November 01, 2018, 10:48:41 PM »
he is obviously slowly going insane, and it's wonderful.

https://twitter.com/BritishGQ/status/1057234945427628032
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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1294 on: November 02, 2018, 05:36:13 AM »
very normal dude.

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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1295 on: November 02, 2018, 06:14:32 AM »
he is obviously slowly going insane, and it's wonderful.

https://twitter.com/BritishGQ/status/1057234945427628032

This guy and my new bff Jacob Wohl have my full attention.


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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1296 on: November 02, 2018, 07:10:23 AM »
I don't know who Jordan Peterson is.

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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1297 on: November 02, 2018, 07:25:06 AM »
Then keep his name out ya mouth
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Re: The Death of Free Speech: Uber PC'ism-A further look
« Reply #1298 on: November 02, 2018, 10:42:10 AM »
OMG. The bit about lying is unreal!

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« Reply #1299 on: November 02, 2018, 10:43:53 AM »
OMG. The bit about lying is unreal!

And also the bit about beef. Also unreal! "Unfortunately, yes." lol