Obama sez No to Keystone

[jtksu]

Can't they just route it next to a federal highway through Neb and threaten to withhold highway funds if they don't fall in line?  Worked for the drinking age.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Can't they just route it next to a federal highway through Neb and threaten to withhold highway funds if they don't fall in line?  Worked for the drinking age.

Way to risky, in my opinion. What if there was a leak? The highway would be all slippery with oil.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Can't they just route it next to a federal highway through Neb and threaten to withhold highway funds if they don't fall in line?  Worked for the drinking age.

Why would they do that when they can just route the pipeline around the sandhills, minimizing risks and not pissing off an entire state?

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Nuts, I thought you were just f'ing around, but you're really buying the Sand Hills excuse, aren't you? This is the real reason, and everyone knows it.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Nuts, I thought you were just f'ing around, but you're really buying the Sand Hills excuse, aren't you? This is the real reason, and everyone knows it.

If that were the real reason, he wouldn't be accepting the proposal in a few months like he is going to do.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

And Obama has just released his first 2012 campaign ad. It accuses... Big Oil. Just a coincidence, I'm sure.

[steve dave]

I'm not sure anyone in this thread has any idea what this thing was about other than the president nix'd it.....

yes, confirmed

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I'm not sure anyone in this thread has any idea what this thing was about other than the president nix'd it.....

yes, confirmed

Thanks for sharing your insidery info. 

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Some pretty awesome post-hoc rationalization by the libtards.  "It's the republican sand farmers that forced Obama to block this"  Jesus Christ you guys are pathetic.  Nothing like the anti-intellectual left and its willful ignorance.

Obama apologists are the worst.  His actions here are inexcusable.  So pathetic. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

Some pretty awesome post-hoc rationalization by the libtards.  "It's the republican sand farmers that forced Obama to block this"  Jesus Christ you guys are pathetic.  Nothing like the anti-intellectual left and its willful ignorance.

Obama apologists are the worst.  His actions here are inexcusable.  So pathetic. 

Nobody "forced" Obama to block this. Obama simply made the right decision in this instance. What rationalization is post-hoc? Did you not notice the shitstorm that Dave Heineman (R) has been throwing at this pipeline for over a year now?

[Stupid Fitz]

Some pretty awesome post-hoc rationalization by the libtards.  "It's the republican sand farmers that forced Obama to block this"  Jesus Christ you guys are pathetic.  Nothing like the anti-intellectual left and its willful ignorance.

Obama apologists are the worst.  His actions here are inexcusable.  So pathetic. 

Nobody "forced" Obama to block this. Obama simply made the right decision in this instance. What rationalization is post-hoc? Did you not notice the shitstorm that Dave Heineman (R) has been throwing at this pipeline for over a year now?

 

[AzCat]

Thanks Barack!  May send you a campaign contribution this time around!   

[sys]

good decision.  good pipeline, bad route.  happy to see poltics et al functioned correctly.

[Pete]

good decision.  good pipeline, bad route.  happy to see poltics et al functioned correctly.

Agreed.

You shouldn't be allowed to post in this thread if you do not know what the ogallala aquifer is, and it's role on the economy in the middle states of this country.

[Pete]

A spill seems to be a stupid argument given the safety procedures, remote valves, leak detection, and construction of the pipe in general. It seems to be much safer than train, truck or ship. How long would oil need to sit on the surface untouched to leach at least 50' down through the soil?  Liberal fear mongering.

How do you think the ogallala aquifer get's refilled?  JFC.

[Pete]

A spill seems to be a stupid argument given the safety procedures, remote valves, leak detection, and construction of the pipe in general. It seems to be much safer than train, truck or ship. How long would oil need to sit on the surface untouched to leach at least 50' down through the soil?  Liberal fear mongering.

yeah, it wasn't liberals in NE that were up in arms about it dumbass

Exactly. It was life long farmers....stewards of the land.  But, they are just a bunch of rough ridin' liberals, eh?

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

A spill seems to be a stupid argument given the safety procedures, remote valves, leak detection, and construction of the pipe in general. It seems to be much safer than train, truck or ship. How long would oil need to sit on the surface untouched to leach at least 50' down through the soil?  Liberal fear mongering.

How do you think the ogallala aquifer get's refilled?  JFC.

The point was that if there were to be a leak, it would never be allowed to seep into the groundwater.

[Pete]

A spill seems to be a stupid argument given the safety procedures, remote valves, leak detection, and construction of the pipe in general. It seems to be much safer than train, truck or ship. How long would oil need to sit on the surface untouched to leach at least 50' down through the soil?  Liberal fear mongering.

How do you think the ogallala aquifer get's refilled?  JFC.

The point was that if there were to be a leak, it would never be allowed to seep into the groundwater.

LOL

[MakeItRain]

A spill seems to be a stupid argument given the safety procedures, remote valves, leak detection, and construction of the pipe in general. It seems to be much safer than train, truck or ship. How long would oil need to sit on the surface untouched to leach at least 50' down through the soil?  Liberal fear mongering.

How do you think the ogallala aquifer get's refilled?  JFC.

The point was that if there were to be a leak, it would never be allowed to seep into the groundwater.

Would it spill up, out of the ground and into the air?
http://thetyee.ca/News/2010/06/21/AlbertaToTexasPipeline/

[Rage Against the McKee]

A spill seems to be a stupid argument given the safety procedures, remote valves, leak detection, and construction of the pipe in general. It seems to be much safer than train, truck or ship. How long would oil need to sit on the surface untouched to leach at least 50' down through the soil?  Liberal fear mongering.

How do you think the ogallala aquifer get's refilled?  JFC.

The point was that if there were to be a leak, it would never be allowed to seep into the groundwater.

omg

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Yes, stopping and cleaning up a leak on the plains of Nebraska is just as difficult as stopping and cleaning up on the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico.

[sonofdaxjones]

So, there's no alarming or monitoring systems on these pipelines, they could literally be dumping oil for days on end if they have a problem?

Wow, pretty low tech.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

So, there's no alarming or monitoring systems on these pipelines, they could literally be dumping oil for days on end if they have a problem?

Wow, pretty low tech.

And no shut-off valves, say, ever half-mile or so, either. Completely low tech. Way safer to ship this stuff by tanker. What's the worst that could happen?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

A spill seems to be a stupid argument given the safety procedures, remote valves, leak detection, and construction of the pipe in general. It seems to be much safer than train, truck or ship. How long would oil need to sit on the surface untouched to leach at least 50' down through the soil?  Liberal fear mongering.

yeah, it wasn't liberals in NE that were up in arms about it dumbass

Exactly. It was life long farmers....stewards of the land.  But, they are just a bunch of rough ridin' liberals, eh?

Libtard outed.  You people can't be serious.  Delusion lives here

[jtksu]

I apologize for my low PLIQ but:  Has there been any major issues with the giant pipeline running through AK/Canada?  I get that they're different tech but I would assume newer tech means better tech?