Post by: renocat on June 08, 2017, 09:00:43 PM
If we elect this moron, then we are a lost cause.
Post by: bucket on June 08, 2017, 09:04:50 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 08, 2017, 09:48:18 PM
Post by: renocat on June 08, 2017, 10:20:01 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on June 09, 2017, 01:29:19 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 09, 2017, 08:40:21 AM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 09, 2017, 08:44:11 AM
Brownback is less hansom, intelligent and persuasive than Kobach, and mushed every opponent he faced.
Post by: Brock Landers on June 09, 2017, 08:49:34 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kansas.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics-government%2Flik19m%2Fpicture155065594%2Falternates%2FFREE_768%2Fkobachsite&hash=a8cf236a119976ecd581cc69d08b0fb4c918ded1)
Post by: SdK on June 09, 2017, 09:06:36 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 09, 2017, 09:17:06 AM
Post by: Gooch on June 09, 2017, 09:20:12 AM
Post by: Tobias on June 09, 2017, 09:54:14 AM
Post by: renocat on June 09, 2017, 11:08:37 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 09, 2017, 11:18:02 AM
Post by: mocat on June 09, 2017, 11:20:13 AM
Post by: wetwillie on June 09, 2017, 11:39:21 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 09, 2017, 11:41:24 AM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcjonline.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Fstyles%2Fslideshow__640x360%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F2490094_web1_AP17111137028172254.jpg%3Fitok%3Df6N6Q07E&hash=66e415c2d901ddf57c72087f2dc3353da268e5a5)
Post by: wetwillie on June 09, 2017, 12:55:30 PM
Post by: wetwillie on June 09, 2017, 12:56:07 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 09, 2017, 01:09:26 PM
Post by: steve dave on June 09, 2017, 01:26:29 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 09, 2017, 01:27:41 PM
Post by: slackcat on June 09, 2017, 01:28:55 PM
Quote
In 1984, Kobach graduated from Washburn Rural High School in Topeka, Kansas, where he was co-valedictorian and class president. He earned his Bachelor of Arts degree in Government from Harvard University, graduating summa cum laude and first in his department.[25] He then received an M.A. and Ph.D. in Politics at the University of Oxford, where he was a Marshall Scholar.
He attended Yale Law School, where he earned a Juris Doctor degree in 1995[1][26] and was an editor of the Yale Law Journal. During this time, he published two books: The Referendum: Direct Democracy in Switzerland (Dartmouth, 1994), and Political Capital: The Motives, Tactics, and Goals of Politicized Businesses in South Africa
He's smart! :horrorsurprise:
Post by: mocat on June 09, 2017, 01:31:31 PM
Post by: steve dave on June 09, 2017, 01:52:05 PM
Post by: SdK on June 09, 2017, 01:53:21 PM
Post by: Skipper44 on June 09, 2017, 01:54:25 PM
I like his clothes and hair, that's not a flattering shot of his smile thoughassuming this is about Svtay he needs to tighten up the sideburns - he looks more Peach Pit than Governor's Mansion
Post by: Tobias on June 09, 2017, 01:59:16 PM
Post by: mocat on June 09, 2017, 02:31:02 PM
Svaty is equally good looking, just an FYI
(https://www.kansasagnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Josh-Svaty.jpg)
Post by: mocat on June 09, 2017, 02:31:33 PM
Post by: wetwillie on June 09, 2017, 02:58:29 PM
Post by: wetwillie on June 09, 2017, 03:00:42 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcjonline.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2F15072613.jpg&hash=7655c2499320fff53bff6a62cef976e4d40a5d13)
Post by: star seed 7 on June 09, 2017, 03:02:09 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kansascity.com%2Fnews%2Fpolitics-government%2Ftfajvj%2Fpicture146026194%2Falternates%2FFREE_640%2FSvaty&hash=42296d860b76631afa795b9feecfbbc5b6a5deee)
Kate, we have to go back
Post by: mocat on June 09, 2017, 03:04:54 PM
Counter point
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disappointing choice of shutter speed there
Post by: Tobias on June 09, 2017, 03:12:04 PM
Kate, we have to go back
:lol:
Post by: yoga-like_abana on June 09, 2017, 03:13:44 PM
Counter pointthat hair
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 09, 2017, 03:20:40 PM
Post by: Brock Landers on June 09, 2017, 04:28:40 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 09, 2017, 04:34:39 PM
Kobach will play all the KS rubes like a fiddle
Fact
Post by: Gooch on June 12, 2017, 01:08:46 PM
He is already taking a page from the Trump play book by just making crap up. He went full racist in his very first official campaign appearance stating that the only reason Kansas has money issues is due to the $425 million dollars of social services that illegals are taking from hard working Kansans. When asked where that number comes from he goes radio silence. Just make up crap throw it out and the rubes take it as fact. Trump 101.Kobach will play all the KS rubes like a fiddle
Fact
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 12, 2017, 01:26:21 PM
Good to know.
Post by: bucket on June 12, 2017, 01:33:17 PM
"full racist"- Not wanting illegals to under bid and take over legal citizen job opportunities.
Good to know.
That's not what Gooch said
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 12, 2017, 01:36:09 PM
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 12, 2017, 01:37:32 PM
Pretty much is, homes."full racist"- Not wanting illegals to under bid and take over legal citizen job opportunities.
Good to know.
That's not what Gooch said
Post by: bucket on June 12, 2017, 01:42:27 PM
Pretty much is, homes."full racist"- Not wanting illegals to under bid and take over legal citizen job opportunities.
Good to know.
That's not what Gooch said
Sad
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 12, 2017, 01:43:27 PM
Post by: bucket on June 12, 2017, 01:54:32 PM
If the US citizens would just work harder and more efficiently, maybe they could keep their jobs that the illegals are stealing.
You don't understand. "Kansas is the sanctuary state of the Midwest," according to Kobach.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 12, 2017, 02:38:06 PM
A few facts you might not know about Kobach:
1. He's smarter than every one of you dumbasses.
2. He makes liberals heads explode for being upset about things like "illegal" immigration and voter "fraud."
3. He's going to be our next governor and the Kansas liberals are gonna meltdown harder than when Trump won.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 12, 2017, 02:42:10 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 12, 2017, 02:45:59 PM
Post by: wetwillie on June 12, 2017, 03:24:57 PM
Post by: bucket on June 12, 2017, 03:25:36 PM
Yes. YEEEEESSSSSS! :woot:
A few facts you might not know about Kobach:
1. He's smarter than every one of you dumbasses.
2. He makes liberals heads explode for being upset about things like "illegal" immigration and voter "fraud."
3. He's going to be our next governor and the Kansas liberals are gonna meltdown harder than when Trump won.
Kobach said, “I think the president-elect is absolutely correct when he says the number of illegal votes cast exceeds the popular vote margin … ”
"Since the Legislature granted him the authority to prosecute voter fraud two years ago, he has convicted nine people — only one of whom wasn’t a citizen."
http://cjonline.com/opinion/editorials/2017-06-10/editorial-kris-kobach-doesn-t-belong-cedar-crest
Post by: #LIFE on June 12, 2017, 11:10:19 PM
Post by: Trim on June 13, 2017, 12:37:58 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 13, 2017, 08:15:52 AM
Post by: Gooch on June 13, 2017, 08:17:17 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 13, 2017, 08:18:15 AM
Who's the other guy?
He's Keith Mark.
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2017, 08:47:30 AM
Post by: bucket on June 13, 2017, 09:08:46 AM
Symphony in the hills is great! Right by my grandparents place. :thumbs:
Tell us more about your disdain for immigrants!
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on June 13, 2017, 09:13:08 AM
Post by: renocat on June 13, 2017, 09:27:28 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 13, 2017, 12:44:53 PM
Yes. YEEEEESSSSSS! :woot:
A few facts you might not know about Kobach:
1. He's smarter than every one of you dumbasses.
2. He makes liberals heads explode for being upset about things like "illegal" immigration and voter "fraud."
3. He's going to be our next governor and the Kansas liberals are gonna meltdown harder than when Trump won.
Kobach said, “I think the president-elect is absolutely correct when he says the number of illegal votes cast exceeds the popular vote margin … ”
"Since the Legislature granted him the authority to prosecute voter fraud two years ago, he has convicted nine people — only one of whom wasn’t a citizen."
http://cjonline.com/opinion/editorials/2017-06-10/editorial-kris-kobach-doesn-t-belong-cedar-crest
Tell you what - I'll concede it is highly unlikely that the number of illegal votes exceeded the popular vote margin, and you should go ahead and concede that the number of illegal voting prosecutions and convictions is in no way indicative of the amount of illegal voting that's actually going on. The thing about "fraud" is that it is done in secret and most of it goes undetected, not unlike tax fraud which the IRS estimates results in $500 billion of revenue lost every year (funny, you never hear the liberals question this IRS estimate on the basis that there are so few prosecutions relative to that staggering number). And "illegal" voting encompasses way more than voting by illegal immigrants. Let's all use some common sense here. Illegal voting disenfranchises everyone who casts their vote legally, and it's something we ought to care about.
Post by: bucket on June 13, 2017, 12:48:52 PM
Yes. YEEEEESSSSSS! :woot:
A few facts you might not know about Kobach:
1. He's smarter than every one of you dumbasses.
2. He makes liberals heads explode for being upset about things like "illegal" immigration and voter "fraud."
3. He's going to be our next governor and the Kansas liberals are gonna meltdown harder than when Trump won.
Kobach said, “I think the president-elect is absolutely correct when he says the number of illegal votes cast exceeds the popular vote margin … ”
"Since the Legislature granted him the authority to prosecute voter fraud two years ago, he has convicted nine people — only one of whom wasn’t a citizen."
http://cjonline.com/opinion/editorials/2017-06-10/editorial-kris-kobach-doesn-t-belong-cedar-crest
Tell you what - I'll concede it is highly unlikely that the number of illegal votes exceeded the popular vote margin, and you should go ahead and concede that the number of illegal voting prosecutions and convictions is in no way indicative of the amount of illegal voting that's actually going on. The thing about "fraud" is that it is done in secret and most of it goes undetected. And "illegal" voting encompasses way more than voting by illegal immigrants. Let's all use some common sense here. Illegal voting disenfranchises everyone who casts their vote legally, and it's something we ought to care about.
Highly unlikely? :lol:
I should concede, "that the number of illegal voting prosecutions and convictions is in no way indicative of the amount of illegal voting that's actually going on." Why?
Kobach has made this the focus of his career. What does he have to show for it?
In terms of voter fraud for aliens. One person.
In overall terms of voter fraud. Nine convictions.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 13, 2017, 12:57:28 PM
Yes. YEEEEESSSSSS! :woot:
A few facts you might not know about Kobach:
1. He's smarter than every one of you dumbasses.
2. He makes liberals heads explode for being upset about things like "illegal" immigration and voter "fraud."
3. He's going to be our next governor and the Kansas liberals are gonna meltdown harder than when Trump won.
Kobach said, “I think the president-elect is absolutely correct when he says the number of illegal votes cast exceeds the popular vote margin … ”
"Since the Legislature granted him the authority to prosecute voter fraud two years ago, he has convicted nine people — only one of whom wasn’t a citizen."
http://cjonline.com/opinion/editorials/2017-06-10/editorial-kris-kobach-doesn-t-belong-cedar-crest
Tell you what - I'll concede it is highly unlikely that the number of illegal votes exceeded the popular vote margin, and you should go ahead and concede that the number of illegal voting prosecutions and convictions is in no way indicative of the amount of illegal voting that's actually going on. The thing about "fraud" is that it is done in secret and most of it goes undetected. And "illegal" voting encompasses way more than voting by illegal immigrants. Let's all use some common sense here. Illegal voting disenfranchises everyone who casts their vote legally, and it's something we ought to care about.
Highly unlikely? :lol:
I should concede, "that the number of illegal voting prosecutions and convictions is in no way indicative of the amount of illegal voting that's actually going on." Why?
Kobach has made this the focus of his career. What does he have to show for it?
In terms of voter fraud for aliens. One person.
In overall terms of voter fraud. Nine convictions.
See my point above I added about tax fraud. Try to use some common sense. We don't really know how much voter fraud there is because it fraud, but whether it is a lot or a little it is something we should work to prevent. That shouldn't be a controversial point at all, but for liberals it is because it threatens to depress their "base." Telling.
Post by: bucket on June 13, 2017, 01:02:50 PM
Yes. YEEEEESSSSSS! :woot:
A few facts you might not know about Kobach:
1. He's smarter than every one of you dumbasses.
2. He makes liberals heads explode for being upset about things like "illegal" immigration and voter "fraud."
3. He's going to be our next governor and the Kansas liberals are gonna meltdown harder than when Trump won.
Kobach said, “I think the president-elect is absolutely correct when he says the number of illegal votes cast exceeds the popular vote margin … ”
"Since the Legislature granted him the authority to prosecute voter fraud two years ago, he has convicted nine people — only one of whom wasn’t a citizen."
http://cjonline.com/opinion/editorials/2017-06-10/editorial-kris-kobach-doesn-t-belong-cedar-crest
Tell you what - I'll concede it is highly unlikely that the number of illegal votes exceeded the popular vote margin, and you should go ahead and concede that the number of illegal voting prosecutions and convictions is in no way indicative of the amount of illegal voting that's actually going on. The thing about "fraud" is that it is done in secret and most of it goes undetected. And "illegal" voting encompasses way more than voting by illegal immigrants. Let's all use some common sense here. Illegal voting disenfranchises everyone who casts their vote legally, and it's something we ought to care about.
Highly unlikely? :lol:
I should concede, "that the number of illegal voting prosecutions and convictions is in no way indicative of the amount of illegal voting that's actually going on." Why?
Kobach has made this the focus of his career. What does he have to show for it?
In terms of voter fraud for aliens. One person.
In overall terms of voter fraud. Nine convictions.
See my point above I added about tax fraud. Try to use some common sense. We don't really know how much voter fraud there is because it fraud, but whether it is a lot or a little it is something we should work to prevent. That shouldn't be a controversial point at all, but for liberals it is because it threatens to depress their "base." Telling.
For the record, voter fraud is bad. However, it's not a concern for me considering it's negligent. Credit downgrades and shortfalls are much more concerning to me. Kobach seems to be on-board with that as well.
Post by: DQ12 on June 13, 2017, 01:05:12 PM
It's really not fiscally conservative to devote a ton of resources to fixing a problem that may not exist to any meaningful degree.Yes. YEEEEESSSSSS! :woot:
A few facts you might not know about Kobach:
1. He's smarter than every one of you dumbasses.
2. He makes liberals heads explode for being upset about things like "illegal" immigration and voter "fraud."
3. He's going to be our next governor and the Kansas liberals are gonna meltdown harder than when Trump won.
Kobach said, “I think the president-elect is absolutely correct when he says the number of illegal votes cast exceeds the popular vote margin … ”
"Since the Legislature granted him the authority to prosecute voter fraud two years ago, he has convicted nine people — only one of whom wasn’t a citizen."
http://cjonline.com/opinion/editorials/2017-06-10/editorial-kris-kobach-doesn-t-belong-cedar-crest
Tell you what - I'll concede it is highly unlikely that the number of illegal votes exceeded the popular vote margin, and you should go ahead and concede that the number of illegal voting prosecutions and convictions is in no way indicative of the amount of illegal voting that's actually going on. The thing about "fraud" is that it is done in secret and most of it goes undetected. And "illegal" voting encompasses way more than voting by illegal immigrants. Let's all use some common sense here. Illegal voting disenfranchises everyone who casts their vote legally, and it's something we ought to care about.
Highly unlikely? :lol:
I should concede, "that the number of illegal voting prosecutions and convictions is in no way indicative of the amount of illegal voting that's actually going on." Why?
Kobach has made this the focus of his career. What does he have to show for it?
In terms of voter fraud for aliens. One person.
In overall terms of voter fraud. Nine convictions.
See my point above I added about tax fraud. Try to use some common sense. We don't really know how much voter fraud there is because it fraud, but whether it is a lot or a little it is something we should work to prevent. That shouldn't be a controversial point at all, but for liberals it is because it threatens to depress their "base." Telling.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 13, 2017, 01:09:29 PM
It's really not fiscally conservative to devote a ton of resources to fixing a problem that may not exist to any meaningful degree.Yes. YEEEEESSSSSS! :woot:
A few facts you might not know about Kobach:
1. He's smarter than every one of you dumbasses.
2. He makes liberals heads explode for being upset about things like "illegal" immigration and voter "fraud."
3. He's going to be our next governor and the Kansas liberals are gonna meltdown harder than when Trump won.
Kobach said, “I think the president-elect is absolutely correct when he says the number of illegal votes cast exceeds the popular vote margin … ”
"Since the Legislature granted him the authority to prosecute voter fraud two years ago, he has convicted nine people — only one of whom wasn’t a citizen."
http://cjonline.com/opinion/editorials/2017-06-10/editorial-kris-kobach-doesn-t-belong-cedar-crest
Tell you what - I'll concede it is highly unlikely that the number of illegal votes exceeded the popular vote margin, and you should go ahead and concede that the number of illegal voting prosecutions and convictions is in no way indicative of the amount of illegal voting that's actually going on. The thing about "fraud" is that it is done in secret and most of it goes undetected. And "illegal" voting encompasses way more than voting by illegal immigrants. Let's all use some common sense here. Illegal voting disenfranchises everyone who casts their vote legally, and it's something we ought to care about.
Highly unlikely? :lol:
I should concede, "that the number of illegal voting prosecutions and convictions is in no way indicative of the amount of illegal voting that's actually going on." Why?
Kobach has made this the focus of his career. What does he have to show for it?
In terms of voter fraud for aliens. One person.
In overall terms of voter fraud. Nine convictions.
See my point above I added about tax fraud. Try to use some common sense. We don't really know how much voter fraud there is because it fraud, but whether it is a lot or a little it is something we should work to prevent. That shouldn't be a controversial point at all, but for liberals it is because it threatens to depress their "base." Telling.
It really doesn't require that much resources to require voter registration and ID, or occasionally prosecute cases of fraud as a deterrent. And that resources it does require are worth it to avoid disenfranchising all of us. Ballot integrity is essential to our republic. There are few things more important.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 13, 2017, 01:17:07 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 13, 2017, 01:21:43 PM
http://cjonline.com/news/state-government/2017-01-14/few-cases-many-questions-characterize-kobach-s-war-voter-fraud#
Post by: star seed 7 on June 13, 2017, 01:26:40 PM
Post by: wetwillie on June 13, 2017, 01:43:20 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 13, 2017, 01:58:09 PM
https://thinkprogress.org/the-3-people-being-prosecuted-for-voter-fraud-in-kansas-8aec6c339c48
All of these people seem to be confused and elderly.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 13, 2017, 02:15:01 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 13, 2017, 02:24:55 PM
Post by: AbeFroman on June 13, 2017, 02:26:28 PM
I bet tax fraud is way more than 500 billion
Absolutely, probably at least $500bn alone amongst Mar-a-lago members.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 13, 2017, 02:27:51 PM
Wouldn't voter fraud in theory balance itself out with an equal proportion of each side tallying illegal votes? I mean certainly you don't believe that 100% of voter fraud exists only on on side right?
Actually that is exactly what they think
Post by: cfbandyman on June 13, 2017, 02:36:16 PM
Wouldn't voter fraud in theory balance itself out with an equal proportion of each side tallying illegal votes? I mean certainly you don't believe that 100% of voter fraud exists only on on side right?
Actually that is exactly what they think
Pretty much.
Post by: DQ12 on June 13, 2017, 02:51:29 PM
Right but there are plenty of things "essential to our republic." Spending millions of dollars to tilt at these voter-fraud windmills is the definition of government waste.It's really not fiscally conservative to devote a ton of resources to fixing a problem that may not exist to any meaningful degree.Yes. YEEEEESSSSSS! :woot:
A few facts you might not know about Kobach:
1. He's smarter than every one of you dumbasses.
2. He makes liberals heads explode for being upset about things like "illegal" immigration and voter "fraud."
3. He's going to be our next governor and the Kansas liberals are gonna meltdown harder than when Trump won.
Kobach said, “I think the president-elect is absolutely correct when he says the number of illegal votes cast exceeds the popular vote margin … ”
"Since the Legislature granted him the authority to prosecute voter fraud two years ago, he has convicted nine people — only one of whom wasn’t a citizen."
http://cjonline.com/opinion/editorials/2017-06-10/editorial-kris-kobach-doesn-t-belong-cedar-crest
Tell you what - I'll concede it is highly unlikely that the number of illegal votes exceeded the popular vote margin, and you should go ahead and concede that the number of illegal voting prosecutions and convictions is in no way indicative of the amount of illegal voting that's actually going on. The thing about "fraud" is that it is done in secret and most of it goes undetected. And "illegal" voting encompasses way more than voting by illegal immigrants. Let's all use some common sense here. Illegal voting disenfranchises everyone who casts their vote legally, and it's something we ought to care about.
Highly unlikely? :lol:
I should concede, "that the number of illegal voting prosecutions and convictions is in no way indicative of the amount of illegal voting that's actually going on." Why?
Kobach has made this the focus of his career. What does he have to show for it?
In terms of voter fraud for aliens. One person.
In overall terms of voter fraud. Nine convictions.
See my point above I added about tax fraud. Try to use some common sense. We don't really know how much voter fraud there is because it fraud, but whether it is a lot or a little it is something we should work to prevent. That shouldn't be a controversial point at all, but for liberals it is because it threatens to depress their "base." Telling.
It really doesn't require that much resources to require voter registration and ID, or occasionally prosecute cases of fraud as a deterrent. And that resources it does require are worth it to avoid disenfranchising all of us. Ballot integrity is essential to our republic. There are few things more important.
Post by: bucket on June 13, 2017, 03:00:55 PM
Post by: cfbandyman on June 13, 2017, 03:23:38 PM
Right but there are plenty of things "essential to our republic." Spending millions of dollars to tilt at these voter-fraud windmills is the definition of government waste.It's really not fiscally conservative to devote a ton of resources to fixing a problem that may not exist to any meaningful degree.Yes. YEEEEESSSSSS! :woot:
A few facts you might not know about Kobach:
1. He's smarter than every one of you dumbasses.
2. He makes liberals heads explode for being upset about things like "illegal" immigration and voter "fraud."
3. He's going to be our next governor and the Kansas liberals are gonna meltdown harder than when Drumpf won.
Kobach said, “I think the president-elect is absolutely correct when he says the number of illegal votes cast exceeds the popular vote margin … ”
"Since the Legislature granted him the authority to prosecute voter fraud two years ago, he has convicted nine people — only one of whom wasn’t a citizen."
http://cjonline.com/opinion/editorials/2017-06-10/editorial-kris-kobach-doesn-t-belong-cedar-crest
Tell you what - I'll concede it is highly unlikely that the number of illegal votes exceeded the popular vote margin, and you should go ahead and concede that the number of illegal voting prosecutions and convictions is in no way indicative of the amount of illegal voting that's actually going on. The thing about "fraud" is that it is done in secret and most of it goes undetected. And "illegal" voting encompasses way more than voting by illegal immigrants. Let's all use some common sense here. Illegal voting disenfranchises everyone who casts their vote legally, and it's something we ought to care about.
Highly unlikely? :lol:
I should concede, "that the number of illegal voting prosecutions and convictions is in no way indicative of the amount of illegal voting that's actually going on." Why?
Kobach has made this the focus of his career. What does he have to show for it?
In terms of voter fraud for aliens. One person.
In overall terms of voter fraud. Nine convictions.
See my point above I added about tax fraud. Try to use some common sense. We don't really know how much voter fraud there is because it fraud, but whether it is a lot or a little it is something we should work to prevent. That shouldn't be a controversial point at all, but for liberals it is because it threatens to depress their "base." Telling.
It really doesn't require that much resources to require voter registration and ID, or occasionally prosecute cases of fraud as a deterrent. And that resources it does require are worth it to avoid disenfranchising all of us. Ballot integrity is essential to our republic. There are few things more important.
But, that's money ksu wants to spend money on. That's different than spending that money on potential moochers of the system.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 14, 2017, 11:19:29 AM
It's sometimes hard to tell if liberals are really this foolish or just trollin.
Post by: DQ12 on June 14, 2017, 11:23:20 AM
Interesting equivalency here. Requiring people to register and present ID is the same cost and merit as spending gobs on welfare....If it's a problem, then yeah, we should fix it.
It's sometimes hard to tell if liberals are really this foolish or just trollin.
What did his witch hunt find though? 9 people or so? That's government waste, man. If you can't put your red pennant down for a second and call a spade a spade, then you may be a republican (or at least a RINO), but you're not a conservative.
This pet project voter fraud stuff is poser crap.
Post by: cfbandyman on June 14, 2017, 11:31:11 AM
Interesting equivalency here. Requiring people to register and present ID is the same cost and merit as spending gobs on welfare....If it's a problem, then yeah, we should fix it.
It's sometimes hard to tell if liberals are really this foolish or just trollin.
What did his witch hunt find though? 9 people or so? That's government waste, man. If you can't put your red pennant down for a second and call a spade a spade, then you may be a republican (or at least a RINO), but you're not a conservative.
This pet project voter fraud stuff is poser crap.
This
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 14, 2017, 11:36:04 AM
Interesting equivalency here. Requiring people to register and present ID is the same cost and merit as spending gobs on welfare....If it's a problem, then yeah, we should fix it.
It's sometimes hard to tell if liberals are really this foolish or just trollin.
What did his witch hunt find though? 9 people or so? That's government waste, man. If you can't put your red pennant down for a second and call a spade a spade, then you may be a republican (or at least a RINO), but you're not a conservative.
This pet project voter fraud stuff is poser crap.
Again, the nature of fraud is that it is concealed and not easy to identify. It is, for example, almost impossible to detect people voting on behalf of other registered voters except through dumb luck. So citing the low number of prosecutions as proof this isn't a problem is extremely silly.
Second, prosecutions serve as a deterrent to other people committing fraud.
Finally, it costs almost nothing to employ reasonable common sense safeguards like requiring photo ID. We've spent far more money litigating these issues with the liberal groups determined to protect their perceived advantage in allowing people to vote without ID or looser registration requirements.
Post by: DQ12 on June 14, 2017, 11:44:01 AM
but we both know it's a bogus argument to say "listen we need to spend money on this problem, but we don't know if it's a problem because we can't know, but we're gonna spend money on it anyway." isn't that pretty much what the argument against spending money on climate change?Interesting equivalency here. Requiring people to register and present ID is the same cost and merit as spending gobs on welfare....If it's a problem, then yeah, we should fix it.
It's sometimes hard to tell if liberals are really this foolish or just trollin.
What did his witch hunt find though? 9 people or so? That's government waste, man. If you can't put your red pennant down for a second and call a spade a spade, then you may be a republican (or at least a RINO), but you're not a conservative.
This pet project voter fraud stuff is poser crap.
Again, the nature of fraud is that it is concealed and not easy to identify. It is, for example, almost impossible to detect people voting on behalf of other registered voters except through dumb luck. So citing the low number of prosecutions as proof this isn't a problem is extremely silly.
Second, prosecutions serve as a deterrent to other people committing fraud.
Finally, it costs almost nothing to employ reasonable common sense safeguards like requiring photo ID. We've spent far more money litigating these issues with the liberal groups determined to protect their voting base.
I understand that prosecution has a deterrent rationale. but how many people are we deterring here? if this is a problem worth solving, then I would expect someone as smart as kobach, after years of being on this case, to have some evidence that this is a real problem. how much money/time/investigation is TOO much before we say "eh, maybe this isn't that big of a deal. maybe our resources would be better spent elsewhere." I think we passed that point some time ago.
at some point, this becomes government waste.
Post by: cfbandyman on June 14, 2017, 11:45:32 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 14, 2017, 11:50:30 AM
but we both know it's a bogus argument to say "listen we need to spend money on this problem, but we don't know if it's a problem because we can't know, but we're gonna spend money on it anyway." isn't that pretty much what the argument against spending money on climate change?Interesting equivalency here. Requiring people to register and present ID is the same cost and merit as spending gobs on welfare....If it's a problem, then yeah, we should fix it.
It's sometimes hard to tell if liberals are really this foolish or just trollin.
What did his witch hunt find though? 9 people or so? That's government waste, man. If you can't put your red pennant down for a second and call a spade a spade, then you may be a republican (or at least a RINO), but you're not a conservative.
This pet project voter fraud stuff is poser crap.
Again, the nature of fraud is that it is concealed and not easy to identify. It is, for example, almost impossible to detect people voting on behalf of other registered voters except through dumb luck. So citing the low number of prosecutions as proof this isn't a problem is extremely silly.
Second, prosecutions serve as a deterrent to other people committing fraud.
Finally, it costs almost nothing to employ reasonable common sense safeguards like requiring photo ID. We've spent far more money litigating these issues with the liberal groups determined to protect their voting base.
I understand that prosecution has a deterrent rationale. but how many people are we deterring here? if this is a problem worth solving, then I would expect someone as smart as kobach, after years of being on this case, to have some evidence that this is a real problem. how much money/time/investigation is TOO much before we say "eh, maybe this isn't that big of a deal. maybe our resources would be better spent elsewhere." I think we passed that point some time ago.
at some point, this becomes government waste.
You are parsing my three arguments, when they have to be taken together. The low cost must be taken into account when assessing the value of the actions. And we DO know it is a problem, not just in KS but nationwide. We just don't know for certain how big a problem it is. But common sense tells us that due to the nature of fraud, it is a bigger problem than the number of prosecutions.
Post by: DQ12 on June 14, 2017, 11:57:13 AM
You say we do know that this is a problem. How? Do you have a link? Are we relying on "common sense" (really, a "hunch") to think that this must be a problem? Is it Kobach's (or others') paltry number of prosecutions?
I mean, it looks like he's fixing rounding errors. He's embarrassing himself and the party with this stuff.
Post by: cfbandyman on June 14, 2017, 11:58:41 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 14, 2017, 12:03:57 PM
If you want to argue that voter fraud isn't significant enough to take the simple and inexpensive step of requiring voters to present a photo ID, we're just gonna have to disagree. If you think voter fraud is nonexistent then you are delusional.
Post by: DQ12 on June 14, 2017, 12:26:11 PM
Start here I guess, though a google search would give you plenty more information. http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/13/voter-fraud-real-heres-proof/ (http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/13/voter-fraud-real-heres-proof/)Nobody is saying that instances of voter fraud don't exist. We're saying that even after this investigation there's no evidence that it's significant enough to devote much attention to. Your linked article doesn't provide any evidence that it's a real problem. If it provides anything, it's that voter fraud might be a problem.
If you want to argue that voter fraud isn't significant enough to take the simple and inexpensive step of requiring voters to present a photo ID, we're just gonna have to disagree. If you think voter fraud is nonexistent then you are delusional.
Kobach's been after this voter fraud stuff for what, 3 or 4 years now? And we still don't have an answer as to whether or not this is a problem. At some point, his time is up.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 14, 2017, 12:31:19 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 14, 2017, 12:35:42 PM
Start here I guess, though a google search would give you plenty more information. http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/13/voter-fraud-real-heres-proof/ (http://thefederalist.com/2016/10/13/voter-fraud-real-heres-proof/)Nobody is saying that instances of voter fraud don't exist. We're saying that even after this investigation there's no evidence that it's significant enough to devote much attention to. Your linked article doesn't provide any evidence that it's a real problem. If it provides anything, it's that voter fraud might be a problem.
If you want to argue that voter fraud isn't significant enough to take the simple and inexpensive step of requiring voters to present a photo ID, we're just gonna have to disagree. If you think voter fraud is nonexistent then you are delusional.
Kobach's been after this voter fraud stuff for what, 3 or 4 years now? And we still don't have an answer as to whether or not this is a problem. At some point, his time is up.
So now we're down to the meaning of "much attention." Requiring voters to show a photo ID and occasionally prosecuting someone to deter fraud doesn't seem like too much attention. Seems like common sense.
Post by: star seed 7 on June 14, 2017, 12:38:27 PM
LOL that Kobach actually gives a crap about voter fraud.
Thanks for bringing this back around. Kobach only cares about one thing, and that is a pure white America.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 14, 2017, 12:46:34 PM
LOL that Kobach actually gives a crap about voter fraud.
Thanks for bringing this back around. Kobach only cares about one thing, and that is a pure white America.
he cares about winning the office he is running for. I could literally win any office in Kansas with about 15 minutes thought.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 14, 2017, 12:53:23 PM
I was wondering how that double down was going to be. Vagueness, no citing of costs. Also, don't we require ID's already in KS? I dont remember voting and not needing an ID. What problem are we trying to solve? Of yeah, throwing money into a hole. Unless you make it to where it is free for all to get a photo ID card issued from the state, which gasp costs money, to everyone once they turn 18 and to all who are older, than anything else is a boondoggle where ksu and his kin will chase ghosts.
We didn't require ID before Kobach.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 24, 2017, 12:35:20 PM
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/did-votes-by-noncitizens-cost-trump-the-2016-popular-vote-sure-looks-that-way/ (http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/did-votes-by-noncitizens-cost-trump-the-2016-popular-vote-sure-looks-that-way/)
I don't know how many non-citizens are voting, but my hunch is it's enough to require common sense measures like providing proof of citizenship to register.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 24, 2017, 12:49:46 PM
Post by: PowercatPat on June 24, 2017, 12:50:51 PM
Was Trump right? Another study says "probably."
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/did-votes-by-noncitizens-cost-trump-the-2016-popular-vote-sure-looks-that-way/ (http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/did-votes-by-noncitizens-cost-trump-the-2016-popular-vote-sure-looks-that-way/)
I don't know how many non-citizens are voting, but my hunch is it's enough to require common sense measures like providing proof of citizenship to register.
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2017/jun/22/ainsley-earhardt/following-trump-voter-fraud-allegations-claim-57-m/
Post by: SdK on June 24, 2017, 12:56:02 PM
Post by: Emo EMAW on June 24, 2017, 12:56:34 PM
Post by: SdK on June 24, 2017, 12:57:15 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 24, 2017, 01:04:41 PM
Was Trump right? Another study says "probably."
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/did-votes-by-noncitizens-cost-trump-the-2016-popular-vote-sure-looks-that-way/ (http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/did-votes-by-noncitizens-cost-trump-the-2016-popular-vote-sure-looks-that-way/)
I don't know how many non-citizens are voting, but my hunch is it's enough to require common sense measures like providing proof of citizenship to register.
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2017/jun/22/ainsley-earhardt/following-trump-voter-fraud-allegations-claim-57-m/
"Politifact" has zero credibility and that (outdated) piece demonstrates why. There are studies on both sides. The truth is likely somewhere in between.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on June 24, 2017, 01:19:45 PM
Voter participation would make all of this a non issue.
Not really man, if everyone of voting age voted, Trump would've lost the popular vote by 6-10 million illegal votes, don't you see?
Post by: SdK on June 24, 2017, 01:31:25 PM
TouchéVoter participation would make all of this a non issue.
Not really man, if everyone of voting age voted, Trump would've lost the popular vote by 6-10 million illegal votes, don't you see?
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on June 24, 2017, 01:56:37 PM
Post by: PowercatPat on June 24, 2017, 03:41:02 PM
Was Trump right? Another study says "probably."
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/did-votes-by-noncitizens-cost-trump-the-2016-popular-vote-sure-looks-that-way/ (http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/did-votes-by-noncitizens-cost-trump-the-2016-popular-vote-sure-looks-that-way/)
I don't know how many non-citizens are voting, but my hunch is it's enough to require common sense measures like providing proof of citizenship to register.
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2017/jun/22/ainsley-earhardt/following-trump-voter-fraud-allegations-claim-57-m/
"Politifact" has zero credibility and that (outdated) piece demonstrates why. There are studies on both sides. The truth is likely somewhere in between.
You're really bringing up credibility when you posted an editorial from IBD as a source to help your point? Sure, the truth is likely somewhere in between, but it is much closer to 0 than it is to 5 million or even tens of thousands.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on June 24, 2017, 04:17:44 PM
Was Trump right? Another study says "probably."
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/did-votes-by-noncitizens-cost-trump-the-2016-popular-vote-sure-looks-that-way/ (http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/did-votes-by-noncitizens-cost-trump-the-2016-popular-vote-sure-looks-that-way/)
I don't know how many non-citizens are voting, but my hunch is it's enough to require common sense measures like providing proof of citizenship to register.
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2017/jun/22/ainsley-earhardt/following-trump-voter-fraud-allegations-claim-57-m/
"Politifact" has zero credibility and that (outdated) piece demonstrates why. There are studies on both sides. The truth is likely somewhere in between.
You're really bringing up credibility when you posted an editorial from IBD as a source to help your point? Sure, the truth is likely somewhere in between, but it is much closer to 0 than it is to 5 million or even tens of thousands.
Investors Business Daily? Yeah I'll take that over "Politifact" thanks. Here's a suggestion: maybe read the new study.
Post by: michigancat on June 24, 2017, 08:24:45 PM
Just popped into this thread for the first time in a month or so, and my word is dlew ever dunking on K-S-U-DubzMy favorite part was when K-S-U explained that voter fraud is a unique and especially difficult crime to prosecute because the perpetrators are trying to hide their crime.
Post by: ednksu on June 25, 2017, 11:40:58 PM
LOL you have to be a massive toolbag to think politifact has issues. I mean Kobach himself can't find these votes. Crazy how no one in red states can find these thousands and thousands of votes.Was Trump right? Another study says "probably."
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/did-votes-by-noncitizens-cost-trump-the-2016-popular-vote-sure-looks-that-way/ (http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/did-votes-by-noncitizens-cost-trump-the-2016-popular-vote-sure-looks-that-way/)
I don't know how many non-citizens are voting, but my hunch is it's enough to require common sense measures like providing proof of citizenship to register.
http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2017/jun/22/ainsley-earhardt/following-trump-voter-fraud-allegations-claim-57-m/
"Politifact" has zero credibility and that (outdated) piece demonstrates why. There are studies on both sides. The truth is likely somewhere in between.
You're really bringing up credibility when you posted an editorial from IBD as a source to help your point? Sure, the truth is likely somewhere in between, but it is much closer to 0 than it is to 5 million or even tens of thousands.
Investors Business Daily? Yeah I'll take that over "Politifact" thanks. Here's a suggestion: maybe read the new study.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 06, 2017, 09:24:37 AM
http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/see-samantha-bee-call-kris-kobach-a-racist-music-man-w495700
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 06, 2017, 04:55:21 PM
Something about legal requirements to maintain proper voting roles and such.
Details
Post by: star seed 7 on August 06, 2017, 05:06:56 PM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 06, 2017, 08:02:29 PM
please keep us updated on judicial watch dax, ty
Oh, I will McCainite lib7
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 06, 2017, 10:40:09 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 10, 2017, 08:29:29 PM
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/895702959509602304
Post by: mocat on August 11, 2017, 10:13:23 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 11, 2017, 12:41:33 PM
Post by: bucket on November 02, 2017, 09:27:31 PM
:runaway:
Post by: puniraptor on November 02, 2017, 10:58:54 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on April 24, 2018, 11:49:07 AM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 24, 2018, 08:30:14 PM
:zzz:
Post by: Cire on April 24, 2018, 09:25:31 PM
Sheeesh
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Post by: DQ12 on April 25, 2018, 08:13:34 AM
BREAKING: Secretary files wrong draft of pleading. :runaway:I'm sure it was an underling who screwed up the filing, but man. That's a nightmare.
:zzz:
Post by: Kat Kid on April 25, 2018, 05:23:19 PM
It is almost as if Kobach's office is completely incompetent.
Post by: star seed 7 on April 25, 2018, 05:58:14 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 25, 2018, 06:26:56 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 25, 2018, 08:59:41 PM
BREAKING: Secretary files wrong draft of pleading. :runaway:I'm sure it was an underling who screwed up the filing, but man. That's a nightmare.
:zzz:
It was corrected the same day per the date stamp. Which is pretty remarkable, bc I don't know why you'd go back to read something you already filed.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 25, 2018, 09:06:37 PM
go read through the reporting on the entire Kobach v ACLU contempt case and read the consistent mistakes Kobach and his team regularly made.
It is almost as if Kobach's office is completely incompetent.
Scouring a 500+ pleading docket for "mistakes" like that one, is reporting nobody should read.
How big of a dumbshit would you look like if some smarmy hipster tool shed proofread your emails and posted all the mistakes on twitter?
It's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!), it's not journalism, it's worthless anecdotal information deserving of no weight, and we are all above affording it any attention.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 25, 2018, 09:07:47 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on April 25, 2018, 09:17:05 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 25, 2018, 09:35:37 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on April 26, 2018, 08:13:22 AM
Post by: DQ12 on April 26, 2018, 08:22:06 AM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on April 26, 2018, 08:38:45 AM
I remember when Time magazine transcribed somebody's speech and marked it up like it was a paper written for an expos class, and thinking I'll never read this stupid rough ridin' magazine ever again because this is the dumbest, and most mindlessly trite, meaningless, and snotty, yet ignorant waste of ink and paper of I've ever seen, and the author should be shamed then fired.
wackycat post
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 26, 2018, 02:14:02 PM
having a giant parenthetical saying (MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T ARGUE THIS) is a little different than you're/your
But maybe not as bad as their/there/they're
Post by: bucket on May 31, 2018, 08:41:21 AM
:excited:
Post by: steve dave on May 31, 2018, 10:03:16 AM
Post by: sys on May 31, 2018, 10:31:18 AM
Post by: renocat on May 31, 2018, 01:56:55 PM
i kinda hope north korea blows us the eff up.Sys, speaking of things blowing up, Nugent sure ain't the drug induced skeleton he once was. Now he is a gun toting rock star who likes to razz up the techolibs. He evidently thinks old Roseanne is hunky dory to. KoBarf. Hillary had big stars perform for her campaign events. I am going to vote for a person who cares more about Kansas than a glory hound seeking the spotlight to advance his political career. You are not Bob Dole even though
Post by: bucket on June 02, 2018, 03:25:39 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on June 02, 2018, 04:17:18 PM
Post by: KST8FAN on June 02, 2018, 07:58:35 PM
http://fox4kc.com/2018/06/02/city-of-shawnee-apologizes-after-kris-kobach-rides-machine-gun-mounted-jeep-in-parade/
Tom
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 20, 2018, 04:25:22 PM
I'm sure this will end well.
Post by: sys on June 20, 2018, 04:30:29 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 20, 2018, 04:33:26 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on June 20, 2018, 05:10:43 PM
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/kobach-proof-of-citizenship-instructions
Post by: cfbandyman on June 20, 2018, 05:25:12 PM
Welp.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/kobach-proof-of-citizenship-instructions
beta cuck
Post by: CHONGS on June 20, 2018, 05:29:02 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 09, 2018, 01:11:50 PM
https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/steve-rose/article214474654.html
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on July 12, 2018, 01:38:22 PM
https://twitter.com/KrisKobach1787/status/1013136919767764999
Post by: sys on July 12, 2018, 02:01:31 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 12, 2018, 02:34:45 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on July 12, 2018, 02:37:54 PM
Post by: renocat on July 30, 2018, 12:31:50 AM
Kansas City TV station did a straw poll, and Collyer won.
Kobach is claiming voter fraud.
Dang, hordes of illegal aliens voting in a straw poll.
Corporal Kobach get in the jeep with Beetle and shoot them with your take gun.
Don't vote for stupid.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on July 30, 2018, 04:30:19 PM
Post by: bucket on August 01, 2018, 09:24:45 AM
Post by: michigancat on August 01, 2018, 09:46:43 AM
https://twitter.com/HunterMw/status/1024621584139595776Jesus what a piece of crap
Post by: mocat on August 01, 2018, 10:03:34 AM
Quote
Valley Park had hardly any immigrants to speak of at the time Kobach was called in. The town’s Hispanic population had ticked up from 2 percent of the population to around 3 percent in 2006. That amounted to an increase of about 50 people in a town of 7,000.
That was enough for the town’s then mayor, Jeff Whitteaker. He took to local media to fulminate about overcrowding. “You got one guy and his wife that settle down here, have a couple kids, and before long you have Cousin Puerto Rico and Taco Whoever moving in,” Whitteaker told the Riverfront Times.
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Former Valley Park Mayor Whitteaker said Kobach was “worth every penny.”
Others in town disagreed. Whitteaker was voted out of office in 2008, a year before the lawsuit was finalized, amid controversy over the city’s spending on this lawsuit.
He sees Valley Park as ahead of its time. “Where was Donald Trump 10 years ago?” Whitteaker said. “I think Valley Park was 10 years ahead of its time on that issue.”
Post by: renocat on August 01, 2018, 10:07:12 AM
He spent days going around the country writing this stuff for all sorts of government entities making freelance money. He sure wasn't in Kansas doing his job and earning his pay from Kansas. Sounds like Hillary.https://twitter.com/HunterMw/status/1024621584139595776Jesus what a piece of crap
Post by: sys on August 03, 2018, 08:07:19 PM
https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1025484852106223616
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 04, 2018, 09:04:30 AM
Post by: wetwillie on August 04, 2018, 11:35:10 AM
Post by: bucket on August 06, 2018, 11:07:29 AM
:excited:
Post by: CHONGS on August 06, 2018, 01:21:41 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 06, 2018, 01:51:31 PM
Post by: mocat on August 06, 2018, 02:16:10 PM
Post by: Spracne on August 06, 2018, 02:18:09 PM
Post by: bucket on August 06, 2018, 03:34:07 PM
Post by: mocat on August 06, 2018, 03:38:18 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 06, 2018, 03:41:16 PM
omg wgaf. journos are so petty and weird
Yeah, it's a very douchey field
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 06, 2018, 04:35:51 PM
https://twitter.com/johnbatten8/status/1026561018267402240
That’s a great tweet.
Post by: renocat on August 06, 2018, 04:37:56 PM
If you can't tell I am not voting for Kobach.. if he wins i will vote for a Democrat in the general.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 07, 2018, 09:50:12 PM
Post by: bucket on August 07, 2018, 09:53:02 PM
Is KK gonna do this?
:ohno:
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 07, 2018, 10:04:58 PM
Post by: sys on August 07, 2018, 10:07:47 PM
Post by: KST8FAN on August 07, 2018, 10:10:00 PM
At the end the machine alerted me that I had not viewed all candidates. Anyone else encounter this?
Tom
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Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 07, 2018, 10:14:51 PM
Post by: wetwillie on August 07, 2018, 10:18:27 PM
Post by: sys on August 07, 2018, 10:19:37 PM
Landslide was not the right word, but Colyer is gonna win by a wide margin than he currently has if JoCo hasn’t even started reporting today’s vote.
they have reported like 20k from joco, but i didn't realize how low ks primary turnout normally is. if 2014 is a decent baseline there aren't as many votes as i though left in 3 and 4. colyer looks like he's gonna win.
Post by: sys on August 07, 2018, 10:21:02 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 07, 2018, 10:25:22 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 07, 2018, 10:26:38 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 07, 2018, 10:30:04 PM
Fake Ron Estes got about as many votes as the mentally challenged man child the dems are running.
I was just gonna post about this. The Dems inserred a candidate named Ron M. Estes into the primary against Rep. Ron G. Estes. And the fraud got 20% of the vote at 8,339. Makes me wonder how many libs declares as pubs to do a little meddlin’.
Post by: wetwillie on August 07, 2018, 10:30:55 PM
Colyer is a pretty reliable conservative. Not nearly the firebrand that Kobach is, but hardly a RINO. He’ll have a much easier road to victory in the general than KK because most of the GOP vote, including most KK voters, will have no problem supporting him. With KK there was always the risk that the never-Trump faction would undercut him.
He seems like a solid enough dude from what I just read about him. Like Ben Sasse with less personality.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 07, 2018, 10:33:09 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 07, 2018, 10:34:24 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 07, 2018, 10:35:33 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 07, 2018, 10:36:58 PM
I thought Svaty would cruise to the dem nomination, instead they nominated some weirdo
Yup. I thought Svaty was the strongest candidate for the Dems. Weird choice.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 07, 2018, 10:37:47 PM
Fake Ron Estes got about as many votes as the mentally challenged man child the dems are running.
I was just gonna post about this. The Dems inserred a candidate named Ron M. Estes into the primary against Rep. Ron G. Estes. And the fraud got 20% of the vote at 8,339. Makes me wonder how many libs declares as pubs to do a little meddlin’.
Fake Ron has 13,000 votes
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 07, 2018, 10:38:32 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 07, 2018, 10:39:15 PM
Fake Ron Estes got about as many votes as the mentally challenged man child the dems are running.
I was just gonna post about this. The Dems inserred a candidate named Ron M. Estes into the primary against Rep. Ron G. Estes. And the fraud got 20% of the vote at 8,339. Makes me wonder how many libs declares as pubs to do a little meddlin’.
Fake Ron has 13,000 votes
Oh crap. I was only looking at Sedgwick Co.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 07, 2018, 10:43:29 PM
Post by: sys on August 07, 2018, 10:50:43 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 07, 2018, 10:53:42 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 07, 2018, 11:04:23 PM
joco is very stubbornly refusing to count their ballots.
Why? And where are you guys all watching these results (non-local news watching Kansans only plz)
Post by: sys on August 07, 2018, 11:05:37 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 07, 2018, 11:10:50 PM
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All votes have now been tabulated, secured, and delivered to the Election Office. We are, however, experiencing slow reporting times. We will post the next update shortly.
https://jocoelection.org (https://jocoelection.org)
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 07, 2018, 11:14:54 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 07, 2018, 11:29:18 PM
Post by: sys on August 07, 2018, 11:30:59 PM
Post by: sys on August 07, 2018, 11:36:40 PM
Ouch. Dems picked the socialist Welder to run against Yoder for the 3rd. Oops.
wasserman isn't sure this one is decided. let's see what it looks like when the jocos come in.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 07, 2018, 11:49:19 PM
Post by: sys on August 07, 2018, 11:51:01 PM
I think Kobach gon win, bros. Hope I’m wrong though, he is obviously a garbage human.
you're almost certainly wrong. unless ks has a bunch of absentees or provisionals that don't get counted until late.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 08, 2018, 12:00:12 AM
I think Kobach gon win, bros. Hope I’m wrong though, he is obviously a garbage human.
you're almost certainly wrong. unless ks has a bunch of absentees or provisionals that don't get counted until late.
would be tight
Post by: sys on August 08, 2018, 12:00:32 AM
Post by: DQ12 on August 08, 2018, 12:04:39 AM
NYT websitejoco is very stubbornly refusing to count their ballots.
Why? And where are you guys all watching these results (non-local news watching Kansans only plz)
Post by: sys on August 08, 2018, 12:04:50 AM
would be tight
yeah, but it's very hard to imagine colyer won't get more than net 800+ from joco. kobach might net another 100 or so in morris, but as far as i can tell, all of the rest of the remaining votes are in johnson (barring absentees/provisionals). and there should still be like 10-15k votes there.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 08, 2018, 12:23:50 AM
https://twitter.com/LynnHorsley/status/1027043622682812417
Thanks a lot, Vlad. I have to work tomorrow, you bad person.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 08, 2018, 07:16:15 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 08, 2018, 07:23:01 AM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 08, 2018, 07:41:25 AM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 08, 2018, 07:46:34 AM
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Post by: mocat on August 08, 2018, 07:49:22 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2018, 07:58:12 AM
Yes. YEEEEESSSSSS! :woot:
A few facts you might not know about Kobach:
1. He's smarter than every one of you dumbasses.
2. He makes liberals heads explode for being upset about things like "illegal" immigration and voter "fraud."
3. He's going to be our next governor and the Kansas liberals are gonna meltdown harder than when Trump won.
Grats bud
Post by: sys on August 08, 2018, 08:04:00 AM
5 observations.
1. davids caught welder. suck it, katkid.
2. yoder only got 68%. the general should be interesting.
3. those late joco votes didn't go colyer's way by much. the early joco votes was like colyer + 4000, the late jocos were like colyer +600.
4. there was a huge turnout in joco. way, way more than 2014. 20% of pub votes were from joco.
5. there's gonna be a recount.
Post by: sys on August 08, 2018, 08:11:27 AM
Post by: sys on August 08, 2018, 08:16:49 AM
https://twitter.com/BACaskey/status/1027180430540386304
Post by: wetwillie on August 08, 2018, 08:22:40 AM
Post by: mocat on August 08, 2018, 08:24:53 AM
Post by: wetwillie on August 08, 2018, 08:31:02 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 08, 2018, 08:32:19 AM
Would be amaze if somehow kobach loses because of 100 fraudulent votes or something
More likely he wins due to fraudulent voting.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2018, 08:40:06 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 08, 2018, 08:53:18 AM
100% of fraudulent votes go to democrats, dumbasses
No, Colyer won a straw poll due to voter fraud a few weeks ago.
Post by: mocat on August 08, 2018, 08:57:13 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2018, 09:01:57 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 08, 2018, 09:10:21 AM
Post by: CHONGS on August 08, 2018, 09:15:57 AM
Post by: sys on August 08, 2018, 09:31:19 AM
Post by: sys on August 08, 2018, 09:38:05 AM
so will all of the normal republicans just fall in line and vote for kobach in November?
with orman running, does it even matter?
Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2018, 09:41:00 AM
so will all of the normal republicans just fall in line and vote for kobach in November?
99% will. see Trump.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 08, 2018, 09:58:40 AM
Post by: DQ12 on August 08, 2018, 10:02:06 AM
Post by: IPA4Me on August 08, 2018, 10:02:39 AM
Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2018, 10:03:15 AM
At least Sam was EMAW AF.
yeah, I'd take an ugly AF EMAW AF awful human being as gov over a hot AF non-EMAW AF awful human being any day.
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 08, 2018, 10:06:52 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 08, 2018, 10:19:01 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 08, 2018, 10:24:59 AM
The more interesting news that isn't getting much coverage are the Kansas house races. In the past few elections, fiscal liberals have been quite successful at infiltrating GOP primaries to win seats as "moderates," and those votes have allowed things like last year's massive tax increase and the narrowly defeated effort to expand Medicaid. Last night, the House tacked slightly back to the right.
Dist 5: Moderate Mark Samsel replaced Conservative Kevin Jones, who did not run
Dist 8: Conservative Chris Croft ousted Moderate RINO Patty Markley
Dist 28: Conservative Kellie Warren ousted Moderate Joy Koesten
Dist 39: Conservative Owen Donohoe replaced Moderate Shelee Brim, who did not run
Dist 64: (???) Suzi Carlson replaced Moderate Susie Swanson, who did not run (but Suzi is quite vague about her fiscal policy)
Dist 74: Conservative Stephen Owens ousted Moderate Don Schroeder
Dist 75: Conservative Will Carpenter ousted Moderate Mary Martha Good
Dist 80: Conservative Bill Rhiley ousted Moderate Anita Judd-Jenkins
Dist 87: Conservative Renee Erickson replaced Moderate Roger Elliott, who did not run
Dist 93: Moderate J.C. Moore ousted Conservative John Whitmer
Dist 97: Moderate Nick Hoheisel replaced Conservative Les Osterman, who did not run
Dist 104: Conservative Paul Waggoner ousted Moderate Steven Becker (BY ONE VOTE! - this might not hold up after provisional ballots)
So, assuming seats don't flip in the general (and many of the races above don't even have a Dem in opposition), conservatives netted 4-6 seats last night.
Post by: 8manpick on August 08, 2018, 10:28:26 AM
All the attention is focusing on the contest between Kobach and Colyer, but there isn't that much difference politically. Kobach is definitely the conservative firebrand, but Colyer is pretty conservative himself. And Colyer would win the general in the landslide so either way, I'm pretty happy.
Yeah, there really doesn't seem to be much political difference. Sure, Kobach is a racist, dishonest, grifter who will be much more of a national embarrassment, but Colyer is super conservative.
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 08, 2018, 10:34:32 AM
Post by: renocat on August 08, 2018, 10:35:29 AM
Kobach is directly responsible for this. If screws up running a simple election, think about how he will run Kansas government. He will make Brownback look like a great governor.
How much more of our freedoms will be taken away in the name of thwarting phantom illegal alien herds infiltrating Kansas.
Likely, will have to swipe a Kobach card just to take a dump at a highway rest stop on I 70.
Elect someone with a brain instead of a square jawed GLDT.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2018, 10:36:30 AM
Lol’ing @ Kansas
Everyone is
Post by: Cartierfor3 on August 08, 2018, 10:38:35 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on August 08, 2018, 10:38:56 AM
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 08, 2018, 10:39:26 AM
Lol’ing @ Kansas
Everyone is
No crap
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2018, 10:40:34 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 08, 2018, 10:41:25 AM
https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/election/article216290855.html (https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/election/article216290855.html)
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Metsker said the new voting machines themselves worked well in terms of recording the voters’ choices and providing a backup paper audit trail.
The delay occurred, he said, in the process of uploading the data from the tabulated results for each of the 192 polling locations. Results are gathered from the polling locations onto a “master stick,” or thumb drive, he said, and the process broke down in uploading the results from the master stick to the reporting software.
“What should have taken seconds at first took minutes, and then minutes turned into half hours,” he said.
A spokeswoman for the vendor, Omaha, Neb.,-based Election Systems & Software, said results were physically transported to the Johnson County election office in a timely manner Tuesday night.
“The delay in reporting results is attributed to slow upload times of the election media (thumb drives). While the reporting is now complete (and the results secure at all times) the timeliness was slower than normal,” she said. “We will be working with the county to determine the cause of the delay so that it can be corrected before the next election.”
Read more here: https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/election/article216290855.html#storylink=cpy
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 08, 2018, 10:43:16 AM
Only thing more embarrassing than kobach would be running a pedophile for senate
I didn’t vote for the pedo LibBot7.
But nice deflection
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2018, 10:48:41 AM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 08, 2018, 10:53:05 AM
I think the demtards would be better served listening to somebody other than themselves, bc they're gonna get swept again.
#bluewave and abnormally high Republican voter turnout do not compute
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2018, 10:57:01 AM
This is all part of the extremely narrow trump base supporting an extremely unpopular candidate who has miraculously won everything he's ever ran for.
I think the demtards would be better served listening to somebody other than themselves, bc they're gonna get swept again.
#bluewave and abnormally high Republican voter turnout do not compute
Kobach will play all the KS rubes like a fiddle
Post by: sonofdaxjones on August 08, 2018, 11:00:07 AM
How is the dax proglib new new neocon Olathe white flight gated community family handling the kobach news? I love following their political hijinks.
They can still vote for their guy/lady dummy.
Post by: sys on August 08, 2018, 11:00:54 AM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 08, 2018, 11:01:24 AM
Well done, Democrats
Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2018, 11:29:32 AM
This is all part of the extremely narrow trump base supporting an extremely unpopular candidate who has miraculously won everything he's ever ran for.
I think the demtards would be better served listening to somebody other than themselves, bc they're gonna get swept again.
#bluewave and abnormally high Republican voter turnout do not computeKobach will play all the KS rubes like a fiddle
incred post by the best prognosticator on this blog, steve dave
Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2018, 11:34:31 AM
they will fall in line though
the trump candidacy thread is a great thing to revisit to see what some people on this board thought of MY president Donald Trump prior to him getting the GOP nod.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2018, 12:13:25 PM
here's another one from the Right Wing Soothsayer, steve davethey will fall in line though
the trump candidacy thread is a great thing to revisit to see what some people on this board thought of MY president Donald Trump prior to him getting the GOP nod.
Ah, 2015...
If the first debates even allow this guy on stage... :flush: So annoying.
Post by: mocat on August 08, 2018, 12:24:31 PM
Post by: 'taterblast on August 08, 2018, 12:24:49 PM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 08, 2018, 01:19:58 PM
Post by: mocat on August 08, 2018, 01:21:48 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 08, 2018, 01:28:30 PM
afaik colyer is just a regular guy and kobach is an evil piece of human garbage
Yeah, this is accurate.
Post by: wetwillie on August 08, 2018, 01:38:08 PM
Post by: CHONGS on August 08, 2018, 01:52:22 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 08, 2018, 02:01:19 PM
I thought Svaty would cruise to the dem nomination, instead they nominated some weirdo
Svaty is anti-choice and anti-women. Dems don't want that.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 08, 2018, 02:35:43 PM
Kazzer had to take two sabbaticals just to be able to stomach the pivot and come back at full strength
I want him back at full strength but I am afraid the insane amount of graft and the debt/insane size of the new government has crippled him
Post by: sys on August 08, 2018, 02:41:15 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 08, 2018, 02:45:30 PM
here's another one from the Right Wing Soothsayer, steve davethey will fall in line though
the trump candidacy thread is a great thing to revisit to see what some people on this board thought of MY president Donald Trump prior to him getting the GOP nod.
Ah, 2015...If the first debates even allow this guy on stage... :flush: So annoying.
Oh hell yes. I bet I've got some more gems lurking in there, too. I loathed Trump during the primary. Rubio was my guy. Then Cruz. Then the Trumpster demolished "Little Marco" and "Lyin' Ted" (man that crap pissed me off) I was like "well, eff...." Then he beat Hillary, appointed two stellar SC picks, cut taxes, grew the economy, took a tough stance on immigration, and made the liberals absolutely hysterical - all points in favor. So I've made my peace with him. Fair enough?
Why are we discussing this in a thread about Kobach?
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 08, 2018, 02:46:37 PM
This is all part of the extremely narrow trump base supporting an extremely unpopular candidate who has miraculously won everything he's ever ran for.
I think the demtards would be better served listening to somebody other than themselves, bc they're gonna get swept again.
#bluewave and abnormally high Republican voter turnout do not compute
If only he were as successful in court as he is at tricking Sedgwick county hayseeds
Post by: catastrophe on August 08, 2018, 02:48:45 PM
https://twitter.com/jonshorman/status/1027260488277737474
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“If the margin is less than 10 votes or something extraordinarily close, I would expect any person to call for a recount,” Kobach said. “A recount would take a significant amount of time to do a recount statewide. It also depends on what kind.”
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 08, 2018, 02:57:54 PM
Kobach/Colyer would have a decent chance of losing in the general election if Dems or Orman drop out. Unfortunately neither of them will, so votes will get split and Kobach/Colyer will continue to run this state into the ground.
LOL, the Republican primaries are the election. The Democrats were hopeless when they hand picked candidates, let alone conducted primaries.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 08, 2018, 02:59:30 PM
Kobach/Colyer would have a decent chance of losing in the general election if Dems or Orman drop out. Unfortunately neither of them will, so votes will get split and Kobach/Colyer will continue to run this state into the ground.
LOL, the Republican primaries are the election. The Democrats were hopeless when they hand picked candidates, let alone conducted primaries.
True. The state is now part of the dependent class, counting on handouts from washington
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 08, 2018, 03:42:36 PM
I suspect Orman will be an appealing option for the never-Trump faction of KS Pubs, but overall will probably hurt the Dems more.
I think Kobach’s greatest risk is how polarizing he is. It concerns me in a general election. But then again, I thought he’d get absolutely trounced in JoCo, and I thought a higher turnout would be bad for the most conservative candidate. But be did reasonably well in JoCo. And the higher turnout didn’t do him in.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 08, 2018, 03:45:00 PM
I don’t know much about Kelly/Rogers, but they don’t seem like very impressive campaigners. Low Energy?
I suspect Orman will be an appealing option for the never-Trump faction of KS Pubs, but overall will probably hurt the Dems more.
I think Kobach’s greatest risk is how polarizing he is. It concerns me in a general election. But then again, I thought he’d get absolutely trounced in JoCo, and I thought a higher turnout would be bad for the most conservative candidate. But be did reasonably well in JoCo. And the higher turnout didn’t do him in.
Quote from: steve dave on June 09, 2017, 01:52:05 PM
Kobach will play all the KS rubes like a fiddle
Post by: DQ12 on August 08, 2018, 03:45:57 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2018, 03:46:20 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 08, 2018, 03:47:28 PM
i'm not 100% kobach has this yet. provisional ballots could be interesting and 191 votes or whatever is nothing.
the dude has been held in contempt, he isn't losing this on something like a provisional ballot.
Post by: sys on August 08, 2018, 03:50:48 PM
https://twitter.com/CookPolitical/status/1027281154880286722
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 08, 2018, 05:12:51 PM
The #bluewave is peetering out (probs never existed) big time, SURPRISE bc nobody wants the vitriol, hate, negativity and outright insane crap the left is selling.
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2018, 06:02:27 PM
SURPRISE bc nobody wants the vitriol, hate, negativity and outright insane crap the left is selling.
What color is the sky where you are? I mean they do beat up on white supremacist and the like frequently.
Post by: mocat on August 08, 2018, 06:08:25 PM
SURPRISE bc nobody wants the vitriol, hate, negativity and outright insane crap the left is selling.
What color is the sky where you are?
FSD is probably white
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 08, 2018, 06:34:18 PM
SURPRISE bc nobody wants the vitriol, hate, negativity and outright insane crap the left is selling.
What color is the sky where you are? I mean they do beat up on white supremacist and the like frequently.
You best check your white privilege rape culture racism sexism, etc etc etc at the door! Socialism is the new capitalism
Post by: star seed 7 on August 08, 2018, 06:40:08 PM
Post by: steve dave on August 08, 2018, 07:30:57 PM
I thought trump was proof people love vitriol, hate, negativity, and insane crap? He even hooked kdub
It’s their absolute favorite thing
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Post by: sys on August 08, 2018, 08:29:10 PM
Post by: wetwillie on August 08, 2018, 08:42:23 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on August 08, 2018, 09:32:38 PM
I thought trump was proof people love vitriol, hate, negativity, and insane crap? He even hooked kdubNo... They like he is "real".
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 08, 2018, 09:33:45 PM
I thought trump was proof people love vitriol, hate, negativity, and insane crap? He even hooked kdubNo... They like he is "real".
And honest/truthful
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 08, 2018, 09:51:34 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 08, 2018, 11:08:29 PM
:lol:
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 08, 2018, 11:12:01 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 09, 2018, 07:26:12 AM
Post by: steve dave on August 09, 2018, 08:01:37 AM
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 09, 2018, 08:11:02 AM
https://twitter.com/normative/status/1027278317408452609
It's going to be great when Colyer pulls ahead and then every county has a recount at no cost to Kobach.
Post by: bucket on August 09, 2018, 08:14:08 AM
Next week?!
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 09, 2018, 08:16:25 AM
Post by: catastrophe on August 09, 2018, 09:08:30 AM
I am going to be disappointed if Kobach doesn’t pull this out because the media hysteria is already reaching epic golden levels. I’m seeing a lot of “experts say” articles. Those experts being poli-sci professors. And then there’s the editorials where they really let their hair down / pull it out. The KC Star is reading like a left wing blog.
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.dailykos.com%2Fimages%2F372173%2Fstory_image%2F1268.png%3F1488333613&hash=591d7f90e6603347eb0532983015ea618eb2344c)
Post by: chum1 on August 09, 2018, 09:27:10 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 09, 2018, 09:30:22 AM
Liberals think they're in on some joke about Trump, but they don't realize that they are the joke. Just like this cartoon. It's funny but not in the way the cartoonist intended.
Post by: catastrophe on August 09, 2018, 09:32:32 AM
Post by: Phil Titola on August 09, 2018, 09:33:36 AM
We laugh at you triggered libs plenty, but I assure you I don't know a single person who has modified their steak preferences to model Trump. Medium for me, please.Remember being triggered when a president wore a tan suit? I remember.
Liberals think they're in on some joke about Trump, but they don't realize that they are the joke. Just like this cartoon. It's funny but not in the way the cartoonist intended.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 09, 2018, 09:38:00 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 09, 2018, 09:41:56 AM
I am going to be disappointed if Kobach doesn’t pull this out because the media hysteria is already reaching epic golden levels. I’m seeing a lot of “experts say” articles. Those experts being poli-sci professors. And then there’s the editorials where they really let their hair down / pull it out. The KC Star is reading like a left wing blog.
Links?
Post by: wetwillie on August 09, 2018, 09:43:46 AM
https://twitter.com/marklevinshow/status/836345342417321984
Let’s have the discipline to maintain thread integrity rage
Post by: Kat Kid on August 09, 2018, 01:37:24 PM
https://twitter.com/Melissa_Brunner/status/1027623137398145025
Post by: mocat on August 09, 2018, 01:41:33 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on August 09, 2018, 01:44:19 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 09, 2018, 01:44:39 PM
Post by: wetwillie on August 09, 2018, 01:47:32 PM
I now want it to be like a 5 vote win for Colyer and for Kobach go full Captain Ahab on proving it was voter fraud
Yea this is best case scenario and needs to happen
Post by: steve dave on August 09, 2018, 01:54:56 PM
I now want it to be like a 5 vote win for Colyer and for Kobach go full Captain Ahab on proving it was voter fraud
this would be worth the price of admission
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 09, 2018, 01:58:24 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 09, 2018, 02:04:26 PM
Post by: Katpappy on August 09, 2018, 02:18:42 PM
Look at all these libs and fake centrists melting down, smdh get over it already your guy lost
"Kobach kicks ass!!! Kobach kicks ass!! Kobach kicks ass!" Media and libs, "Boy, my ass hurts!". :ROFL:
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 09, 2018, 03:12:49 PM
We laugh at you triggered libs plenty, but I assure you I don't know a single person who has modified their steak preferences to model Trump. Medium for me, please.
Liberals think they're in on some joke about Trump, but they don't realize that they are the joke. Just like this cartoon. It's funny but not in the way the cartoonist intended.
This is true. They are completely delusional and reality keeps kicking them in the face.
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 09, 2018, 04:08:52 PM
Post by: sys on August 09, 2018, 04:19:45 PM
https://twitter.com/geoffreyvs/status/1027594478910144516
Post by: catastrophe on August 09, 2018, 04:30:08 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 09, 2018, 04:37:08 PM
Post by: steve dave on August 09, 2018, 04:54:35 PM
would be funny for colyer to win by like 12 since kobach already said something about only needing to recount in a really close race that was like 10 votes apart.
another prospect I am here for
Post by: star seed 7 on August 09, 2018, 06:03:13 PM
Post by: renocat on August 09, 2018, 06:19:45 PM
Post by: chum1 on August 09, 2018, 07:06:33 PM
https://twitter.com/alexburnsNYT/status/1027692793349787648
Post by: wetwillie on August 09, 2018, 07:07:38 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 09, 2018, 07:11:20 PM
Post by: wetwillie on August 09, 2018, 07:19:27 PM
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Colyer’s campaign spokesman, Kendall Marr, explained in a phone call that the campaign has heard that Kobach’s office has told county clerks to disregard ballots with a smudged postmark. Marr said that ballots received before a Friday deadline need to be counted.
Post by: sys on August 09, 2018, 07:20:39 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 09, 2018, 07:21:47 PM
Post by: bucket on August 09, 2018, 07:25:01 PM
Post by: catastrophe on August 09, 2018, 07:26:30 PM
Post by: sys on August 09, 2018, 07:26:50 PM
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In one more development Thursday, Kobach suggested in a statement to The Star that noncitizens could have voted in the primary election.
https://www.kansascity.com/latest-news/article216397410.html#storylink=cpy
Post by: wetwillie on August 09, 2018, 07:29:41 PM
Post by: catastrophe on August 09, 2018, 07:54:19 PM
Post by: catastrophe on August 09, 2018, 09:03:00 PM
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Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach says he will remove himself from the further counting of votes in his tight Republican primary race with Gov. Jeff Colyer.
But he said Thursday night that the move will be “symbolic,” adding that counties do the work of counting ballots.
Kobach leads Colyer by 121 votes, a minuscule number compared with the 311,000 ballots cast in Tuesday’s election. County officials have yet to count some ballots.
Colyer demanded Thursday that Kobach stop advising county election officials.
Kobach told host Lou Dobbs on his Fox Business show that he would consider removing himself to make Colyer “feel good.”
Later, facing questions from CNN host Chris Cuomo, Kobach said Colyer wants him to remove from further counting, “So I will.”
Good for him, but my word. I'm not sure he could done it in a more childish way. All you have to say is "to remove any appearance of impropriety" blah blah blah.
Post by: steve dave on August 09, 2018, 09:12:42 PM
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Post by: DaBigTrain on August 09, 2018, 09:31:52 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 09, 2018, 09:50:33 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 09, 2018, 10:43:09 PM
This is all part of the extremely narrow trump base supporting an extremely unpopular candidate who has miraculously won everything he's ever ran for.
pls no one tell fsd about 2000 and 2004 (https://ballotpedia.org/Kris_Kobach#State_Senate_and_U.S._House_campaigns_.282000.2C_2004.29) :frown:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 10, 2018, 12:07:20 AM
How soon until he can charge Colyer $10,000,000 for a recount?
Not so fast. Colyer can still win the first count. At that point, Kobach would charge himself nothing for the recount and the state would pay for it.
Post by: DQ12 on August 10, 2018, 11:19:24 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 10, 2018, 11:29:12 AM
Post by: wetwillie on August 10, 2018, 11:31:30 AM
Post by: WildcatNkilt on August 10, 2018, 11:41:00 AM
Is the potential that a legal battle over the primary could last long enough to bleed into the general?
They are definitely losing general campaign time. May not matter, though.
Post by: catastrophe on August 10, 2018, 11:56:33 AM
Post by: chum1 on August 10, 2018, 11:57:25 AM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 10, 2018, 01:00:41 PM
When he doesn't do what they said he might do, they just make something else up he might do and move along slandering him.
And the libtards itt are just beside themselves with anxietyand vitriol.
It's so rough ridin' crazy it's hilarious :lol:
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 10, 2018, 01:01:46 PM
The November ballot can just say, "whoever eventually wins the Republican nomination," and everyone will happily cast their vote for that yet to be identified person.
Or
Colyer/Kobach
v.
NYC Carpet Bagger who is actually insane
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 10, 2018, 01:07:35 PM
Love, LOVE all the press about what Kobach might do and why he's such a pos if he does it?
When he doesn't do what they said he might do, they just make something else up he might do and move along slandering him.
And the libtards itt are just beside themselves with anxietyand vitriol.
It's so rough ridin' crazy it's hilarious :lol:
His past actions make him a pos, regardless of what his future shitty actions may or may not be.
Post by: DQ12 on August 10, 2018, 01:35:46 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on August 10, 2018, 01:55:57 PM
Post by: wetwillie on August 10, 2018, 02:13:06 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 10, 2018, 02:21:30 PM
This guy can't handle administration of voting and you want him to be governor? Lol
It's Kansas...
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 10, 2018, 03:03:25 PM
Post by: mocat on August 10, 2018, 04:20:18 PM
I want to hear why Laura Kelly is so great!
she has not gone out of her way to be a piece of evil human garbage
Post by: Woogy on August 10, 2018, 04:56:48 PM
I want to hear why Laura Kelly is so great!
She's lives west of Lawrence? :dunno:
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 10, 2018, 06:29:21 PM
Love, LOVE all the press about what Kobach might do and why he's such a pos if he does it?
When he doesn't do what they said he might do, they just make something else up he might do and move along slandering him.
And the libtards itt are just beside themselves with anxietyand vitriol.
It's so rough ridin' crazy it's hilarious :lol:
They’re hysterical. And probably the funniest thing is that Colyer is basically just as conservative as KK.
“I can’t believe he’s not gonna recuse himself!” [Hands off his “duties” to a deputy.] “Oh well fine but he was childish about it.”
It was a close vote. Now they’re recanvassing, correcting tallies, and counting mail-ins and provisions. KK of Colyer will be ahead after that. Most pubs will vote for the winner. It’s pretty simple.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 10, 2018, 06:31:17 PM
Nontard: "Okay, tell us what you know about the dem candidate you support?"
Libtard: :crickets: :confused: :curse:
:lol:
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 10, 2018, 06:32:29 PM
Love, LOVE all the press about what Kobach might do and why he's such a pos if he does it?
When he doesn't do what they said he might do, they just make something else up he might do and move along slandering him.
And the libtards itt are just beside themselves with anxietyand vitriol.
It's so rough ridin' crazy it's hilarious :lol:
They’re hysterical. And probably the funniest thing is that Colyer is basically just as conservative as KK.
“I can’t believe he’s not gonna recuse himself!” [Hands off his “duties” to a deputy.] “Oh well fine but he was childish about it.”
It was a close vote. Now they’re recanvassing, correcting tallies, and counting mail-ins and provisions. KK of Colyer will be ahead after that. Most pubs will vote for the winner. It’s pretty simple.
Create fake controversy, controversy predictably never unfolds, create new fake controversy :rinserepeat:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 10, 2018, 06:45:16 PM
Love, LOVE all the press about what Kobach might do and why he's such a pos if he does it?
When he doesn't do what they said he might do, they just make something else up he might do and move along slandering him.
And the libtards itt are just beside themselves with anxietyand vitriol.
It's so rough ridin' crazy it's hilarious :lol:
They’re hysterical. And probably the funniest thing is that Colyer is basically just as conservative as KK.
“I can’t believe he’s not gonna recuse himself!” [Hands off his “duties” to a deputy.] “Oh well fine but he was childish about it.”
It was a close vote. Now they’re recanvassing, correcting tallies, and counting mail-ins and provisions. KK of Colyer will be ahead after that. Most pubs will vote for the winner. It’s pretty simple.
I don’t see what Colyer’s level of conservatism has to do with him being seen as a decent human being and Kobach being seen as the human piece of garbage that he is.
Post by: catastrophe on August 10, 2018, 07:56:43 PM
Post by: mocat on August 10, 2018, 08:04:29 PM
To Trump supporters, you are either a trump republican or you are a libtard. Only libtards talk about character.
To be fair to kazzu, he calls people critical of trump "liberals"
Post by: steve dave on August 11, 2018, 06:52:49 AM
To Trump supporters, you are either a trump republican or you are a libtard. Only libtards talk about character.
To be fair to kazzu, he calls people critical of trump "liberals"
Dax calls me a fake centrist :sad:
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 11, 2018, 08:12:54 AM
To Trump supporters, you are either a trump republican or you are a libtard. Only libtards talk about character.
Lol, no they don't. They gaf about character. They just accuse everyone who disagrees with them a racist, or misogynist, or bigot, or garbage human being. They're children.
Post by: Phil Titola on August 11, 2018, 08:14:35 AM
To Trump supporters, you are either a trump republican or you are a libtard. Only libtards talk about character.
Lol, no they don't. They gaf about character. They just accuse everyone who disagrees with them a racist, or misogynist, or bigot, or garbage human being. They're children.
What are republicans who don't want Trump there due to you know, him being a dolt? Many here are that.
Post by: gatoveintisiete on August 11, 2018, 08:29:21 AM
To Trump supporters, you are either a trump republican or you are a libtard. Only libtards talk about character.
Lol, no they don't. They gaf about character. They just accuse everyone who disagrees with them a racist, or misogynist, or bigot, or garbage human being. They're children.
What are republicans who don't want Trump there due to you know, him being a dolt? Many here are that.
People who don’t understand they are a tourist in a 3 card Monty game
Post by: mocat on August 11, 2018, 08:31:33 AM
Post by: steve dave on August 11, 2018, 08:40:48 AM
If you don't swallow the whole trump package, YOU'RE the dolt!
most got in line as directed, just as soothsayer dave foretold
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 11, 2018, 08:51:51 AM
You act like Mitt Romney is sitting behind door #2.
Post by: Phil Titola on August 11, 2018, 08:58:24 AM
I mean, the choice is trump or whatever lunatic stupid crap the dems are pushing right now. Not exactly a difficult choice for a non lunatic non idiot.
You act like Mitt Romney is sitting behind door #2.
No way even the stanchest Trump supporter can say this with a straight face.
Post by: wetwillie on August 11, 2018, 08:58:59 AM
I mean, the choice is trump or whatever lunatic stupid crap the dems are pushing right now. Not exactly a difficult choice for a non lunatic non idiot.
You act like Mitt Romney is sitting behind door #2.
If you don’t want to talk about Kobach feel free to post your mindless drivel in one of the 100 Trump threads on the board.
Post by: gatoveintisiet on August 11, 2018, 09:02:32 AM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 11, 2018, 01:24:17 PM
I mean, the choice is trump or whatever lunatic stupid crap the dems are pushing right now. Not exactly a difficult choice for a non lunatic non idiot.
You act like Mitt Romney is sitting behind door #2.
If you don’t want to talk about Kobach feel free to post your mindless drivel in one of the 100 Trump threads on the board.
Mindless drivel ?!?!? :curse:
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 12, 2018, 08:41:29 AM
The most provisional ballots are in Sedgwick County, followed closely by Johnson. Together, they account for over 40% of the provisionals. However, while we know the total number of provisional ballots cast (about 9,000?) we have no idea how many of those were cast in the GOP primary. The provisionals cast in the Dem primary obviously don’t matter at all. But they won’t know that until after they unseal the ballot, which doesn’t happen until after they determine if the ballot can be cast. So there’s a likelihood that perhaps 50% or more of the provisionals don’t even matter.
However, it also seems that anecdotally some provisional ballots may have been cast by Democrats or unafiliated liberals wanting to cast votes for Colyer in the GOP primary but who had not changed their party affiliation to Republican. So to the extent those votes are ultimately counted, Colyer has to like his chances.
My personal suspicion is that Colyer gets enough of a boost from the provisionals to erase his 110 vote deficit.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 12, 2018, 10:09:50 AM
Lots of interesting info on the state of play for provisional ballots in this article today. https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article216446680.html (https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article216446680.html)
The most provisional ballots are in Sedgwick County, followed closely by Johnson. Together, they account for over 40% of the provisionals. However, while we know the total number of provisional ballots cast (about 9,000?) we have no idea how many of those were cast in the GOP primary. The provisionals cast in the Dem primary obviously don’t matter at all. But they won’t know that until after they unseal the ballot, which doesn’t happen until after they determine if the ballot can be cast. So there’s a likelihood that perhaps 50% or more of the provisionals don’t even matter.
However, it also seems that anecdotally some provisional ballots may have been cast by Democrats or unafiliated liberals wanting to cast votes for Colyer in the GOP primary but who had not changed their party affiliation to Republican. So to the extent those votes are ultimately counted, Colyer has to like his chances.
My personal suspicion is that Colyer gets enough of a boost from the provisionals to erase his 110 vote deficit.
KazzuDubz, how do you predict Kobach will react if that happens?
Post by: sys on August 12, 2018, 10:27:09 AM
Lots of interesting info on the state of play for provisional ballots in this article today. https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article216446680.html (https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article216446680.html)
The most provisional ballots are in Sedgwick County, followed closely by Johnson. Together, they account for over 40% of the provisionals. However, while we know the total number of provisional ballots cast (about 9,000?) we have no idea how many of those were cast in the GOP primary. The provisionals cast in the Dem primary obviously don’t matter at all. But they won’t know that until after they unseal the ballot, which doesn’t happen until after they determine if the ballot can be cast. So there’s a likelihood that perhaps 50% or more of the provisionals don’t even matter.
However, it also seems that anecdotally some provisional ballots may have been cast by Democrats or unafiliated liberals wanting to cast votes for Colyer in the GOP primary but who had not changed their party affiliation to Republican. So to the extent those votes are ultimately counted, Colyer has to like his chances.
My personal suspicion is that Colyer gets enough of a boost from the provisionals to erase his 110 vote deficit.
so 9k ballots, if we assume per the article that 2/3 are valid, that's 6k. overall, the dem/pub split was about 30/70, so call it 2/3 again and there are about 4k votes still coming. maybe 1500 of those from johnson and sedgwick.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 12, 2018, 10:45:09 AM
Lots of interesting info on the state of play for provisional ballots in this article today. https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article216446680.html (https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article216446680.html)
The most provisional ballots are in Sedgwick County, followed closely by Johnson. Together, they account for over 40% of the provisionals. However, while we know the total number of provisional ballots cast (about 9,000?) we have no idea how many of those were cast in the GOP primary. The provisionals cast in the Dem primary obviously don’t matter at all. But they won’t know that until after they unseal the ballot, which doesn’t happen until after they determine if the ballot can be cast. So there’s a likelihood that perhaps 50% or more of the provisionals don’t even matter.
However, it also seems that anecdotally some provisional ballots may have been cast by Democrats or unafiliated liberals wanting to cast votes for Colyer in the GOP primary but who had not changed their party affiliation to Republican. So to the extent those votes are ultimately counted, Colyer has to like his chances.
My personal suspicion is that Colyer gets enough of a boost from the provisionals to erase his 110 vote deficit.
so 9k ballots, if we assume per the article that 2/3 are valid, that's 6k. overall, the dem/pub split was about 30/70, so call it 2/3 again and there are about 4k votes still coming. maybe 1500 of those from johnson and sedgwick.
Except that I’m not sure you can assume that the provisionals will split 30/70 Dem/Pub. Provisionals generally skew Dem because Dem voters are more prone to not following the rules (showing up without an ID, showing up at wrong polling place, forgetting to update address, etc.). So half or more the provisionals may be in the Dem primary and meaningless.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 12, 2018, 10:54:13 AM
Lots of interesting info on the state of play for provisional ballots in this article today. https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article216446680.html (https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article216446680.html)
The most provisional ballots are in Sedgwick County, followed closely by Johnson. Together, they account for over 40% of the provisionals. However, while we know the total number of provisional ballots cast (about 9,000?) we have no idea how many of those were cast in the GOP primary. The provisionals cast in the Dem primary obviously don’t matter at all. But they won’t know that until after they unseal the ballot, which doesn’t happen until after they determine if the ballot can be cast. So there’s a likelihood that perhaps 50% or more of the provisionals don’t even matter.
However, it also seems that anecdotally some provisional ballots may have been cast by Democrats or unafiliated liberals wanting to cast votes for Colyer in the GOP primary but who had not changed their party affiliation to Republican. So to the extent those votes are ultimately counted, Colyer has to like his chances.
My personal suspicion is that Colyer gets enough of a boost from the provisionals to erase his 110 vote deficit.
KazzuDubz, how do you predict Kobach will react if that happens?
If the margin is within a few hundred, I think a lawsuit is possible. Most of this is cut and dry but there are a few sticky issues that invite a lawsuit if the margin is super close.
First, you have the counting of mailed ballots. State law requires the ballots to be postmarked by Election Day. If the postmark is illegible or the PO effed up, there’s a possibility that some valid ballots won’t be counted, but the counties need that postmark to comply with the law.
Second, a bigger problem are the unaffiliated libs who showed up to vote Colyer. The law requires you to declare a party before voting. Sounds simple. But if the poll workers misinformed unaffiliated voters to just vote provisionally, that’s a problem. It’ll be almost impossible to prove that, however.
So the counting of these ballots should be clear in most cases, but will be unclear in some cases, which invites a suit by either party if the margin is close enough. Whether that suit is brought before or after a recount is another issue. M
Here’s what they should do: Count every provisional and mailed ballot that is indisputabley valid and update the totals. Then allow for a recount of those tabulated votes. Then appoint a special master to open the remainder of the ballots that were set aside as disputed and see if counting those would impact the final result. It would be foolish to waste time and money litigating an issue that won’t effect the final outcome.
Post by: sys on August 12, 2018, 10:57:37 AM
Except that I’m not sure you can assume that the provisionals will split 30/70 Dem/Pub. Provisionals generally skew Dem.
i don't think it will skew that much, but even if you assume 50:50, that's 3k instead of 4k. different, but not hugely so. we have a pretty good idea of how many votes are incoming.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 13, 2018, 09:20:02 AM
Paul Waggoner, a fiscal conservative, challenged State Rep Steven Becker for the 104th District. Becker is socially and fiscally liberal and a fraud Republican, but he has eked out the past few election cycles.
On election night, Waggoner at first thought he had prevailed by 37 votes. But later that evening, when county staff realized they had failed to upload results from two advance voting sites, Waggoner's lead shrank to one single vote. 2,014 to 2,013.
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“Are you serious? Are you serious?” Waggoner asked when The News reached him around 11 p.m. with the new numbers and the one-ballot difference.
“Oh, this is fun. Wow. That is something,” he said.
This past Friday, after counting all mail-in ballots, Waggoner's lead grew to a much safer 5 votes.
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“That’s a fairly strong break. I’m just very pleased,” Waggoner said Friday afternoon. “A five-point margin is much more comfortable.”
:lol: this guy is adorable!
There are still 65 provisional ballots to be reviewed, but Waggoner is confident.
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Considering that about half of them will be deemed ineligible to be counted, Waggoner said, that reduces the number of outstanding ballots in the 104th to about 30, he estimated. “They would have to break pretty strongly for Becker,” said Waggoner, to overcome the five-vote margin.
http://www.hutchnews.com/news/20180810/update-kobach-waggoner-gain-in-reno-county-vote-count (http://www.hutchnews.com/news/20180810/update-kobach-waggoner-gain-in-reno-county-vote-count)
Post by: catastrophe on August 13, 2018, 09:29:53 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 13, 2018, 09:50:12 AM
Man that guy is bad with numbers.
"fiscal conservative"
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 13, 2018, 10:25:37 AM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 13, 2018, 10:49:36 AM
Lots of interesting info on the state of play for provisional ballots in this article today. https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article216446680.html (https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article216446680.html)
The most provisional ballots are in Sedgwick County, followed closely by Johnson. Together, they account for over 40% of the provisionals. However, while we know the total number of provisional ballots cast (about 9,000?) we have no idea how many of those were cast in the GOP primary. The provisionals cast in the Dem primary obviously don’t matter at all. But they won’t know that until after they unseal the ballot, which doesn’t happen until after they determine if the ballot can be cast. So there’s a likelihood that perhaps 50% or more of the provisionals don’t even matter.
However, it also seems that anecdotally some provisional ballots may have been cast by Democrats or unafiliated liberals wanting to cast votes for Colyer in the GOP primary but who had not changed their party affiliation to Republican. So to the extent those votes are ultimately counted, Colyer has to like his chances.
My personal suspicion is that Colyer gets enough of a boost from the provisionals to erase his 110 vote deficit.
KazzuDubz, how do you predict Kobach will react if that happens?
If the margin is within a few hundred, I think a lawsuit is possible. Most of this is cut and dry but there are a few sticky issues that invite a lawsuit if the margin is super close.
First, you have the counting of mailed ballots. State law requires the ballots to be postmarked by Election Day. If the postmark is illegible or the PO effed up, there’s a possibility that some valid ballots won’t be counted, but the counties need that postmark to comply with the law.
Second, a bigger problem are the unaffiliated libs who showed up to vote Colyer. The law requires you to declare a party before voting. Sounds simple. But if the poll workers misinformed unaffiliated voters to just vote provisionally, that’s a problem. It’ll be almost impossible to prove that, however.
So the counting of these ballots should be clear in most cases, but will be unclear in some cases, which invites a suit by either party if the margin is close enough. Whether that suit is brought before or after a recount is another issue. M
Here’s what they should do: Count every provisional and mailed ballot that is indisputabley valid and update the totals. Then allow for a recount of those tabulated votes. Then appoint a special master to open the remainder of the ballots that were set aside as disputed and see if counting those would impact the final result. It would be foolish to waste time and money litigating an issue that won’t effect the final outcome.
who decides what is "indisputabley [sic] valid"?
Post by: ChiComCat on August 13, 2018, 11:00:29 AM
So when are the gubernatorial mail ins counted? When will we know who’s suing whom?
From what I saw, the deadline is a week from today. So Monday or Tuesday of next week should give us the initial winner, pending lawsuits.
Post by: chum1 on August 13, 2018, 11:25:17 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 13, 2018, 01:25:04 PM
Lots of interesting info on the state of play for provisional ballots in this article today. https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article216446680.html (https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article216446680.html)
The most provisional ballots are in Sedgwick County, followed closely by Johnson. Together, they account for over 40% of the provisionals. However, while we know the total number of provisional ballots cast (about 9,000?) we have no idea how many of those were cast in the GOP primary. The provisionals cast in the Dem primary obviously don’t matter at all. But they won’t know that until after they unseal the ballot, which doesn’t happen until after they determine if the ballot can be cast. So there’s a likelihood that perhaps 50% or more of the provisionals don’t even matter.
However, it also seems that anecdotally some provisional ballots may have been cast by Democrats or unafiliated liberals wanting to cast votes for Colyer in the GOP primary but who had not changed their party affiliation to Republican. So to the extent those votes are ultimately counted, Colyer has to like his chances.
My personal suspicion is that Colyer gets enough of a boost from the provisionals to erase his 110 vote deficit.
KazzuDubz, how do you predict Kobach will react if that happens?
If the margin is within a few hundred, I think a lawsuit is possible. Most of this is cut and dry but there are a few sticky issues that invite a lawsuit if the margin is super close.
First, you have the counting of mailed ballots. State law requires the ballots to be postmarked by Election Day. If the postmark is illegible or the PO effed up, there’s a possibility that some valid ballots won’t be counted, but the counties need that postmark to comply with the law.
Second, a bigger problem are the unaffiliated libs who showed up to vote Colyer. The law requires you to declare a party before voting. Sounds simple. But if the poll workers misinformed unaffiliated voters to just vote provisionally, that’s a problem. It’ll be almost impossible to prove that, however.
So the counting of these ballots should be clear in most cases, but will be unclear in some cases, which invites a suit by either party if the margin is close enough. Whether that suit is brought before or after a recount is another issue. M
Here’s what they should do: Count every provisional and mailed ballot that is indisputabley valid and update the totals. Then allow for a recount of those tabulated votes. Then appoint a special master to open the remainder of the ballots that were set aside as disputed and see if counting those would impact the final result. It would be foolish to waste time and money litigating an issue that won’t effect the final outcome.
who decides what is "indisputabley [sic] valid"?
The SOS and the Governor. They’re going to agree on some. Not on others. As I said above, and this article now confirms, the key dispute is going to be the unaffiliated voters (most of whom being libs who showed up to vote against KK by voting for Colyer) but who allege they were told to cast ballots provisionally instead of filling out the paperwork to register GOP. Proving that will be extremely murky. So set these aside until the end, count the stuff that isn’t in dispute, and then hand the rest over to a court-appointed special master to open and decide whether it’s even worth fighting over.
https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article216584870.html (https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article216584870.html)
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 13, 2018, 01:37:50 PM
Including this nugget:
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One voter died after casting a ballot, which prompted the election office to recommend the vote be treated as invalid.
“We only had one of those. Thank God,” Metsker told the commissioners.
Sedgwick’s finished, too. https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/election/article216602730.html (https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/election/article216602730.html)
We’ll know a lot more about the state of the race tomorrow at 4pm! :woot:
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 13, 2018, 01:47:07 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 13, 2018, 01:47:58 PM
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on August 13, 2018, 01:52:26 PM
Lots of interesting info on the state of play for provisional ballots in this article today. https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article216446680.html (https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article216446680.html)
The most provisional ballots are in Sedgwick County, followed closely by Johnson. Together, they account for over 40% of the provisionals. However, while we know the total number of provisional ballots cast (about 9,000?) we have no idea how many of those were cast in the GOP primary. The provisionals cast in the Dem primary obviously don’t matter at all. But they won’t know that until after they unseal the ballot, which doesn’t happen until after they determine if the ballot can be cast. So there’s a likelihood that perhaps 50% or more of the provisionals don’t even matter.
However, it also seems that anecdotally some provisional ballots may have been cast by Democrats or unafiliated liberals wanting to cast votes for Colyer in the GOP primary but who had not changed their party affiliation to Republican. So to the extent those votes are ultimately counted, Colyer has to like his chances.
My personal suspicion is that Colyer gets enough of a boost from the provisionals to erase his 110 vote deficit.
KazzuDubz, how do you predict Kobach will react if that happens?
If the margin is within a few hundred, I think a lawsuit is possible. Most of this is cut and dry but there are a few sticky issues that invite a lawsuit if the margin is super close.
First, you have the counting of mailed ballots. State law requires the ballots to be postmarked by Election Day. If the postmark is illegible or the PO effed up, there’s a possibility that some valid ballots won’t be counted, but the counties need that postmark to comply with the law.
Second, a bigger problem are the unaffiliated libs who showed up to vote Colyer. The law requires you to declare a party before voting. Sounds simple. But if the poll workers misinformed unaffiliated voters to just vote provisionally, that’s a problem. It’ll be almost impossible to prove that, however.
So the counting of these ballots should be clear in most cases, but will be unclear in some cases, which invites a suit by either party if the margin is close enough. Whether that suit is brought before or after a recount is another issue. M
Here’s what they should do: Count every provisional and mailed ballot that is indisputabley valid and update the totals. Then allow for a recount of those tabulated votes. Then appoint a special master to open the remainder of the ballots that were set aside as disputed and see if counting those would impact the final result. It would be foolish to waste time and money litigating an issue that won’t effect the final outcome.
who decides what is "indisputabley [sic] valid"?
The SOS and the Governor. They’re going to agree on some. Not on others. As I said above, and this article now confirms, the key dispute is going to be the unaffiliated voters (most of whom being libs who showed up to vote against KK by voting for Colyer) but who allege they were told to cast ballots provisionally instead of filling out the paperwork to register GOP. Proving that will be extremely murky. So set these aside until the end, count the stuff that isn’t in dispute, and then hand the rest over to a court-appointed special master to open and decide whether it’s even worth fighting over.
https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article216584870.html (https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article216584870.html)
i'm lost. how do the SOS and the Governor decide this together and how do we know that most of the unaffiliated voters were libs voting against kk?
Post by: star seed 7 on August 13, 2018, 02:01:19 PM
Post by: sys on August 13, 2018, 02:13:00 PM
Sounds like JoCo is finished with ruling on provisionals and we’ll get the results tomorrow afternoon. Lots of good info in this article. https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/election/article216489915.html (https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/election/article216489915.html)
Sedgwick’s finished, too. https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/election/article216602730.html (https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/election/article216602730.html)
so that sounds like 2800 votes incoming from johnson and sedgwick. that should be both dem and pub votes if i understand those articles correctly. even so, that seems to running on the higher side of my estimate of 4k pub votes remaining, suggesting fewer ballots were eliminated.
Post by: DQ12 on August 13, 2018, 02:15:19 PM
Post by: sys on August 13, 2018, 02:19:53 PM
What is the rationale behind throwing out a vote because the voter later died?
yeah, i don't get that either.
also, you'd think that there would be state-wide guidance on whether the ballots of voters who failed to declare a party would be counted rather than each county deciding independently.
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 13, 2018, 02:25:14 PM
What is the rationale behind throwing out a vote because the voter later died?
Did he die before or after election day?
Post by: sys on August 13, 2018, 02:53:19 PM
Post by: Phil Titola on August 13, 2018, 02:58:55 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 13, 2018, 03:01:05 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 13, 2018, 03:02:28 PM
I don't think anybody who is going to die over the term of whatever they voted for should count.
The article doesn't explain why the dead person's provisional vote didn't count, but I presume it had something to do with not being able to get necessary followup info on that vote to authenticate it.
Post by: cfbandyman on August 13, 2018, 03:52:19 PM
I don't think anybody who is going to die over the term of whatever they voted for should count.
The article doesn't explain why the dead person's provisional vote didn't count, but I presume it had something to do with not being able to get necessary followup info on that vote to authenticate it.
This is why election receipts should be a thing and like the only real thing needed.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 13, 2018, 04:14:53 PM
http://www.kcur.org/post/kansas-statewide-primary-election-results-2018#stream/0 (http://www.kcur.org/post/kansas-statewide-primary-election-results-2018#stream/0)
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 13, 2018, 08:39:28 PM
Post by: Mrs. Gooch on August 13, 2018, 08:41:24 PM
I don't think anybody who is going to die over the term of whatever they voted for should count.
The article doesn't explain why the dead person's provisional vote didn't count, but I presume it had something to do with not being able to get necessary followup info on that vote to authenticate it.
This is why election receipts should be a thing and like the only real thing needed.
Well you get a sticker.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 14, 2018, 09:14:42 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 14, 2018, 10:43:23 AM
https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/election/article216653870.html (https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/election/article216653870.html)
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 14, 2018, 10:45:33 AM
SG will definitely go full yokel
Post by: DQ12 on August 14, 2018, 10:48:36 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 14, 2018, 11:01:00 AM
Of the 1,326 provisionals counted, only 661 were for the GOP. 665 were for the Dems. So even though roughly 70% of the vote in Sedgwick was in the GOP primary, the provisional vote was 50/50. Which just goes to show that provisional ballots lean Dem, and we can probably expect the same 50/50 split in JoCo. That means that of the 1500 or so provisional that JoCo will count this afternoon, maybe only 700-800 will matter.
Next, of the provisonal GOP votes in Sedgwick, Kobach got 49.5%. Colyer got 35.2%. In the total vote, Kobach got 45.7% to Colyer's 37%. So Kobach actually performed slightly better, and Colyer slightly worse, in the provisional voting. That's a surprise.
If JoCo follows this trend, that's very bad news for Colyer.
Post by: bucket on August 14, 2018, 11:07:55 AM
Post by: sys on August 14, 2018, 11:24:28 AM
If you really want get nerdy about this, here's how the provisionals broke down in Sedgwick....
Of the 1,326 provisionals counted, only 661 were for the GOP. 665 were for the Dems. So even though roughly 70% of the vote in Sedgwick was in the GOP primary, the provisional vote was 50/50. Which just goes to show that provisional ballots lean Dem, and we can probably expect the same 50/50 split in JoCo. That means that of the 1500 or so provisional that JoCo will count this afternoon, maybe only 700-800 will matter.
Next, of the provisonal GOP votes in Sedgwick, Kobach got 49.5%. Colyer got 35.2%. In the total vote, Kobach got 45.7% to Colyer's 37%. So Kobach actually performed slightly better, and Colyer slightly worse, in the provisional voting. That's a surprise.
If JoCo follows this trend, that's very bad news for Colyer.
that's good stuff, ksu_w.
i don't think we even need to worry about the relative performances, though. 300 is too many, there's not enough votes left for colyer to catch up, even if joco breaks heavily for him (which as you note, there's no reason to think they will).
this thing is over. on to the recount.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 14, 2018, 11:44:33 AM
Post by: sys on August 14, 2018, 12:32:29 PM
Yeah but the lead KK finishes with is very significant, both in terms of a recount and whether Colyer sues to count more provisionals or absentees.
good point.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 14, 2018, 01:13:57 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on August 14, 2018, 01:20:26 PM
You won't find this analysis in any of the papers or other publications, btw. This is GE Premium Exclusive Content.
I appreciate it. It's tough to find a good update out there and not articles that are already outdated.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 14, 2018, 01:45:54 PM
https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/election/article216653870.html (https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/election/article216653870.html)
Post by: steve dave on August 14, 2018, 04:15:02 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on August 14, 2018, 04:18:00 PM
Post by: sys on August 14, 2018, 04:46:15 PM
Post by: DQ12 on August 14, 2018, 04:49:24 PM
Post by: wetwillie on August 14, 2018, 04:53:30 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 14, 2018, 04:58:50 PM
Post by: wetwillie on August 14, 2018, 05:01:38 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 14, 2018, 05:02:17 PM
Waste of taxpayers money, time to unify the party.
The taxpayers only pay if the original count was wrong.
Post by: sys on August 14, 2018, 05:08:46 PM
Waste of taxpayers money, time to unify the party.
time to unite the right.
Post by: wetwillie on August 14, 2018, 05:13:20 PM
Waste of taxpayers money, time to unify the party.
time to unite the right.
I’d rather be Russian than a democrat.
Post by: Phil Titola on August 14, 2018, 05:56:39 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 14, 2018, 06:23:02 PM
So have a recount. State law requires him to request it by this Friday and for it to be completed in 5 days. The party will coelesce behind the winner. At least enough to easily beat the split vote between Orman and whatserface.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 14, 2018, 06:27:52 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on August 14, 2018, 07:34:19 PM
Btw, I expect there will be a serious push to get the Dem candidate out of the race and off the ballot so they can consolidate behind Orman. They will do anything to beat KK.
That will absolutely not happen.
Post by: Kat Kid on August 14, 2018, 07:34:44 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 14, 2018, 07:37:45 PM
Btw, I expect there will be a serious push to get the Dem candidate out of the race and off the ballot so they can consolidate behind Orman. They will do anything to beat KK.
That will absolutely not happen.
Yeah that would never happen. Except that it did just a few years ago.
Post by: Kat Kid on August 14, 2018, 07:43:26 PM
Btw, I expect there will be a serious push to get the Dem candidate out of the race and off the ballot so they can consolidate behind Orman. They will do anything to beat KK.
That will absolutely not happen.
Yeah that would never happen. Except that it did just a few years ago.
That definitely happened in the Senate race against Roberts. I think Kelly is a stronger candidate and though Kobach is a big favorite, Democrats will not pressure her to get out. Sorry I thought Taylor had some like scandal as well but I looked it up and it was just a play for a senate seat.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 14, 2018, 08:21:39 PM
Post by: sys on August 14, 2018, 08:30:35 PM
Ordinarily I’d agree with you that the Dems wouldn’t try the same trick twice. And they wouldn’t have tried it against Colyer. But they really hate Kobach. And they might have a chance of beating him if they throw their support to Orman.
polls with the three candidates show kelly and kobach way out ahead of orman who only gets like 10% support. his only role is as a spoiler and there is no chance that the democrats will pull kelly to help him.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 14, 2018, 08:34:38 PM
If you really want get nerdy about this, here's how the provisionals broke down in Sedgwick....
Of the 1,326 provisionals counted, only 661 were for the GOP. 665 were for the Dems. So even though roughly 70% of the vote in Sedgwick was in the GOP primary, the provisional vote was 50/50. Which just goes to show that provisional ballots lean Dem, and we can probably expect the same 50/50 split in JoCo. That means that of the 1500 or so provisional that JoCo will count this afternoon, maybe only 700-800 will matter.
Next, of the provisonal GOP votes in Sedgwick, Kobach got 49.5%. Colyer got 35.2%. In the total vote, Kobach got 45.7% to Colyer's 37%. So Kobach actually performed slightly better, and Colyer slightly worse, in the provisional voting. That's a surprise.
If JoCo follows this trend, that's very bad news for Colyer.
Not that it matters at this point, but the JoCo provisional count basically followed the same exact trend as the Sedgwick provisional count. 60% of the JoCo vote was in the GOP primary, but the provisional ballots split 53/47 for the GOP. Only 772 provisional votes were cast in the GOP primary.
Kobach's 42% provisional ballot share outperformed his 37% in the total vote. Colyer's 39% provisional ballot share underperformed his 43% of the total vote.
I suspect this is why Colyer conceded. The final dozen or so counties to count their provisionals would likely have only made the numbers worse, as would suing to count even more provisionals.
Post by: DaBigTrain on August 14, 2018, 08:36:36 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 14, 2018, 08:51:37 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 14, 2018, 09:58:54 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 14, 2018, 10:05:30 PM
Ordinarily I’d agree with you that the Dems wouldn’t try the same trick twice. And they wouldn’t have tried it against Colyer. But they really hate Kobach. And they might have a chance of beating him if they throw their support to Orman.
polls with the three candidates show kelly and kobach way out ahead of orman who only gets like 10% support. his only role is as a spoiler and there is no chance that the democrats will pull kelly to help him.
Can you share these polls??
Also, Orman is a tool.
Post by: sys on August 14, 2018, 10:32:41 PM
https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article215375450.html
but while i was googling to find it, i saw this one that gives orman more support in a 2-way with kobach. note that it was not a neutral poller; however. and i haven't tried to find the actual poll and see if it looks legit.
http://www.cjonline.com/news/20180810/new-poll-invigorates-debate-about-orman-or-kelly-as-spoilers-against-gop-nominee
Post by: Kat Kid on August 14, 2018, 10:45:20 PM
Post by: gatoveintisiete on August 14, 2018, 10:48:17 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 14, 2018, 11:42:12 PM
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSi7bR0cRr2zOC4n8pQONOPIQxEZLM9cDxh8NkbeuOAvf4CvgAf)
Does that lady on the left look to you like the candidate that’s going to stop Kobach? The vast majority of Kansans never even heard of her until she won the Dem nomination, and most still probably haven’t. She’s an inconsequential nothing-burger, an acceptable sacrificial lamb for an honorable loss to Colyer. But a loss to Kobach? No effing way Dems are going down on the USS Kelly without a fight. They’re going to desert her in droves for the Orman life boat.
Post by: ChiComCat on August 15, 2018, 06:53:36 AM
Post by: mocat on August 15, 2018, 06:56:10 AM
Sebelious won and looks quite similar to the lady on the left.
Take it to the what has changed thread
Post by: Dugout DickStone on August 15, 2018, 08:04:40 AM
Post by: 8manpick on August 15, 2018, 09:10:28 AM
Sebelious won and looks quite similar to the lady on the left.
:dubious:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXTnPPmX0AEzGQB.jpg)
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 15, 2018, 09:37:48 AM
https://www.kansascity.com/latest-news/article203559889.html (https://www.kansascity.com/latest-news/article203559889.html)
Post by: wetwillie on August 15, 2018, 09:45:04 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on August 15, 2018, 10:02:03 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on August 15, 2018, 11:27:53 AM
I don't think anyone would mistake the two but I took K-S-U to mean Kelly's "look" can't win in Kansas. That look to me is an older lady with short gray hair which has won here before.
That's exactly what he meant. Middle aged white lady is middle aged white lady. K-S-U was hinting that a democrat candidate needs to be young, male, or have some melanin to energize the base. There is no person in America that would energize the democratic base enough to make a democrat gubernatorial candidate viable. Enjoy it.
Post by: Kat Kid on August 15, 2018, 12:12:09 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 15, 2018, 12:39:07 PM
I don't think anyone would mistake the two but I took K-S-U to mean Kelly's "look" can't win in Kansas. That look to me is an older lady with short gray hair which has won here before.
That's exactly what he meant. Middle aged white lady is middle aged white lady. K-S-U was hinting that a democrat candidate needs to be young, male, or have some melanin to energize the base. There is no person in America that would energize the democratic base enough to make a democrat gubernatorial candidate viable. Enjoy it.
That's pretty much what the Democrats said in the article he linked.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 15, 2018, 12:58:37 PM
Post by: Woogy on August 15, 2018, 02:47:42 PM
I don't think anyone would mistake the two but I took K-S-U to mean Kelly's "look" can't win in Kansas. That look to me is an older lady with short gray hair which has won here before.
That's exactly what he meant. Middle aged white lady is middle aged white lady. K-S-U was hinting that a democrat candidate needs to be young, male, or have some melanin to energize the base. There is no person in America that would energize the democratic base enough to make a democrat gubernatorial candidate viable. Enjoy it.
That's pretty much what the Democrats said in the article he linked.
Although the last 2 non 'Pub Goofs were essentially "middle aged white lady". Kelly is actually older than Joan Finney was when she was elected.
Post by: MakeItRain on August 15, 2018, 03:21:52 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 15, 2018, 03:29:49 PM
Post by: DQ12 on August 15, 2018, 03:30:08 PM
It could be a middle aged white woman that looks like Sandra Bullock with the political clout of a 60's Kennedy, but as long as she has a D next to her name, she isn't running a statewide race in Kansas. The political climate is so much different than when Kathleen won, and Joan Finney won 28 years ago, she's been dead for 17.I don't know. Polls haven't exactly been a landslide for Koby in the general.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 15, 2018, 03:51:58 PM
Here's a fun trip down memory lane. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Kansas,_2014 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Kansas,_2014)
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On September 3, Democratic nominee Chad Taylor withdrew from the race. On September 4, Kris Kobach, the Republican Kansas Secretary of State, announced that Taylor would remain on the ballot because state law demands he declare himself "incapable of fulfilling the duties of office if elected" in order to be removed, which he did not do. Taylor challenged the decision, and on September 18 the Kansas Supreme Court decided that his name would be taken off the ballot [because when has, you know, the law actually mattered to those liberal activists?].
On the same day, Kobach demanded the chairman of the Democratic Party name a replacement in eight days, saying he will consider litigation to force the party if they refuse.
A registered Democrat with family ties to Republican Governor Sam Brownback's campaign also filed a petition with the Kansas Supreme Court on September 18 to force the Democratic Party to name a new candidate. Kobach ordered ballots to be mailed to overseas voters on September 20 without a Democratic candidate, but included a disclaimer that another ballot will be sent if the Democratic Party names a replacement candidate.
The state district court in Shawnee County threw out the petition, meaning no replacement for Taylor needed to be named.
Oh the Dems, their tricks, and their courtroom accomplices....
Post by: SkinnyBenny on August 15, 2018, 08:42:13 PM
The last time a republican won an election for governor of Kansas to follow another republican was 1965.
None of this matters now.
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 15, 2018, 08:48:39 PM
It could be a middle aged white woman that looks like Sandra Bullock with the political clout of a 60's Kennedy, but as long as she has a D next to her name, she isn't running a statewide race in Kansas. The political climate is so much different than when Kathleen won, and Joan Finney won 28 years ago, she's been dead for 17.
Agree. As long as the Democrat party continues to push a far left commy agenda and weirdo social politics its candidates will continue to fail in Kansas. The pub will, at worst, be the far lesser of two evils.
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 16, 2018, 09:02:05 AM
We're going to see a lot of very suspect polling in the next few weeks. These polls typically vastly over-sample liberal voters. Just remember that most polling in the final weeks before election day 2014 had Orman winning by 1-5 points. Roberts won by 11.
Here's a fun trip down memory lane. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Kansas,_2014 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Kansas,_2014)QuoteOn September 3, Democratic nominee Chad Taylor withdrew from the race. On September 4, Kris Kobach, the Republican Kansas Secretary of State, announced that Taylor would remain on the ballot because state law demands he declare himself "incapable of fulfilling the duties of office if elected" in order to be removed, which he did not do. Taylor challenged the decision, and on September 18 the Kansas Supreme Court decided that his name would be taken off the ballot [because when has, you know, the law actually mattered to those liberal activists?].
On the same day, Kobach demanded the chairman of the Democratic Party name a replacement in eight days, saying he will consider litigation to force the party if they refuse.
A registered Democrat with family ties to Republican Governor Sam Brownback's campaign also filed a petition with the Kansas Supreme Court on September 18 to force the Democratic Party to name a new candidate. Kobach ordered ballots to be mailed to overseas voters on September 20 without a Democratic candidate, but included a disclaimer that another ballot will be sent if the Democratic Party names a replacement candidate.
The state district court in Shawnee County threw out the petition, meaning no replacement for Taylor needed to be named.
Oh the Dems, their tricks, and their courtroom accomplices....
Their tricks are numerous.
Post by: ChiComCat on August 16, 2018, 09:08:18 AM
Post by: MakeItRain on August 16, 2018, 11:45:44 PM
The last time a republican won an election for governor of Kansas to follow another republican was 1965.
The last time Kansans re-elected a dipshit who ruined the credit of the state was 2014.
The last time Kansans elected a racist moron reality show trainwreck by 20 damn points was 2016.
The last time Kansans allowed a racist crook who has cost the state millions of dollars to win a major party's nomination was 2018.
My pattern is better. The state is filled with families being sustained with subsidies who don't want Pedro or Rashawn to take their cut. Who don't want Suzie to get her baby who is three days from full term getting her baby cut out and have its body harvested for parts like an '87 El Camino. They also don't want Pete and Billy holding hands or getting their (I'm too stupid to find a better word than gay) on the other kids in gym class. The state is filled with people who rail against identity politics but would rather the state be the laughingstock of the world than to be led by anyone who doesn't espouse WASPy, cicgender males.
Post by: wetwillie on August 16, 2018, 11:53:49 PM
Post by: catastrophe on August 17, 2018, 07:14:46 AM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 17, 2018, 08:45:22 AM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 17, 2018, 08:52:06 AM
Post by: wetwillie on August 17, 2018, 09:34:24 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on August 17, 2018, 09:35:37 AM
Post by: catastrophe on August 17, 2018, 09:57:07 AM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 17, 2018, 10:22:51 AM
Remember that.
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 17, 2018, 10:38:29 AM
Post by: mocat on August 17, 2018, 02:59:03 PM
Post by: MakeItRain on August 17, 2018, 05:59:28 PM
I think it was meant as an unfounded fear kansas rubes have of demoncraps
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This guy is the best
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 22, 2018, 03:58:57 PM
https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiECI2f2dUNL55uuqxjc_VbzUqGQgEKhAIACoHCAow29iECzCJyoEDMNj3gwY?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen (https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiECI2f2dUNL55uuqxjc_VbzUqGQgEKhAIACoHCAow29iECzCJyoEDMNj3gwY?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen)
Post by: star seed 7 on August 22, 2018, 04:02:49 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 22, 2018, 04:04:34 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on August 22, 2018, 07:52:59 PM
It does say something about the shambles that is the Kansas Democrat Party that if Laura Kelly stays on the ballot she will finish a distant third behind KK and Orman.
I will bet you any number up to $500 that she doesn’t finish third.
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Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on August 22, 2018, 10:43:28 PM
Dem attempting (and likely suing) to get invalidate petition signatures and get Orman off the ballot. Who knew Democrats were such fans of disenfranchising people?
https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiECI2f2dUNL55uuqxjc_VbzUqGQgEKhAIACoHCAow29iECzCJyoEDMNj3gwY?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen (https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiECI2f2dUNL55uuqxjc_VbzUqGQgEKhAIACoHCAow29iECzCJyoEDMNj3gwY?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen)
It's adorbs they think they have a chance
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 23, 2018, 02:19:22 PM
Rising Democratic star Josh Svaty: Abortion stance sank my bid for Kansas governor (https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/steve-kraske/article217130575.html)
Post by: DQ12 on August 23, 2018, 02:37:15 PM
Josh Svaty is "disillusioned" with politics now that Planned Parenthood crushed his bid for the nomination. I almost feel sorry the guy. But if you choose to be a Democrat you better know to toe the line with the abortion industry.I must say, it really sucks that the abortion issue is so divided along party lines.
Rising Democratic star Josh Svaty: Abortion stance sank my bid for Kansas governor (https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/steve-kraske/article217130575.html)
Post by: catastrophe on August 23, 2018, 02:58:11 PM
Post by: Kat Kid on August 23, 2018, 05:41:10 PM
Josh Svaty is "disillusioned" with politics now that Planned Parenthood crushed his bid for the nomination. I almost feel sorry the guy. But if you choose to be a Democrat you better know to toe the line with the abortion industry.
Rising Democratic star Josh Svaty: Abortion stance sank my bid for Kansas governor (https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/steve-kraske/article217130575.html)
You interested in betting that Kelly doesn’t finish third?
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Post by: sys on August 23, 2018, 10:28:23 PM
You interested in betting that Kelly doesn’t finish third?
stop trying to take advantage of poor k_w, katkid. once orman forces kelly from the race, as everyone knows the dems are plotting, kelly will be unable to finish third.
Post by: Kat Kid on August 24, 2018, 09:06:28 AM
You interested in betting that Kelly doesn’t finish third?
stop trying to take advantage of poor k_w, katkid. once orman forces kelly from the race, as everyone knows the dems are plotting, kelly will be unable to finish third.
Why are you doing this?
Post by: sys on August 24, 2018, 09:11:53 AM
Why are you doing this?
k_w should bet me instead of you.
Post by: Kat Kid on August 27, 2018, 09:11:35 AM
https://twitter.com/LJWpqhancock/status/1034080619658141696
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on August 27, 2018, 10:17:09 AM
Post by: sys on August 27, 2018, 06:40:38 PM
Post by: K-S-U-Wildcats! on August 31, 2018, 03:37:58 PM
Firefighter's Union Backs Kobach (https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/election/article217653300.html)
Post by: mocat on August 31, 2018, 04:19:36 PM
Post by: sys on August 31, 2018, 07:25:14 PM
Well, I've been saying this all along, but Kobach cares waaaaay about firefighters than Kelly or Orman. I've heard Orman once sucker punched a firefighter at a strip club in Coffeyville.
ok.
Post by: star seed 7 on August 31, 2018, 09:50:43 PM
Well, I've been saying this all along, but Kobach cares waaaaay about firefighters than Kelly or Orman. I've heard Orman once sucker punched a firefighter at a strip club in Coffeyville. So today's endorsement comes as no real surprise.
Firefighter's Union Backs Kobach (https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/election/article217653300.html)
Windmill dunk
Post by: sys on September 05, 2018, 11:52:19 PM
https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article217788210.html
Post by: star seed 7 on September 06, 2018, 12:08:19 AM
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The Kansas GOP said in an email that the support shows “the defenders of the Topeka status quo are quivering in their loafers.”
“This banded effort is a clear sign to voters that Kris Kobach is the candidate of change,” the party said.
Republicans are such dweebs
Post by: Kat Kid on September 07, 2018, 05:04:28 AM
QuoteThe Kansas GOP said in an email that the support shows “the defenders of the Topeka status quo are quivering in their loafers.”
“This banded effort is a clear sign to voters that Kris Kobach is the candidate of change,” the party said.
Republicans are such dweebs
Ah yes, Bill Graves is the status quo of the 2018 Kansas GOP. I guess Kobach is going to try to run to the right of Brownback, but what is he going to say about any of Brownback’s policies?
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Post by: Cire on September 07, 2018, 11:54:42 AM
https://www.google.com/search?safe=strict&ei=KK2SW-fZM4WGjwSv0rPYDw&q=adam+thomas+olathe&oq=adam+thomas+olathe&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i131j0.10882.13649..13793...0.0..0.73.437.7....3..0....1..gws-wiz.......0i67j0i22i30.TARBeXxpXnI
Post by: Kat Kid on September 08, 2018, 10:57:26 AM
https://twitter.com/LJWpqhancock/status/1038454925552967680
Post by: Kat Kid on September 08, 2018, 11:32:23 AM
https://twitter.com/jonshorman/status/1038464777222344704
Post by: sys on September 22, 2018, 05:57:48 PM
https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1043565019340918787
Post by: Trim on September 24, 2018, 11:21:13 PM
https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article218923415.html
Post by: sys on September 30, 2018, 01:01:31 PM
https://twitter.com/PoliticsReid/status/1046453802176516096
Post by: star seed 7 on September 30, 2018, 01:29:53 PM
Post by: bucket on October 03, 2018, 07:01:18 PM
Topeka! :excited:
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 03, 2018, 07:08:11 PM
Post by: bucket on October 03, 2018, 07:13:48 PM
Did Yoder do something to piss off the establishment?
Once broke bread with kids who were in favor of tougher gun laws :dunno:
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 03, 2018, 08:09:17 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 04, 2018, 08:58:11 AM
Did Yoder do something to piss off the establishment?
Once broke bread with kids who were in favor of tougher gun laws :dunno:
Trump did that, too.
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 04, 2018, 09:01:22 AM
Post by: bucket on October 06, 2018, 07:38:32 PM
Did Yoder do something to piss off the establishment?
https://twitter.com/HunterMw/status/1048733034604847104
:lol:
Post by: star seed 7 on October 06, 2018, 08:20:32 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 07, 2018, 07:10:12 PM
Post by: ChiComCat on October 08, 2018, 10:49:57 AM
Kansas is great, imho.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/yIqWlVu57ebD2/giphy.gif)
Post by: star seed 7 on October 09, 2018, 07:06:07 PM
https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article219720280.html
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A local Kansas GOP official lashed out at Democratic congressional candidate Sharice Davids on social media earlier this week, saying “your radical socialist kick boxing lesbian Indian will be sent back packing to the reservation.”
The Facebook message was written by Republican precinct committeeman Michael Kalny of Shawnee and sent to Anne Pritchett, president of the Johnson County Democratic Women’s north chapter.
“Little Ms. Pritchett- you and your comrades stealth attack on Yoder is going to blow up in your leftist face,” Kalny wrote. “The REAL REPUBLICANS will remember what the scum DEMONRATS tried to do to Kavanaugh in November. Your radical socialist kick boxing lesbian Indian will be sent back packing to the reservation.”
Roughly 50 exclamation points followed the end of the message.
(https://www.kansascity.com/latest-news/79atfz/picture219733910/alternates/FREE_768/SHARICE_DAVIDS-tweet.jpg)
Post by: CHONGS on October 09, 2018, 07:34:28 PM
Ole Yoder just locked up the wacky vote (well even more so).
Post by: bucket on October 10, 2018, 08:11:21 PM
Post by: CHONGS on October 10, 2018, 08:15:18 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 18, 2018, 03:43:39 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 18, 2018, 04:02:40 PM
Post by: wetwillie on October 18, 2018, 04:21:37 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 18, 2018, 04:23:18 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 18, 2018, 04:46:57 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 19, 2018, 10:52:29 AM
We probably should just have a GOP voter suppression master thread. The bullshit going on in Georgia and north Dakota is pretty bad. KKKobach doesn't want to be left out
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 19, 2018, 12:00:36 PM
Post by: DQ12 on October 19, 2018, 12:51:30 PM
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1053299738932477952Dodge City has a bus system?
We probably should just have a GOP voter suppression master thread. The bullshit going on in Georgia and north Dakota is pretty bad. KKKobach doesn't want to be left out
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D-TRAN Fixed Route Service
D-TRAN bus service consists of three bus routes and 55 designated stops located throughout Dodge City. Buses arrive at each stop every hour at the same time, from 6 am to 7 pm Monday through Friday. There are free transfers between routes in order to reach your destination. Transfers can be made at the Santa Fe Depot Transit Center, the Midpoint Transfer at Wal-Mart, and a limited number of other stop locations. We are committed to providing Dodge City with safe, reliable, and cost effective transportation service.
https://www.dodgecity.org/727/Public-Transportation (https://www.dodgecity.org/727/Public-Transportation)
I'll be damned.
Post by: star seed 7 on October 19, 2018, 12:56:10 PM
Post by: DQ12 on October 19, 2018, 12:57:32 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 19, 2018, 02:39:47 PM
Post by: renocat on October 19, 2018, 05:42:53 PM
Post by: michigancat on October 19, 2018, 05:51:11 PM
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1053299738932477952
We probably should just have a GOP voter suppression master thread. The bullshit going on in Georgia and north Dakota is pretty bad. KKKobach doesn't want to be left out
That's crazy. also props to Dodge City for having bus stops! I had no idea.
Post by: michigancat on October 22, 2018, 12:51:43 PM
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1054424648740413440?s=19
Post by: star seed 7 on October 22, 2018, 12:54:30 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 22, 2018, 01:05:12 PM
I'm not sure suppressing the western Kansas vote is a strategy that is going to pay off for republicans.
He hates the local labor force
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 22, 2018, 01:23:40 PM
Also, Trump won Ford County by like 40 points, so the notion that this is some conspiracy is laughable.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 22, 2018, 01:30:25 PM
I have a hard time believing that Dodge City only has one place to vote. That can't be real.
Also, Trump won Ford County by like 40 points, so the notion that this is some conspiracy is laughable.
“It’s not real! ...and if it is, it doesn’t matter!”
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 22, 2018, 01:35:09 PM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on October 22, 2018, 02:14:31 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 22, 2018, 08:19:39 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 22, 2018, 08:32:42 PM
Post by: Cire on October 23, 2018, 02:56:00 PM
Post by: bucket on October 26, 2018, 12:41:27 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on October 29, 2018, 11:33:44 AM
Post by: 8manpick on October 29, 2018, 12:52:05 PM
Hey Titola (or other MO-cats), do you know any resources for evaluating the judges on the Missouri ballot? Everything else is pretty straight forward, but judge information is hard to come across. I don't really care about r/d, I just want competent and thoughtful judges.Always vote remove
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 29, 2018, 01:07:27 PM
Post by: sys on October 30, 2018, 12:20:52 PM
https://twitter.com/pmiller1693/status/1057286934345719808
Post by: sys on November 01, 2018, 04:14:53 PM
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kansas-laura-kelly-kris-kobach-governor-race_us_5bdb27f1e4b019a7ab5b2d49
Post by: star seed 7 on November 01, 2018, 04:56:28 PM
Crazy
Post by: CHONGS on November 01, 2018, 05:24:26 PM
Post by: sys on November 01, 2018, 05:26:47 PM
Oh come on, she has zero chance.
she has somewhere around a 41.5% chance.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2018-midterm-election-forecast/governor/
Post by: star seed 7 on November 01, 2018, 05:28:50 PM
Post by: steve dave on November 01, 2018, 06:46:18 PM
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Post by: sys on November 01, 2018, 08:10:14 PM
Same chance as Beto. And if even one of them is close I’ll be surprised. It’s TX and KS. That’s important to remember.
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you and chingon should try to do a better job of believing what the data tell you rather than what you want to believe. kelly has a much better chance of winning than beto does.
Post by: steve dave on November 01, 2018, 08:12:02 PM
Same chance as Beto. And if even one of them is close I’ll be surprised. It’s TX and KS. That’s important to remember.
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you and chingon should try to do a better job of believing what the data tell you rather than what you want to believe. kelly has a much better chance of winning than beto does.
chingon has no excuse but I'm a 100% gut feeling guy. so I'm home free on this slanderousness.
Post by: CHONGS on November 01, 2018, 08:39:02 PM
Post by: sys on November 01, 2018, 09:32:21 PM
Post by: waks on November 02, 2018, 08:10:15 AM
Hey Titola (or other MO-cats), do you know any resources for evaluating the judges on the Missouri ballot? Everything else is pretty straight forward, but judge information is hard to come across. I don't really care about r/d, I just want competent and thoughtful judges.Find out who appointed them for starters.
Post by: catastrophe on November 02, 2018, 10:11:39 AM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 02, 2018, 10:56:08 AM
How does Missouri select new judges? Does the governor just appoint them?
I think they're elected except for Jackson and St Louis counties, which had their privileges revoked because of corruption
Post by: sys on November 06, 2018, 03:10:58 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 06, 2018, 03:32:46 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 06, 2018, 03:37:02 PM
Post by: chum1 on November 06, 2018, 09:01:54 PM
https://twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1060003821198499840
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 06, 2018, 09:06:56 PM
So kobach in a land slide
:lol:
Post by: steve dave on November 06, 2018, 09:09:33 PM
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Post by: star seed 7 on November 06, 2018, 09:11:59 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 06, 2018, 09:12:28 PM
KS rubes will play steve dave like a fiddle
Post by: wetwillie on November 06, 2018, 09:17:12 PM
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 06, 2018, 09:23:42 PM
Post by: DaBigTrain on November 06, 2018, 09:26:19 PM
Post by: mocat on November 06, 2018, 09:35:23 PM
Post by: wetwillie on November 06, 2018, 09:36:51 PM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 06, 2018, 09:38:38 PM
Problem is this rough rider is probably going to be attorney general now
:sdeek:
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on November 06, 2018, 09:39:43 PM
Problem is this rough rider is probably going to be attorney general now
:sdeek:
LOL
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 06, 2018, 09:50:33 PM
Post by: puniraptor on November 06, 2018, 10:16:10 PM
Problem is this rough rider is probably going to be attorney general now
:sdeek:
LOL
that's america's problem. at least kansas is safe
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 06, 2018, 10:45:14 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 06, 2018, 11:20:13 PM
If there's one thing we know for sure, it's that Kobach is going to be governor from 2018-2026.
lmbo
Post by: SkinnyBenny on November 07, 2018, 01:46:56 AM
Post by: steve dave on November 07, 2018, 07:34:31 AM
Post by: steve dave on November 07, 2018, 07:35:24 AM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on November 07, 2018, 07:52:35 AM
Post by: ChiComCat on November 07, 2018, 07:59:23 AM
Post by: steve dave on November 07, 2018, 08:26:34 AM
Post by: star seed 7 on November 07, 2018, 08:30:35 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 07, 2018, 09:32:07 AM
Post by: sys on November 07, 2018, 09:43:52 AM
Post by: Dugout DickStone on November 07, 2018, 12:52:16 PM
Post by: puniraptor on November 07, 2018, 04:52:30 PM
Problem is this rough rider is probably going to be attorney general now
:sdeek:
LOL
that's america's problem. at least kansas is safe
sessions got canned, this is gonna happen :excited:
Post by: Kat Kid on November 09, 2018, 09:48:34 AM
Sounds like Kobach ran an incompetent campaign. Especially considering the ks house races it is particularly bad.
Post by: SkinnyBenny on December 08, 2018, 11:03:03 AM
Post by: wetwillie on January 04, 2019, 12:38:00 PM
https://twitter.com/ap/status/1081238612501499905?s=21
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 04, 2019, 01:19:11 PM
Post by: SkinnyBenny on January 04, 2019, 01:33:49 PM
Post by: sys on January 06, 2019, 04:54:10 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 06, 2019, 04:57:23 PM
Post by: Cire on January 08, 2019, 02:06:51 PM
Post by: wetwillie on January 08, 2019, 02:26:30 PM
Post by: sys on January 17, 2019, 11:02:52 PM
Rumblings the Kansas GOP wants to run Pompeo
https://twitter.com/mateagold/status/1086110349533872128
Post by: chum1 on January 17, 2019, 11:22:14 PM
https://twitter.com/pkcapitol/status/1086128076919111680
Post by: DQ12 on January 18, 2019, 12:35:24 PM
Post by: Woogy on January 18, 2019, 04:07:05 PM
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 18, 2019, 04:09:02 PM
He's going to be Pence's VP after the impeachment.
That would probably be a smart move on Pence's part.
Post by: Kat Kid on January 18, 2019, 08:25:37 PM
He's not running for Senator.
What do you think his next step is?
Post by: Spracne on January 19, 2019, 12:34:00 AM
*tap* *tap*He's not running for Senator.
What do you think his next step is?
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Post by: bucket on January 23, 2019, 07:42:26 PM
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Post by: sys on January 23, 2019, 08:20:44 PM
Post by: steve dave on January 23, 2019, 08:24:52 PM
he'd very likely win a senate general election. but hopefully kansas 'pubs are no longer infatuated with him.
kansas pubs are definitely still
Post by: Cire on January 23, 2019, 09:12:00 PM
Would be very moderate
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Post by: Rage Against the McKee on January 24, 2019, 08:07:20 AM
he'd very likely win a senate general election. but hopefully kansas 'pubs are no longer infatuated with him.
kansas pubs are definitely still
Kris would struggle in a primary just because Kansas pubs have already seen him lose a statewide general election.
Post by: LickNeckey on January 26, 2019, 07:03:03 PM
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Post by: sys on January 26, 2019, 09:30:34 PM
Post by: LickNeckey on January 27, 2019, 12:32:35 AM
Maybe states should just build walls on their own borders if that's what their constituents want.
It was about States rights man...
Post by: catastrophe on January 27, 2019, 03:00:37 PM
Post by: Cire on March 06, 2019, 08:51:57 PM
My classmate who I heard was rumored at a run recently resigned their position as pres CEO to move back to KS...
May be happening after all
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Post by: bucket on May 17, 2019, 05:27:42 PM
:cry:
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Post by: Institutional Control on May 20, 2019, 09:46:24 PM
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