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Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #50 on: November 04, 2017, 09:14:48 AM »
if Sean were to become a good, not even great head coach at K-State that would be the first time in major college sports a son takes over for his dad and is successful and the first P5 football HC to be successful with only special teams experience.

So?

I’m pointing out how stupidly unlikely he’ll be successful based on the history of coaching.

Well if we get Venables it would be the first time a P5 head coach was successful after being a defensive coordinator in the state of South Carolina and then coming to Kansas to follow after a coach of at least 70 years old whose name is on the stadium.

So there are risks all around I guess is what I’m saying.

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« Reply #51 on: November 04, 2017, 09:53:58 AM »
Meh, I seem to remember Tim Tibesar coaching a respectable special teams in Ron's first year.

That's fair, Prince had Top 20 special teams every year he was here.

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« Reply #52 on: November 04, 2017, 04:27:27 PM »
Meh, I seem to remember Tim Tibesar coaching a respectable special teams in Ron's first year.

Are we really not giving Sean credit for having good special teams for twenty years running?

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #53 on: November 04, 2017, 04:29:15 PM »
Meh, I seem to remember Tim Tibesar coaching a respectable special teams in Ron's first year.

Are we really not giving Sean credit for having good special teams for twenty years running?

My theory is that some have just become so used to good special teams that they just assume everyone is like that  :dunno:
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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #54 on: November 04, 2017, 06:32:09 PM »
Meh, I seem to remember Tim Tibesar coaching a respectable special teams in Ron's first year.

Are we really not giving Sean credit for having good special teams for twenty years running?

Not taking anything away from Sean's accomplishments coaching special teams.
Point I was trying to make is that it may be necessary but certainly not sufficient criteria alone to forecast his success as a head coach. Case in point being Tim Tibesar, who did very poorly as a DC when handed the keys in Ron's 2nd year.

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« Reply #55 on: November 04, 2017, 09:29:49 PM »
Meh, I seem to remember Tim Tibesar coaching a respectable special teams in Ron's first year.

Are we really not giving Sean credit for having good special teams for twenty years running?
Stop trying to give him credit for the last twenty years. He wasn’t coaching until 2009

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« Reply #56 on: November 04, 2017, 09:38:53 PM »
Meh, I seem to remember Tim Tibesar coaching a respectable special teams in Ron's first year.

Are we really not giving Sean credit for having good special teams for twenty years running?
Stop trying to give him credit for the last twenty years. He wasn’t coaching until 2009

I'm not going to look up the documented evidence but I'm 100% certain that Sean did special teams work before 2009. Maybe other person can back this up, but I believe the reason he was named an actual coach in 2009 because the rules on how many coaches you're allowed changed from 05 to 09. Either that and/or we had less budgetary restrictions during Snyder 2.0.

He wasn't allowed to be on the field during games but I know for a fact he was working with kickers during the DOD.

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« Reply #57 on: November 04, 2017, 09:45:09 PM »
He still wasn’t a coach in 2009, he was still an associate AD and head of Football operations in 2009. Even if he was doing work with the special teams before he was an official coach, which would have been illegal, you are trying to give him credit for us having good special teams for TWENTY YEARS, when he wasn’t even an actual coach until 2010.

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« Reply #58 on: November 04, 2017, 09:48:38 PM »
Sorry, I’m a liar, he wasn’t a full time coach until 2011, not 2010
https://issuu.com/k-statesports/docs/11fbmediaguide
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« Reply #59 on: November 04, 2017, 09:49:37 PM »
But by all means try to give him credit for the special teams over the last 20 years.

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« Reply #60 on: November 04, 2017, 10:22:01 PM »
Scott, I truly don't care enough. Give him credit, don't give him credit, constantly talking about Sean Snyder is ridiculous and exhausting.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #61 on: November 04, 2017, 10:27:38 PM »
Scott, I truly don't care enough. Give him credit, don't give him credit, constantly talking about Sean Snyder is ridiculous and exhausting.
Had anyone mentioned that he should have been a coordinator at another school if he wanted to be head coach yet?

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« Reply #62 on: November 04, 2017, 10:30:43 PM »
Scott, I truly don't care enough. Give him credit, don't give him credit, constantly talking about Sean Snyder is ridiculous and exhausting.
Had anyone mentioned that he should have been a coordinator at another school if he wanted to be head coach yet?

Nope. Never. Not once.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #63 on: November 10, 2017, 11:14:53 AM »
From footballscoop:


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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #65 on: November 10, 2017, 11:53:17 AM »
From footballscoop:



this is an interview process i could support.

however i think football scoop should be made aware of the candidacy of Sean Snyder and his 20 plus years of special team dominance

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« Reply #66 on: November 10, 2017, 11:59:40 AM »
They accounted for that, but dismissed him as a candidate.

Pretty funny piece IMO. http://footballscoop.com/news/footballscoops-nuclear-winter-3-0/


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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #67 on: November 10, 2017, 12:04:29 PM »
is it troublesome that footballscoop.com has probably just conducted a more thorough and legitimate hiring process than we used to hire Weber?

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« Reply #68 on: November 10, 2017, 12:12:00 PM »
is it troublesome that footballscoop.com has probably just conducted a more thorough and legitimate hiring process than we used to hire Weber?

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« Reply #69 on: November 10, 2017, 12:17:11 PM »
I feel like everyone is discounting Sean's role as "Mr. Clean up" during the Ron Prince Era. Seems like it would be an important skill for a HC to have.  :dunno:
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« Reply #70 on: November 10, 2017, 12:28:28 PM »
He's still that guy  :thumbs:
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« Reply #71 on: November 10, 2017, 12:48:21 PM »
How much easier would it be to swallow Sean being the HC if he came out and fired Dimel the first day on the job?

I am definitely outing my identy to some here by making this statement, but oh well.

Heard from a friend who talked with an intoxicated Sean Snyders son that his dad deserves a chance and his first order of business would be to clean house (keeping coleman and klein and some other small guys) and bring in younger coordinators. Apparently Seans son was drunk at the KU game and yelled so many slurs towards dimel that Dimel's wife got up and left pissed off.


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« Reply #72 on: November 10, 2017, 01:19:36 PM »
How much easier would it be to swallow Sean being the HC if he came out and fired Dimel the first day on the job?

I am definitely outing my identy to some here by making this statement, but oh well.

Heard from a friend who talked with an intoxicated Sean Snyders son that his dad deserves a chance and his first order of business would be to clean house (keeping coleman and klein and some other small guys) and bring in younger coordinators. Apparently Seans son was drunk at the KU game and yelled so many slurs towards dimel that Dimel's wife got up and left pissed off.

Hmmm, the timelines don’t match up but sean snyder might be pvegs’ dad.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #73 on: November 10, 2017, 01:50:35 PM »
LOL

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« Reply #74 on: November 10, 2017, 02:49:49 PM »
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