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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2017, 02:02:11 PM »
I think that was the case in the past, lots of first team guys on kick coverage


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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #26 on: November 03, 2017, 03:12:12 PM »
Scott, I also hear 30 times a season how early timeouts and delay of game penalties are unusual for a LHC Bill Snyder team
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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #27 on: November 03, 2017, 03:23:59 PM »
i’ve always been of the opinion that we’re great at special teams because we have to be. a result of the fact that it’s low hanging fruit and coach snyder’s recruiting and coaching philosophy.

our special teams excellence extends far beyond sean’s tenure, remember too that he was an all american on special teams himself


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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2017, 03:24:18 PM »
Just because its rare (especially in college), doesn't mean it can't work. John Harbaugh only had STC roles before becoming a head coach. The Chief's STC Dave Toub was interviewed by multiple teams for HC spots and has only been a ST guy.

Guys like Marv Levy, Dick Vermeil, Bill Cohwer, & Bill Belichick did have short OC/DC roles, but came up mainly as ST guys.

Sure, but due to the family thing, I'd feel better (as I think many would) if he proved himself elsewhere in addition to being successful here.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #29 on: November 03, 2017, 03:30:20 PM »
I have convinced myself that if you do not get Venables/Leavitt that Sean is the correct hire.

If it works you know immediately.

If it doesn't you know immediately.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2017, 03:33:56 PM »
I have convinced myself that if you do not get Venables/Leavitt that Sean is the correct hire.

If it works you know immediately.

If it doesn't you know immediately.

Coaches kids don't get long ropes.

see Knight/Sutton situ's

wtf

he goes 6-6 his first 2 years what happens?

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2017, 03:36:56 PM »
If he loses to KU either of those years he’s out. Otherwise he gets another year.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2017, 03:38:07 PM »
he goes to 2 bowl games, he aint going anywhere

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2017, 03:39:23 PM »
If he loses to KU either of those years he’s out. Otherwise he gets another year.

KSU would never fire a 2 year coach unless they went 0 fer...

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2017, 03:45:55 PM »
I have convinced myself that if you do not get Venables/Leavitt that Sean is the correct hire.

If it works you know immediately.

If it doesn't you know immediately.

Coaches kids don't get long ropes.

see Knight/Sutton situ's

wtf

he goes 6-6 his first 2 years what happens?
id say it all depends on how he got to 6-6 if its not trending up in year two and especially year 3 he would be out. i mean hell what is he 58?
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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2017, 03:49:25 PM »
Hiring Sean is just such a waste of time. I want Venables or some up-and-comer from the non-FBS ranks.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #36 on: November 03, 2017, 03:56:34 PM »
Hiring Sean is just such a waste of time. I want Venables or some up-and-comer from the non-FBS ranks.

we aren't getting Venables, he'll go someplace but not here after the run he's had.

We really should have run at PJ Fleck

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #37 on: November 03, 2017, 03:58:14 PM »
Ppl say that every year about venebles, but somehow he's still there.  :dunno:

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #38 on: November 03, 2017, 04:03:49 PM »
Ppl say that every year about venebles, but somehow he's still there.  :dunno:

this is his 5th year at Clemson.   He was at OU for 12.   I'm sure he's not in a big hurry, but I think he'll start trying to get started as a HC in the next 2 years.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #39 on: November 03, 2017, 04:04:39 PM »
Ppl say that every year about venebles, but somehow he's still there.  :dunno:
crazy to think but he may actually be happy where he is at, he is paid very well after all. i mean hell bill had offers and never left maybe thats it, i dont know. it could also be that the only time our hc position was open our ad mumped it up and now that it will be open again he might be interested
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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #40 on: November 03, 2017, 04:15:23 PM »
Ppl say that every year about venebles, but somehow he's still there.  :dunno:
sad that people like to come up with some conspiracy theory about him
like slime said, he’s happy coaching at primo schools and is waiting for the job that he wants, (which isn’t ours)


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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #41 on: November 03, 2017, 04:19:20 PM »
How much easier would it be to swallow Sean being the HC if he came out and fired Dimel the first day on the job?

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #42 on: November 03, 2017, 04:25:07 PM »
Ppl say that every year about venebles, but somehow he's still there.  :dunno:
sad that people like to come up with some conspiracy theory about him
like slime said, he’s happy coaching at primo schools and is waiting for the job that he wants, (which isn’t ours)
ouch
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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #43 on: November 03, 2017, 04:25:30 PM »
How much easier would it be to swallow Sean being the HC if he came out and fired Dimel the first day on the job?
throw in hayes and you got yourself a deal
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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #44 on: November 03, 2017, 04:40:03 PM »
if Sean were to become a good, not even great head coach at K-State that would be the first time in major college sports a son takes over for his dad and is successful and the first P5 football HC to be successful with only special teams experience.

So?

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #45 on: November 03, 2017, 04:53:46 PM »
if Sean were to become a good, not even great head coach at K-State that would be the first time in major college sports a son takes over for his dad and is successful and the first P5 football HC to be successful with only special teams experience.

So?

Yeah I don’t get what this has to do with anything.
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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #46 on: November 03, 2017, 04:55:56 PM »
How much easier would it be to swallow Sean being the HC if he came out and fired Dimel the first day on the job?

Honestly, the prospect is only palatable to me if he keeps Dimel because I don't have much faith in his ability to go hire quality coaches. This season has really soured me on the idea of Sean because the offense has been so bad under Dimel, but we have had pretty good offenses with him more years than not.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #47 on: November 03, 2017, 11:50:52 PM »
if Sean were to become a good, not even great head coach at K-State that would be the first time in major college sports a son takes over for his dad and is successful and the first P5 football HC to be successful with only special teams experience.

So?

Yeah I don’t get what this has to do with anything.

Not very inspiring. Doesn't make me want Sean. Can't even give him any points for it.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #48 on: November 04, 2017, 06:39:44 AM »
if Sean were to become a good, not even great head coach at K-State that would be the first time in major college sports a son takes over for his dad and is successful and the first P5 football HC to be successful with only special teams experience.

So?

I’m pointing out how stupidly unlikely he’ll be successful based on the history of coaching.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #49 on: November 04, 2017, 07:34:33 AM »
Meh, I seem to remember Tim Tibesar coaching a respectable special teams in Ron's first year.