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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #500 on: December 15, 2017, 04:54:50 PM »

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #502 on: December 24, 2017, 12:45:36 PM »
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"Sean's like a musician when it comes to special teams," Pringle, at Friday's Cactus Bowl media day, said of the 2015 National Special Teams Coordinator of the Year and one of 56 candidates for the 2017 Broyles Award, given to the nation's top assistant coach.

http://www.kstatesports.com/news/2017/12/24/football-se-special-teams-a-consistent-deep-force-for-k-state-in-2017.aspx

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #503 on: December 27, 2017, 03:47:17 PM »
THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T DO WHAT WE DID
LHC Bill Snyder closed out his 26th season as Kansas State head coach last night, coming back with four unanswered touchdowns in the second half to beat UCLA 35-17 in the Cactus Bowl.  The former Iowa assistant is godlike in Manhattan, having built the program from quite literally nothing; attendance was so low before he arrived at KSU in 1989 that the program was threatened with moving to D-IAA or disbanding altogether.  The stadium is named after his family.

With his future as coach in question due to his age, it's Snyder's family that's a bit of a problem now.  Snyder has a perpetual contract, allowing him four years on the same terms going forward.  In other words, there is no negotiation pushing the issue of Snyder's retirement.  Snyder has done nothing to put his job in jeopardy, and could not be fired even if he did -- HIS FAMILY'S NAME IS ON THE STADIUM -- and he holds the absolute right to remain in the job for as long as he wants.  And Snyder has made it clear that he wants his son to have the head job when he retires.

Sean Snyder is the Kansas State associate head coach and special teams coordinator.  He started his collegiate football career as a punter at Iowa, moved to Kansas State with his dad in 1990, and was an all-American punter for Kansas State in 1993.  He has been an assistant on staff since 1994.  Sean Snyder has never called a play, and never been a serious candidate to leave the school.  As Sam Mellinger at the Kansas City Star pointed out last month, he would not be a serious candidate to be a head coach at any other program.

The previous athletics administration tried to short circuit the Snyder succession plan by hiring then-Colorado defensive coordinator Jim Leavitt as a coach in waiting.  Leavitt's resume would make him a more obvious choice for KSU: He's a former Wildcat assistant, he essentially built the USF program from scratch, and while he's had his share of scandal, his on-field track record is excellent.  Snyder would have none of it, not because Leavitt is unqualified or deficient, but because his name isn't Snyder.  Of course, there is another former Kansas State assistant on the market who has called plenty of plays and won a few more games than Sean Snyder.  Again, there is no sign that Snyder would allow Bret Bielema to take over should he step aside.  On Signing Day last week, Snyder was noncommittal about his future, clearly indicating that he'll wait until the coaching carousel has stopped long enough that Kansas State would have no choice but to promote Sean.

LHC Bill Snyder announced Wednesday he is a definite maybe to be back at Kansas State next season.

In other words, a continuing example of how not to run a college football program on National Signing Day. Or perhaps more accurately -- a textbook example of how to take out that same program at the knees.

"I'm in the process [of deciding]," Snyder told reporters. "It will be a little bit."

The guess here is that Snyder -- the game's oldest coach -- absolutely knows whether he is coming back for a 27th season. But for reasons both petty and stubborn, he's stringing out his announcement.

Better for his agenda. Bad for K-State football. Really bad.

I'm not saying this is Iowa's situation.  For one, Brian Ferentz has now called some plays.  For another, Brian Ferentz did coach somewhere else for at least a few years.  But there is little doubt that Kirk Ferentz has the same unbreakable bargaining position as LHC Bill Snyder -- Ferentz's created more by contract than reputation, but that contract was built on twenty years of stability and success -- and the same end goal.  Frankly, the same candidates at Kansas State would likely be in play at Iowa; both Leavitt and Bielema have ties to the program, though Leavitt's are obviously not as pronounced as having a Tiger Hawk tattoo.

I asked Twitter one day earlier this month if it would be OK with Ferentz retiring in January if it meant Brian Ferentz got the job:


The most common response was something like "Sure, because at least he could be fired if he was unsuccessful."  And that seems to be where Kansas State is headed at some point in the next few years, a move not toward the best candidate but toward some semblance of accountability from a coach for the first time in years.  And man, that's an uninspired reason to make a hire.  But watch KSU closely over the next few weeks (and, if Snyder doesn't leave, the next few years), because it could be a look at our future.



https://www.goiowaawesome.com/iowa-hawkeyes-news/2017/12/2473/its-not-plagiarism-if-you-link-to-it-is-in-waiting

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #504 on: December 27, 2017, 04:31:43 PM »
THIS IS WHY YOU DON'T DO WHAT WE DID
LHC LHC Bill Snyder closed out his 26th season as Kansas State head coach last night, coming back with four unanswered touchdowns in the second half to beat UCLA 35-17 in the Cactus Bowl.  The former Iowa assistant is godlike in Manhattan, having built the program from quite literally nothing; attendance was so low before he arrived at KSU in 1989 that the program was threatened with moving to D-IAA or disbanding altogether.  The stadium is named after his family.

With his future as coach in question due to his age, it's Snyder's family that's a bit of a problem now.  Snyder has a perpetual contract, allowing him four years on the same terms going forward.  In other words, there is no negotiation pushing the issue of Snyder's retirement.  Snyder has done nothing to put his job in jeopardy, and could not be fired even if he did -- HIS FAMILY'S NAME IS ON THE STADIUM -- and he holds the absolute right to remain in the job for as long as he wants.  And Snyder has made it clear that he wants his son to have the head job when he retires.

Sean Snyder is the Kansas State associate head coach and special teams coordinator.  He started his collegiate football career as a punter at Iowa, moved to Kansas State with his dad in 1990, and was an all-American punter for Kansas State in 1993.  He has been an assistant on staff since 1994.  Sean Snyder has never called a play, and never been a serious candidate to leave the school.  As Sam Mellinger at the Kansas City Star pointed out last month, he would not be a serious candidate to be a head coach at any other program.

The previous athletics administration tried to short circuit the Snyder succession plan by hiring then-Colorado defensive coordinator Jim Leavitt as a coach in waiting.  Leavitt's resume would make him a more obvious choice for KSU: He's a former Wildcat assistant, he essentially built the USF program from scratch, and while he's had his share of scandal, his on-field track record is excellent.  Snyder would have none of it, not because Leavitt is unqualified or deficient, but because his name isn't Snyder.  Of course, there is another former Kansas State assistant on the market who has called plenty of plays and won a few more games than Sean Snyder.  Again, there is no sign that Snyder would allow Bret Bielema to take over should he step aside.  On Signing Day last week, Snyder was noncommittal about his future, clearly indicating that he'll wait until the coaching carousel has stopped long enough that Kansas State would have no choice but to promote Sean.

LHC LHC Bill Snyder announced Wednesday he is a definite maybe to be back at Kansas State next season.

In other words, a continuing example of how not to run a college football program on National Signing Day. Or perhaps more accurately -- a textbook example of how to take out that same program at the knees.

"I'm in the process [of deciding]," Snyder told reporters. "It will be a little bit."

The guess here is that Snyder -- the game's oldest coach -- absolutely knows whether he is coming back for a 27th season. But for reasons both petty and stubborn, he's stringing out his announcement.

Better for his agenda. Bad for K-State football. Really bad.

I'm not saying this is Iowa's situation.  For one, Brian Ferentz has now called some plays.  For another, Brian Ferentz did coach somewhere else for at least a few years.  But there is little doubt that Kirk Ferentz has the same unbreakable bargaining position as LHC LHC Bill Snyder -- Ferentz's created more by contract than reputation, but that contract was built on twenty years of stability and success -- and the same end goal.  Frankly, the same candidates at Kansas State would likely be in play at Iowa; both Leavitt and Bielema have ties to the program, though Leavitt's are obviously not as pronounced as having a Tiger Hawk tattoo.

I asked Twitter one day earlier this month if it would be OK with Ferentz retiring in January if it meant Brian Ferentz got the job:


The most common response was something like "Sure, because at least he could be fired if he was unsuccessful."  And that seems to be where Kansas State is headed at some point in the next few years, a move not toward the best candidate but toward some semblance of accountability from a coach for the first time in years.  And man, that's an uninspired reason to make a hire.  But watch KSU closely over the next few weeks (and, if Snyder doesn't leave, the next few years), because it could be a look at our future.



https://www.goiowaawesome.com/iowa-hawkeyes-news/2017/12/2473/its-not-plagiarism-if-you-link-to-it-is-in-waiting


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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #505 on: December 27, 2017, 04:32:27 PM »
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Snyder has a perpetual contract, allowing him four years on the same terms going forward.  In other words, there is no negotiation pushing the issue of Snyder's retirement.

Well, there is that whole issue of whether he keeps getting paid or not a little over a month from now.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #506 on: December 27, 2017, 04:47:22 PM »
That article was as accurate as it was eloquent and original.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #507 on: December 29, 2017, 10:14:40 AM »
I was at a bar the other night when Iowa Beat BC in the pinstripe bowl. A couple of Hawkeye fans were standing by the front waiting for their buddy who was closing his tab. When the buddy walks up they all point at the TV where Ferentz is getting interviewed and say that he has stepped down and is naming his son coach.

What a cruel cruel joke.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #508 on: December 29, 2017, 10:16:57 AM »
Were you at the other side?

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #509 on: December 29, 2017, 04:54:18 PM »
So, any rumors coming out about Bill staying or going?

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #510 on: December 29, 2017, 05:10:45 PM »
So, any rumors coming out about Bill staying or going?

Some.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #512 on: January 01, 2018, 07:57:37 PM »
Dave Toub, special teams coordinator for KC Chiefs (never been a DC or OC) is on the short list for next NFL head coaching hire.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #513 on: January 01, 2018, 09:20:50 PM »
Has he only worked for his dad?

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #514 on: January 01, 2018, 09:25:41 PM »
I’m assuming Pete thinks Bill is still the mastermind behind KSU special teams.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #515 on: January 01, 2018, 10:47:01 PM »
I’m assuming Pete thinks Bill is still the mastermind behind KSU special teams.

Several episodes ago on the GPC podcast, Watts and Fitz broke down the special teams duties like this:
Coordinator: Sean
Punters, kickers and snappers: Sean
Returners: Coleman
Blocking / coverage: Dimel and Fabris

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #516 on: January 01, 2018, 10:53:40 PM »
Dave Toub, special teams coordinator for KC Chiefs (never been a DC or OC) is on the short list for next NFL head coaching hire.

Interesting resume:
- Played as an OL in college
- Drafted but only made practice teams for two years
- 12 years as strength and conditioning coach for UTEP and MU
- 3 years DL coach at MU
- 3 years special teams coach for the Eagles
- 14 years special teams coordinator for Bears and Chiefs

Certainly a non-traditional resume for an NFL head coach, but has some variation to it.  Thanks for posting.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #517 on: January 11, 2018, 10:47:29 AM »
This provides some insight into how assistant hiring works and seems relevant to Sean's relative lack of contacts in the industry.

http://footballscoop.com/news/resume-means-nothing-notes-afca-graduate-assistant-career-forum/

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #519 on: January 17, 2018, 09:34:38 PM »
sad news being reported that his son Matt, 21, has died

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« Reply #520 on: January 17, 2018, 09:42:46 PM »
RIP, friend. Love you.
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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #521 on: January 17, 2018, 09:49:03 PM »
This is terrible. I feel sick.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #522 on: January 17, 2018, 09:57:05 PM »
God rough ridin' damn it you guys.
This is terrible. I feel sick.
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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #523 on: January 17, 2018, 10:22:32 PM »
i didn’t know matt and I don’t know sean, but I certainly support him and his family right now


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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #524 on: January 17, 2018, 10:35:16 PM »
This wasn't motorcycle related, was it?"