Selling strong beer in the grocery store and other easy to get to places.

[cfbandyman]

The economic/small business argument is so weird. Why should we assume anything Kansas does has been beneficial to its economy?

Decent point.  I think Kansas is good at having a lot of farmers whose crops often get piss pounded by hail/storm/drought and then the government bails them out.  We are pretty good at cashing government handouts and subsidies.

Exactly, and then they in turn bitch about everyone else getting handouts and not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps, lazy city people.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Grocery stores having better beer selection is ok, I guess. It's better than nothing. I'd rather they get wine, honestly.

[Cire]

doesn't bother me either way.


"Strong Beer" is a myth when it comes to American lagers FYI

[Rage Against the McKee]

doesn't bother me either way.


"Strong Beer" is a myth when it comes to American lagers FYI

Yeah, but a lot of beers don't come in 3.2. Allowing stronger should improve selection.

[yoga-like_abana]

Great news! 

[steve dave]

went to costco on sunday. reminded me of this thread because I bought about a full cartload of wine, liquor, and beer. costco is BITB for buying good wine cheap which is awesome because mrs. dave just hammers red as fast as I can stock it.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

The KS legislature is so asinine. I can just see the conversations of the these mouth breathers in their offices - "Look, I know we're 'Republicans' are we're supposed to favor the free market, but I know so and so who owns a liquor store and they just can't compete! Ok, ok... how about we only let the grocery stores sell slightly stronger beer, but not wine or other spirits, and let's not phase this until 2019. Done! Now let's get back to considering these 20 pieces of gun legislation while we avoid making any budget cuts."

This is the problem with only paying state legislators something like 20k a year - you end up with a collection of no-talent asshats.

[Rage Against the McKee]

The KS legislature is so asinine. I can just see the conversations of the these mouth breathers in their offices - "Look, I know we're 'Republicans' are we're supposed to favor the free market, but I know so and so who owns a liquor store and they just can't compete! Ok, ok... how about we only let the grocery stores sell slightly stronger beer, but not wine or other spirits, and let's not phase this until 2019. Done! Now let's get back to considering these 20 pieces of gun legislation while we avoid making any budget cuts."

This is the problem with only paying state legislators something like 20k a year - you end up with a collection of no-talent asshats.

If we paid them more, we'd still have the same asshats.

I think a lot of it comes down to puritanical values, really. They believe extra burdensome regulation on alcohol is fine because alcohol consumption is a sin, anyway.

[Kat Kid]

The KS legislature is so asinine. I can just see the conversations of the these mouth breathers in their offices - "Look, I know we're 'Republicans' are we're supposed to favor the free market, but I know so and so who owns a liquor store and they just can't compete! Ok, ok... how about we only let the grocery stores sell slightly stronger beer, but not wine or other spirits, and let's not phase this until 2019. Done! Now let's get back to considering these 20 pieces of gun legislation while we avoid making any budget cuts."

This is the problem with only paying state legislators something like 20k a year - you end up with a collection of no-talent asshats.

The way we sell cars in this country is due to the same Country Club/Chamber of Commerce politics.

[Phil Titola]

Liquor stores do fine in kcmo

KCMO doesn't represent the typical Kansas town economy.

I think they can both survive if the small liquor store changes their approach and I'm for grocery stores selling booze but I can see the other side of the conversation and it's not only blue morality laws.

[yoga-like_abana]

Aldi + Beer= WIN
Dillons + Beer= WIN.. honey guess what you're gonna have a crap ton of cents off at the pump because I loaded that rough ridin' fuel saver up with all the beer I bought

[star seed 7]

Should sell weed at the grocery store

[cfbandyman]

Should sell weed at the grocery store

Such a win for the grocery store. Get baked, and then buy baked goods.

[cfbandyman]

Liquor stores do fine in kcmo

KCMO doesn't represent the typical Kansas town economy.

I think they can both survive if the small liquor store changes their approach and I'm for grocery stores selling booze but I can see the other side of the conversation and it's not only blue morality laws.

KCMO isn't but all if not most of MO has it where you can buy freaking anything at a gas station as well. Not sure if that decimated mom and pop stores but it's goddamn awesome, and MO seems to be handling that part at least fine.

[Spracne]

Liquor stores do fine in kcmo

... but I can see the other side of the conversation and it's not only blue morality laws.

Please enlighten me, Phillip.

Kansas's draconian alcohol laws seem like a nightmare half-remembered to me now. I'm sorry that for many here, it's a daily reality.


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[steve dave]

fun KS fact: airlines used to have to stop serving booze when flying in KS airspace because KS is so KS'y

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

If we paid them more, we'd still have the same asshats.

Probably, I guess. But the low pay certainly reduces the pool of people who would consider running. For any smart and talented full-time professional, it's simply too much of a pay cut. So we get this collection of clowns that are typically either retired or have some marginal business they can set aside for months at a time. Generally speaking, they're not terribly bright and don' have any meaningful skin the game.

[Mrs. Gooch]

fun KS fact: airlines used to have to stop serving booze when flying in KS airspace because KS is so KS'y

But it was fine to smoke up the cabin with your cigarettes.

[Rage Against the McKee]

fun KS fact: airlines used to have to stop serving booze when flying in KS airspace because KS is so KS'y

But it was fine to smoke up the cabin with your cigarettes.

Cigarettes don't make you want to cheat on your wife, Mrs. Gooch.

[Rage Against the McKee]

If we paid them more, we'd still have the same asshats.

Probably, I guess. But the low pay certainly reduces the pool of people who would consider running. For any smart and talented full-time professional, it's simply too much of a pay cut. So we get this collection of clowns that are typically either retired or have some marginal business they can set aside for months at a time. Generally speaking, they're not terribly bright and don' have any meaningful skin the game.

I just think that to get any other demographic interested in running for state legislature, you would have to pay them so much more that it would start to actually become a budget issue. It's impossible politically to make cuts to things like education while increasing legislative salaries by millions of dollars.

[star seed 7]

I'd rather attract better teachers with higher pay

[Institutional Control]

Liquor stores do fine in kcmo

... but I can see the other side of the conversation and it's not only blue morality laws.

Please enlighten me, Phillip.

Kansas's draconian alcohol laws seem like a nightmare half-remembered to me now. I'm sorry that for many here, it's a daily reality.


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You live in Texas, right?

[pvegs]

But our Wholefoods has always had a bar and it's amazing. also they serve shopping beers so you walk in and buy some booze and there's a cup holder in your cart. it's like a bald eagle soaring in front of an american flag backdrop with van halen screaming in the background.

that's amazing. reminds me of louisiana where there are drive thru liquor stores/bar and they'll just hand you a margarita and pabst through yr car window and let you drive away

[star seed 7]

Kansas has drive thru liquor stores

[yoga-like_abana]

OT: One of the Hyvees near me now has a bar. I was very WTF when I saw it. https://www.hy-veemarketgrille.com/default.aspx

the mhk one has that too.. I don't understand it at all..