Author Topic: Fan, Wacky, trueCats will next year be fine, please cheer me up! (Read 5611 times)

catastrophe · « **Reply #25 on:** March 18, 2017, 11:46:06 AM »

I think Maurice should be a fun guy to watch. I'm not sure he'll be very good but he can make some good plays and seems to bring a lot of energy.

SdK · « **Reply #26 on:** March 18, 2017, 11:47:04 AM »

I liked that Pat Riley was in attendance yesterday. Though probably not for Wes. :(

kso_FAN · « **Reply #27 on:** March 18, 2017, 12:06:11 PM »

K-State's kenpom Big 12 stats going back to 2002. The trends for K-State defense are not good and I don't see next year getting better. I'm not sure any amount of offensive improvement can make up for it.

Tobias · « **Reply #28 on:** March 18, 2017, 12:07:33 PM »

that's a great chart

Tobias · « **Reply #29 on:** March 18, 2017, 12:09:31 PM »

lottery number is so fun to see like that

kso_FAN · « **Reply #30 on:** March 18, 2017, 12:12:02 PM »

FYI, league rank is how the Big 12 ranked compared to the others in kenpom.

Also, I remember when Lowery came with oscar they mentioned his forte as defense and being in charge of that at K-State. His teams at SIU had a similar path as K-State; his first 4 years were Top 30 defenses in kenpom and then the bottom fell out. His final year at SIU his defense ranked 199 in kenpom.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #31 on:** March 18, 2017, 12:17:57 PM »

We will suck bad, oscar will try and stave off his crap canning by firing a AC, he will still get canned.

BackPayne · « **Reply #32 on:** March 18, 2017, 12:26:37 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on March 18, 2017, 09:59:54 AM

Wade is better than DJamer

HELLHAMMER · « **Reply #33 on:** March 18, 2017, 12:49:45 PM »

Claws is no Manny Dies but a lot of people think he is going to become some sort of superstar. He's soft like chicken nuggets.

sys · « **Reply #34 on:** March 18, 2017, 12:54:27 PM »

what if we are 1.1+ on offense? how much bad defense does that cancel out? a lot, imo.

Tobias · « **Reply #35 on:** March 18, 2017, 12:57:21 PM »

what do you guys think of "play hard (on offense)"?

sys · « **Reply #36 on:** March 18, 2017, 12:58:11 PM »

they'll have to do a little better on the oboards to get to 1.1 and it wouldn't hurt if stokes turned it over less, but they're gonna efg with the best of them.

sys · « **Reply #37 on:** March 18, 2017, 12:58:36 PM »

Quote from: Tobias on March 18, 2017, 12:57:21 PM

what do you guys think of "play hard (on offense)"?

cows, cows, cows.

sys · « **Reply #38 on:** March 18, 2017, 01:08:05 PM »

imagine if we could trade stokes for wvu's carter. we'd be really good.

Tobias · « **Reply #39 on:** March 18, 2017, 01:15:50 PM »

I'm trying to think of a b12 player I like more than him and drawing a blank

Rage Against the McKee · « **Reply #40 on:** March 20, 2017, 08:35:38 AM »

Quote from: sys on March 18, 2017, 11:20:20 AM

next year could be fun to watch. the two bigs are as skilled as you can imagine for this level. brown is great. sneed can shoot. stokes can shoot. they should put some easy points on the board.

Yeah, I really don't see the team being that much worse next year. Maybe oscar will schedule a nonconfernece that isn't such a joke and actually end up back in the dance.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #41 on:** March 20, 2017, 08:49:52 AM »

Quote from: Tobias on March 18, 2017, 01:15:50 PM

I'm trying to think of a b12 player I like more than him and drawing a blank

Monte Morris?

SdK · « **Reply #42 on:** March 20, 2017, 09:43:34 AM »

This may be taboo, but I've always like Frank Mason

Tobias · « **Reply #43 on:** March 20, 2017, 09:47:05 AM »

not taboo, he's a stud

star seed 7 · « **Reply #44 on:** March 20, 2017, 09:49:04 AM »

Yeah, I always enjoy chill players like him

kslim · « **Reply #45 on:** March 20, 2017, 09:59:01 AM »

I know he got shut down the last two trips but the kid from wsu was nails yesterday

Shooter Jones · « **Reply #46 on:** March 20, 2017, 10:30:27 AM »

Honestly, simply getting a new and exciting coach would change my outlook, cause I'm on the fence, but there are some parts. I like what I think Diarra can bring to the table, possibly taking the point, but we still won't really have a point guard. Still somewhat like the rotation we can use at the guard spots. Sneed will need to step up. Wade and Maurice could be alright, but I think I'd like to see a grad transfer big come in, maybe a JUCO.

If you get a decent JUCO big, you're looking at a rotation without a single senior. New coach that instills a different culture/attitude and makes strides, and 2018-19 could be fun? If it's oscar, I see this team maybe being on the bubble of the NIT. Another NCAA tourney/bubbliesh team the year after. Who knows, tho.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #47 on:** March 20, 2017, 10:35:19 AM »

Quote from: Shooter Jones on March 20, 2017, 10:30:27 AM

Honestly, simply getting a new and exciting coach would change my outlook, cause I'm on the fence, but there are some parts. I like what I think Diarra can bring to the table, possibly taking the point, but we still won't really have a point guard. Still somewhat like the rotation we can use at the guard spots. Sneed will need to step up. Wade and Maurice could be alright, but I think I'd like to see a grad transfer big come in, maybe a JUCO.

If you get a decent JUCO big, you're looking at a rotation without a single senior. New coach that instills a different culture/attitude and makes strides, and 2018-19 could be fun? If it's oscar, I see this team maybe being on the bubble of the NIT. Another NCAA tourney/bubbliesh team the year after. Who knows, tho.

I can get behind all that, but reality is this is the oscar ceiling. Maybe in 2 years if this group of sophomores stays together, he'll get all the way to a 7 seed and win a round of 64 game. That's probably the best we can hope for.

Shooter Jones · « **Reply #48 on:** March 20, 2017, 10:50:29 AM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on March 20, 2017, 10:35:19 AM

Quote from: Shooter Jones on March 20, 2017, 10:30:27 AM
Honestly, simply getting a new and exciting coach would change my outlook, cause I'm on the fence, but there are some parts. I like what I think Diarra can bring to the table, possibly taking the point, but we still won't really have a point guard. Still somewhat like the rotation we can use at the guard spots. Sneed will need to step up. Wade and Maurice could be alright, but I think I'd like to see a grad transfer big come in, maybe a JUCO.

If you get a decent JUCO big, you're looking at a rotation without a single senior. New coach that instills a different culture/attitude and makes strides, and 2018-19 could be fun? If it's oscar, I see this team maybe being on the bubble of the NIT. Another NCAA tourney/bubbliesh team the year after. Who knows, tho.

I can get behind all that, but reality is this is the oscar ceiling. Maybe in 2 years if this group of sophomores stays together, he'll get all the way to a 7 seed and win a round of 64 game. That's probably the best we can hope for.

You're absolutely right.

Expecting more pillowy-soft non-con schedules as along as oscar is here as well, after seeing how it played out this year.

yoga-like_abana · « **Reply #49 on:** March 20, 2017, 10:53:51 AM »

Quote from: michigancat on March 18, 2017, 09:59:54 AM

Wade is better than DJamer

he's a gigantic pussy though