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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #75 on: January 20, 2017, 08:19:57 PM »
I'm going to mention this every year until I read an explanation why it's happening; voting for Clemens but not Bonds requires a real some pretty amazing reasoning. I can only think of one reason someone would do that, I have no choice but to think this until I hear something sensible.

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #76 on: January 20, 2017, 08:39:13 PM »
Bonds was an bad person to media and media are butthurt about it.


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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #77 on: January 21, 2017, 12:38:04 PM »
I'm going to mention this every year until I read an explanation why it's happening; voting for Clemens but not Bonds requires a real some pretty amazing reasoning. I can only think of one reason someone would do that, I have no choice but to think this until I hear something sensible.
I think they should both be in, but it's clearly a combination of Bonds being a legendary bad person, especially to media, and having broken one of the most hallowed records while using a substance most associated with that statistic.
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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #78 on: January 21, 2017, 09:02:41 PM »
If voters convinced themselves those are the reasons they would vote for Clemens but not Bonds, they are absolutely lying to sooth a guilty conscience. Clemens was a prick to his teammates, lied under oath to congress on national television, and won seven Cy Young Awards.

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #79 on: December 11, 2018, 10:15:03 AM »
https://www.mlb.com/news/smith-baines-elected-to-baseball-hall-of-fame/c-301623296

So Harold Baines is going to the Hall.  He was good and consistent for a long time but he's nowhere near a Hall of Fame caliber player.  At least Lee Smith was a borderline case.  I'm obviously biased as a Cubs fan but I thought he was worthy of going in.  He definitely could have gone to the Jheri Curl Hall of Fame.

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #80 on: August 03, 2019, 05:50:08 PM »
In Cooperstown today...


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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #81 on: August 03, 2019, 05:52:53 PM »
A few more...

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #82 on: August 03, 2019, 06:35:11 PM »
Want to go some day. Thanks for sharing Tom.


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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #83 on: August 04, 2019, 11:47:24 PM »
Want to go some day. Thanks for sharing Tom.


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It's insanely hard to get to, the payoff is crap.

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #84 on: August 05, 2019, 01:46:22 PM »
ommegang might help

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #85 on: August 06, 2019, 02:02:16 PM »
Want to go some day. Thanks for sharing Tom.


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It's insanely hard to get to, the payoff is crap.
Why is it hard to get to? Just hard to fly to Albany + a bit of a drive?
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« Reply #86 on: August 07, 2019, 09:25:09 PM »
Want to go some day. Thanks for sharing Tom.


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It's insanely hard to get to, the payoff is crap.

fly to Albany

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My wife is from Ithaca and we went when we lived in Boston so it was as easy for us as it would be for anyone not living locally. Even staying upstate it was a four hour round trip, awful drive btw, western Kansas with curves, for about a 2-3 hour visit, could be longer depending on how many busts you want to read. There was no place to eat, no place to sleep. I enjoyed the visit enough, they had a cool Red Sox World Series display, but I likely won't go back. I also have zero affinity for baseball before the mid to late 80's, so that also may cloud how I viewed the experience.

The basketball hall of fame is by far the best, the football is by far the worst. It isn't as much of a pain in the ass as Cooperstown but holy hell it's dull. I haven't been to the hockey hall of fame yet but I've heard it's the best. Negro Leagues museum is really good, never been to the CBE. The old college football hof was crap, the new one is small but fun, completely interactive.

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #87 on: January 26, 2022, 10:24:33 AM »
The Hall of Fame should be renamed to Hall of Guys We Like.

https://www.mlb.com/news/baseball-hall-of-fame-2022-voting 

Big Papi got in, Bonds and Clemens had nearly identical vote totals but came up short.  Terrible.  Maybe the Veterans Committee can get them in someday.

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #88 on: January 26, 2022, 12:43:19 PM »
They made their beds

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #89 on: January 26, 2022, 01:00:03 PM »
They made their beds

How so? I don't recall Clemens and Bonds testing positive for a banned substance, maybe I "misremember" that happening.

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #90 on: January 26, 2022, 01:23:51 PM »
They made their beds

How so? I don't recall Clemens and Bonds testing positive for a banned substance, maybe I "misremember" that happening.

Yeah, but you JUST KNOW they and everyone else were doing it.

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #91 on: January 26, 2022, 01:32:50 PM »
The Baseball HOF is largely a museum and the 'roid people are integral to telling the story of baseball.  If you don't want their numbers to count, have rules in place to catch them and prevent them from putting up the numbers.  Keeping them out of the HOF is trying to sanitize the history of baseball.  Part of the history is the era where MLB didn't do anything about steroids.

BBWA are a bunch of sanctimonious nerds.

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #92 on: January 26, 2022, 02:07:36 PM »
journalists in general should not be allowed to vote for anything. You want to vote for mayor? With the decisions you’ve made with your own life? I don’t think so bud.

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #93 on: January 26, 2022, 03:49:59 PM »
They made their beds

How so? I don't recall Clemens and Bonds testing positive for a banned substance, maybe I "misremember" that happening.
Outside of juicing their brains out.

Being outrageous assholes

Both choices they made. FAFO


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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #94 on: January 26, 2022, 04:29:21 PM »
They made their beds

How so? I don't recall Clemens and Bonds testing positive for a banned substance, maybe I "misremember" that happening.
Outside of juicing their brains out.

Being outrageous assholes

Both choices they made. FAFO


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There are lots of performance enhancing users and lots of assholes in the baseball hall of fame. Maybe the focus should be on the seeming selective sanctimony of the bbwaa

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #95 on: January 26, 2022, 04:37:15 PM »
IMHO David Ortiz only getting 77% is a travesty and a testament that the voters are not only sanctimonious dick bags, but they're also largely uninformed morons.

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Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #96 on: January 26, 2022, 04:40:05 PM »
Remember when one guy didn’t vote for Nolan Ryan on his first ballot? lmao.


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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #97 on: January 26, 2022, 04:47:03 PM »
They made their beds

How so? I don't recall Clemens and Bonds testing positive for a banned substance, maybe I "misremember" that happening.
Outside of juicing their brains out.

Being outrageous assholes

Both choices they made. FAFO


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There are lots of performance enhancing users and lots of assholes in the baseball hall of fame. Maybe the focus should be on the seeming selective sanctimony of the bbwaa
Like I said. Everyone  has choices. So do voters

Change the system?  Great!


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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #98 on: January 26, 2022, 05:08:19 PM »
Remember when one guy didn’t vote for Nolan Ryan on his first ballot? lmao.



A closer is the only unanimous selection :ROFL:

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Re: Baseball Hall of Fame Thread (assuming no predecessor to it)
« Reply #99 on: January 26, 2022, 05:58:06 PM »
Barry Bonds belongs in the hall of fame and anyone who feels differently can meet me at the Ernie Barrett statue for their ass whipping.
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