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Congrats Elijah! Get paid!

[MakeItRain]

Wow. 7th round. His choice has cost him a lot of dough. Still cannot believe he declared.

It did? How? I'm confused.

[LeggoKatZ]

Wow. 7th round. His choice has cost him a lot of dough. Still cannot believe he declared.

It did? How? I'm confused.

I think he's saying if Elijah had stayed for his Senior year he could have been drafted in a earlier round next year & earned more money.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Burton - ATL
Moore - SD
Barnett - DEN

signed FA deals

[BackPayne]

Wow. 7th round. His choice has cost him a lot of dough. Still cannot believe he declared.

It did? How? I'm confused.

I think he's saying if Elijah had stayed for his Senior year he could have been drafted in a earlier round next year & earned more money.

Exactly. If he stuck around and had another great year his draft stock would have went way up. Sadly he was told he would be drafted in 3rd-5th rounds.

[TheHamburglar]

Wow. 7th round. His choice has cost him a lot of dough. Still cannot believe he declared.

It did? How? I'm confused.

I think he's saying if Elijah had stayed for his Senior year he could have been drafted in a earlier round next year & earned more money.

Exactly. If he stuck around and had another great year his draft stock would have went way up. Sadly he was told he would be drafted in 3rd-5th rounds.

Or he could have got hurt, went undrafted, and had to have tried to make a team as an UDFA recovering from an injury.

When it comes to making risk based decisions that involve six figures and potential major injuries, I have no idea how anyone can have any opinion on what someone else decides is best for them.

[MakeItRain]

Wow. 7th round. His choice has cost him a lot of dough. Still cannot believe he declared.

It did? How? I'm confused.

I think he's saying if Elijah had stayed for his Senior year he could have been drafted in a earlier round next year & earned more money.

Exactly. If he stuck around and had another great year his draft stock would have went way up. Sadly he was told he would be drafted in 3rd-5th rounds.

IF

He declared early because he wanted to get drafted into the NFL, that's exactly what happened. There are no guarantees. Hamburglar talked about the things that could easily go wrong but things could go fine for him and his fortunes aren't guaranteed to get better. Desmond King won the Thorpe award in 2015, he had a late first round-second round grade. He came back for his senior year this past season; didn't get in trouble, didn't get hurt. His senior year he was first team all big 10, he fell to the 5th round.

Besides all of this, as far as his professional aspirations go, there is no difference between a 5th round grade and a 7th round selection. He's a professional football player, if he didn't declare he'd still be playing for free.

[troubledscribe]

I doubt we have many players leave early again.

[MakeItRain]

Whyisthat?

[Belvis Noland]

Seems like draft position is a pretty relevant factor to consider.  While no difference between 5th and 7th rounds, there's a pretty monumental $$$ difference between 2/3 round and 7th round.  Pretty safe to say he didn't see himself as a 7th rounder.  Might be why he tweeted yesterday "Not how I pictured it going but I am ready to get to work."

Who knows whether he would have stayed another year if he knew he'd go in the 7th.   

 

[MakeItRain]

Seems like draft position is a pretty relevant factor to consider.  While no difference between 5th and 7th rounds, there's a pretty monumental $$$ difference between 2/3 round and 7th round.  Pretty safe to say he didn't see himself as a 7th rounder.  Might be why he tweeted yesterday "Not how I pictured it going but I am ready to get to work."

Who knows whether he would have stayed another year if he knew he'd go in the 7th.   

 

I'm going to assume his larger goal was to become a professional football player, besides there really isn't much of a money difference between the 3rd and the 7th round, just the signing bonus, but the overall money for the first contract is nearly identical.

http://www.businessinsider.com/nfl-draft-contract-values-2017-4

Also if he was a 7th rounder this season I'm not sure what he could have done to jump 5 rounds next year. These things don't look like things that would have mysteriously vanished between his third and fourth year of college football.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/elijah-lee?id=2558121

[420seriouscat69]

do, but it's disappointing no matter how you shake it. Hope he blows up and makes the team. Definitely not a guarantee. I'd hate to see him without a degree and a team.


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[Belvis Noland]

Also if he was a 7th rounder this season I'm not sure what he could have done to jump 5 rounds next year.

You may be right - obvs no way to know.  But, Willis is a pretty good example of how an extra year can sometimes help a player.  As a junior, I'm not sure how many people projected Willis as 2nd/3rd round talent.  Many "experts" prob wouldn't' have projected him as NFL talent, period.  But, he had a monster senior season with a good combine performance.  But, like you said, on the flipside, a season-ending injury may have prevented Lee from being drafted at all.  so, who knows. 

[wetwillie]

We just got two 3 star KC area recruits drafted to the NFL you guys.   

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As far as I understand it, the nfl doesn't "slot" or mandate guaranteed contracts, so I the only relevance of the round you're drafted in is comparative value.

Like, you can get cut and make zero money as a 1st overall, 7th rounder or ufa.

[MakeItRain]

As far as I understand it, the nfl doesn't "slot" or mandate guaranteed contracts, so I the only relevance of the round you're drafted in is comparative value.

Like, you can get cut and make zero money as a 1st overall, 7th rounder or ufa.

That's pretty much correct, but your pretty much not going to get cut as a first rounder as you're likely to get a seven figure signing bonus.

[Belvis Noland]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.sportingnews.com/amp/nfl/news/nfl-draft-2017-picks-salary-earnings-money-contracts-slides-falls-amount-paid/qwzy3vcw847c1ap2mozdkk0jv

There are guaranteed contracts for 1st and 2nd rounders. After that, no guarantees.

[SPEmaw]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000804666/article/2017-nfl-draft-28-of-95-early-entry-prospects-go-undrafted

Should early entrants be allowed to return to college if they go undrafted (and prefer not to go the UFA route)?

[420seriouscat69]

I just hope he makes the roster. I'd hate to see him without a team and a degree.

[Yard Dog]

I just hope he makes the roster. I'd hate to see him without a team and a degree.

Couldn't he come back to KState in the spring as a student if he didnt make the roster? Or transfer his earned credits to another university?

I don't think your academics become null if you enter the draft.

[420seriouscat69]

Yeah, but it was free before, now it's not. I was just saying, that's the risk you take.

[ChiComCat]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000804666/article/2017-nfl-draft-28-of-95-early-entry-prospects-go-undrafted

Should early entrants be allowed to return to college if they go undrafted (and prefer not to go the UFA route)?

I get the agent stuff but it still seems needlessly punitive. 

[Yard Dog]

I think the fear ends up being that so many players would enter the draft it would dilute the product. It also ends up being a bit of a recruitment gamble/nightmare for coaches not knowing if a large chunk of their roster will be back next year or not. Which directly effects new recruits coming in and probably damages the juco recruiting the most. I could see a lot of jucos being recruited to fill a spot, the player doesn't get drafted and comes back, and then those jucos either have to transfer or never see the field.

[DOD Take 2]

Yeah, but it was free before, now it's not. I was just saying, that's the risk you take.

I'm pretty sure they allow schools to cover tuition for athletes that decide to come back and finish degrees. I don't know if K-State offers that for players but I do believe the NCAA now allows that.

[TownieCat]

Yeah, but it was free before, now it's not. I was just saying, that's the risk you take.

I'm pretty sure they allow schools to cover tuition for athletes that decide to come back and finish degrees. I don't know if K-State offers that for players but I do believe the NCAA now allows that.

http://www.kstatesports.com/page/athleteservices-secondwind