"Obamacare"

[SdK]

My doctors name is Priti. I chose her based on this.

[Emo EMAW]

i could really care less who my doctor is

i mean if i was super sick maybe

You could care less or you couldn't care less? 

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

Aetna CEO: Obamacare in "death spiral"

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/health/humana-plans-to-pull-out-of-obamacares-insurance-exchanges.html

Well there you have it. I don't think anyone can seriously argue at this point that Obamacare is a colossal failure. The GOP needs to get their crap together and make some hard choices pronto. Will they? 

[ednksu]

I don't think anyone can seriously argue at this point that Obamacare is a colossal failure.

I agree. It's clear that insurance companies have colluded to make this law suffer all for their own fleecing of the American public.  Sad that people are too stupid to realize how the Republicans have sold us out.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

I don't think anyone can seriously argue at this point that Obamacare is a colossal failure.

I agree. It's clear that insurance companies have colluded to make this law suffer all for their own fleecing of the American public.  Sad that people are too stupid to realize how the Republicans have sold us out.

Cant tell if this is serious or a joke. You realize that Obama "colluded" with the insurance companies to help get Obamacare passed in the first place? The insurers were banking on more younger, healthier people signing up or, if not, being bailed out with tax dollars. So I guess you can blame those younger, healthier people for not signing up in sufficient numbers, or the GOP for refusing to continue bailing them out? Regardless, it was a crap law reaching a predictably crap end.

But hey, now liberals can play politics by making the GOP own the cleanup effort!

[Dr Rick Daris]

It was working pretty well with obama as president. I'm not really shocked that it's starting to fail under a republican president. Sad really.

[ednksu]

I don't think anyone can seriously argue at this point that Obamacare is a colossal failure.

I agree. It's clear that insurance companies have colluded to make this law suffer all for their own fleecing of the American public.  Sad that people are too stupid to realize how the Republicans have sold us out.

Cant tell if this is serious or a joke. You realize that Obama "colluded" with the insurance companies to help get Obamacare passed in the first place? The insurers were banking on more younger, healthier people signing up or, if not, being bailed out with tax dollars. So I guess you can blame those younger, healthier people for not signing up in sufficient numbers, or the GOP for refusing to continue bailing them out? Regardless, it was a crap law reaching a predictably crap end.

But hey, now liberals can play politics by making the GOP own the cleanup effort!

I think you should look into why the ACA is having trouble.  Yes they needed more people to sign up.  But ultimately allowing insurance companies to run risk pools and them pushing the worst cases to certain ACA plans and making them tank, and then throwing a hissy fit over the 80% premium rule has killed things faster then the politics on the Hill.

[Emo EMAW]

It was working pretty well with obama as president.

Interesting if true.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

It was working pretty well with obama as president. I'm not really shocked that it's starting to fail under a republican president. Sad really.

 

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

It was working pretty well with obama as president. I'm not really shocked that it's starting to fail under a republican president. Sad really.

  OMG!

[AbeFroman]

Still waiting on that repeal and replace. Been waiting on a repub plan for 7 years tbh

[LickNeckey]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/02/16/ryan-gop-introduce-obamacare-repeal-replace-bill-after-break/97994214/

After 8 years they are just weeks away from revealing the answer.

ANTICIPATION BUILDING!!!!!

 

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/02/16/ryan-gop-introduce-obamacare-repeal-replace-bill-after-break/97994214/

After 8 years they are just weeks away from revealing the answer.

ANTICIPATION BUILDING!!!!!

 

  I am VERY confident the GOP is not going to totally eff this up. 

[Kat Kid]

The Republicans trying to repeal are morally repugnant AND dumb.

https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/834536789020962821

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

The Republicans trying to repeal are morally repugnant AND dumb.

https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/834536789020962821

Yeah you realize that is in comparison to the bullshit CBO scoring of Obamacare that was predicated on cutting a bunch of Medicare spending that was never going to happen right?

[Kat Kid]

The Republicans trying to repeal are morally repugnant AND dumb.

https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/834536789020962821

Yeah you realize that is in comparison to the bullshit CBO scoring of Obamacare that was predicated on cutting a bunch of Medicare spending that was never going to happen right?

Republicans have told people that Obamacare is awful, that they can replace it with something that is cheaper and provides better coverage.

They can't so they are bullshitting around.


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[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

The Republicans trying to repeal are morally repugnant AND dumb.

https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/834536789020962821

Yeah you realize that is in comparison to the bullshit CBO scoring of Obamacare that was predicated on cutting a bunch of Medicare spending that was never going to happen right?

Republicans have told people that Obamacare is awful, that they can replace it with something that is cheaper and provides better coverage.

They can't so they are bullshitting around.


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1. Obamacare is awful. 2. Republicans can replace it with something cheaper and better. What we had before Obamacare was cheaper and better for the vast majority of Americans. The trick with undoing a welfare program is that the GOP doesn't want to pull the rug out from under the 10 million or so who are now on Medicaid or a private policy thanks to Obamacare - at the expense of everyone else. That's where the expense comes in. But if you supported the creation of Obamacare you don't get an opinion. Sit down and shut up.

[ednksu]

LOL

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Repealing obamacare would be cheaper, source the cbo 7 years ago, common sense.

Obamacare sucks balls, source the last 4 general elections and everyone on it who has actually tried to go to the doctor.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

The Republicans trying to repeal are morally repugnant AND dumb.

https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/834536789020962821

Yeah you realize that is in comparison to the bullshit CBO scoring of Obamacare that was predicated on cutting a bunch of Medicare spending that was never going to happen right?

Republicans have told people that Obamacare is awful, that they can replace it with something that is cheaper and provides better coverage.

They can't so they are bullshitting around.


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You're taking some really whackadoodle positions today, what gives?

[catastrophe]

This is what happens when things get too politicized.  You either just leave it to the private sector (which has led to some pretty ridiculous results), or you basically expand medicare to include pretty much everyone.  People don't like the individual mandate but they like no preexisting conditions, so politicians just try to come up with some crap that makes no sense.

[Stellarcat]

Repealing obamacare would be cheaper, source the cbo 7 years ago, common sense.

Obamacare sucks balls, source the last 4 general elections and everyone on it who has actually tried to go to the doctor.

I have Obamacare and have had no problems.  I see the same doctor I did when I had coverage through my job. 

[Emo EMAW]

Repealing obamacare would be cheaper, source the cbo 7 years ago, common sense.

Obamacare sucks balls, source the last 4 general elections and everyone on it who has actually tried to go to the doctor.

I have Obamacare and have had no problems.  I see the same doctor I did when I had coverage through my job.

Well crap if it works for you must work for errrrbody.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Must have had a really shitty plan through work.

None of the poors on obamacare can even begin to afford the $6000-12,000 annual deductible. It's a terrible high deductible plan that used to cost like $85 p/mo, that these poor souls have to pay several hundred a month for.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

This is what happens when things get too politicized.  You either just leave it to the private sector (which has led to some pretty ridiculous results), or you basically expand medicare to include pretty much everyone.  People don't like the individual mandate but they like no preexisting conditions, so politicians just try to come up with some crap that makes no sense.

Agree this is more a political problem than a policy problem. In my opinion, the policy is pretty easy - don't make health insurance more expensive and worse coverage for the vast majority of Americans in order to extend welfare to a few million people. Politically hard to take that welfare away.

Also, you shouldn't assume that we had a "private sector" insurance market prior to Obamacare. The regulations and mandates imposed by federal and state governments (e.g., minimum coverage mandates) seriously distorted the efficiency we would normally expect of a free market leading to those "pretty ridiculous results."