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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #26100 on: May 29, 2015, 06:52:26 PM »
Texas will never play second fiddle to A&M in anything. Under Armor is about to drop a brinks truck of money off on UT's front door.

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« Reply #26101 on: May 29, 2015, 06:57:45 PM »
Yeah, kick his ass ben ji.  LOL @ CTC.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #26102 on: May 29, 2015, 09:00:58 PM »

Texas will never play second fiddle to A&M in anything. Under Armor is about to drop a brinks truck of money off on UT's front door.

I don't know.  Under Armor?  Doesn't seem big timey enough for UT.

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« Reply #26103 on: May 29, 2015, 09:16:23 PM »
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Big 12 officially distributing $252 million, or an avg of $25.2/school. With TCU/WVU still getting partial shares, the Cats should get around $26 to $26.5 million

The Big 12 was 2nd in per school distr last year behind the Big 10. Now the SEC has pushed ahead as well, giving out $31 per school. We don't yet know the PAC or ACC numbers.

I'm concerned at how quickly we fell behind the big boy conferences. How do Tex and OU react to this?

When you add up our T3, I think we end up making more than SEC schools.

At the very least, UT, OU, and KU make more than all of them.

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« Reply #26104 on: May 29, 2015, 09:21:27 PM »
Like any good organization, UT can and should take the most favorable deal.  It's not like UA would demand to change their branding. Only a losery school would make an apparel deal with hopes that the brand would elevate the prestige of the school, rather than the other way around.

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« Reply #26105 on: May 29, 2015, 10:13:46 PM »
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Big 12 officially distributing $252 million, or an avg of $25.2/school. With TCU/WVU still getting partial shares, the Cats should get around $26 to $26.5 million

The Big 12 was 2nd in per school distr last year behind the Big 10. Now the SEC has pushed ahead as well, giving out $31 per school. We don't yet know the PAC or ACC numbers.

I'm concerned at how quickly we fell behind the big boy conferences. How do Tex and OU react to this?

When you add up our T3, I think we end up making more than SEC schools.

At the very least, UT, OU, and KU make more than all of them.

No way (for us, anyway). Our total Tier 3 contract with Learfield is about $5 million and it includes Bball noncon, coaches shows, radio network and other rights. Optimistically, assume $4 mil of that is Tier 3 TV. That puts us close to $30 mil overall, a little behind the SEC's $31 mil. But last year, we were well ahead of all of the SEC schools... at this rate, they'll leave us in the dust within another year or so.

Texas has some more cushion with LHN. OU & KU have some good Tier 3 TV deals, so they are somewhere between us and Texas and probably about even with the SEC. Everyone else is in the same boat as us.

But the SEC is going to continue to get more and more money from their network, and the Big Ten is about to renegotiate its expiring Tier 1 contract. Those two conf are on the verge of blowing everyone else away very soon.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #26106 on: May 30, 2015, 02:53:00 AM »
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Big 12 officially distributing $252 million, or an avg of $25.2/school. With TCU/WVU still getting partial shares, the Cats should get around $26 to $26.5 million

The Big 12 was 2nd in per school distr last year behind the Big 10. Now the SEC has pushed ahead as well, giving out $31 per school. We don't yet know the PAC or ACC numbers.

I'm concerned at how quickly we fell behind the big boy conferences. How do Tex and OU react to this?

When you add up our T3, I think we end up making more than SEC schools.

At the very least, UT, OU, and KU make more than all of them.

No way (for us, anyway). Our total Tier 3 contract with Learfield is about $5 million and it includes Bball noncon, coaches shows, radio network and other rights. Optimistically, assume $4 mil of that is Tier 3 TV. That puts us close to $30 mil overall, a little behind the SEC's $31 mil. But last year, we were well ahead of all of the SEC schools... at this rate, they'll leave us in the dust within another year or so.

Texas has some more cushion with LHN. OU & KU have some good Tier 3 TV deals, so they are somewhere between us and Texas and probably about even with the SEC. Everyone else is in the same boat as us.

But the SEC is going to continue to get more and more money from their network, and the Big Ten is about to renegotiate its expiring Tier 1 contract. Those two conf are on the verge of blowing everyone else away very soon.

That assumes the current cable model remains the status quo.

And we could gain some additional money by staging a title game.

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« Reply #26107 on: May 30, 2015, 05:47:58 AM »
I do not want a title game.  Good grief that would really cap off the "one true champion" mantra and explode it all over everything in a giant stupid bomb.

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« Reply #26108 on: May 30, 2015, 06:03:13 AM »
Remind me why there isn't a big 12 cable channel?

I have a PAC 12 channel, a big 10 channel, and a SEC Network, but no Big 12 Channel. I can turn on channel 2200-somethin and watch CU play WSU in ultimate Frisbee at any given moment, but I can't watch ISU lose to Kent State in football.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #26109 on: May 30, 2015, 07:05:21 AM »


Remind me why there isn't a big 12 cable channel?

I have a PAC 12 channel, a big 10 channel, and a SEC Network, but no Big 12 Channel. I can turn on channel 2200-somethin and watch CU play WSU in ultimate Frisbee at any given moment, but I can't watch ISU lose to Kent State in football.

A few reasons... It wouldn't include Texas because of LHN. It would be tough to generate enough content with only 9 schools, especially with so many games on our 1st and 2nd tier deals. The conferences you mentioned all have a lot more teams so they need those networks to broadcast everything, especially football and men's bb.

Also, there aren't enough big markets in the Big 12 footprint. With the exception of OKC and KC they're all in Texas too. Without UT it'd be a tough a sell.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #26110 on: May 30, 2015, 10:00:41 AM »
 Re market: as mentioned above, I have the PAC, SEC and big 10 channels and live in none of those markets. So, to say we're contained by tv markets makes no sense.

Re content: I have a cable channel that plays cops 24 hours per day, another that plays a show about finding houses in Canada 24 hours per day, and another that plays shows dedicated to aliens in history.  The threshold is extremely low.

I'm guessing the MVC will have a channel before we get one
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #26111 on: May 30, 2015, 10:51:53 AM »

Texas will never play second fiddle to A&M in anything. Under Armor is about to drop a brinks truck of money off on UT's front door.

I don't know.  Under Armor?  Doesn't seem big timey enough for UT.
15 million a year from UA is big time enough.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #26112 on: May 30, 2015, 10:52:47 AM »
I would be very disappointed in texas
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #26113 on: May 30, 2015, 11:05:14 AM »

Texas will never play second fiddle to A&M in anything. Under Armor is about to drop a brinks truck of money off on UT's front door.

I don't know.  Under Armor?  Doesn't seem big timey enough for UT.
15 million a year from UA is big time enough.
UA is killing it right now. They're second to Nike in revenue over the last year. UA is not small timey at all. Also, Spieth (UA's sponsor) played for Texas, so it makes sense.

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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #26114 on: May 30, 2015, 11:09:54 AM »
I do not want a title game.  Good grief that would really cap off the "one true champion" mantra and explode it all over everything in a giant stupid bomb.

Regardless of whether or not it's something we should do, it's a significant thing that isn't being monetized.

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« Reply #26115 on: May 30, 2015, 11:10:24 AM »

Texas will never play second fiddle to A&M in anything. Under Armor is about to drop a brinks truck of money off on UT's front door.

I don't know.  Under Armor?  Doesn't seem big timey enough for UT.
15 million a year from UA is big time enough.
UA is killing it right now. They're second to Nike in revenue over the last year. UA is not small timey at all. Also, Spieth (UA's sponsor) played for Texas, so it makes sense.
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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #26116 on: May 30, 2015, 11:23:52 AM »
Remind me why there isn't a big 12 cable channel?

I have a PAC 12 channel, a big 10 channel, and a SEC Network, but no Big 12 Channel. I can turn on channel 2200-somethin and watch CU play WSU in ultimate Frisbee at any given moment, but I can't watch ISU lose to Kent State in football.
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« Reply #26117 on: May 30, 2015, 01:24:05 PM »
Remind me why there isn't a big 12 cable channel?

I have a PAC 12 channel, a big 10 channel, and a SEC Network, but no Big 12 Channel. I can turn on channel 2200-somethin and watch CU play WSU in ultimate Frisbee at any given moment, but I can't watch ISU lose to Kent State in football.
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« Reply #26118 on: May 31, 2015, 10:43:33 AM »
Good read on the conference payouts. As pan said previously, We're pretty much on par with the SEC per this guy's analysis.

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« Reply #26119 on: May 31, 2015, 12:21:38 PM »

Texas will never play second fiddle to A&M in anything. Under Armor is about to drop a brinks truck of money off on UT's front door.

I don't know.  Under Armor?  Doesn't seem big timey enough for UT.

i think you are underestimating how much 5-18 yr olds like UA.

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« Reply #26120 on: May 31, 2015, 01:57:22 PM »

Texas will never play second fiddle to A&M in anything. Under Armor is about to drop a brinks truck of money off on UT's front door.

I don't know.  Under Armor?  Doesn't seem big timey enough for UT.

i think you are underestimating how much 5-18 yr olds like UA.

At every kids birthday party I've gone to in the past nine months, and every school function, I've seen UA stuff on kids at a 2-1 clip compared to all other brands combined.

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« Reply #26121 on: May 31, 2015, 02:05:35 PM »

Texas will never play second fiddle to A&M in anything. Under Armor is about to drop a brinks truck of money off on UT's front door.

I don't know.  Under Armor?  Doesn't seem big timey enough for UT.

I just spent 60$ for a set of 4 superhero themed UA shirts at TJ Maxx
i think you are underestimating how much 5-18 yr olds like UA.
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« Reply #26122 on: May 31, 2015, 02:36:02 PM »
Sounds like 5-18 yr olds have horrible taste
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« Reply #26123 on: May 31, 2015, 05:49:05 PM »

Texas will never play second fiddle to A&M in anything. Under Armor is about to drop a brinks truck of money off on UT's front door.

I don't know.  Under Armor?  Doesn't seem big timey enough for UT.

I just spent 60$ for a set of 4 superhero themed UA shirts at TJ Maxx
i think you are underestimating how much 5-18 yr olds like UA.

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« Reply #26124 on: May 31, 2015, 06:19:10 PM »
Sounds like 5-18 yr olds have horrible taste

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