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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #17075 on: July 22, 2014, 04:37:53 PM »
If he's going to Iowa State, he sucks and Klein probably told him as much.

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« Reply #17076 on: July 22, 2014, 05:55:59 PM »
If he's going to Iowa State, he sucks and Klein probably told him as much.

Klein probably walked into his first meeting with him, head butted him, dude went down and Klein turned around and walked out.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #17077 on: July 22, 2014, 06:20:10 PM »
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Isaiah Zuber and Duke Shelley just dropped by the office, along with parents, during some down time to their unofficial visit.

A few things I took away...


Zuber is much bigger than the 6-feet Rivals lists him at. Maybe it was just how long he was that was throwing my perception off, but I'd guess he's at least 6'1" if not 6'2".
Shelley seemed more impressed by K-State than I expected. For a guy being courted by Clemson, Wisconsin, Tennessee, and others, he flat out said how much he liked the K-State and was looking forward to an official this fall.
From the sounds of things, USF and Utah are in hard on Zuber still but he didn't seem phased by the continued attention. He was decked out in a K-State shirt and seemed excited by what he watched offensively in 7-on-7 drills during the visit. While he mentioned that Manhattan was "different" than back home, I think the program has him locked and the coaching staff has him and his mother sold.
As for Shelley, he says he's looking to trim his list by the end of the summer in order to set up officials. After today, I'd be shocked if K-State wasn't one of those. He and Zuber were already eyeing the Oklahoma State game as a possibility.
Both guys were very cordial and were looking forward to spending their last night in town with a few players they've gotten to know: Deante Burton and Dante Barnett.
I look forward to speaking with both of them once they get back home later in the week, but this combo appears like a very legitimate package for the Wildcats.
You know what to do, Burton & Barnett. You know what to do! :thumbsup:

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #17078 on: July 23, 2014, 03:32:36 PM »
From ESPN Insider

Big 12 coaches sound off on recruiting
JULY 23, 2014 11:00:58 AM PDT
By Damon Sayles

DALLAS -- Winning football games holds top billing in most cases, but when discussing the most important objective to college football coaches, a great recruiting class is always high on the totem pole.

The Big 12 media days on Monday and Tuesday gave coaches a chance to share their opinions on their teams, their competitors and the future of college football. It also allowed each coach to talk about the positives and negatives of recruiting.

All 10 conference head coaches were asked the same question: "What's the hardest part about recruiting players to the Big 12?" Here are their answers, honest and unfiltered.

Art Briles, Baylor

"I think getting kids to stay in state would be the No. 1 thing I'm looking at. If I find out that new girl moves in, and all of a sudden, she looks as good or better than the one you've been walking down the hall the last year and a half … and then, let her be there a year and a half, and she may not look that much better. A lot of times, when something new comes along -- like an out-of-state school -- you're thinking, 'That might be nice.' What's nice is having mama, daddy and all your kinfolks able to drive and watch you play every weekend. At the end of the day, it's about F-A-M-I-L-Y, and that's what we've got."   :horrorsurprise: :dubious: :shakesfist: :curse:

Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State

"I think it's the limitations we have and the ability to observe and get to know the players. We're so limited in our contacts and the amount of times we actually get to see them play live. You always worry about who you bring into your program. I think that's the biggest concern for us; we'd like to have more access to really get to know them as a person and player, more than we really do."

Dana Holgorsen, West Virginia

"The Big 12's actually helped our recruiting. It goes back to when I was hired by Oliver [Luck]; there was an interest to try and bring some kids from Texas. Once we got into the Big 12, it wasn't regional anymore. The Big East was regional. It felt regional, the TV coverage was regional, it didn't have the national flair that the Big 12 has. Once we got into the Big 12, we're more recognizable now than we ever have been, not only with guys who are around the surrounding state of West Virginia but also on the east coast and in Florida. We can recruit junior colleges on a national level. They've seen Big 12 football games. We have to compete the best of the best in order to compete in the Big 12, and the Big 12 is definitely up there."

Kliff Kingsbury, Texas Tech

"Everybody's recruiting the same guys now. It used to be a couple of schools recruiting the top guys. Now you've got six or seven teams that all have a legit shot of getting a top prospect. There are so many good players in the state, but everybody's going to find their way in. You've got to be good at targeting who you want and make sure you get him."

Gary Patterson, TCU

"We've always recruited well against everyone in the Big 12, even when we weren't here. Out of the amount of scholarships we have, we only have a couple left. We were ranked in the top 25 in most recruiting polls. There's a lot of great players in this area who are good people and do good things, and we're looking for that. We've just got to go out and prove to people that we can win in the conference. When that happens, I think the sky's the limit for TCU. Hopefully it's this year. If not, we're building the foundation to get where we need to get to."

Paul Rhoads, Iowa State

"Recruiting is very challenging. Arguably, at the two biggest traditional programs I've been -- Ohio State and Auburn -- recruiting was hard there, too. There are challenges everywhere you go in recruiting. We have more of them in Ames, Iowa, and Iowa State than most folks. We're in a state that produces 8-10 Division I players a year, on a good year, and very rarely are there any defensive linemen. There's not a ton of speed in our state. Now you spread out your fingers and go elsewhere. You get to Florida or Texas or places like that, and they can't necessarily find Iowa on a national atlas, so you've got to educate them and get as much in front of them that you can and work hard to get them on your campus. That's the hardest job in the whole process. [Also,] getting the young man to our campus. Once we do that, we have a pretty good product to sell, whether it be facilities or people or philosophy or whatever it is."

LHC LHC Bill Snyder, Kansas State

"I don't know if there's anything extremely difficult:emawkid: Because of the social media venue, you really can have contact anywhere in the country. More and more people probably are looking into the Midwest, Texas and the southeastern conferences, and everybody can get everywhere right now if you have [a cellphone]. Consequently, that probably would make it more difficult because you're not isolated in recruiting."

Bob Stoops, Oklahoma

"We've got a great recruiting base around the area. I just read something someone put in front of me [that] in the last five years of the NFL draft, we're ranked No. 3, tied for third, with the number of draft picks, so we must be recruiting pretty well."

Charlie Strong, Texas

"Recruiting is a yearlong process. The great thing about it is signing day is not until February. But you always want to build the relationship with high school coaches because that's where it all starts at. And we have outstanding coaches within the state, and we will continue to build those relationships. Our coaches have broken down, and each one of them has a part of this state. They know just how critical it is to go recruit the top players and get them into our program."

Charlie Weis, Kansas

"I don't think there's anything hard about recruiting to the Big 12. I think for me, personally, the toughest thing I do in recruiting is getting a guy past the stigma of ‘Kansas.' Once we get them on campus, I think the chance of getting them is very high. Losing: That's what the stigma is. We had a recruiting visit the second weekend in June. We had eight guys visit; we had eight guys commit. It wasn't like these were people others weren't interested in. The toughest thing is getting them on campus. Once you do .. Lawrence is a wonderful town, and KU is a wonderful school. Our facilities, our academic support, our dorm situation, where they eat, the campus itself ... it sells itself."
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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #17079 on: July 23, 2014, 03:41:43 PM »
From ESPN Insider

Big 12 coaches sound off on recruiting
JULY 23, 2014 11:00:58 AM PDT
By Damon Sayles

DALLAS -- Winning football games holds top billing in most cases, but when discussing the most important objective to college football coaches, a great recruiting class is always high on the totem pole.

The Big 12 media days on Monday and Tuesday gave coaches a chance to share their opinions on their teams, their competitors and the future of college football. It also allowed each coach to talk about the positives and negatives of recruiting.

All 10 conference head coaches were asked the same question: "What's the hardest part about recruiting players to the Big 12?" Here are their answers, honest and unfiltered.

Art Briles, Baylor

"I think getting kids to stay in state would be the No. 1 thing I'm looking at. If I find out that new girl moves in, and all of a sudden, she looks as good or better than the one you've been walking down the hall the last year and a half … and then, let her be there a year and a half, and she may not look that much better. A lot of times, when something new comes along -- like an out-of-state school -- you're thinking, 'That might be nice.' What's nice is having mama, daddy and all your kinfolks able to drive and watch you play every weekend. At the end of the day, it's about F-A-M-I-L-Y, and that's what we've got."

Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State

"I think it's the limitations we have and the ability to observe and get to know the players. We're so limited in our contacts and the amount of times we actually get to see them play live. You always worry about who you bring into your program. I think that's the biggest concern for us; we'd like to have more access to really get to know them as a person and player, more than we really do."

Dana Holgorsen, West Virginia

"The Big 12's actually helped our recruiting. It goes back to when I was hired by Oliver [Luck]; there was an interest to try and bring some kids from Texas. Once we got into the Big 12, it wasn't regional anymore. The Big East was regional. It felt regional, the TV coverage was regional, it didn't have the national flair that the Big 12 has. Once we got into the Big 12, we're more recognizable now than we ever have been, not only with guys who are around the surrounding state of West Virginia but also on the east coast and in Florida. We can recruit junior colleges on a national level. They've seen Big 12 football games. We have to compete the best of the best in order to compete in the Big 12, and the Big 12 is definitely up there."

Kliff Kingsbury, Texas Tech

"Everybody's recruiting the same guys now. It used to be a couple of schools recruiting the top guys. Now you've got six or seven teams that all have a legit shot of getting a top prospect. There are so many good players in the state, but everybody's going to find their way in. You've got to be good at targeting who you want and make sure you get him."

Gary Patterson, TCU

"We've always recruited well against everyone in the Big 12, even when we weren't here. Out of the amount of scholarships we have, we only have a couple left. We were ranked in the top 25 in most recruiting polls. There's a lot of great players in this area who are good people and do good things, and we're looking for that. We've just got to go out and prove to people that we can win in the conference. When that happens, I think the sky's the limit for TCU. Hopefully it's this year. If not, we're building the foundation to get where we need to get to."

Paul Rhoads, Iowa State

"Recruiting is very challenging. Arguably, at the two biggest traditional programs I've been -- Ohio State and Auburn -- recruiting was hard there, too. There are challenges everywhere you go in recruiting. We have more of them in Ames, Iowa, and Iowa State than most folks. We're in a state that produces 8-10 Division I players a year, on a good year, and very rarely are there any defensive linemen. There's not a ton of speed in our state. Now you spread out your fingers and go elsewhere. You get to Florida or Texas or places like that, and they can't necessarily find Iowa on a national atlas, so you've got to educate them and get as much in front of them that you can and work hard to get them on your campus. That's the hardest job in the whole process. [Also,] getting the young man to our campus. Once we do that, we have a pretty good product to sell, whether it be facilities or people or philosophy or whatever it is."

LHC LHC Bill Snyder, Kansas State

"I don't know if there's anything extremely difficult:emawkid: Because of the social media venue, you really can have contact anywhere in the country. More and more people probably are looking into the Midwest, Texas and the southeastern conferences, and everybody can get everywhere right now if you have [a cellphone]. Consequently, that probably would make it more difficult because you're not isolated in recruiting."

Bob Stoops, Oklahoma

"We've got a great recruiting base around the area. I just read something someone put in front of me [that] in the last five years of the NFL draft, we're ranked No. 3, tied for third, with the number of draft picks, so we must be recruiting pretty well."

Charlie Strong, Texas

"Recruiting is a yearlong process. The great thing about it is signing day is not until February. But you always want to build the relationship with high school coaches because that's where it all starts at. And we have outstanding coaches within the state, and we will continue to build those relationships. Our coaches have broken down, and each one of them has a part of this state. They know just how critical it is to go recruit the top players and get them into our program."

Charlie Weis, Kansas

"I don't think there's anything hard about recruiting to the Big 12. I think for me, personally, the toughest thing I do in recruiting is getting a guy past the stigma of ‘Kansas.' Once we get them on campus, I think the chance of getting them is very high. Losing: That's what the stigma is. We had a recruiting visit the second weekend in June. We had eight guys visit; we had eight guys commit. It wasn't like these were people others weren't interested in. The toughest thing is getting them on campus. Once you do .. Lawrence is a wonderful town, and KU is a wonderful school. Our facilities, our academic support, our dorm situation, where they eat, the campus itself ... it sells itself."

Charlie W. must have heard Bill Speaking before hand and didn't want to see Bill upstage him with the "It's not really that hard" statement. Oh Charlie.


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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #17080 on: July 23, 2014, 03:54:15 PM »
Good lord, Art. Come up with your own slogan, you son of a bitch.

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« Reply #17081 on: July 23, 2014, 03:58:24 PM »
Good lord, Art. Come up with your own slogan, you son of a bitch.

I know!! Effing Briles  :shakesfist:

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« Reply #17082 on: July 23, 2014, 06:26:30 PM »
Lol at Rhoads and Weis
I once blew clove smoke in a guy's face that cut in front of me in the line to KJ's.

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« Reply #17083 on: July 23, 2014, 06:43:11 PM »
Quote from: Charlie Weis
I think for me, personally, the toughest thing I do in recruiting is getting a guy past the stigma of ‘Kansas.'

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« Reply #17084 on: July 23, 2014, 07:57:04 PM »

Quote from: Iowa State Head Coach
Getting anyone to come to our school is incredibly hard and our in state talent is dogshit. Did I say dogshit? No, that's not what I meant. I mean to say small, slow, redheaded pieces of dogshit. It's like the floor in an underfunded animal rescue. Hahaha....this is off the record, right?

I once blew clove smoke in a guy's face that cut in front of me in the line to KJ's.

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« Reply #17085 on: July 23, 2014, 09:01:49 PM »

Quote from: Iowa State Head Coach
Getting anyone to come to our school is incredibly hard and our in state talent is dogshit. Did I say dogshit? No, that's not what I meant. I mean to say small, slow, redheaded pieces of dogshit. It's like the floor in an underfunded animal rescue. Hahaha....this is off the record, right?


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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #17086 on: July 23, 2014, 09:23:31 PM »
Isaiah Zuber

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Kansas state was the best visit I been on my whole high school career
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« Reply #17087 on: July 23, 2014, 09:45:04 PM »
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I think for me, personally, the toughest thing I do in recruiting is getting a guy past the stigma of ‘Kansas.'
That would look great on a t-shirt.
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« Reply #17088 on: July 23, 2014, 09:46:24 PM »
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Kansas state was the best visit I been on my whole high school career
:Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :thumbsup:
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« Reply #17089 on: July 23, 2014, 09:56:58 PM »

Isaiah Zuber

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Kansas state was the best visit I been on my whole high school career
I felt the same way Isaiah


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« Reply #17090 on: July 23, 2014, 10:59:29 PM »


Isaiah Zuber

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Kansas state was the best visit I been on my whole high school career
I felt the same way Isaiah

Me too Isaiah!

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« Reply #17091 on: July 23, 2014, 11:35:55 PM »
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Kansas state was the best visit I been on my whole high school career
:Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :thumbsup:

Suck it, whoever is coaching Vandy now!

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« Reply #17092 on: July 24, 2014, 06:46:55 AM »
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Kansas state was the best visit I been on my whole high school career
:Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :thumbsup:

Suck it, whoever is coaching Vandy now!

Kalin Heath is the guy who just visited Vandy.
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« Reply #17093 on: July 24, 2014, 09:09:54 AM »
AG @Zuber_7More  ·  1h
Kansas state was the best visit I been on my whole high school career
:Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :thumbsup:

Suck it, whoever is coaching Vandy now!

Kalin Heath is the guy who just visited Vandy.

Zuber has also previously visited Vandy, and since KSU is the best visit ever, SUCK IT VANDY!  :excited:

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« Reply #17094 on: July 24, 2014, 09:33:43 AM »
AG @Zuber_7More  ·  1h
Kansas state was the best visit I been on my whole high school career
:Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :Woot: :thumbsup:

Suck it, whoever is coaching Vandy now!

Kalin Heath is the guy who just visited Vandy.

Zuber has also previously visited Vandy, and since KSU is the best visit ever, SUCK IT VANDY!  :excited:

Well, OK. In that case, suck it 2x, Vandy!

I thought you were confusing this with Heath's situation as he just joined some friends on a Vandy visit and his quote that basically said he didn't have an awful time visiting a D1 college campus with friends was taken out of context to sound like he was really interested in Vandy. He confirmed that he's an EMAW stud through and through the next day.
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« Reply #17095 on: July 24, 2014, 11:11:08 AM »
LOL at Rhoads.  my god

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« Reply #17096 on: July 24, 2014, 11:48:38 AM »
Rhodes has the most losserly way of speaking in the history of all loser speak

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« Reply #17097 on: July 24, 2014, 11:50:05 AM »
Rhodes has the most losserly way of speaking in the history of all loser speak

it's a perfect fit. they'll name the stadium after him.

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« Reply #17098 on: July 24, 2014, 11:50:29 AM »
Rhodes has the most losserly way of speaking in the history of all loser speak

it's a perfect fit. they'll name the stadium after him.

actually, mccarney (sp?) was also a perfect fit

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« Reply #17099 on: July 24, 2014, 12:05:13 PM »
Rhodes has the most losserly way of speaking in the history of all loser speak

it's a perfect fit. they'll name the stadium after him.

actually, mccarney (sp?) was also a perfect fit

Its even more interesting because in that article you can juxtapose his loser speak with winners doing winner speak.