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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: catastrophe on October 07, 2017, 10:09:05 PM
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We should go all in on Skylar at this point. Team simply isn't shaping out like anyone hoped. Sky is the future.
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delton has zero touch on his ball. yes please to sky. at least keep the defense honest
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I think Delton could be a dece passer. We kinda put him into a tough position today.
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I think Delton could be a dece passer. We kinda put him into a tough position today.
I agree. I'm curious to see what he's got.
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Delton has a good arm but bad decision making I think. The coaches obviously do not trust him to throw it.
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Delton has a good arm but bad decision making I think. The coaches obviously do not trust him to throw it.
Yeah, the 2nd and 23rd was pretty telling.
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Haha, he threw the ball well tonight. Actually went thru his reads. And didn’t throw it anywhere that it would have had a chance of getting picked. Jesse however.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
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Delton has a good arm but bad decision making I think. The coaches obviously do not trust him to throw it.
Yeah, the 2nd and 23rd was pretty telling.
Ertz had a laughably bad throw to a wide open guy in the first half IIRC, and Delton's incompletions weren't any worse than that one. At this point I'm 80% all-in on "He Who Smelton" Delton
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Delton has a good arm but bad decision making I think. The coaches obviously do not trust him to throw it.
Yeah, the 2nd and 23rd was pretty telling.
Ertz had a laughably bad throw to a wide open guy in the first half IIRC, and Delton's incompletions weren't any worse than that one. At this point I'm 80% all-in on "He Who Smelton" Delton
I am in agreement with you on this one.
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Haha, he threw the ball well tonight. Actually went thru his reads. And didn’t throw it anywhere that it would have had a chance of getting picked. Jesse however.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
GTFO, look dude I've already said I think Ertz should sit until he's healed but get the hell outta here if anyone in this wide wide world is confident that Delton could have went 12-18, 224 and 2 TDs. He threw the ball fine, damn you guys are ridiculous.
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Haha, he threw the ball well tonight. Actually went thru his reads. And didn’t throw it anywhere that it would have had a chance of getting picked. Jesse however.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
GTFO, look dude I've already said I think Ertz should sit until he's healed but get the hell outta here if anyone in this wide wide world is confident that Delton could have went 12-18, 224 and 2 TDs. He threw the ball fine, damn you guys are ridiculous.
dem Gruntley YACs tho :love:
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Ertz should still play if he's healthy. But if not we should focus on the future instead of just running Delton until we're in 3rd and long and then scratching our heads. This is shaping up to be 2013 Waters/Sams all over again.
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Delton should get the same opportunity as his predecessors to ruin his body getting 30 carries a game.
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The ball wobbled a lot on Delton's passes. They were on-target for the most part, but the lack of a tight spiral is concerning to me.
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The ball wobbled a lot on Delton's passes. They were on-target for the most part, but the lack of a tight spiral is concerning to me.
maybe our receivers will catch a wobbly ball?
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Good point. Pringle did it.
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Haha, he threw the ball well tonight. Actually went thru his reads. And didn’t throw it anywhere that it would have had a chance of getting picked. Jesse however.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
GTFO, look dude I've already said I think Ertz should sit until he's healed but get the hell outta here if anyone in this wide wide world is confident that Delton could have went 12-18, 224 and 2 TDs. He threw the ball fine, damn you guys are ridiculous.
12-18 thanks to Dalton Gruntley. One handed catch? And I’m not saying Jesse didn’t throw the ball well, especially knowing that he is hurt more than a lot of you know, but Delton did not throw he ball that poorly at all. His worst throw was his 23 yard completion. And Jesse’s throws are just as much to blame on Dimel as they are him. He ran a play action on the one that was picked? Fire Dimel. He is beyond horrible.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
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Haha, he threw the ball well tonight. Actually went thru his reads. And didn’t throw it anywhere that it would have had a chance of getting picked. Jesse however.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
GTFO, look dude I've already said I think Ertz should sit until he's healed but get the hell outta here if anyone in this wide wide world is confident that Delton could have went 12-18, 224 and 2 TDs. He threw the ball fine, damn you guys are ridiculous.
And I’m not saying Jesse didn’t throw the ball well, especially knowing that he is hurt more than a lot of you know
I know how hurt he is, and it's actually worse than the people who are 'in the know' know. But I wouldn't expect you to know that.
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Why can't Thompson get a look.
Delton looks tiny and there is no zip.
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Time to turn our sights on the future.
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I mean, how great would it be for a good QB (who as far as I can tell should really be the #2) to get a solid 3 years of experience with the offense?
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I mean, how great would it be for a good QB (who as far as I can tell should really be the #2) to get a solid 3 years of experience with the offense?
It would be really great, if it were possible. No one can make it through a season much less 3 without being injured.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
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I mean, how great would it be for a good QB (who as far as I can tell should really be the #2) to get a solid 3 years of experience with the offense?
It would be really great, if it were possible. No one can make it through a season much less 3 without being injured.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
gonna get out anyway so...........Jesse will get surgery this week on his knee......meniscus tear. Hopefully 2-3 weeks out but I wouldn't bet on that. Should be ready by end of season or bowl game in my opinion. Delton will be the starter going forward. Jesse is a warrior I know he will rehab like hell to get back and lead his team.
d-tyme right again.
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I mean, how great would it be for a good QB (who as far as I can tell should really be the #2) to get a solid 3 years of experience with the offense?
It would be really great, if it were possible. No one can make it through a season much less 3 without being injured.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
D-tyme, do......do you manually type that signature in every time? :surprised:
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I mean, how great would it be for a good QB (who as far as I can tell should really be the #2) to get a solid 3 years of experience with the offense?
It would be really great, if it were possible. No one can make it through a season much less 3 without being injured.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
D-tyme, do......do you manually type that signature in every time? :surprised:
No, it’s in my signature. And I can confirm that information, couldn’t say anything to protect my sources. Ya’ll know how it is. Feel sorry for Jesse, talk about bad luck. Excited for Alex, but then I remember that Dimel calls the plays and depression sets in.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
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Dtyme is a tapatalk'r
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We desperately need a QB we can trust to throw the ball and receivers who can catch. Really not sure what to expect from Delton, but I'm excited for the game regardless. That's something I just can't help about Cats football.
That said, to stay on topic I seriously hope we get away from the Hubener school of thought and put in Sky if Delton is not settling down and making good throws after the next game or two.
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Dtyme is a tapatalk'r
Bingo.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
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Haha, he threw the ball well tonight. Actually went thru his reads. And didn’t throw it anywhere that it would have had a chance of getting picked. Jesse however.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
GTFO, look dude I've already said I think Ertz should sit until he's healed but get the hell outta here if anyone in this wide wide world is confident that Delton could have went 12-18, 224 and 2 TDs. He threw the ball fine, damn you guys are ridiculous.
12-18 thanks to Dalton Gruntley. One handed catch? And I’m not saying Jesse didn’t throw the ball well, especially knowing that he is hurt more than a lot of you know, but Delton did not throw he ball that poorly at all. His worst throw was his 23 yard completion. And Jesse’s throws are just as much to blame on Dimel as they are him. He ran a play action on the one that was picked? Fire Dimel. He is beyond horrible.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
you wanna expand on that or should i just call ertz an bad person now for being selfish and rough ridin' our team?
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Haha, he threw the ball well tonight. Actually went thru his reads. And didn’t throw it anywhere that it would have had a chance of getting picked. Jesse however.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
GTFO, look dude I've already said I think Ertz should sit until he's healed but get the hell outta here if anyone in this wide wide world is confident that Delton could have went 12-18, 224 and 2 TDs. He threw the ball fine, damn you guys are ridiculous.
12-18 thanks to Dalton Gruntley. One handed catch? And I’m not saying Jesse didn’t throw the ball well, especially knowing that he is hurt more than a lot of you know, but Delton did not throw he ball that poorly at all. His worst throw was his 23 yard completion. And Jesse’s throws are just as much to blame on Dimel as they are him. He ran a play action on the one that was picked? Fire Dimel. He is beyond horrible.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
you wanna expand on that or should i just call ertz an bad person now for being selfish and rough ridin' our team?
Well, he was hurt going into the game and they planned on splitting snaps with Alex to help him out. In no way is Jesse a bad person nor being selfish, in fact quite the opposite. He has played thru a lot and as hard as anyone on the team or in the country. Couldn’t have more bad luck with injuries and the way his playing career has gone, but he still gives his all.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
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yeah, the coaches need to decide if a 75% sisco is > 100% delton...you can't put that on ertz
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or just say im hurt and need to heal, i get being competitive and wanting to play but we need him healthy. im not saying its all on him but players cover up injuries all the time and our training staff and jesse need to get on the same page.
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yeah, the coaches need to decide if a 75% sisco is > 100% delton...you can't put that on ertz
Coaches don’t need to decide anymore. See slackcats post earlier in this thread. Only difference is 4-6 weeks, not 2-3.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
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I mean, how great would it be for a good QB (who as far as I can tell should really be the #2) to get a solid 3 years of experience with the offense?
It would be really great, if it were possible. No one can make it through a season much less 3 without being injured.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
gonna get out anyway so...........Jesse will get surgery this week on his knee......meniscus tear. Hopefully 2-3 weeks out but I wouldn't bet on that. Should be ready by end of season or bowl game in my opinion. Delton will be the starter going forward. Jesse is a warrior I know he will rehab like hell to get back and lead his team.
d-tyme right again.
Gracias, wish it wasn’t for the reasons it is for. Hope Jesse makes it back and shines when he does. He deserves it.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
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It truly is Delton-tyme.
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Haha, he threw the ball well tonight. Actually went thru his reads. And didn’t throw it anywhere that it would have had a chance of getting picked. Jesse however.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
GTFO, look dude I've already said I think Ertz should sit until he's healed but get the hell outta here if anyone in this wide wide world is confident that Delton could have went 12-18, 224 and 2 TDs. He threw the ball fine, damn you guys are ridiculous.
12-18 thanks to Dalton Gruntley. One handed catch? And I’m not saying Jesse didn’t throw the ball well, especially knowing that he is hurt more than a lot of you know, but Delton did not throw he ball that poorly at all. His worst throw was his 23 yard completion. And Jesse’s throws are just as much to blame on Dimel as they are him. He ran a play action on the one that was picked? Fire Dimel. He is beyond horrible.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
you wanna expand on that or should i just call ertz an bad person now for being selfish and rough ridin' our team?
Holy hell, it's going to be tough for anyone to have a worse hot take than this one, the rest of the week.
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or just say im hurt and need to heal, i get being competitive and wanting to play but we need him healthy. im not saying its all on him but players cover up injuries all the time and our training staff and jesse need to get on the same page.
I get this, but I'm with the bold part. No good, competitive player is going to think they can't go unless its a major injury. If it really is a meniscus tear, then the pain is odd depending on the cut and the motion. And after watching Ertz trip on his own on that cut, the meniscus tear makes complete sense, especially with how quickly they pulled him.
The biggest mistake was putting him back out there on the last drive. I'm sure he probably doesn't feel much pain on it throwing and he and the staff thought he would give them the better option, but if you already pulled him and after Delton's success, I leave Delton on the field.
This entire thing stinks for Ertz. BTW, I don't pin a meniscus tear as much on the system/staff/QB battering ram. Its more of a freak deal combining an odd plant/cut with wear and tear from use over time.
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or just say im hurt and need to heal, i get being competitive and wanting to play but we need him healthy. im not saying its all on him but players cover up injuries all the time and our training staff and jesse need to get on the same page.
If he were covering up his injury, the staff wouldn't have been getting Delton ready to play all week.
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Haha, he threw the ball well tonight. Actually went thru his reads. And didn’t throw it anywhere that it would have had a chance of getting picked. Jesse however.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
GTFO, look dude I've already said I think Ertz should sit until he's healed but get the hell outta here if anyone in this wide wide world is confident that Delton could have went 12-18, 224 and 2 TDs. He threw the ball fine, damn you guys are ridiculous.
12-18 thanks to Dalton Gruntley. One handed catch? And I’m not saying Jesse didn’t throw the ball well, especially knowing that he is hurt more than a lot of you know, but Delton did not throw he ball that poorly at all. His worst throw was his 23 yard completion. And Jesse’s throws are just as much to blame on Dimel as they are him. He ran a play action on the one that was picked? Fire Dimel. He is beyond horrible.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
you wanna expand on that or should i just call ertz an bad person now for being selfish and rough ridin' our team?
Holy hell, it's going to be tough for anyone to have a worse hot take than this one, the rest of the week.
werent you just bitching about having opinions on here just yesterday? am i not entitled to mine? you dont have to answer either because i really dont give a crap
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or just say im hurt and need to heal, i get being competitive and wanting to play but we need him healthy. im not saying its all on him but players cover up injuries all the time and our training staff and jesse need to get on the same page.
I get this, but I'm with the bold part. No good, competitive player is going to think they can't go unless its a major injury. If it really is a meniscus tear, then the pain is odd depending on the cut and the motion. And after watching Ertz trip on his own on that cut, the meniscus tear makes complete sense, especially with how quickly they pulled him.
The biggest mistake was putting him back out there on the last drive. I'm sure he probably doesn't feel much pain on it throwing and he and the staff thought he would give them the better option, but if you already pulled him and after Delton's success, I leave Delton on the field.
This entire thing stinks for Ertz. BTW, I don't pin a meniscus tear as much on the system/staff/QB battering ram. Its more of a freak deal combining an odd plant/cut with wear and tear from use over time.
yeah what you said was worded better than my post, but the second half of the baylor game it was obvious something was wrong
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yeah what you said was worded better than my post, but the second half of the baylor game it was obvious something was wrong
True. I just know from experience, meniscus tears can be weird. A lot of it is just how much pain a guy can put up with until it can get fully repaired, but then once in a while they will sort of lock up, which is what I think happened when Ertz fell weirdly.
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Haha, he threw the ball well tonight. Actually went thru his reads. And didn’t throw it anywhere that it would have had a chance of getting picked. Jesse however.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
GTFO, look dude I've already said I think Ertz should sit until he's healed but get the hell outta here if anyone in this wide wide world is confident that Delton could have went 12-18, 224 and 2 TDs. He threw the ball fine, damn you guys are ridiculous.
12-18 thanks to Dalton Gruntley. One handed catch? And I’m not saying Jesse didn’t throw the ball well, especially knowing that he is hurt more than a lot of you know, but Delton did not throw he ball that poorly at all. His worst throw was his 23 yard completion. And Jesse’s throws are just as much to blame on Dimel as they are him. He ran a play action on the one that was picked? Fire Dimel. He is beyond horrible.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
you wanna expand on that or should i just call ertz an bad person now for being selfish and rough ridin' our team?
Holy hell, it's going to be tough for anyone to have a worse hot take than this one, the rest of the week.
werent you just bitching about having opinions on here just yesterday? am i not entitled to mine? you dont have to answer either because i really dont give a crap
1. Nope, that was skinben.
2. chill
Calling the dude selfish and an bad person for attempting to play hurt is completely contrary to what football players, especially quarterbacks are taught. Clearly the trainers and the coaches thought he was healthy enough to play, what do you think happens if he declined to play on that circumstance?
It's also worth noting that Delton didn't come in until Sisco's leg gave out on that run and he collapsed when he had 5-10 more yards to gain. They knew how hurt he was and attempted to play him every snap. In football culture the trainers and coaches have to protect the players from the culture they created.
At what point are we going to listen to the several coach/trainer complaints this staff has had?
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yeah what you said was worded better than my post, but the second half of the baylor game it was obvious something was wrong
True. I just know from experience, meniscus tears can be weird. A lot of it is just how much pain a guy can put up with until it can get fully repaired, but then once in a while they will sort of lock up, which is what I think happened when Ertz fell weirdly.
I lost part of my meniscus in my left knee. I tore it but didn't have surgery right away, just continued to play on it. I developed a lot of scar tissue that had to be cut with the part of the meniscus around it.
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yeah what you said was worded better than my post, but the second half of the baylor game it was obvious something was wrong
True. I just know from experience, meniscus tears can be weird. A lot of it is just how much pain a guy can put up with until it can get fully repaired, but then once in a while they will sort of lock up, which is what I think happened when Ertz fell weirdly.
I lost part of my meniscus in my left knee. I tore it but didn't have surgery right away, just continued to play on it. I developed a lot of scar tissue that had to be cut with the part of the meniscus around it.
sarcastic mister know it all
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Some of the decisions this staff makes regarding playing players with injuries should be NCAA violations, imo.
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Team Sky
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Haha, he threw the ball well tonight. Actually went thru his reads. And didn’t throw it anywhere that it would have had a chance of getting picked. Jesse however.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
GTFO, look dude I've already said I think Ertz should sit until he's healed but get the hell outta here if anyone in this wide wide world is confident that Delton could have went 12-18, 224 and 2 TDs. He threw the ball fine, damn you guys are ridiculous.
12-18 thanks to Dalton Gruntley. One handed catch? And I’m not saying Jesse didn’t throw the ball well, especially knowing that he is hurt more than a lot of you know, but Delton did not throw he ball that poorly at all. His worst throw was his 23 yard completion. And Jesse’s throws are just as much to blame on Dimel as they are him. He ran a play action on the one that was picked? Fire Dimel. He is beyond horrible.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
you wanna expand on that or should i just call ertz an bad person now for being selfish and rough ridin' our team?
Holy hell, it's going to be tough for anyone to have a worse hot take than this one, the rest of the week.
werent you just bitching about having opinions on here just yesterday? am i not entitled to mine? you dont have to answer either because i really dont give a crap
1. Nope, that was skinben.-sorry but it was two days ago, What the hell does this mean, should I not have a differing opinion? It's a discussion board, stop being weird.
2. chill-gotcha
Calling the dude selfish and an bad person for attempting to play hurt is completely contrary to what football players, especially quarterbacks are taught. Clearly the trainers and the coaches thought he was healthy enough to play, what do you think happens if he declined to play on that circumstance? -I asked for more clarification first and never actually called him those things, i read it as he is hiding the severity of the injury. I played sports and know you do everything you can to stay on the field, i also know there is a price to pay if you stretch your limitations and its not like guys havent lost their job due to injuries at ksu
It's also worth noting that Delton didn't come in until Sisco's leg gave out on that run and he collapsed when he had 5-10 more yards to gain. They knew how hurt he was and attempted to play him every snap. In football culture the trainers and coaches have to protect the players from the culture they created.- he was fainting goat/rolling around head first the whole 2nd half so something was obviously wrong and i think when he went down like you said it actually snapped. (not a doctor but that is what it looked like)
At what point are we going to listen to the several coach/trainer complaints this staff has had?-im done listening to, well, 1 coach because he is the only one that speaks until ya know he actually starts coaching again and if you dont think he has lost it this year you are blind. he is a talking puppet at this point and the mistakes by this staff are mounting.
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Feel bad for Jesse. I don't think there is any doubt about his toughness or desire to play.
I wonder if this would help his petition for a 6th year.
I also wonder if his body is telling him he shouldn't keep playing.
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Feel bad for Jesse. I don't think there is any doubt about his toughness or desire to play.
I wonder if this would help his petition for a 6th year.
I also wonder if his body is telling him he shouldn't keep playing.
there is no doubt this is def gonna help his petition, will he be eligible to get that medical red shirt? or gray shirt? regular red shirt?
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Of course he's masking the extent of his injuries, this program and this sport requires him to, that's the point slim. Do you think Dalton Risner feels great playing on two sprained ankles? Pringle must have injured one of his eyes or something, he's playing.
You cannot place one tiny bit of blame on a player trying to play through pain. By the way, the fans require players to do it too.
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Yeah, I'm guilty of getting mad about Dylan being too hurt to start the game we lost at KU but not hurt enough to keep him from almost mounting a comeback. Of course, I wasn't fully aware that our coaching staff has the same attitude toward injury that the staff on Varsity Blues had at that time, but that doesn't fully excuse me.
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Of course he's masking the extent of his injuries, this program and this sport requires him to, that's the point slim. Do you think Dalton Risner feels great playing on two sprained ankles? Pringle must have injured one of his eyes or something, he's playing.
You cannot place one tiny bit of blame on a player trying to play through pain. By the way, the fans require players to do it too.
so you want ertz to play on a torn meniscus am i gathering that right? what happened to #family?
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Of course he's masking the extent of his injuries, this program and this sport requires him to, that's the point slim. Do you think Dalton Risner feels great playing on two sprained ankles? Pringle must have injured one of his eyes or something, he's playing.
You cannot place one tiny bit of blame on a player trying to play through pain. By the way, the fans require players to do it too.
so you want ertz to play on a torn meniscus am i gathering that right? what happened to #family?
wtf, that's what you read?
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Of course he's masking the extent of his injuries, this program and this sport requires him to, that's the point slim. Do you think Dalton Risner feels great playing on two sprained ankles? Pringle must have injured one of his eyes or something, he's playing.
You cannot place one tiny bit of blame on a player trying to play through pain. By the way, the fans require players to do it too.
so you want ertz to play on a torn meniscus am i gathering that right? what happened to #family?
You're gathering that very wrong.
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Of course he's masking the extent of his injuries, this program and this sport requires him to, that's the point slim. Do you think Dalton Risner feels great playing on two sprained ankles? Pringle must have injured one of his eyes or something, he's playing.
You cannot place one tiny bit of blame on a player trying to play through pain. By the way, the fans require players to do it too.
so you want ertz to play on a torn meniscus am i gathering that right? what happened to #family?
You're gathering that very wrong.
alright
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Of course he's masking the extent of his injuries, this program and this sport requires him to, that's the point slim. Do you think Dalton Risner feels great playing on two sprained ankles? Pringle must have injured one of his eyes or something, he's playing.
You cannot place one tiny bit of blame on a player trying to play through pain. By the way, the fans require players to do it too.
so you want ertz to play on a torn meniscus am i gathering that right? what happened to #family?
You're gathering that very wrong.
alright
I thought my point was clear, I'll state it again. First of all, I've said more than once that if he's but he shouldn't be playing. Secondly, I wish football culture allowed him to be hurt and to heal properly without being forced to play while injured.
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Of course he's masking the extent of his injuries, this program and this sport requires him to, that's the point slim. Do you think Dalton Risner feels great playing on two sprained ankles? Pringle must have injured one of his eyes or something, he's playing.
You cannot place one tiny bit of blame on a player trying to play through pain. By the way, the fans require players to do it too.
so you want ertz to play on a torn meniscus am i gathering that right? what happened to #family?
You're gathering that very wrong.
alright
I thought my point was clear, I'll state it again. First of all, I've said more than once that if he's but he shouldn't be playing. Secondly, I wish football culture allowed him to be hurt and to heal properly without being forced to play while injured.
well, okay then. fwiw i just got a text from people we both know that hertz will be out 4-6 weeks now. i guess we will see, apparently the mrs/scan didn't look good. i hope I'm wrong
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At what point are we going to listen to the several coach/trainer complaints this staff has had?
Huh? Like the training/medical staff sucks?
Also, I have had a ton meniscus and did nothing and it just got better. But I'm not playing D1 football. I just wanted to share that little anecdote about me. :Rusty:
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At what point are we going to listen to the several coach/trainer complaints this staff has had?
Huh? Like the training/medical staff sucks?
Also, I have had a ton meniscus and did nothing and it just got better. But I'm not playing D1 football. I just wanted to share that little anecdote about me. :Rusty:
No, that they, in conjunction with the coaches are playing players who may not be comfortable being on the field. There were whispers of this with Alex Barnes last season and full blown roars with Corey Sutton this past summer. There have been other things that we've seen; Collin Klein with his concussion against OSU and Grant Gregory playing most of the season with a torn rotator cuff.
Again, I think these things are prevalent and expected in the sport. I don't think our staffs are worse than anyone else, just not any better either.
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Agree MIR. We just notice it with QBs because of the demands with our run game. I know a former Big 12 level baseball coach who calls football at the D1 level a "surgical sport".
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I mean, he's got to be in by the second half of this game right?
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I hope so
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I mean, he's got to be in by the second half of this game right?
He should, but we will probably go with the same game plan in the 2nd half knowing this staff.
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A couple of people on KSO are saying he is transferring fwiw.
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Figures.
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A couple of people on KSO are saying he is transferring fwiw.
Who is the "he" here
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A couple of people on KSO are saying he is transferring fwiw.
Who is the "he" here
Seriously? Thread title bro
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This would be severely disappointing news. I've been Sky high since the spring game.
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Can't say I blame the kid.
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I give up.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he does transfer. He is about to watch Ertz go back in as our starting QB a week after Delton put up the best game of K-State's season for a QB. He might be thinking no matter how good he is, he won't see playing time until he knows the playbook better than the other QB's on the roster. This has been the Snyder 2.0 mentality. Play the guys that know the playbook the most, even if not as talented.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he does transfer. He is about to watch Ertz go back in as our starting QB a week after Delton put up the best game of K-State's season for a QB. He might be thinking no matter how good he is, he won't see playing time until he knows the playbook better than the other QB's on the roster. This has been the Snyder 2.0 mentality. Play the guys that know the playbook the most, even if not as talented.
Or, I guess he could think "I better learn the playbook."
I'm not sure how you define "talented," but I am completely confident that we play the QB that gives us the best chance of winning.
If Thompson leaves, he is a baby. In any event, I don't believe the rumor.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he does transfer. He is about to watch Ertz go back in as our starting QB a week after Delton put up the best game of K-State's season for a QB. He might be thinking no matter how good he is, he won't see playing time until he knows the playbook better than the other QB's on the roster. This has been the Snyder 2.0 mentality. Play the guys that know the playbook the most, even if not as talented.
Or, I guess he could think "I better learn the playbook."
I'm not sure how you define "talented," but I am completely confident that we play the QB that gives us the best chance of winning.
If Thompson leaves, he is a baby. In any event, I don't believe the rumor.
this kind of post is kind of the ultimate litmus test for our fan base. on the one side, you have someone calling the athletes "babies" if they get frustrated by lack of opportunity or issues with the staff. on the other hand, you have fans who just want to see the best players play and have an exciting team, regardless of the hickups along the way. i think, ultimately, we all just want wins and a more fun style of football. neither of which is happening now. hence, our collective frustration/confusion. i see no downside to playing sky. delton played great but there are other things sky can do. we should be allowed to see what happens. no reason to get ertz even more hurt for a team that will go 6-6 at best. if sky plays and sucks, then fine. he can consider his transfer. but to not even get an opportunity when the situation so obviously asks for it, is just more fuel to the fire for why the inflexibility of this staff infuriates both elements of our fan base and the guys on the team.
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For all the crap we give our coaches, I do believe that more often than not the best guy plays. Sams transferred to an FCS school and still struggled to get playing time. If Thompson does transfer, I think he would end up closer to that than a Mayfield type.
Ertz is the best we have right now. I just don’t understand why we would play him in our only easy win when he clearly has issues getting healthy.
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Delton should play until he gets hurt. He just gave us our best offensive performance of the season against a top 10 team. I like Ertz, but he's injured. He also only led us to 7 points against Vanderbilt, VANDERBILT when he was healthy. Ertz should be our #3 option right now.
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Sky should transfer if he doesn't want to have multiple shoulder surgeries. If he is here next year he will start but in this type of offense he has no long term future. Our offense is total bullshit for a QB. If I was a parent there is no way in he'll I would let my kid come to KSU to play QB.
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Delton should play until he gets hurt. He just gave us our best offensive performance of the season against a top 10 team. I like Ertz, but he's injured. He also only led us to 7 points against Vanderbilt, VANDERBILT when he was healthy. Ertz should be our #3 option right now.
good work here
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Sky should transfer if he doesn't want to have multiple shoulder surgeries. If he is here next year he will start but in this type of offense he has no long term future. Our offense is total bullshit for a QB. If I was a parent there is no way in he'll I would let my kid come to KSU to play QB.
OU and UT run their QB's into the ground.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he does transfer. He is about to watch Ertz go back in as our starting QB a week after Delton put up the best game of K-State's season for a QB. He might be thinking no matter how good he is, he won't see playing time until he knows the playbook better than the other QB's on the roster. This has been the Snyder 2.0 mentality. Play the guys that know the playbook the most, even if not as talented.
Or Ertz is the better quarterback
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Sky should transfer if he doesn't want to have multiple shoulder surgeries. If he is here next year he will start but in this type of offense he has no long term future. Our offense is total bullshit for a QB. If I was a parent there is no way in he'll I would let my kid come to KSU to play QB.
OU and UT run their QB's into the ground.
Don't know about OU but UT certainly does. I can't remember the last time an OU qb missed playing time with an injury.
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I'm sure there has been one or two cases of our coaches "missing" on a player that is a gamer and perhaps would/could perform better than the guy(s) ahead of him on the depth chart. However, after watching hours and hours of practice, plus work ethic in offseason/summer conditioning , plus "voluntary" workouts, 99% of the time coaches have a pretty good idea of who can play and who can't.
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I can't remember the last time an OU qb missed playing time with an injury.
Maybe not missed time, but...
http://www.oudaily.com/sports/oklahoma-football-baker-mayfield-didn-t-practice-last-week-due/article_810e7996-b805-11e7-9fea-f3763ec01f23.html
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I'm sure there has been one or two cases of our coaches "missing" on a player that is a gamer and perhaps would/could perform better than the guy(s) ahead of him on the depth chart. However, after watching hours and hours of practice, plus work ethic in offseason/summer conditioning , plus "voluntary" workouts, 99% of the time coaches have a pretty good idea of who can play and who can't.
Agreed, but fans are gonna fan. Collin Klein was either the third or fourth string QB in '09, he got better in the system, then he played. Although it is worth noting that they completely changed the offense for him but they aren't doing that for any of these quarterbacks.
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yeah, tv was talking about him being pretty banged up.
def didn't move around as much.
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I'm sure there has been one or two cases of our coaches "missing" on a player that is a gamer and perhaps would/could perform better than the guy(s) ahead of him on the depth chart. However, after watching hours and hours of practice, plus work ethic in offseason/summer conditioning , plus "voluntary" workouts, 99% of the time coaches have a pretty good idea of who can play and who can't.
Agreed, but fans are gonna fan. Collin Klein was either the third or fourth string QB in '09, he got better in the system, then he played. Although it is worth noting that they completely changed the offense for him but they aren't doing that for any of these quarterbacks.
I think they envisioned Ertz being Klein part 2. They definitely made changes in the offense for the Waters-Lockett years and I think they went back to the Klein system and Delton is doing much of the same. That's also possibly why Delton is getting the nod over Thompson, more experience plus a better skill set to fit the offensive system they already have in place. With knowing at some point Ertz will be back, that makes some sense as well rather than changing the system more to fit Thompson's skills.
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Klein probably should have played more as a sophomore over queso
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Sky should transfer if he doesn't want to have multiple shoulder surgeries. If he is here next year he will start but in this type of offense he has no long term future. Our offense is total bullshit for a QB. If I was a parent there is no way in he'll I would let my kid come to KSU to play QB.
OU and UT run their QB's into the ground.
Don't know about OU but UT certainly does. I can't remember the last time an OU qb missed playing time with an injury.
Mayfield ran all over the place on saturday. Basically if they needed a first he'd take the snap and go.
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I'm sure there has been one or two cases of our coaches "missing" on a player that is a gamer and perhaps would/could perform better than the guy(s) ahead of him on the depth chart. However, after watching hours and hours of practice, plus work ethic in offseason/summer conditioning , plus "voluntary" workouts, 99% of the time coaches have a pretty good idea of who can play and who can't.
Agreed, but fans are gonna fan. Collin Klein was either the third or fourth string QB in '09, he got better in the system, then he played. Although it is worth noting that they completely changed the offense for him but they aren't doing that for any of these quarterbacks.
I think they envisioned Ertz being Klein part 2. They definitely made changes in the offense for the Waters-Lockett years and I think they went back to the Klein system and Delton is doing much of the same. That's also possibly why Delton is getting the nod over Thompson, more experience plus a better skill set to fit the offensive system they already have in place. With knowing at some point Ertz will be back, that makes some sense as well rather than changing the system more to fit Thompson's skills.
that's a really fair point, but i also think our staff and system should be flexible enough that even in season we can throw someone else in there and make it viable. i mean, kody rough ridin' cook led us on some pretty good drives in 2015. you can't tell me we can't come up with a package on the fly that makes thompson at least competent in game action. but, again, delton played well. props to him and the coaches for coming up with something that kept us competitive against a very good ou team.
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Klein probably should have played more as a sophomore over queso
Yes, this would be a legitimate gripe IMO. Klein dominated in his first start. Then we did this weird QB shuffle against North Texas and every time Klein was in he did better, so I had no idea why Klein did not play in our bowl game that year.
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If Delton hadn't followed a pretty bad outing vs TCU with a very good one vs OU, I'd be all for Thompson at this point. However, given that Delton also played well vs UT when he went in, I'm confident he's earned the #2 spot and should play if Ertz's knee is still a problem.
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If Delton hadn't followed a pretty bad outing vs TCU with a very good one vs OU, I'd be all for Thompson at this point. However, given that Delton also played well vs UT when he went in, I'm confident he's earned the #2 spot and should play if Ertz's knee is still a problem.
yeah, that's fair. it's not like he's gonna be less confident going forward now he just scored 5 td's on ou. he knows he can hang after that. so i expect him to continue to figure it out. also, you have to give props to patterson and tcu. that's just one damn salty defense.
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Sky should transfer if he doesn't want to have multiple shoulder surgeries. If he is here next year he will start but in this type of offense he has no long term future. Our offense is total bullshit for a QB. If I was a parent there is no way in he'll I would let my kid come to KSU to play QB.
well he maybe waiting to see who our coach is going to be, i know i would
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also, you have to give props to patterson and tcu. that's just one damn salty defense.
Definitely.
It will be interesting to see if ISU's defense continues to put up the numbers they have so far against Big 12 competition. They didn't suddenly get a lot more talented, but Campbell is doing something right this year.
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Ertz has no business starting another game as KSU's QB, IMO. He's a banged up lame duck QB in the midst of a season where we're just hoping for a bowl game. Delton has played as good, if not better, than Ertz this year, and he'll have eligibility next year. He also doesn't appear to be as prone to injury as Ertz is at the moment.
If it were up to me, Delton plays the rest of the season with Thompson hopefully getting plenty of time against KU this week.
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agree with Dlew
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Since we have no chance to do anything meaningful this season, I’m on board with this, although I still think Sky has the higher ceiling and should be starting for the same reasons.
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Ertz has no business starting another game as KSU's QB, IMO. He's a banged up lame duck QB in the midst of a season where we're just hoping for a bowl game. Delton has played as good, if not better, than Ertz this year, and he'll have eligibility next year. He also doesn't appear to be as prone to injury as Ertz is at the moment.
If it were up to me, Delton plays the rest of the season with Thompson hopefully getting plenty of time against KU this week.
Agreed. Ertz is the most pedrstrian QB we've had since Brian Kavanaugh. He can't pass, he's slow as eff, and now he's unwilling to take contact to get first down yardage. It's rough ridin' criminal that he'd be allowed back out there over Delton
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Sky should transfer if he doesn't want to have multiple shoulder surgeries. If he is here next year he will start but in this type of offense he has no long term future. Our offense is total bullshit for a QB. If I was a parent there is no way in he'll I would let my kid come to KSU to play QB.
OU and UT run their QB's into the ground.
Don't know about OU but UT certainly does. I can't remember the last time an OU qb missed playing time with an injury.
Mayfield ran all over the place on saturday. Basically if they needed a first he'd take the snap and go.
That's unique to Mayfield though, he's a scrambler, that isn't their offense. They aren't crashing him into line 20 times a game like we do. They aren't making fullbacks ram into his back. Mike and Ell didn't get hurt because we didn't run them that way either. Lbeaz didn't get hurt because he was a Sherman Tank.
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Since we have no chance to do anything meaningful this season, I’m on board with this, although I still think Sky has the higher ceiling and should be starting for the same reasons.
This. Thompson has the broader skill set (can run and can make every throw) and a higher ceiling. Now that Ertz is out, not playing Thompson at all makes no sense. And he has been on campus for what, almost two years now? He knows enough to freakin' play.
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why would he transfer? this season was always about ertz
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Other than private/family stuff I can think of three possible reasons: (1) he saw Ertz go through the season and realized he’s gonna have to take a lot of punishment to play in our system, (2) he feels like he’s way better than Delton and if he’s not allowed to play now he never will be, or (3) he either knows or is convinced that Snyder is retiring.
I don’t see 1 being likely at all because you know what you’re getting in this system. 2 is possible, but if that’s really the case he probably is not as good as he thinks and won’t be that successful anywhere. 3 is also possible, but I think we’d hear a lot more rumblings if that were the case.
So I guess I really don’t have much reason to believe he actually would be transferring.
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I don’t know why anyone would even consider transferring with the impending headset swap from bill to Sean. The sky’s the limit for sure
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Sky should transfer if he doesn't want to have multiple shoulder surgeries. If he is here next year he will start but in this type of offense he has no long term future. Our offense is total bullshit for a QB. If I was a parent there is no way in he'll I would let my kid come to KSU to play QB.
OU and UT run their QB's into the ground.
Don't know about OU but UT certainly does. I can't remember the last time an OU qb missed playing time with an injury.
Mayfield ran all over the place on saturday. Basically if they needed a first he'd take the snap and go.
That's unique to Mayfield though, he's a scrambler, that isn't their offense. They aren't crashing him into line 20 times a game like we do. They aren't making fullbacks ram into his back. Mike and Ell didn't get hurt because we didn't run them that way either. Lbeaz didn't get hurt because he was a Sherman Tank.
Seems like I remember Ell getting hurt in '03. Even missed a couple of games because of it? :dunno:
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Sky should transfer if he doesn't want to have multiple shoulder surgeries. If he is here next year he will start but in this type of offense he has no long term future. Our offense is total bullshit for a QB. If I was a parent there is no way in he'll I would let my kid come to KSU to play QB.
OU and UT run their QB's into the ground.
Don't know about OU but UT certainly does. I can't remember the last time an OU qb missed playing time with an injury.
Mayfield ran all over the place on saturday. Basically if they needed a first he'd take the snap and go.
That's unique to Mayfield though, he's a scrambler, that isn't their offense. They aren't crashing him into line 20 times a game like we do. They aren't making fullbacks ram into his back. Mike and Ell didn't get hurt because we didn't run them that way either. Lbeaz didn't get hurt because he was a Sherman Tank.
That's a really fair point. Running a QB into the line 30x a game like we're Navy/Air Force is way different than what Mayfield does when he's not winging it all over the field killing us and other teams.
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Since we have no chance to do anything meaningful this season, I’m on board with this, although I still think Sky has the higher ceiling and should be starting for the same reasons.
This. Thompson has the broader skill set (can run and can make every throw) and a higher ceiling. Now that Ertz is out, not playing Thompson at all makes no sense. And he has been on campus for what, almost two years now? He knows enough to freakin' play.
Are posts like this based on the spring game or something?
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That was my thought as well. I think he may be decent, but I have no idea if he can make every throw. Fans always give back up QBs magical powers though.
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Schrödinger's pass
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Since we have no chance to do anything meaningful this season, I’m on board with this, although I still think Sky has the higher ceiling and should be starting for the same reasons.
This. Thompson has the broader skill set (can run and can make every throw) and a higher ceiling. Now that Ertz is out, not playing Thompson at all makes no sense. And he has been on campus for what, almost two years now? He knows enough to freakin' play.
Are posts like this based on the spring game or something?
Yes. The only data we really have to go off of.
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Also, I’m situations like this I always favor the younger QB if he shows promise.
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Sky should transfer if he doesn't want to have multiple shoulder surgeries. If he is here next year he will start but in this type of offense he has no long term future. Our offense is total bullshit for a QB. If I was a parent there is no way in he'll I would let my kid come to KSU to play QB.
OU and UT run their QB's into the ground.
Don't know about OU but UT certainly does. I can't remember the last time an OU qb missed playing time with an injury.
Mayfield ran all over the place on saturday. Basically if they needed a first he'd take the snap and go.
That's unique to Mayfield though, he's a scrambler, that isn't their offense. They aren't crashing him into line 20 times a game like we do. They aren't making fullbacks ram into his back. Mike and Ell didn't get hurt because we didn't run them that way either. Lbeaz didn't get hurt because he was a Sherman Tank.
Seems like I remember Ell getting hurt in '03. Even missed a couple of games because of it? :dunno:
Oh man, duh, I'm dumb.
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Lbeaz had shoulder problems but I don't think he missed any games
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Since we have no chance to do anything meaningful this season, I’m on board with this, although I still think Sky has the higher ceiling and should be starting for the same reasons.
This. Thompson has the broader skill set (can run and can make every throw) and a higher ceiling. Now that Ertz is out, not playing Thompson at all makes no sense. And he has been on campus for what, almost two years now? He knows enough to freakin' play.
Are posts like this based on the spring game or something?
Some high school games for each. I'm just saying Thompson is more of a pure QB. Nothing against Delton. The way this season has gone, if Thompson just stands on the sideline all year, it's effing stupid. Get him some snaps. Especially if we get any kind of lead in any remaining games, it makes total sense to work him in. But that probably won't happen.
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Sky looked good running the ball in live game action against ine of the first teams we played.
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Sky should transfer if he doesn't want to have multiple shoulder surgeries. If he is here next year he will start but in this type of offense he has no long term future. Our offense is total bullshit for a QB. If I was a parent there is no way in he'll I would let my kid come to KSU to play QB.
OU and UT run their QB's into the ground.
Don't know about OU but UT certainly does. I can't remember the last time an OU qb missed playing time with an injury.
Mayfield ran all over the place on saturday. Basically if they needed a first he'd take the snap and go.
That's unique to Mayfield though, he's a scrambler, that isn't their offense. They aren't crashing him into line 20 times a game like we do. They aren't making fullbacks ram into his back. Mike and Ell didn't get hurt because we didn't run them that way either. Lbeaz didn't get hurt because he was a Sherman Tank.
Seems like I remember Ell getting hurt in '03. Even missed a couple of games because of it? :dunno:
Oh man, duh, I'm dumb.
To be fair, your logic is still sound. While Ell did get injured and the QB's did run the ball quite often, it was in a different scheme than what they do now. They weren't just crashing into the middle of the line time and time again.
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Ell played with a spaghetti shoulder in 03 and 02
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K-State QBs rushing attempts per game for their careers:
Matt Miller 11.7
Michael Bishop 10.6
Jonathan Beasley 8.1
Ell Roberson 14.7
Collin Klein 16.7
Jake Waters 10.5
Jesse Ertz 14.2
I know that the last 4 multi-year starters all had shoulder injuries of some sort. Dylan Meier did also, though he didn't run it as much.
Honestly, I don't think the opportunities for hits taken have changed much since Ell. The Bishop/Beasley teams were a little more selective with QB runs, but starting with Ell the QB run game became the feature part of the offense leading to the culmination of Collin Klein the battering ram. It tapered a bit with Waters (though he still played hurt) and then Ertz is supposed to be another Klein.
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Schrödinger's pass
:lol:
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K-State QBs rushing attempts per game for their careers:
Matt Miller 11.7
Michael Bishop 10.6
Jonathan Beasley 8.1
Ell Roberson 14.7
Collin Klein 16.7
Jake Waters 10.5
Jesse Ertz 14.2
I know that the last 4 multi-year starters all had shoulder injuries of some sort. Dylan Meier did also, though he didn't run it as much.
Honestly, I don't think the opportunities for hits taken have changed much since Ell. The Bishop/Beasley teams were a little more selective with QB runs, but starting with Ell the QB run game became the feature part of the offense leading to the culmination of Collin Klein the battering ram. It tapered a bit with Waters (though he still played hurt) and then Ertz is supposed to be another Klein.
No QB stat is complete without including #MyGuy Joe Hieubenor. :curse:
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K-State QBs rushing attempts per game for their careers:
Matt Miller 11.7
Michael Bishop 10.6
Jonathan Beasley 8.1
Ell Roberson 14.7
Collin Klein 16.7
Jake Waters 10.5
Jesse Ertz 14.2
I know that the last 4 multi-year starters all had shoulder injuries of some sort. Dylan Meier did also, though he didn't run it as much.
Honestly, I don't think the opportunities for hits taken have changed much since Ell. The Bishop/Beasley teams were a little more selective with QB runs, but starting with Ell the QB run game became the feature part of the offense leading to the culmination of Collin Klein the battering ram. It tapered a bit with Waters (though he still played hurt) and then Ertz is supposed to be another Klein.
No QB stat is complete without including #MyGuy Joe Hieubenor. :curse:
Would be interested to see what the average number of QB runs per snap taken by QBs would be. That way you could include Sams.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
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QB runs per snap would be much better, but I don't have the time to research that.
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Schrödinger's pass
:lol:
It's clever, but then I'm like...wait, Schrödinger's Cat still works great here.
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QB runs per snap would be much better, but I don't have the time to research that.
Yeah, I hear ya.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
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Sky should transfer if he doesn't want to have multiple shoulder surgeries. If he is here next year he will start but in this type of offense he has no long term future. Our offense is total bullshit for a QB. If I was a parent there is no way in he'll I would let my kid come to KSU to play QB.
OU and UT run their QB's into the ground.
Don't know about OU but UT certainly does. I can't remember the last time an OU qb missed playing time with an injury.
Mayfield ran all over the place on saturday. Basically if they needed a first he'd take the snap and go.
That's unique to Mayfield though, he's a scrambler, that isn't their offense. They aren't crashing him into line 20 times a game like we do. They aren't making fullbacks ram into his back. Mike and Ell didn't get hurt because we didn't run them that way either. Lbeaz didn't get hurt because he was a Sherman Tank.
Seems like I remember Ell getting hurt in '03. Even missed a couple of games because of it? :dunno:
Oh man, duh, I'm dumb.
To be fair, your logic is still sound. While Ell did get injured and the QB's did run the ball quite often, it was in a different scheme than what they do now. They weren't just crashing into the middle of the line time and time again.
ER3 injured his throwing hand against a helmet as he threw a pass. This was in the Marshall game. IMO, that totally changed the complexion of the entire season, if the B12CG were to play out to is 35-7 finish. I digress. But, to your point, not exactly an injury caused by our QB run scheme. Buy yes, we did run ER3 a lot.
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It was 100% not in the Marshall game because he didn’t play that day
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Clearly the more well rounded qb
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2 snaps, 7 points
Tough to argue with results.
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It was 100% not in the Marshall game because he didn’t play that day
Confirmed. Ell injured his hand against McNeese State.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=1629576
When Roberson suffered an injury to his left hand in the 55-14 defeat of Division I-AA McNeese State four weeks ago, he had already rushed for 251 yards, gaining 6.6 yards per carry, and four touchdowns. With senior and former walk-on Jeff Schwinn in charge, the offense became ordinary and mistake-prone.
In the second half of the loss to Marshall, Roberson pleaded with Snyder to put him back in the game. "He was not cleared by the doctors for the Marshall game,"
quarterback coach Del Miller said. "He wanted to go in. He dressed for the game. The easy thing would have been to put him in. That's not what Coach Snyder is in this for, or [you]."
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He appears to be just as Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) in the pocket as the two QBs in front of him.
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Considering the lack of reps we seem to give our backups, I’ll reserve judgment for when he actually starts a game.
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Given it's such a shared trait, I kind of conclude it could just be the offense that's Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).
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About what I would expect of a young QB with no significant experience and so much potential in our bullshit offense.
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Let's roll with Sky for the final 4 games and prepare for next year. Let the two Alexi transfer and move forward.
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He appears to be just as Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) in the pocket as the two QBs in front of him.
Sky did fine with the crap line/scheme he had to play with.
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Sky is totally The Guy
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I like him.. definitely not as sexy as runner as delton but he doesn't try to force things that aren't there
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Why did they wait until the last drive to give him short passes? Can neither he nor Delton throw slants?
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We refused to let him throw until 3rd downs. It handicapped him and the offense. I swear we are the only school that uses a backup who’s been here 2 years and treat him like a WR at QB. Might as well tear out all plays except 8 of them. God forbid we open it up and see what a kids got
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Take it to the coaches are dumbasses thread
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QB runs per snap would be much better, but I don't have the time to research that.
My press guides only go back to 92.
Plays= total plays for all QBs
Rush= rush plays for all QBs
R/T= rush plays / total plays
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QBs sorted descending by total plays.
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Quarterbacks by year sorted descending by total plays. I tried to filter for guys who started or played significant time.
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Damn Tom where’d you learn to pivot table like that?
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Good stuff Tom.
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I'd be prouder if this if I could cut and paste the table and not have it look like jibberish.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/conferences/big-12/leaders/rush-att-player-career.html
Most rush attempts for a career in Big 12. Here are the QBs in the Top 50.
No Player Att
18 Eric Crouch NU 648
28 Ell Roberson KSU 604
29 Collin Klein KSU 601
43 Robert Griffin III BAY 528
47 Jammal Lord NU 516
49 Bret Meyer ISU 509
50 Trevone Boykin TCU 507
Tom
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thanks for that tom. very cool. i'm excited to have more free time the rest of this fall and see what sky can do. and just hope the guys aren't quitting on the coaches. or the coaches aren't quitting on the guys.
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Sisco runs more than bazooka joe did, SMDH.
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Should be shooting for .25-.3 mark for our QBs. Ertz up above .4 is absurd
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Should be shooting for .25-.3 mark for our QBs. Ertz up above .4 is absurd
Don't know where you picked these numbers from, but I don't think it's that absurd considering in our most successful years our QBs were right around .4
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It’s absurd with Barnes, Silmon and Warmack on the roster and given Ertz's injury history
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Sisco runs more than bazooka joe did, SMDH.
awful. how is this possible? especially with Jesse's injury history
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Should be shooting for .25-.3 mark for our QBs. Ertz up above .4 is absurd
Don't know where you picked these numbers from, but I don't think it's that absurd considering in our most successful years our QBs were right around .4
Based mostly on the inability of guys to stay healthy up at that .4 mark. Also it seems most effective offenses that use QBs to run consistently don’t do it to the extent we do. Getting guys 8-12 carries a game feels more sustainable and better balanced. I think you need to throw a decent amount to win consistently today and ruining guys shoulders isn’t helping. Also Ell and Klein were more durable than Ertz.
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Ertz running the ball on 40% of his snaps is absurd. Yes he is a very good runner but goddam.
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yes, stupid
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You guys are helping opponents prepare for the cats smdh
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You guys are helping opponents prepare for the cats smdh
GPC would never help a team prepare unlike KSO and gE. Damn.
https://twitter.com/GoPowercat/status/918198004666064897
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no surprise our biggest ass kicking came against TCU and their advanced scouting report
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Bump.
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#blueSKYSlookingatyou
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#TeamSky
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His non Zuber TD pass was his play of the game. High hopes on this stud.
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It's gonna be weird as a K-State fan watching him moving forward tho. On paper, not a K-State QB, his intangibles don't fit well with a KSU offense. But they did today, so who cares! Cats!
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It's gonna be weird as a K-State fan watching him moving forward tho. On paper, not a K-State QB, his intangibles don't fit well with a KSU offense. But they did today, so who cares! Cats!
so, say, hypothetically, that sky plays against vandy, texas, and ou, and our coaches let him push it down the field and let our runnings back run. we win all those games, right? just cater to the guy's talents. not that hard. he's got arm talent, he's mobile enough to just make plays. i hope our coaches are now finally forced to call a game for the qb they have and stop trying to force something that they thinks works but doesn't fit the personnel. bc there aren't any more viable qb's to get killed. sky is it. ride or die.
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so, say, hypothetically, that sky plays against vandy, texas, and ou,
He'd have been dead by today too.
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so, say, hypothetically, that sky plays against vandy, texas, and ou,
He'd have been dead by today too.
I mean is there any doubt of this? all the qbs seem like they could do pretty decent if not constantly pummeled by play calling.
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so, say, hypothetically, that sky plays against vandy, texas, and ou,
He'd have been dead by today too.
I mean is there any doubt of this? all the qbs seem like they could do pretty decent if not constantly pummeled by play calling.
fair point. it was cool to see a guy be allowed to make plays and be in a position to improvise, instead of worrying constantly about dying.
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:thumbs:
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I get that our system beats up QBs, but the two hits that Delton took were both cheap shots in the pocket that could happen in any system.
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I get that our system beats up QBs, but the two hits that Delton took were both cheap shots in the pocket that could happen in any system.
They were going after his head on designed runs, no doubt in my mind. If they hadn't gotten him in the pocket they would have gotten him on a run eventually.
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I get that our system beats up QBs, but the two hits that Delton took were both cheap shots in the pocket that could happen in any system.
Agreed. I still think Kliff should be fined.
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I get that our system beats up QBs, but the two hits that Delton took were both cheap shots in the pocket that could happen in any system.
thanks for that info. i didn't get to watch most of the early action, so i did not see how delton got re-injured.
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I was with ya, fan!
https://twitter.com/fanman_ksu/status/926877391565328387
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I was with ya, fan!
https://twitter.com/fanman_ksu/status/926877391565328387
gross, wacks
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:dunno: our QB's get abused. That's why we recruit dual threats. Sky is not a dual threat type.
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I'm cool with Dimel hot takes. But... Know the game.
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I still see no appreciable difference between the 2 non-ertz quarterbacks, aside from the current amount of CTE.
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So wait, delton is getting coddled by the coaches? Or does Wacky not know what that word means?
Weird to take a shot at delton.
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Sky looks like waters but I'm going to say better arm
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he doesn't look anything like waters
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:dunno: our QB's get abused. That's why we recruit dual threats. Sky is not a dual threat type.
he was the #7 dual threat qb in the nation :dunno:
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Sky, a redshirt freshman, while at the opening drive in the 2nd half, did look like it. At the end of the game (when not crippled by awful play calling), he looked like a seasoned 5th year SR.
I think it's obvious that it's time to give the reigns to Sky.
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Starting anyone but Sky moving forward should be a fireable offense.
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Sky, a redshirt freshman, while at the opening drive in the 2nd half, did look like it. At the end of the game (when not crippled by awful play calling), he looked like a seasoned 5th year SR.
I think it's obvious that it's time to give the reigns to Sky.
yeah i don't know why there is any discussion here. delton played well. and has done an admirable job in place of ertz, but he's dinged. sky is good and can wing it. throw him in there and let's go win these last 3.
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I mean sky played ok on the last drive and overtime, but I don't get being down on Delton. Sky certainly didn't look like any kind of senior qb to me for the vast majority of his time on the field.
Don't get me wrong, he might be really good but I think declaring him the starter from now on and dumping Delton seems a bit crazy.
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I mean sky played ok on the last drive and overtime, but I don't get being down on Delton. Sky certainly didn't look like any kind of senior qb to me for the vast majority of his time on the field.
Don't get me wrong, he might be really good but I think declaring him the starter from now on and dumping Delton seems a bit crazy.
I don't have anything against Delton, as he has performed as best as he did for us in the last few games, but the ceiling is way much higher for Thompson than Delton at this point. And if you were to go back to the beginning of the 2nd half, Thompson looked lost and untimely with his receivers and he does have the tendency to hold on to the ball way too long for my liking.
However, I do like the fact that Skylar has improved tremendously within the 2 quarters of football. And it is a RS Freshman who just made those plays we're talking about here. It would also give an idea if he really is the answer moving forward to 2018 (and potentially more) or not.
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So wait, delton is getting coddled by the coaches? Or does Wacky not know what that word means?
Weird to take a shot at delton.
Coddled was a lol take since we murder our QB's with the run. Someone went after Dimel for Delton getting skettibrained and I corrected them that it was a pass play, so get educated with the Dimel hot takes. He's been a dumbass coordinator, but go eff yourselves if you blame Dimel for that.
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:dunno: our QB's get abused. That's why we recruit dual threats. Sky is not a dual threat type.
he was the #7 dual threat qb in the nation :dunno:
I covered many of his games. He is known for passing. "Dual threat" is being kind by the recruiting services.
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I don't see that Delton has a lower ceiling and I certainly don't think he's played his best (in the very limited opportunities he's had so far).
Other than getting concussions, I don't see that his performance has deserved getting benched.
If Sky does take over the starter position from now on based solely on what's happened on the field, Delton should justifiably transfer.
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He's #1, but he can't help getting skettibrained and having a crap ton of pass deflections for being short.
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He's #1, but he can't help getting skettibrained and having a crap ton of pass deflections for being short.
This. I believe it was 4 tipped passes in the first half before he got skettibrained.
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I don't see that Delton has a lower ceiling and I certainly don't think he's played his best (in the very limited opportunities he's had so far).
Other than getting concussions, I don't see that his performance has deserved getting benched.
If Sky does take over the starter position from now on based solely on what's happened on the field, Delton should justifiably transfer.
yeah Delton played pretty great, so did Thompson outside of the first couple of drives. There is in no way clearly more upside for Thompson unless you consider him being a freshman vs. Dleton being a sophomore being more of an upside.
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I agree that both QBs played well.
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Again, the upside for Thompson is being 6'4 and less skettibrained. He's a throw first QB that our coaches will have to adjust to. He's as much of a runner that the coaching staff forced Waters to be. It's not what he likes to do.
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I get that our system beats up QBs, but the two hits that Delton took were both cheap shots in the pocket that could happen in any system.
They were going after his head on designed runs, no doubt in my mind. If they hadn't gotten him in the pocket they would have gotten him on a run eventually.
pathetic they feel the need to concuss an inexperienced sophmore qb to help win them the game. very tech thing to do which makes me think it was likely intentional.
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Tech teams under Kliff are always undisciplined. This was no surprise. I don't think they were just targeting QBs, that's just how they play and part of why Kliff will be fired.
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Looking at twitter it seems as if our guy Sky is just as woke as Sisco :love:
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What does that mean?
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You don't know what woke means?
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It's #woke
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You don't know what woke means?
I do not. I've seen it thrown around from time to time. I just assumed it was slang for something and didn't attempt to figure it out.
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Looking at twitter it seems as if our guy Sky is just as woke as Sisco :love:
https://twitter.com/skylar_15/status/926928860855328769
they both love their moms?
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Looking at twitter it seems as if our guy Sky is just as woke as Sisco :love:
https://twitter.com/skylar_15/status/926928860855328769
they both love their moms?
:lol:
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Looking at twitter it seems as if our guy Sky is just as woke as Sisco :love:
Post examples please! :excited:
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They're both redpillers?
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I think it's a 9/11 truther thing
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If Sky knows that Sandy Hook was an inside job then he is DEFINITELY my guy.
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If Sky knows that Sandy Hook was an inside job staged then he is DEFINITELY my guy.
fyp
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Again, the upside for Thompson is being 6'4 and less skettibrained. He's a throw first QB that our coaches will have to adjust to. He's as much of a runner that the coaching staff forced Waters to be. It's not what he likes to do.
Unfortunately, some of our coaches don't like to adjust, even when they should.
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I mean sky played ok on the last drive and overtime, but I don't get being down on Delton. Sky certainly didn't look like any kind of senior qb to me for the vast majority of his time on the field.
Don't get me wrong, he might be really good but I think declaring him the starter from now on and dumping Delton seems a bit crazy.
This.
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I mean sky played ok on the last drive and overtime, but I don't get being down on Delton. Sky certainly didn't look like any kind of senior qb to me for the vast majority of his time on the field.
Don't get me wrong, he might be really good but I think declaring him the starter from now on and dumping Delton seems a bit crazy.
This.
i personally am not bagging on delton. delton has done a good job in relief. i just think sky is in the best physical shape so giving him a shot makes sense, if we are to assume delton cannot play next week.
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Again, the upside for Thompson is being 6'4 and less skettibrained. He's a throw first QB that our coaches will have to adjust to. He's as much of a runner that the coaching staff forced Waters to be. It's not what he likes to do.
Maybe you didn’t cover as many of his games as you thought....he ran for over 1000 yards as a Senior
As a Junior he averaged 199 passing yards a game with 38 rushing yards
As a Senior he averaged 152 passing yards a game with 78 rushing yards
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I'm well aware of his HS stats and the system he ran in, DOD. TY!
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Delton should sit until it's not dangerous for him to play, but I really don't get how people can look at the hits he's taken and decide he's just not durable. Nobody is going to take those hits and walk away concussion-free.
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Looking at twitter it seems as if our guy Sky is just as woke as Sisco :love:
https://twitter.com/skylar_15/status/926928860855328769
they both love their moms?
:lol:
Could be wrong, but I believe Cisco's mom is alive and Sky's passed away a few years ago.
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Delton should sit until it's not dangerous for him to play, but I really don't get how people can look at the hits he's taken and decide he's just not durable. Nobody is going to take those hits and walk away concussion-free.
This, and all the other stuff re: Delton in here. I like Delton a lot, and I like Sky, but I don't understand bagging on Delton, or thinking he isn't durable, especially the hit he took this game by the TT D-lineman. That was as helmet-to-helmet targeting of a call I've seen since Flacco. At least the d-lineman here had the good sense of realizing his mistake instantly, vs the Miami baby backed bitch.
The only issue I've really seen with Delton is his throws getting knocked down at the line are a bit bothersome. Outside of that the offense at least moves and has some fluidity to it under him.
Sky though was very good the last 2 drives (regulation and OT), and should be rewarded for his poise.
Regardless, I think it'll be a fun battle between the two.
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If delton is in concussion protocol two weeks in a row then he’s got to be done for the season.
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^^This this this. It’s not about durability. It’s about long term health, and you are taking serious risks going back into the game after two apparent concussions.
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Wasn't kiko alonso the guy that speared CK in the head during the fiesta bowl?
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Wasn't kiko alonso the guy that speared CK in the head during the fiesta bowl?
https://youtu.be/31q_wODGf0k?t=2m51s (https://youtu.be/31q_wODGf0k?t=2m51s)
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Anyone know what the deal is with Sky? Saw he took the last snap today so obviously nothing broken.
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Anyone know what the deal is with Sky? Saw he took the last snap today so obviously nothing broken.
He's a K-State QB, so its hard to say.
But its likely in a) the shoulder area or b) slightly (but not really I guess) concussed.
Or maybe some freak deal.
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Certainly looked lower limb/extremity as they were helping him off the field but difficult to say with this program.
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I think osu hurts our qb every time we play
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Anyone know what the deal is with Sky? Saw he took the last snap today so obviously nothing broken.
He's a K-State QB, so its hard to say.
But its likely in a) the shoulder area or b) slightly (but not really I guess) concussed.
Or maybe some freak deal.
yeah, he looked very seriously injured when he was helped off the field, but the last few handoffs looked fine. can you take a "stinger" in the back or spine?
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Anyone know what the deal is with Sky? Saw he took the last snap today so obviously nothing broken.
He's a K-State QB, so its hard to say.
But its likely in a) the shoulder area or b) slightly (but not really I guess) concussed.
Or maybe some freak deal.
yeah, he looked very seriously injured when he was helped off the field, but the last few handoffs looked fine. can you take a "stinger" in the back or spine?
Possibly. He did look fine when he came back in.
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Bud Kilmer just told him to take the needle and get back in there
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Huge balls
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He's everything sisco wished he could be
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He's everything sisco wished he could be
ertz is a good dude, but sky really is the man. we can bag on sky for not being great earlier or dimel or our ancient coach or the scheme, but sky decided we were going to win and then went and won it.
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He's everything sisco wished he could be
ertz is a good dude, but sky really is the man. we can bag on sky for not being great earlier or dimel or our ancient coach or the scheme, but sky decided we were going to win and then went and won it.
Apparently he was pretty banged up and didn't practice this week. Would explain a lot
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I love him
Eyes always downfield, no panic, cool as a cucumber
With a competent coaching staff he could be great
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I like the plays where he throws the ball. For having a banged up QB, we don't seem to run many of those.
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yeah, he was obviously injured. he scrambled at one point to gain yards in the middle of the field and went down praying he didn't take a big hit. and then he bounced right back and won the game. only adds to the studliness, imho.
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He's everything sisco wished he could be
I know shitting on Sisco is for the most part gEing but I legit for emotional when he hobbled to his family on those crutches today, he literally gave everything he had for EMAW, will always be one of my favorites.
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I think a totally healthy sisco was pretty good maybe even greatish and I won't allow crapping on the guy.
So let's just celebrate The Creator
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He finds our running backs more often in check downs than any qb in kstate history
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Thompson is legit.
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You guys hear Zuber's post game interview? He mentioned that the coaches worked with the WRs on keeping their routes alive because he's a threat to their when he scrambles. He's probably the best threat to do this since bish.
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I will say though he would have been the biggest goat, not G.O.A.T. but goat if he didn't find Zuber. He should have thrown that fade to Pringle away if it was covered. Scrambling there was insane.
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This seals it for me for Thompson. I still love Delton but the TT, OSU and now this speak for themselves.
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I will say though he would have been the biggest goat, not G.O.A.T. but goat if he didn't find Zuber. He should have thrown that fade to Pringle away if it was covered. Scrambling there was insane.
Yeah you take away the result of that play and it’s bad. That’s what you get tho from a redshirt freshman that only has 2-3 starts. He made a play this time but it’s a teaching moment for sure.
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No practice Monday or Tuesday for #ournewguy. Partial practice Wednesday. Full practice Thursday. Players make plays, the stud that is Sky did just that.
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No practice Monday or Tuesday for #ournewguy. Partial practice Wednesday. Full practice Thursday. Players make plays, the stud that is Sky did just that.
If #ournewguy does that same play against an OU or a team not named ISU with athlete D line players he doesn’t make that play.
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His pocket presence is just ungodly for a RS FR for a K-State QB. Most RS FR/FR QB's would typically would look at the defender and not look down the field. Plus he feels pressure, he steps up, and makes the throw.
That's the kind of stuff you just can't teach. You either have it or you don't.
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Guys, Sky makes me really excited for the future. Go cats.
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No practice Monday or Tuesday for #ournewguy. Partial practice Wednesday. Full practice Thursday. Players make plays, the stud that is Sky did just that.
If #ournewguy does that same play against an OU or a team not named ISU with athlete D line players he doesn’t make that play.
#dontcare
#vssecondbestdefenseinthebig12
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Man, I didn’t even get a “That’s fair” from _FAN on that. He’s pretty salty tonight.
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Man, I didn’t even get a “That’s fair” from _FAN on that. He’s pretty salty tonight.
He's too busy lifting up Phil over his triumphant head
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Man, I didn’t even get a “That’s fair” from _FAN on that. He’s pretty salty tonight.
:cheers:
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Man, I didn’t even get a “That’s fair” from _FAN on that. He’s pretty salty tonight.
He's too busy lifting up Phil over his triumphant head
:lol:
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Now is not the time to get a rational post from a true Cats fan. I can’t wait to see what Sky looks like with a full offseason and some swagger. I hope the bowl game just stokes my hopes instead of crushing them.
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Watching him move up and side to side in the pocket is beautiful.
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Now is not the time to get a rational post from a true Cats fan. I can’t wait to see what Sky looks like with a full offseason and some swagger. I hope the bowl game just stokes my hopes instead of crushing them.
He finished the season like my all time guy Sisco did. We better get rid of the QB run game and use our 17,000 running backs or he's gonna face a similar ending fate.
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Now is not the time to get a rational post from a true Cats fan. I can’t wait to see what Sky looks like with a full offseason and some swagger. I hope the bowl game just stokes my hopes instead of crushing them.
He finished the season like my all time guy Sisco did. We better get rid of the QB run game and use our 17,000 running backs or he's gonna face a similar ending fate.
I guess we could abandon our offensive identity and start anew. Why not?
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100% truth from MIR. Let’s build an offense around the RS Freshman. This could be a great moment in Cats history.
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PS - I am not being sarcastic at all. If Dimel is not up to the task he should be gone. I don’t care if this is Snyder’s last it second to last or whatever year.
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Now is not the time to get a rational post from a true Cats fan. I can’t wait to see what Sky looks like with a full offseason and some swagger. I hope the bowl game just stokes my hopes instead of crushing them.
He finished the season like my all time guy Sisco did. We better get rid of the QB run game and use our 17,000 running backs or he's gonna face a similar ending fate.
I guess we could abandon our offensive identity and start anew. Why not?
We're gonna have to. Just watched the KSO postgame and Thompson said he's been hurt the last two games. They're going to ruin him.
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At least move more toward the Waters version. Shouldn't be that hard.
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His pocket presence is just ungodly for a RS FR for a K-State QB. Most RS FR/FR QB's would typically would look at the defender and not look down the field. Plus he feels pressure, he steps up, and makes the throw.
That's the kind of stuff you just can't teach. You either have it or you don't.
You can absolutely teach that kind of stuff. I don't think our coaches are good at it, but it can be done.
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Pringle ran a slant on the last play.
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“I am not scared. I am fearless of the moment. When all eyes are on me, I don’t think about it. I almost invite that, because I love being in the moment and having everybody looking at me to make a play and to win the game … I never doubted it once. I never doubt us until the clock hits zero.”
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https://twitter.com/skylar_15/status/934832072128172033
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At least move more toward the Waters version. Shouldn't be that hard.
The waters version still had him running it 154 times in 2014, good enough for 7th in the Big12 in rushing attempts. :frown:
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At least move more toward the Waters version. Shouldn't be that hard.
The waters version still had him running it 154 times in 2014, good enough for 7th in the Big12 in rushing attempts. :frown:
They need to move to the Chad May version. May was slow, but ran some here and there for a wrinkle. Good running back. Threw it all over the place. That was fun.
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We are going to QB run, but I'd like to see 5-8 called QB runs per game.
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all 3 of the rbs averaged 5 yards a carry. need to give them the ball more.
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We are going to QB run, but I'd like to see 5-8 called QB runs per game.
Yeah, less that 10 at least. Also maybe out of the bootleg since he's already good at moving to the side.
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Now is not the time to get a rational post from a true Cats fan. I can’t wait to see what Sky looks like with a full offseason and some swagger. I hope the bowl game just stokes my hopes instead of crushing them.
He finished the season like my all time guy Sisco did. We better get rid of the QB run game and use our 17,000 running backs or he's gonna face a similar ending fate.
he really didn't. how many last second, clutch drives did sisco lead? ertz is a good dude, but we didn't put him in a position to succeed, and his body gave out on him, and he actually wasn't that good. it wasn't his fault, but sky is better and i don't think respecting ertz and his efforts and thinking sky is better are mutually exclusive thoughts to have.
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Now is not the time to get a rational post from a true Cats fan. I can’t wait to see what Sky looks like with a full offseason and some swagger. I hope the bowl game just stokes my hopes instead of crushing them.
He finished the season like my all time guy Sisco did. We better get rid of the QB run game and use our 17,000 running backs or he's gonna face a similar ending fate.
he really didn't. how many last second, clutch drives did sisco lead? ertz is a good dude, but we didn't put him in a position to succeed, and his body gave out on him, and he actually wasn't that good. it wasn't his fault, but sky is better and i don't think respecting ertz and his efforts and thinking sky is better are mutually exclusive thoughts to have.
I was referring to last season, we didn't have fourth quarter comebacks because we kicked the crap out of everyone to finish last season.
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We played teams who were ready for Holiday Break going down the stretch last year.
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This year in winning 4 of our last 5, we beat 1-11 KU, 6-6 Tech, 9-3 OSU, and 7-5 ISU.
Last year in winning 5 of our last 6, we beat 5-7 UT, 3-9 ISU, 6-6 Baylor, 2-10 KU, 6-6 TCU.
Last year's team finished with a worse offense and special teams, but better defense.
Thompson impacted each of this year's last 3 wins over bowl teams in dramatic fashion.
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This year in winning 4 of our last 5, we beat 1-11 KU, 6-6 Tech, 9-3 OSU, and 7-5 ISU.
Last year in winning 5 of our last 6, we beat 5-7 UT, 3-9 ISU, 6-6 Baylor, 2-10 KU, 6-6 TCU.
Last year's team finished with a worse offense and special teams, but better defense.
Thompson impacted each of this year's last 3 wins over bowl teams in dramatic fashion.
This stat seems crazy to me. Maybe the Vandy/TCU/ISU games have skewed my perception.
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This year in winning 4 of our last 5, we beat 1-11 KU, 6-6 Tech, 9-3 OSU, and 7-5 ISU.
Last year in winning 5 of our last 6, we beat 5-7 UT, 3-9 ISU, 6-6 Baylor, 2-10 KU, 6-6 TCU.
Last year's team finished with a worse offense and special teams, but better defense.
Thompson impacted each of this year's last 3 wins over bowl teams in dramatic fashion.
This stat seems crazy to me. Maybe the Vandy/TCU/ISU games have skewed my perception.
Oops, I typed that wrong.
It should say last year had a better offense (by about 20 teams in the rating), better defense (by about 20) and worse special teams (by about 30).
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Love the ability to keep play alive, but IMO, also needs to realize when to throw it away. Seems there was an few times where he took a sack or ran for a yard when the best option was to get rid of it. Sure this will come with experience.
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This year in winning 4 of our last 5, we beat 1-11 KU, 6-6 Tech, 9-3 OSU, and 7-5 ISU.
Last year in winning 5 of our last 6, we beat 5-7 UT, 3-9 ISU, 6-6 Baylor, 2-10 KU, 6-6 TCU.
Last year's team finished with a worse offense and special teams, but better defense.
Thompson impacted each of this year's last 3 wins over bowl teams in dramatic fashion.
This stat seems crazy to me. Maybe the Vandy/TCU/ISU games have skewed my perception.
total points scored in regulation (including def and ST scores) with each opponent's defense ranking listed:
55 vs #113 charlotte
45 vs #43 osu
35 vs #51 ttu
35 vs #47 ou
33 vs #111 baylor
30 vs #112 ku
27 vs #9 ut
23 vs #95 wvu
20 vs #23 isu
7 vs #78 vandy
6 vs #3 tcu
this doesn't tell the whole story but obviously west virginia and vanderbilt jump out as hugely disappointing scoring performances
these were the scoring totals vandy gave up in SEC play (avert your eyes if you are squeamish):
59
38
45
57
34
44
45
24
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What a bizarre game Vandy was. Even knowing now that we weren’t good, it’s still just mind boggling.
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Vandy still ticks me off. My goodness what a pitiful offensive performance.
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Love the ability to keep play alive, but IMO, also needs to realize when to throw it away. Seems there was an few times where he took a sack or ran for a yard when the best option was to get rid of it. Sure this will come with experience.
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Yeah, there have been several times he's make it go from 1st and 10 to 2nd and 11 by running out instead of just tossing it. Agree it'll come in time.
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At least move more toward the Waters version. Shouldn't be that hard.
The waters version still had him running it 154 times in 2014, good enough for 7th in the Big12 in rushing attempts. :frown:
They need to move to the Chad May version. May was slow, but ran some here and there for a wrinkle. Good running back. Threw it all over the place. That was fun.
We've already got the stadium counting down the play clock like we did with May, might as well go all in.
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Side note, I think Delton is done if you were to believe this post.
https://www.bringonthecats.com/k-state-slate/2017/11/27/16704440/kansas-state-wildcats-fans-schadenfreude-tennessee-volunteers-expense-john-currie-greg-schiano#454127097
"BlackCats" This
Rumor is he’s done, with an eye to come back as a GA ASAP
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Damn. That sucks for Delton. Hope he doesn't have long term side effects from the concussions.
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I think he's just smart enough to not put his future in unnecessary risk for at best a couple more college football seasons. If he's really interested in coaching then showing that kind of judgment is a great start.
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Agreed. Happy for him, if true.
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Side note, I think Delton is done if you were to believe this post.
https://www.bringonthecats.com/k-state-slate/2017/11/27/16704440/kansas-state-wildcats-fans-schadenfreude-tennessee-volunteers-expense-john-currie-greg-schiano#454127097
"BlackCats" This
Rumor is he’s done, with an eye to come back as a GA ASAP
If true, we have zero depth next year. I would think they would go try to find a juco QB if this is accurate.
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Side note, I think Delton is done if you were to believe this post.
https://www.bringonthecats.com/k-state-slate/2017/11/27/16704440/kansas-state-wildcats-fans-schadenfreude-tennessee-volunteers-expense-john-currie-greg-schiano#454127097
"BlackCats" This
Rumor is he’s done, with an eye to come back as a GA ASAP
If true, we have zero depth next year. I would think they would go try to find a juco QB if this is accurate.
Don't we have one commit and a juco target already? Might look to land a grad transfer as well.
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Side note, I think Delton is done if you were to believe this post.
https://www.bringonthecats.com/k-state-slate/2017/11/27/16704440/kansas-state-wildcats-fans-schadenfreude-tennessee-volunteers-expense-john-currie-greg-schiano#454127097
"BlackCats" This
Rumor is he’s done, with an eye to come back as a GA ASAP
If true, we have zero depth next year. I would think they would go try to find a juco QB if this is accurate.
Don't we have one commit and a juco target already? Might look to land a grad transfer as well.
We do. Commit is John Holcombe. Not sure about the juco recruit though.
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Unfortunate but I can see why he'd make that choice. Would be great to see him play elsewhere on the field - but not at the risk of long term health.
Startin to feel little like 2015 again. Just hope we don't lose Skylar on the first snap of the season...
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Looks like Sammy Wheeler might be our backup next year. :horrorsurprise:
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the Holcombe kid is huge, like 6-4 235 or something stupid
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Looks like Sammy Wheeler might be our backup next year. :horrorsurprise:
If this is true, this will be our backup for now, assuming they red shirt Holcombe and we get no other additions.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2017/sammy-wheeler-181942
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Very good nickname possibilities for Slingin’ Sammy / Wheels. Very excited for the future.
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Next year will be interesting with the QB depth. It was re-iterated to me yesterday from someone who watched on the field daily that Sky was the best QB on the team from day 1 and just needed a chance. This is not news. It's just that everyone knew it, whether you were a janitor, a player, a coach, or a whatever.
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Could finally break out the Secret Sammy offensive package in mop up duty.
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Next year will be interesting with the QB depth. It was re-iterated to me yesterday from someone who watched on the field daily that Sky was the best QB on the team from day 1 and just needed a chance. This is not news. It's just that everyone knew it, whether you were a janitor, a player, a coach, or a whatever.
We've seen enough to know that Sky is far and away the most talented passer we had, the quarterback best suited to move the ball most efficiently. I think we also know that he was the third best quarterback when it comes to game management, which is obviously no surprise. He's also the third best runner. Given he's the third best game manager and the third best runner, it really shouldn't surprise anyone that this staff didn't hold his ability in the passing game in the same regard as the other stuff.
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Qb depth is definitely a concern after what we've experienced 2 out of the past 3 seasons. I mean MIR's man Hall saw a meaningful snap at a crucial time at OSU this year. I just hope we can keep Sky healthy next year.
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It's not like they asked Sky to do much designed running. It's possible he's a better runner than what we've been led to believe. They clearly didn't want him getting banged up.
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It's not like they asked Sky to do much designed running. It's possible he's a better runner than what we've been led to believe. They clearly didn't want him getting banged up.
He has 64 rushing attempts what amounts to 4 and a quarter games. In those 4.25 games he has more attempts than Warmack and Silmon and only ONE less than Sisco. Let that sit in. Not only does he has only one less rush than Sisco in much less playing time, but most of these rush attempts came with no backup. He's run far far far too much, and definitely enough to know he's far and away the third best runner.
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To be fair, quite a few of his rush attempts are him taking off when the pocket breaks down. IMO he often tucks and runs a little early, but that isn't a surprise for a younger guy.
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To be fair, quite a few of his rush attempts are him taking off when the pocket breaks down. IMO he often tucks and runs a little early, but that isn't a surprise for a younger guy.
True but it isn't like Sisco and Delton were throwing balls away either. It's pretty clear these guys are instructed to avoid that. Remember how frustrating it was when Klein would hold the ball in the pocket for what seemed like 20 minutes?
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I have noticed that thompson, in particular, more than Ertz, Waters, or Klein, has an aversion to throwing the ball away. I agree with _fan: it looks to me like inexperience.
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I think they tried to protect him from running against KU and TT. Once he was the starter against OSU, they just decided to let it rip some. Against OSU, I feel like KSU tried to take advantage of his lack of running on the first drive to force OSU to account for him. Once they did that, they tried to run him less.
Seems to me that they are trying to walk a line between protecting our last QB standing while acknowledging that he needs to run to have an offense that is even somewhat effective. I have a hard time comparing his carries to any of our RBs individually when their snap counts are so varied from game to game.
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To be fair, quite a few of his rush attempts are him taking off when the pocket breaks down. IMO he often tucks and runs a little early, but that isn't a surprise for a younger guy.
That was the point of my designed run comment.
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Not trying to argue, I just wanted to look it up because I didn't remember, Thompson had 10 rushes in the second half against KU :flush: what the hell were we doing?
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To be fair, quite a few of his rush attempts are him taking off when the pocket breaks down. IMO he often tucks and runs a little early, but that isn't a surprise for a younger guy.
That was the point of my designed run comment.
What percentage of his 64 runs would you guess are scrambles? Even if it was 20% that still gives him 50 rushes in 4 games. That's far too many for a third stringer and still enough to know that he's the third best runner.
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It seems to me that they've told him to avoid contact at all times. That would make a runner look less capable. But I still think, given our depth, its still too much. Let the rb's carry the load.
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Not trying to argue, I just wanted to look it up because I didn't remember, Thompson had 10 rushes in the second half against KU :flush: what the hell were we doing?
Yea, that was higher than I thought. I'm not sure how many were pass attempts or if some of that was due to Delton potentially being available still (Snyder said he was at half but he also tends to lie his ass off about QBs). I remember watching it thinking he wasn't running it much and was handing it off on reads where he should keep it. Not sure if the second part was due to inexperience or at the direction of coaches.
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I don't think there were a ton of designed runs down the stretch.
But of course with no other options and Sky already injured going into OSU, we come out and feature QB run game all the way down the field. :lol:
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I cant wait until he figures out that when he scrambles out of the pocket he can throw it away and not take a 2 yard loss every time
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I cant wait until he figures out that when he scrambles out of the pocket he can throw it away and not take a 2 yard loss and a hit every time
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yeah, he should have thrown it away on the last play against Iowa State, what was he thinking :rolleyes:
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yeah.. cause that's what I was talking about :lol:
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So this topic intrigued me a bit so I wanted to look up the other conference QB rushing attempts, especially given Baker, Kenny, and Will Grier are all good to great runners.
1. Sam Ehlinger 103 in 8 damn games :sdeek:
2. Alex Delton 80
3. Baker Mayfield 79
4. Kenny Hill 78
5. Charlie Brewer 65
6. Jesse Ertz 65
7. Skylar Thompson 64
8. Will Grier 63
If you were to break this down per snap, I'm definitely not doing that, I'd guess Delton, Ehlinger, Thompson would be 1, 2, 3.
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yeah, he should have thrown it away on the last play against Iowa State, what was he thinking :rolleyes:
He absolutely should have thrown that away. That was designed to be a fade that would have given us one or two more plays. He made a hell of a play but it wasn't the right play.
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yeah, he should have thrown it away on the last play against Iowa State, what was he thinking :rolleyes:
He absolutely should have thrown that away. That was designed to be a fade that would have given us one or two more plays. He made a hell of a play but it wasn't the right play.
Absolutely should have thrown it away - I was losing my mind to the point that the kids and dogs were hiding under sturdy furniture.
That said, the kid has the inner spark of an aggressive winner. Love it. Just might need to think about heart medication come August...
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sounds like you guys want an Alex Smith when we have a Brett Favre, smdh
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I'd be more excited about him if I didn't think Bill was forcing blood transfusions from him to get a few more years of life.
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yeah, he should have thrown it away on the last play against Iowa State, what was he thinking :rolleyes:
He absolutely should have thrown that away. That was designed to be a fade that would have given us one or two more plays. He made a hell of a play but it wasn't the right play.
I don't think it was a fade, but it was supposed to be a quick throw. Thompson looks left immediately, both Pringle and Rheuter run quick curl routes and begin to pin into out cuts. I think they were anticipating a different coverage after the miss on the previous back corner fade to Pringle.
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yeah, he should have thrown it away on the last play against Iowa State, what was he thinking :rolleyes:
He absolutely should have thrown that away. That was designed to be a fade that would have given us one or two more plays. He made a hell of a play but it wasn't the right play.
I don't think it was a fade, but it was supposed to be a quick throw. Thompson looks left immediately, both Pringle and Rheuter run quick curl routes and begin to pin into out cuts. I think they were anticipating a different coverage after the miss on the previous back corner fade to Pringle.
Zuber said in the postgame that his route was a fade though it was clear that Thompson wasn't looking over there on the snap. I had the thought that the play sequence was going to be fade left, fade right, fade left, run on 4th.
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yeah, he should have thrown it away on the last play against Iowa State, what was he thinking :rolleyes:
He absolutely should have thrown that away. That was designed to be a fade that would have given us one or two more plays. He made a hell of a play but it wasn't the right play.
I don't think it was a fade, but it was supposed to be a quick throw. Thompson looks left immediately, both Pringle and Rheuter run quick curl routes and begin to pin into out cuts. I think they were anticipating a different coverage after the miss on the previous back corner fade to Pringle.
Zuber said in the postgame that his route was a fade though it was clear that Thompson wasn't looking over there on the snap. I had the thought that the play sequence was going to be fade left, fade right, fade left, run on 4th.
Yeah, I heard that and wondered what he was talking about because he didn't run a fade either. They all ran pin and out routes. I'm guessing they had a read on their release and ran those off of the read.
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yeah, he should have thrown it away on the last play against Iowa State, what was he thinking :rolleyes:
He absolutely should have thrown that away. That was designed to be a fade that would have given us one or two more plays. He made a hell of a play but it wasn't the right play.
I don't think it was a fade, but it was supposed to be a quick throw. Thompson looks left immediately, both Pringle and Rheuter run quick curl routes and begin to pin into out cuts. I think they were anticipating a different coverage after the miss on the previous back corner fade to Pringle.
well considering snyds said this exact thing in his post game that's not going out on a limb FAN1
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Hot take, #skyguy could pass Jake Waters, and possibly CK7 as best QBs in Snyder 2.0 era :gocho:
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yeah, he should have thrown it away on the last play against Iowa State, what was he thinking :rolleyes:
He absolutely should have thrown that away. That was designed to be a fade that would have given us one or two more plays. He made a hell of a play but it wasn't the right play.
I don't think it was a fade, but it was supposed to be a quick throw. Thompson looks left immediately, both Pringle and Rheuter run quick curl routes and begin to pin into out cuts. I think they were anticipating a different coverage after the miss on the previous back corner fade to Pringle.
well considering snyds said this exact thing in his post game that's not going out on a limb FAN1
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:lol:
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Looks like Sammy Wheeler might be our backup next year. :horrorsurprise:
If this is true, this will be our backup for now, assuming they red shirt Holcombe and we get no other additions.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2017/sammy-wheeler-181942
Looks from film to be a very good battering ram style QB. :emawkid:
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https://twitter.com/thekstatefan/status/936434499512135680
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lit
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https://twitter.com/thekstatefan/status/936434499512135680
for both of these games i was out of my traditional seats and sitting lower rows in the SEZ
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https://twitter.com/thekstatefan/status/936434499512135680
for both of these games i was out of my traditional seats and sitting lower rows in the SEZ
The Bishop one was in the end zone fun zone, northeast corner.
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that's funny. on monday of this week i was on the phone with my dad (gE.c user "dumdeedum") and I said "you know what that last play reminded me of?" and he said "bishop to mcdonald?" i said "yep."
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https://twitter.com/thekstatefan/status/936434499512135680
for both of these games i was out of my traditional seats and sitting lower rows in the SEZ
I'm certain that the go ahead TD in Bill's first last game against mizzou, an underneath to Jordy(i think) was the same play that quincy morgan took in against nebraska in the snow.
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https://twitter.com/thekstatefan/status/936434499512135680
for both of these games i was out of my traditional seats and sitting lower rows in the SEZ
I'm certain that the go ahead TD in Bill's first last game against mizzou, an underneath to Jordy(i think) was the same play that quincy morgan took in against nebraska in the snow.
3:50 mark if the link doesn't take you there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iy0KU5Vgs0#t=03m50s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iy0KU5Vgs0#t=03m50s)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTLYquGrsPE
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I still see no appreciable difference between the 2 non-ertz quarterbacks, aside from the current amount of CTE.
They're still both fine, and their successes and failures will be situational.
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Well I absolutely would not discount the concussion issues and still think Delton should hang it up after this, but otherwise completely agree.
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Delton has the same concussion issues every other human has. Getting hit really hard on the head will give you a concussion.
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Delton has the same concussion issues every other human has. Getting hit really hard on the head will give you a concussion.
Now that he's presumably out of the woods for second impact syndrome, sure. That second concussion was a much bigger deal than people made it out to be. Second impact syndrome is real and it's deadly, happened in Ottawa somewhat recently.
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You may have seen this already http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/readers-opinion/guest-commentary/article191848169.html
Mom's claim in this article the NCAA does not have a return to play concussion policy like the NFL?
Tom
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You may have seen this already http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/readers-opinion/guest-commentary/article191848169.html
Mom's claim in this article the NCAA does not have a return to play concussion policy like the NFL?
Tom
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The fact that Delton was in after one of the cheap shots he took at tech was borderline criminal IMO
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These 2018 Cats aren’t that fun to watch, but that deep ball is a thing of beauty. :love:
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Constant under and overthrows, true beauty.
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Thing is sky is a sophomore and times he looks like it but he's going to be fun to watch the next three seasons. He was awful throwing the ball in the first quarter but it looks like things are slowing down for him.
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He...like half our team makes a lot of braindead plays.
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He...like half our team makes a lot of braindead plays.
Like what? He's missed a couple of throws, what else?
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He...like half our team makes a lot of braindead plays.
Like what? He's missed a couple of throws, what else?
Idk I just post angry crap during games. Some might call me a braindead poster.
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Those legs! :love:
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Purple Sky Warning
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There you go, hemmy
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:D
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He is reluctant to keep on the zone read - maybe he gets aggressive in Conference play
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Skylar throws a nice ball..........it makes me kind of sad that he doesn't have a kick ass receiving crew ..........if he did, i think the dude would just sling it all over the field.
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He is reluctant to keep on the zone read - maybe he gets aggressive in Conference play
Yes, we have not been greatly successful running the ball with our running backs so far.
What will happen, I predict, is that we will run the QB much more frequently in conference play.
It will work to get our running game going. The only question is whether Thompson can handle the beating.
Unfortunately, I think Delton will be our starter (because of injury) by the Baylor game.
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The road to rolling wildcats to purple is paved with the sketti brains of starting quarterbacks.
-ancient EMAW proverb
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He is reluctant to keep on the zone read - maybe he gets aggressive in Conference play
Yes, we have not been greatly successful running the ball with our running backs so far.
What will happen, I predict, is that we will run the QB much more frequently in conference play.
It will work to get our running game going. The only question is whether Thompson can handle the beating.
Unfortunately, I think Delton (whoever 3rd string QB is) will be our starter (because of injuries) by the Baylor game.
Fixed it
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Skyler is not good relative to his peers in the big 12. Maybe he's good relative to the KU and ISU guys but I doubt it.
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:lol:
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Watching on TV, I did not get the benefit of seeing the whole field, but I have good reason to believe our WRs suck at getting open in addition to catching.
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Watching on TV, I did not get the benefit of seeing the whole field, but I have good reason to believe our WRs suck at getting open in addition to catching.
Our OL sucks too. Which is probably more disappointing than Skyler.
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DO NOT blame this crap on skylar :cry:
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Both QBs looked better last year. If I was Skylar I would want to transfer.
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Both QBs looked better last year. If I was Skylar I would want to transfer.
That's the word on the street.
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https://twitter.com/tylerdreiling/status/1170714290766020609
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:lol:
And congrats wacky, Breck Fanning is a great QB name.
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Thanks, bud! I thought the same.
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Been a #SkyGuy since 2017
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Been a #SkyGuy since 2017
:opcat: (ftp://:opcat:)
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Been a #SkyGuy since 2017
:opcat: (ftp://:opcat:)<------<!
So WTF is this about? :dunno:
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Been a #SkyGuy since 2017
:opcat: (ftp://:opcat:)<------<!
So WTF is this about? :dunno:
Sorry, I had just come over from the pit..
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https://twitter.com/max_olson/status/1173692403015979009?s=19
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The apology thread when Sky goes in the 3rd round is gonna be amazing.
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The apology thread when Sky goes in the 3rd round is gonna be amazing.
We will all be living in Wacky's world that day.
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I can't stop thinking about how good my guy Sisco would have been with Kliemate Change. That '17 team was way better than this one.
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I can't stop thinking about how good my guy Sisco would have been with Kliemate Change. That '17 team was way better than this one.
Batter ram offense and weak knees are not a good combo.
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:whistle1:
https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/1175071492675162112?s=20
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Wacky is going to body bag 3/4 of this blog.
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:love: I might take off the following Monday after the draft just to BBS my lil heart out and dunk on every single one of you.
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Not all of us.
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:thumbs: I know. :cheers:
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:love: I might take off the following Monday after the draft just to BBS my lil heart out and dunk on every single one of you.
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Make sure your body is in shape and ready, I tore my rotator cuff like this after the 2016 election.
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:lol:
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:thumbs: I know. :cheers:
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Sky-walker has been my pilot since day one. :moreira: :bigtoke:
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:whistle1:
https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/1175071492675162112?s=20
wacky draft day 2021 may be the best day of your life
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What if he goes undrafted and signs with a team and makes the 53 man roster?
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:whistle1:
https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/1175071492675162112?s=20
wacky draft day 2021 may be the best day of your life
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What if he goes undrafted and signs with a team and makes the 53 man roster?
Counts. I don’t have the want to, to look it up, but I believe it started by me saying he’s got NFL intangibles and has a shot at the league and everyone lost their collective crap.
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Official rules are that on opening day of the nfl season Skyler had to be on a roster, doesn’t matter how he gets there.
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Official rules are that on opening day of the nfl season Skyler had to be on a roster, doesn’t matter how he gets there.
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Practice squad counts too, right? Teams only carry two QB’s on the 53 these days.
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No
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Must be #1 overall pick and opening day starter.
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If the dude ever gets an NFL paycheck, it counts fellas. Sorry.
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Practice squad is a push at best for you
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would take. He’s not going to be a franchise QB. He has a lot of Colt McCoy type career in him.
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I mean sky played ok on the last drive and overtime, but I don't get being down on Delton. Sky certainly didn't look like any kind of senior qb to me for the vast majority of his time on the field.
Don't get me wrong, he might be really good but I think declaring him the starter from now on and dumping Delton seems a bit crazy.
Stick to IT, rook.
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:dubious:
:D
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I’d start Dylan (RIP) over Thompson every day
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Sky has looked great today. Lineup and apologize ASAP!
Sky and Carson Coffman, 2 peas in a pod
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I don’t care if Thompson transfers. He’s not very good.
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Like maybe 5 NFL QB’s do that right now
You’re on the wrong side of this one, friend. Thompson is trash.
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Don’t you dare backpedal to the practice squad. He’s making a 53 man roster and you are going to flaunt that crap in the haters faces for weeks and months.
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wacky you deserve this one
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:cheers:
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Sky all the way for me. (GTFOOMF Alex Delton)
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What has he done wrong this game, Chings?
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:blank:
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Wake me up when he converts a third down.
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What has he done wrong this game, Chings?
Well he did just miss a wide open guy right in front of him in favor of trying to run for the first down, which of course cost us our only chance at converting a third down tonight (and squandered us getting the ball out of halftime). But everyone is culpable in this gigantic turd of a game.
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Yes, this happened after my post. He has no one to throw to right now. Even when he puts one on a dime, it’s on a worthless go route to one of our many shitty TE’s.
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Let me be clear: this game isn't Skylar's fault. But if he was a better QB it would help.
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Yes, this happened after my post. He has no one to throw to right now. Even when he puts one on a dime, it’s on a worthless go route to one of our many shitty TE’s.
This is true. He has made a few throws that have just been straight up dropped. It's an awful game all around. At this point I would legit like us to just play John Holcomb II and see him just wildcattin' around. Let's just 2009 Daniel Thomas the rest of this thing, maybe it'd at least make it semi-interesting.
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MODS, please change my name to Fanman69 when I win the bet.
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Would love a Loop of our seal squad today.
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MODS, please change my name to Fanman69 when I win the bet.
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Link pls
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He threw to 3 walk ons today with Malik out🤷???
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He wasn't good fanman. He didn't step up in the pocket at all, like never. He was fading away and right all night. Like Chingon said, the loss wasn't his fault but he reverted back to old habits that people blamed on the old staff. He's got to stand in the pocket and learn how to buy himself time. Last night he played like a one read quarterback.
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he missed a few reads, but when you have 5'6 wide receivers to throw to, it's probably hard to see them out there
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He doesn’t look like an NFL player today.
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Great take, dumbass.
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:lol:
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Most nfl QBs suuuuuuuuuuuck, though
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Hey eff faces, shut up!
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I just think everyone should know WN told filly I was talking bad about her back in the day on here so he could pray he got some 2nd hand crap by being a bitch. That is all. Go cats!
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Ftr I was being serious
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Ball game.
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Wacky, I’m looking forward to you leaving the board when skyler takes a GA position at fort hays. Can you even imagine thinking this guy was an NFL QB?
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He would be a great GA at Fort Hays, though.
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someone should tell skyguy we dont get points for dropping back for 2 seconds then jogging to the right sideline
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Wacky, I’m looking forward to you leaving the board when skyler takes a GA position at fort hays. Can you even imagine thinking this guy was an NFL QB?
Grats, bud. Sorry I hurt your friend Stevesie’s feelings.
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He would be a great GA at Fort Hays, though.
No comment to your narking? Classic.
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Wacky, I’m looking forward to you leaving the board when skyler takes a GA position at fort hays. Can you even imagine thinking this guy was an NFL QB?
Grats, bud. Sorry I hurt your friend Stevesie’s feelings.
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The Venn diagram of this and that doesn’t overlap
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Stevesie is somehow an angel to you dorks. He personally insulted me many times back in the day and then couldn’t have children, adopted kids and left his wife, remarried with a crap ton of adopted kids, still gets high AF with said kids and he’s your rough ridin' hero. He serves you drinks, he’s not Batman dumbasses.
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Wacky, no
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Wtf
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Sorry, I’m over it.
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Wtf
I know, right?
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He would be a great GA at Fort Hays, though.
No comment to your narking? Classic.
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Hey man you are reaching back pretty far and also assuming I’m the only one on the board that knew her. Pretty sure I was giving you the heads up Vs narking. Aren’t you happily married now? Weird post.
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Rename this thread something more appropriate right
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Dude is allergic to throwing the ball away.
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I am. That was the most wtf thing of my lifetime tho. You were the only one.
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I’m pretty sad about holcombe now :-(
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I am. That was the most wtf thing of my lifetime tho. You were the only one.
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The only one that gave you a heads up? Yep you are welcome. I was trying to get you to shut up. Didn’t nark though. :frown: Remember you have been very open about who you are on this board for a long time. That didn’t work in your favor then.
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You didn’t give a heads up. You spewed your crap. There was no problem until you reached out to her. I’m definitely happily married, but when you post I think of a shitty troll who tries too hard for ass.
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You didn’t give a heads up. You spewed your crap. There was no problem until you reached out to her. I’m definitely happily married, but when you post I think of a shitty troll who tries too hard for ass.
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Yea man you are way off base. I’ve been married for 10 years and haven’t lived in Manhattan for more than that. But whatever gives you peace. :dunno:
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This must be what validation feels like :gocho:
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weird thread
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Watching sky yesterday was tragic. That was such a boring ass game. :frown:
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Rename this thread something more appropriate right
It's good. It's just a low, overcast sky.
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He’s also still the best we got so far, so Im sticking with it.
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Skywalker will change your minds before he leaves this team. TRUST ME!!! :th_twocents:
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We're heading for a 5-7 record and you dumb asses are surprised, SMH. :facepalm:
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feel like i def missed whatever the eff was going on saturday in wacky's world
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Level 7?
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I can’t get over how big the difference between a scrambling Charlie Brewer and a scrambling Skylar Thompson was Saturday. Every time Brewer was forced to improvise you held your breath because he was calm, perceptive and decisive leading to play after big play. Thompson on the other hand looked utterly clueless in these same situations.
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i didn't watch the game saturday, how much of it was skylar vs having below average receivers?
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I’d say skyler has a very difficult time “whizzing it in there” which is important to be able to do when your WRs “suck crap” so I’d say a combo of both.
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Rename this thread something more appropriate right
Thread title is still accurate, just not in a good way
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i didn't watch the game saturday, how much of it was skylar vs having below average receivers?
Prob has some to do with it, but guys were open as guys usually get open when QBs scramble. Granted, BUs pass rushers are prob faster than ours as well.
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Look at the dog crap front line. He's running for his life most of the time with a slue of dog crap WR's. If Jaylan Hurts had to operate behind this line he wouldn't be a Heisman's candidate; that's for sure.
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I’m pretty sad about holcombe now :-(
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Yep :cry:
and we all will be even sadder if Sky gets hurt and Joe Hubener has to play . . .
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:love: :surprised:
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Converting that 4th down on the last drive was nails. He did just enough to win today.
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More GOOD than bad! Honestly great to see him bounce back.
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He ran that last drive for the win like the true champ we all know him to be.
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11/23 172 yards, great bounce back
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11/23 172 yards, great bounce back
Print that dub. Print it long and print it good.
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Go back and read this thread, I haven't really been tough on him, he was rough ridin' AWFUL today, AWFUL!!! That being said I'm glad he nutted up at the end of the game. Dude overthrew not one, not two, not three, but four different seam/go routes that all would have been touchdowns if properly thrown. Their safeties didn't even attempt to cover deep receivers. And how about him pitching the ball 8 yards backwards to the ground, woof.
He still struggled most of the time with moving up in the pocket. He did seem to get more comfortable stepping up as the game went along, although he backfooted that pass along the sideline to Malik, as nice of a pass and catch it was. Klieman made a really big show about praising Skylar after the touchdown pass to the homie Wyking.
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Also can you imagine the score today if both teams traded quarterbacks? We win by at least 24.
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He just doesn't appear comfortable in the pocket. And he probably shouldn't.
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Also can you imagine the score today if both teams traded quarterbacks? We win by at least 24.
I agree with this, and I'd go further and say that if we had called the same number of QB runs that they called we would have won with a comfortable margin.
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https://twitter.com/cffmwachsman/status/1185918601645252614?s=21
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:sdeek: Is that more damning of that metric or of the quality of college quarterbacks
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MY rough ridin' GUY!
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Dude is crushing it today.
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Pillboi
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Best game as a cat
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Pounded the dang stone
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Pounded the dang end zone really
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#OurGuy freakin’ Al Buddy’s today. STUD
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Wacky you have earned this. Go get up to a level 11. Happy for you, bud. He was nails!
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Wacky you have earned this. Go get up to a level 11. Happy for you, bud. He was nails!
:cheers:
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Happy #SkyDay Wacks!
https://twitter.com/oklahomacat/status/1188158018845892608
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OMG! :love:
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I just unblocked him for finally spitting the truth. He rough ridin' balled today.
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Skyler was dealing and making great decisions
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Sky has been part of two amazing games I’ll always remember. The walk off vs ISU and today. I wish whoever didn’t bring up how he only looks at one WR out of a play, because he does, and I definitely noticed that today, but whatever. What an amazing win!
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He ran like a got damn man today!
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I just unblocked him for finally spitting the truth. He rough ridin' balled today.
We’re friends again!
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Cheers, bud!
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It’s pretty great reuniting friends after a Cats win
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Wacky, I’m looking forward to you leaving the board when skyler takes a GA position at fort hays. Can you even imagine thinking this guy was an NFL QB?
This guy's prospective of Skywaker is very stupid; don't you agree, Wacky.
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https://twitter.com/skylar_15/status/1188208169153126400?s=21
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Wacky, I’m looking forward to you leaving the board when skyler takes a GA position at fort hays. Can you even imagine thinking this guy was an NFL QB?
This guy's prospective of Skywaker is very stupid; don't you agree, Wacky.
He’s a fellow cat, so meow, but I still think he loves me deep down. Cats!
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It’s pretty great reuniting friends after a Cats win
#1cat always
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Wacky, I’m looking forward to you leaving the board when skyler takes a GA position at fort hays. Can you even imagine thinking this guy was an NFL QB?
This guy's prospective of Skywaker is very stupid; don't you agree, Wacky.
He’s a fellow cat, so meow, but I still think he loves me deep down. Cats!
Should have made this clear. I am speaking of Skywaker ability, which I have always believed in. :crossfingers:
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Wacky, I’m looking forward to you leaving the board when skyler takes a GA position at fort hays. Can you even imagine thinking this guy was an NFL QB?
This guy's prospective of Skywaker is very stupid; don't you agree, Wacky.
He’s a fellow cat, so meow, but I still think he loves me deep down. Cats!
I think sky is a pretty good Cats QB. He’s no Matt Moore tho
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:cheers: Damn straight!
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Skywalker will be listed with Freeman, Bishop, Klein, Beasley, and Ell as great KSU QB's. :billdance:
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That kid today, man. That kid. Love him.
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Tonight he is king.
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#OurGuy freakin’ Al Buddy’s today. STUD
Upon further review mad that I didn’t notice while driving down LHC Bill Snyder Family Highway that autocorrect boffed this up so bad. Skyguy Al Bundy’d today. He freakin’ Al Bundy’d. 4 tds in one game. Last guy to do that was...Bazooka Joe??
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Sky has been part of two amazing games I’ll always remember. The walk off vs ISU and today. I wish whoever didn’t bring up how he only looks at one WR out of a play, because he does, and I definitely noticed that today, but whatever. What an amazing win!
'17 OSU?
I think it's pretty clear that they need to let him run more like they did today, it seems to give him an overall confidence boost. He was a grown man in the pocket.
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Yeah, that was a good one too.
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:love:
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Offense is way more effective with the threat of the QB run. We don’t have a viable backup tho so hopefully he can avoid contact.
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https://twitter.com/thecheckdown/status/1190732348792299520?s=21
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Skyler was great
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Dumbass poster nicname made multiple posts about Skylar Thompson being oddly emotional and perhaps needing coddling. Said posts were in part in relation to the decently widely circulated theories and questions about about his body language earlier this season.
LMFAO, I'm an actual idiot.
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Dumbass poster nicname made multiple posts about Skylar Thompson being oddly emotional and perhaps needing coddling. Said posts were in part in relation to the decently widely circulated theories and questions about about his body language earlier this season.
LMFAO, I'm an actual idiot.
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Thank you for apologizing. Us #ForevaSky fans do appreciate you finally know what we knew all along.
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Your weekly bump, for my guy!
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I’m a rough ridin' idiot for ever questioning him. I pray for forgiveness.
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Your weekly bump, for my guy!
SteadyEddie69, what kind of draft round are we looking at for our guy skylar? 4th? 5th?
How high could he rise after a heisman season next year? 1st?
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6th round for the Patriots and a decade of dominance.
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Just came in here to say
Woof
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But he wears the black eye shade makeup thing like a boss? :dunno:
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He's not good but he's the best we've got
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He's not good but he's the best we've got
Youngblood.
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I've thought about it and this is how they flood aggie'd this up this year. They managed to lose by double digits facing the worst statistical performance from a conference QB this season. Even Carter Stanley had a better QBR against Baylor today.
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Just came in here to say
Woof
Yeah, the dropped passes and gale force wind his doing too. :rolleyes:
Sure he had his eff-ups but that's what makes him so luvable. :love:
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He has become a very dangerous runner, its too bad he has a mediocre arm and pocket presence.
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His happy feet and slow reads are what’s stopping him from really getting the offense going. Klein made huge strides in that department between his JR and SR years so there is still hope.
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Pro Football Focus graded Kansas State senior Skylar Thompson with a 7.1% big-time throw rate, which ranked third in the FBS.
Believe it or not, Thompson's big-time throw rate placed one spot ahead of the godly Joe Burrow. Granted, Burrow's down-to-down consistency was significantly higher, but beating out Burrow in any category is quite the feat for Thompson. Thompson (6'2/212) is one of CFB's best dual-threat quarterbacks, making a name for himself as a rushing threat who can rip deep throws down the field. If Thompson can shore up some of the intermediate accuracy, he may be a force in the Big 12 in 2020.
https://www.pff.com/news/college-football-the-best-returning-player-for-all-130-fbs-teams-ahead-of-the-2020-college-football-season
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Validation must feel good for gE scout 420seriouscat69
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:gocho:
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Skywalker will be listed with Freeman, Bishop, Klein, Beasley, and Ell as great KSU QB's. :billdance:
Yea, it was just Wacky. :confused:
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He's my guy, guys!
https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/1357780794417291265?s=20
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He's my guy, guys!
https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/1357780794417291265?s=20
Translation: Saban called and Sky said to get lost.
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7
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It's a good number
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https://twitter.com/SXMCollege/status/1395738869413339136
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https://twitter.com/jimnagy_sb/status/1416754591950069762?s=21
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lol, he was understandably mum about what his injury was when he was asked at media day on Tuesday. Someone at Manning Camp had no problem putting his business out there tho.
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https://twitter.com/jimnagy_sb/status/1416754591950069762?s=21
I want nothing more than for Sky to ball out this year and get drafted in the 6th round so Wacky can go back and bump all of his posts from 3 years ago.
Just mush it in our faces.
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:love:
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Yeah, go sky go.
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Oh boy, this could be the greatest victory lap that anyone has ever earned on goEMAW
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YES FANNING!
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We would all be fatdamon in the lawl thread
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You can do this Wacky and Skyler!
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One thing I would personally do is dunk on all of the haters and losers OF WHICH THERE ARE MANY alongside my man wacky if this happens
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It would be a glorious day, bud! We got this! :cheers:
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Someone with a subscription needs to tell me if Derrick Young is as smart as Wacky
https://kansasstate.rivals.com/news/fact-or-fiction-skylar-thompson-is-drafted-in-2022
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Yeah, post it!
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Skylar's getting to be relatively old which won't help for the developmental prospect that he would be. There is absolutely no way in hell he gets drafted.
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I'm actually about 80/20 that he goes undrafted but I'm going to hope that last post can be quoted and thrown in my face in a year.
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I don't know where the Skylar to the NFL talk started with me, but it's not in this thread, so i'm going to have to do some digging. He can still go UDFA and stick to a 53 man roster or practice squad and I win the bet. So, get ready to pay up, fellas! Also, didn't Weeden get drafted in the first round at like 43 years old? Watch the Panthers take him in the 6th or 7th.
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I don't know where the Skylar to the NFL talk started with me, but it's not in this thread, so i'm going to have to do some digging. He can still go UDFA and stick to a 53 man roster or practice squad and I win the bet. So, get ready to pay up, fellas! Also, didn't Weeden get drafted in the first round at like 43 years old? Watch the Panthers take him in the 6th or 7th.
Oh hey look at that
If Thompson gets signed to an NFL team I’ll delete my account.
If he doesn’t, then you delete yours.
Deal?
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Total deal!
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:cheers: Was that in here?
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Lol Thompson will be in the NFL. We don’t have receivers dumb dumb
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I’ll give you 2500 to 1 odds on a $1 bet that Thompson never takes a regular season NFL snap as a QB
He’ll be on a roster
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Man, wacky should have taken that bet.
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:cheers: Was that in here?
No it was in the quoted thread.
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Thanks, fam!
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We would all be fatdamon in the lawl thread
lawl ya rite the lawl thread was one of the all-time worst takes in internet herstory
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We would all be fatdamon in the lawl thread
lawl ya rite the lawl thread was one of the all-time worst takes in internet herstory
no even kelly in vegas gets all of her picks correct
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Does Kelly in Vegas make draft projections? Hopefully she could give some input here.
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https://twitter.com/KellisRobinett/status/1437230386933870599?s=19
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praise be!
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How can we miraculously figure out a way to beat Nevada without Skyler? If we beat Nevada, and then win 4 out of the last 6, this season is salvaged, IMO.
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If we beat Nevada, and then win 4 out of the last 6, this season is salvaged, IMO.
Salvaged from what? We're 2-0.
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How can we miraculously figure out a way to beat Nevada without Skyler?
:lynchmob: :pray:
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The defense has got this.
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Gonna need a special teams touchdown.
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Deuce is good for a score. So we just need to keep them under 14 assuming a special teams TD.
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Defense is due for a touchdown, could have had a scoop and score last night.
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Thank you 'lil baby Jesus!
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Did anyone see the aftermath of sky’s interception? Sounds like it’s where he sustained his injury.
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As long as we can keep their defense from scoring touchdowns, we should be fine. We just need Howard to not be Howard.
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Did anyone see the aftermath of sky’s interception? Sounds like it’s where he sustained his injury.
Looked like on of our lineman trucked him pretty good making the tackle out of bounds. I thought to myself he's a little dazed, but he made that throw moving to his right to Malik after that, so his knee was still good then.
My completely uneducated guess, if there is any damage in the knee, is a torn meniscus. And possibly felt a pop and his knee locked up. But it could be a litany of things.
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I don't know where the Skylar to the NFL talk started with me, but it's not in this thread, so i'm going to have to do some digging. He can still go UDFA and stick to a 53 man roster or practice squad and I win the bet. So, get ready to pay up, fellas! Also, didn't Weeden get drafted in the first round at like 43 years old? Watch the Panthers take him in the 6th or 7th.
Oh hey look at that
If Thompson gets signed to an NFL team I’ll delete my account.
If he doesn’t, then you delete yours.
Deal?
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Total deal!
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Welp!
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I don't know where the Skylar to the NFL talk started with me, but it's not in this thread, so i'm going to have to do some digging. He can still go UDFA and stick to a 53 man roster or practice squad and I win the bet. So, get ready to pay up, fellas! Also, didn't Weeden get drafted in the first round at like 43 years old? Watch the Panthers take him in the 6th or 7th.
Oh hey look at that
If Thompson gets signed to an NFL team I’ll delete my account.
If he doesn’t, then you delete yours.
Deal?
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Total deal!
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Welp!
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Nobody's deleting crap
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https://twitter.com/ShrineBowl/status/1475943091584569345
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:emawkid:
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https://twitter.com/ShrineBowl/status/1475943091584569345
With this I assume it’s safe to say he’s playing on Tuesday as well
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https://twitter.com/kstatefb/status/1478600212776198147?s=21
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https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/1478605194531377153?s=21
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https://twitter.com/jlkurtz/status/1478605194531377153?s=21
Great stuff. Really happy for Skylar and Coach.
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If recency bias exists for NFL teams then this is about as good of a shot at making a roster as Sky was going to get.
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If recency bias exists for NFL teams then this is about as good of a shot at making a roster as Sky was going to get.
I just want him to go to a camp and make friends at this point and then comeback and be a badass coach for someone.
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Wacks, you are really close to doing the ultimate BBS touchdown dance in all of our faces. I really really hope you get the chance to. :cheers:
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Wacks, you are really close to doing the ultimate BBS touchdown dance in all of our faces. I really really hope you get the chance to. :cheers:
:pray:
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He looked like a legit NFL roster level quarterback last night. The throw velocity/accuracy as well as running looked to be fully back from all of the injuries for the first time in months.
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The talking heads last night said he most likely will be drafted late round
Edit: I mentioned before that the NFL scouts ranked him as the #8 QB for the draft.
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I could definitely imagine scouts seeing a higher ceiling than he showed in college if he stays healthy and is given a solid offensive game plan.
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He still has a Senior Bowl to improve his stock too
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That sumbitch might just make it.
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That sumbitch might just make it.
Doesn't count, you forgot the "of a". :D
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Team Sky
Doing some archaeology to see who the posters are that should get props for being early on the Skylar Thompson bandwagon.
Catastrophe should get some recognition for starting the sky is the limit thread
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This would be severely disappointing news. I've been Sky high since the spring game.
Catastrophe doubling down after rumors of Sky transferring after 2017
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Since we have no chance to do anything meaningful this season, I’m on board with this, although I still think Sky has the higher ceiling and should be starting for the same reasons.
This. Thompson has the broader skill set (can run and can make every throw) and a higher ceiling. Now that Ertz is out, not playing Thompson at all makes no sense. And he has been on campus for what, almost two years now? He knows enough to freakin' play.
The Truth steps up to the plate
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K-State QBs rushing attempts per game for their careers:
Matt Miller 11.7
Michael Bishop 10.6
Jonathan Beasley 8.1
Ell Roberson 14.7
Collin Klein 16.7
Jake Waters 10.5
Jesse Ertz 14.2
I know that the last 4 multi-year starters all had shoulder injuries of some sort. Dylan Meier did also, though he didn't run it as much.
Honestly, I don't think the opportunities for hits taken have changed much since Ell. The Bishop/Beasley teams were a little more selective with QB runs, but starting with Ell the QB run game became the feature part of the offense leading to the culmination of Collin Klein the battering ram. It tapered a bit with Waters (though he still played hurt) and then Ertz is supposed to be another Klein.
Quality post by fan worth resurrecting IMHO. This thread also makes me sad that Ertz spent most of his career injured, the guy was a stud and I was really excited for 2017 after the 2016 Texas bowl win against Texas A&M
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Let's roll with Sky for the final 4 games and prepare for next year. Let the two Alexi transfer and move forward.
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Sky is totally The Guy
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You guys are helping opponents prepare for the cats smdh
GPC would never help a team prepare unlike KSO and gE. Damn.
[tweet]918198004666064897[/tweet]
lol. Classic Fitz
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It's gonna be weird as a K-State fan watching him moving forward tho. On paper, not a K-State QB, his intangibles don't fit well with a KSU offense. But they did today, so who cares! Cats!
Wacky = early anti-sky
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It's gonna be weird as a K-State fan watching him moving forward tho. On paper, not a K-State QB, his intangibles don't fit well with a KSU offense. But they did today, so who cares! Cats!
so, say, hypothetically, that sky plays against vandy, texas, and ou, and our coaches let him push it down the field and let our runnings back run. we win all those games, right? just cater to the guy's talents. not that hard. he's got arm talent, he's mobile enough to just make plays. i hope our coaches are now finally forced to call a game for the qb they have and stop trying to force something that they thinks works but doesn't fit the personnel. bc there aren't any more viable qb's to get killed. sky is it. ride or die.
pvegs jumps on. To be honest, it’s hard to determine who is pro sky and who is anti-Snyder battering ram offensive play calling. And what the eff is a pvegs?
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Sky, a redshirt freshman, while at the opening drive in the 2nd half, did look like it. At the end of the game (when not crippled by awful play calling), he looked like a seasoned 5th year SR.
I think it's obvious that it's time to give the reigns to Sky.
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Starting anyone but Sky moving forward should be a fireable offense.
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I love him
Eyes always downfield, no panic, cool as a cucumber
With a competent coaching staff he could be great
I’m assuming good for another is talking about Skyler here, but he absolutely nails it. If this thread doesn’t emphasize the need for Snyder to retire and what a blessing it was for Skyler Thompson that we hired Chris Klieman, I don’t know what does.
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It's gonna be weird as a K-State fan watching him moving forward tho. On paper, not a K-State QB, his intangibles don't fit well with a KSU offense. But they did today, so who cares! Cats!
Wacky = early anti-sky
Nah. We've just never really been a passing team. I knew he could rope it, but we never had the receivers for him.
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It's gonna be weird as a K-State fan watching him moving forward tho. On paper, not a K-State QB, his intangibles don't fit well with a KSU offense. But they did today, so who cares! Cats!
Wacky = early anti-sky
Nah. We've just never really been a passing team. I knew he could rope it, but we never had the receivers for him.
Yes, that’s why I mentioned that it was hard to tell pro sky versus anti-battering ram offense
Wacks, where is your bet with OK cat that Skyler would be on an NFL roster?
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Thompson is legit.
_Fan endorsement
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This seals it for me for Thompson. I still love Delton but the TT, OSU and now this speak for themselves.
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It's gonna be weird as a K-State fan watching him moving forward tho. On paper, not a K-State QB, his intangibles don't fit well with a KSU offense. But they did today, so who cares! Cats!
Wacky = early anti-sky
Nah. We've just never really been a passing team. I knew he could rope it, but we never had the receivers for him.
Yes, that’s why I mentioned that it was hard to tell pro sky versus anti-battering ram offense
Wacks, where is your bet with OK cat that Skyler would be on an NFL roster?
Good call. Dlew found it a few months ago. I honestly don't know. I think it's in here. I believe it got dragged across a couple of threads. I've always loved that MF!
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Watching him move up and side to side in the pocket is beautiful.
To be fair, rain, does not seem to be the kind of guy that makes outlandish claims and predictions rather just stick to the facts, it appears that he has been a team Skyler guy pretty early on in the process.
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Now is not the time to get a rational post from a true Cats fan. I can’t wait to see what Sky looks like with a full offseason and some swagger. I hope the bowl game just stokes my hopes instead of crushing them.
He finished the season like my all time guy Sisco did. We better get rid of the QB run game and use our 17,000 running backs or he's gonna face a similar ending fate.
I guess we could abandon our offensive identity and start anew. Why not?
We're gonna have to. Just watched the KSO postgame and Thompson said he's been hurt the last two games. They're going to ruin him.
Yes, it is becoming obvious that rain is all in on Skyler fairly early
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This year in winning 4 of our last 5, we beat 1-11 KU, 6-6 Tech, 9-3 OSU, and 7-5 ISU.
Last year in winning 5 of our last 6, we beat 5-7 UT, 3-9 ISU, 6-6 Baylor, 2-10 KU, 6-6 TCU.
Last year's team finished with a worse offense and special teams, but better defense.
Thompson impacted each of this year's last 3 wins over bowl teams in dramatic fashion.
wow. _Fan was a treasure for this board. Curse you, Derek Young for giving him a platform. Anybody know if _Fan is compensated at rivals or if he is making the move with them to on3?
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Weird thread. Wacky has definitely always been pro-Sky, not sure that’s debatable.
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The apology thread when Sky goes in the 3rd round is gonna be amazing.
We will all be living in Wacky's world that day.
This thread jumped right over the 2018 crap show. That would be a fun thread to look through for the Delton versus Thompson debates. It doesn’t have the wacky bet that Skyler would make a roster. I would like to find that
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Weird thread. Wacky has definitely always been pro-Sky, not sure that’s debatable.
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That seems to be the general consensus, but I don’t think catastrophe gets enough credit for his Skyler love
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The apology thread when Sky goes in the 3rd round is gonna be amazing.
We will all be living in Wacky's world that day.
This thread jumped right over the 2018 crap show. That would be a fun thread to look through for the Delton versus Thompson debates. It doesn’t have the wacky bet that Skyler would make a roster. I would like to find that
I don't remember anyone openly advocating for Delton over Skylar. I recall people really frustrated with how Snyder handled the QBs but IIRC Alex was not viewed as the guy. I think the last true QB controversy was Jonathan Banks vs. Bazooka Joe.
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I wasn't effusive in my praise with Skylar, but I don't think I said anything I would be embarrassed about.