Should the public pay for sexual organ realignment?

[MakeItRain]

Inmates should receive the same care all us citizens should receive.

I agree 100%




That being said the state shouldn't be paying for that surgery

I agree with both of those statements. I don't know, and am open to hearing, which if any insurance companies cover this type of surgery.

Yes most, likely all, insurance companies offer coverage for gender reassignment surgery and subsequent hormone treatments in addition to pre-surgical and post-op psychiatric services.

[Canary]

Inmates should receive the same care all us citizens should receive.

I agree 100%




That being said the state shouldn't be paying for that surgery

I agree with both of those statements. I don't know, and am open to hearing, which if any insurance companies cover this type of surgery.

Yes most, likely all, insurance companies offer coverage for gender reassignment surgery and subsequent hormone treatments in addition to pre-surgical and post-op psychiatric services.

So maybe I have to rethink my position on that. 

[MakeItRain]

Inmates should receive the same care all us citizens should receive.

I agree 100%




That being said the state shouldn't be paying for that surgery

I agree with both of those statements. I don't know, and am open to hearing, which if any insurance companies cover this type of surgery.

Yes most, likely all, insurance companies offer coverage for gender reassignment surgery and subsequent hormone treatments in addition to pre-surgical and post-op psychiatric services.

So maybe I have to rethink my position on that.

Why? What does insurance coverage have to do with anything? Prisoners aren't paying insurance premiums, that's why we're discussing taxpayers covering this surgery. There are a lot of things that insurance will cover that I'm not sure people would be comfortable with prisoners getting.

[michigancat]

Inmates should receive the same care all us citizens should receive.

I agree 100%




That being said the state shouldn't be paying for that surgery

I agree with both of those statements. I don't know, and am open to hearing, which if any insurance companies cover this type of surgery. 

quick google search:

Requirements for genital reconstructive surgery (i.e., vaginectomy, urethroplasty, metoidioplasty, phalloplasty, scrotoplasty, and placement of a testicular prosthesis and erectile prosthesis in female to male; penectomy, vaginoplasty, labiaplasty, and clitoroplasty in male to female)

    Two referral letters from qualified mental health professionals, one in a purely evaluative role (see appendix); and
    Persistent, well-documented gender dysphoria (see Appendix); and
    Capacity to make a fully informed decision and to consent for treatment; and
    Age of majority (age 18 years and older); and
    If significant medical or mental health concerns are present, they must be reasonably well controlled; and
    Twelve months of continuous hormone therapy as appropriate to the member’s gender goals (unless the member has a medical contraindication or is otherwise unable or unwilling to take hormones); and
    Twelve months of living in a gender role that is congruent with their gender identity (real life experience).

Plenty more interesting information:
http://www.aetna.com/cpb/medical/data/600_699/0615.html

There's also this:

Regulators in nine states and the District of Columbia have also introduced laws banning insurance discrimination against treatments for gender reassignment. The other eight are California, Colorado, Connecticut, Illinois, Massachusetts, Oregon, Vermont and Washington, according to the Transgender Legal Defense & Education Fund. “But some insurers still deny claims and flout the law until someone pushes back against them,” says Michael Silverman, executive director at Transgender Legal Defense and Education Fund. Last December, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo told insurers in a letter: “An issuer may not deny medically necessary treatment otherwise covered by a health insurance policy solely on the basis that the treatment is for gender dysphoria.”

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obamacare-states-and-insurers-make-gender-reassignment-surgery-more-accessible-2015-06-02

^really surprised info in this article wasn't a big conservative anti-obamacare talking point

[Canary]

Inmates should receive the same care all us citizens should receive.

I agree 100%




That being said the state shouldn't be paying for that surgery

I agree with both of those statements. I don't know, and am open to hearing, which if any insurance companies cover this type of surgery.

Yes most, likely all, insurance companies offer coverage for gender reassignment surgery and subsequent hormone treatments in addition to pre-surgical and post-op psychiatric services.

So maybe I have to rethink my position on that.

Why? What does insurance coverage have to do with anything? Prisoners aren't paying insurance premiums, that's why we're discussing taxpayers covering this surgery. There are a lot of things that insurance will cover that I'm not sure people would be comfortable with prisoners getting.

I am trying to be thoughtful about access to appropriate health care for all citizens, including inmates. I believe everyone is entitled to basic health care, so that is where the insurance question came into play for me. The real question for me is the mental health angle. If this is a question of mental health then I believe access to this kind of treatment might be necessary. I still hvae not changed my mind, just want to be open to all facets of the discussion.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Inmates should receive the same care all us citizens should receive.

I agree 100%




That being said the state shouldn't be paying for that surgery

I agree with both of those statements. I don't know, and am open to hearing, which if any insurance companies cover this type of surgery. 

quick google search:

Requirements for genital reconstructive surgery (i.e., vaginectomy, urethroplasty, metoidioplasty, phalloplasty, scrotoplasty, and placement of a testicular prosthesis and erectile prosthesis in female to male; penectomy, vaginoplasty, labiaplasty, and clitoroplasty in male to female)

    Two referral letters from qualified mental health professionals, one in a purely evaluative role (see appendix); and
    Persistent, well-documented gender dysphoria (see Appendix); and
    Capacity to make a fully informed decision and to consent for treatment; and
    Age of majority (age 18 years and older); and
    If significant medical or mental health concerns are present, they must be reasonably well controlled; and
    Twelve months of continuous hormone therapy as appropriate to the member’s gender goals (unless the member has a medical contraindication or is otherwise unable or unwilling to take hormones); and
    Twelve months of living in a gender role that is congruent with their gender identity (real life experience).

Plenty more interesting information:
http://www.aetna.com/cpb/medical/data/600_699/0615.html

There's also this:

Regulators in nine states and the District of Columbia have also introduced laws banning insurance discrimination against treatments for gender reassignment. The other eight are California, Colorado, Connecticut, Illinois, Massachusetts, Oregon, Vermont and Washington, according to the Transgender Legal Defense & Education Fund. “But some insurers still deny claims and flout the law until someone pushes back against them,” says Michael Silverman, executive director at Transgender Legal Defense and Education Fund. Last December, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo told insurers in a letter: “An issuer may not deny medically necessary treatment otherwise covered by a health insurance policy solely on the basis that the treatment is for gender dysphoria.”

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/obamacare-states-and-insurers-make-gender-reassignment-surgery-more-accessible-2015-06-02

^really surprised info in this article wasn't a big conservative anti-obamacare talking point

Remember, "we have to pass the bill to find out what's in it".

[Mrs. Gooch]

Is realignment really the correct term? Because, to me, that just sounds like it is a bit crooked and needs to be straightened out (realigned).

[michigancat]

Is realignment really the correct term?

No

[Rage Against the McKee]

Is realignment really the correct term? Because, to me, that just sounds like it is a bit crooked and needs to be straightened out (realigned).

It's reassignment.

[star seed 7]

Is realignment really the correct term? Because, to me, that just sounds like it is a bit crooked and needs to be straightened out (realigned).

Ow

[Mrs. Gooch]

Actually the term realignment has been used in some articles I found online.

[Cire]

This is like someone who wants deviated septum surgery

[renocat]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-votes-down-proposal-to-ban-dod-payments-for-gender-transition-surgeries/
If someone chooses this life path, I come to the conclusion let them go on their journey.  But by danglies, I don't have to help pay for it.  Free obamaphone maybe, but ,,xxxm.

[slackcat]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-votes-down-proposal-to-ban-dod-payments-for-gender-transition-surgeries/
If someone chooses this life path, I come to the conclusion let them go on their journey.  But by danglies, I don't have to help pay for it.  Free obamaphone maybe, but ,,xxxm.

Now that's mumped up.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Pretty sure the 8th amendment prohibits the prison system from castrating inmates. I'd be open to a constitutional exception, however, for publicly funded castrations of child molestors

[puniraptor]

Gov should only pay to turn outies into innies to keep that birthrate up

[slackcat]

I don't know if it works that way.

[Rage Against the McKee]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/house-votes-down-proposal-to-ban-dod-payments-for-gender-transition-surgeries/
If someone chooses this life path, I come to the conclusion let them go on their journey.  But by danglies, I don't have to help pay for it.  Free obamaphone maybe, but ,,xxxm.

Now that's mumped up.

Yeah. These republicans can't get anything passed.

[renocat]

I am happy Trump is banning transgentials from military service and paying for realignment surgery.  Man/woman are transwers HACK OFF, literally in some cases.

[Mrs. Gooch]

Question: Do private insurance policies pay for gender confirmation surgery (or whatever the PC term is nowadays)?

[michigancat]

Question: Do private insurance policies pay for gender confirmation surgery (or whatever the PC term is nowadays)?

Here's a pretty good guide from Aetna:

http://www.aetna.com/cpb/medical/data/600_699/0615.html

[Mrs. Gooch]

So why should we expect those serving in the military to get fewer medical services / less insurance coverage than the average citizen?

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Answer to OP, no. It's no different than a face lift.

[puniraptor]

the only answer to all problems is total all gender integration of the military like starship troopers

[star seed 7]

the only answer to all problems is total all gender integration of the military like starship troopers