Author Topic: Should the public pay for sexual organ realignment? (Read 6050 times)

sys · « **Reply #25 on:** August 10, 2015, 04:35:59 PM »

Quote from: Mrs. Gooch on August 10, 2015, 03:56:42 PM

Quote from: sys on August 10, 2015, 03:43:52 PM
all prisoners should receive a medical fund when they enter prison that they can use for whatever medical care they need, including elective surgeries. they can receive 10% of the unused total on release. if they die in prison, they can bequeath it to an heir.

So we are paying people (in medical care) for getting a prison sentence? Is the amount based on how long you are serving? So if you commit murder you get a bigger medical fund than someone on drug charges (presumably).

the state is depriving them of liberty, preventing them from earning the means to provide their own care, so it has the responsibility to fund that care. yes, it is based on length of sentence. the state has to deposit all of the funds at the time the prisoner is deprived of liberty. unused funds would earn inflation + 50 basis points annually.

john "teach me how to" dougie · « **Reply #26 on:** August 10, 2015, 04:41:14 PM »

Going to prison sounds like a solid investment opportunity for losers.

michigancat · « **Reply #27 on:** August 10, 2015, 04:45:23 PM »

Yes, great opportunity. They got it made!

star seed 7 · « **Reply #28 on:** August 10, 2015, 04:49:36 PM »

Inmates should receive the same care all us citizens should receive.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #29 on:** August 10, 2015, 05:25:10 PM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on August 10, 2015, 04:49:36 PM

Inmates should receive the same care all us citizens should receive.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #30 on:** August 10, 2015, 05:38:04 PM »

Quote from: WackyCat08 on August 10, 2015, 05:25:10 PM

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on August 10, 2015, 04:49:36 PM
Inmates should receive the same care all us citizens should receive.

Go ahead and explain why that's funny

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #31 on:** August 10, 2015, 05:41:44 PM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on August 10, 2015, 05:38:04 PM

Quote from: WackyCat08 on August 10, 2015, 05:25:10 PM
Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on August 10, 2015, 04:49:36 PM
Inmates should receive the same care all us citizens should receive.

Go ahead and explain why that's funny

Well, I know you're trolling, but it's laughable that you think a murderer should get the same care as my 85 year old grandmother who has dementia.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #32 on:** August 10, 2015, 05:43:25 PM »

I'm not trolling at all.

Explain why that's laughable

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #33 on:** August 10, 2015, 05:46:06 PM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on August 10, 2015, 05:43:25 PM

I'm not trolling at all.

Explain why that's laughable

I just did. You're adorable.

star seed 7 · « **Reply #34 on:** August 10, 2015, 05:48:54 PM »

Quote from: WackyCat08 on August 10, 2015, 05:46:06 PM

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on August 10, 2015, 05:43:25 PM
I'm not trolling at all.

Explain why that's laughable
I just did. You're adorable.

You didn't explain anything

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #35 on:** August 10, 2015, 05:53:44 PM »

I don't have remorse for murderers. If you think they deserve the same rights as citizens, you're delusional. I don't care about ppl who want sex changes, that's their thing and should be able to do what they want, but to take tax payers $ to do so and you're being punished for an awful crime you committed, there's no way in hell that they should supply him with his request.

Spracne · « **Reply #36 on:** August 10, 2015, 05:54:01 PM »

Wacky hates the eff out of the Constitution

star seed 7 · « **Reply #37 on:** August 10, 2015, 05:57:27 PM »

Quote from: WackyCat08 on August 10, 2015, 05:53:44 PM

I don't have remorse for murderers. If you think they deserve the same rights as citizens, you're delusional. I don't care about ppl who want sex changes, that's their thing and should be able to do what they want, but to take tax payers $ to do so and you're being punished for an awful crime you committed, there's no way in hell that they should supply him with his request.

do you apply this to all crimes, or is there a certain crime level you magically think people should be deprived of healthcare?

star seed 7 · « **Reply #38 on:** August 10, 2015, 05:58:31 PM »

you don't have to have "remorse" for murderers to treat them like human beings while they are alive.

michigancat · « **Reply #39 on:** August 10, 2015, 06:02:55 PM »

I think wacky means "empathy" instead of "remorse".

Mrs. Gooch · « **Reply #40 on:** August 10, 2015, 06:21:17 PM »

There are other rights that convicted felons are deprived of.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #41 on:** August 10, 2015, 06:31:35 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on August 10, 2015, 06:02:55 PM

I think wacky means "empathy" instead of "remorse".

Yes.

renocat · « **Reply #42 on:** August 10, 2015, 07:56:55 PM »

This is from the LA Times as cited on the msn news website. The article said also a federal judge order a change operation for a federal prison. My view is this is elective. Humane treatment does not mean coddling a prisoner with hurt feelings about their identification. Where does this escalate to?

SdK · « **Reply #43 on:** August 10, 2015, 10:12:54 PM »

Who cares? Let them have the surgery.

SdK · « **Reply #44 on:** August 10, 2015, 10:13:22 PM »

Pay the doctor in a tax break.

SdK · « **Reply #45 on:** August 10, 2015, 10:13:29 PM »

Problem solved.

slobber · « **Reply #46 on:** August 10, 2015, 10:26:23 PM »

Quote from: Sundance»¤«Kid on August 10, 2015, 10:13:22 PM

Pay the doctor in a tax break.

Not certain you know how taxes work?

MakeItRain · « **Reply #47 on:** August 10, 2015, 10:27:27 PM »

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on August 10, 2015, 04:49:36 PM

Inmates should receive the same care all us citizens should receive.

I agree 100%

That being said the state shouldn't be paying for that surgery

SdK · « **Reply #48 on:** August 10, 2015, 10:29:01 PM »

Quote from: slobber on August 10, 2015, 10:26:23 PM

Quote from: Sundance»¤«Kid on August 10, 2015, 10:13:22 PM
Pay the doctor in a tax break.
Not certain you know how taxes work?

Maybe not. However tax breaks for having a kid, owning a home, etc work. Make one for a doctor performing an operation on a prisoner so they have to pay 15, 20, whatever thousand less in taxes.

Canary · « **Reply #49 on:** August 10, 2015, 10:29:16 PM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on August 10, 2015, 10:27:27 PM

Quote from: libliblibliblibliblib on August 10, 2015, 04:49:36 PM
Inmates should receive the same care all us citizens should receive.

I agree 100%

That being said the state shouldn't be paying for that surgery

I agree with both of those statements. I don't know, and am open to hearing, which if any insurance companies cover this type of surgery.