Serious question for right wing folks

[Saulbadguy]

I know you guys hate obama and all that, cool w/ that, don't really care, but do you guys still have lingering issues w/ the whole birth cert. thing?  Had an "argument" w/ someone about that, basically told the guy he was mumped in the head.   

[Saulbadguy]

FWIW, here is the "link" that started it. 

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=134593

[Sugar Dick]

I know you guys hate obama and all that, cool w/ that, don't really care, but do you guys still have lingering issues w/ the whole birth cert. thing?  Had an "argument" w/ someone about that, basically told the guy he was fracked in the head.   

IMO those people belong in the same Category of weirdo's that think Bush2 staged the 9/11 attacks.

Unfortunately there's a lot of these types of people

[ben ji]

FWIW, here is the "link" that started it. 

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=134593

  I clicked that link and didnt get further than the banner ad on the top.

NEW SURVIAL SEED LETS YOU PLANT A FULL ACRE CRISIS GARDEN!

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I know you guys hate obama and all that, cool w/ that, don't really care, but do you guys still have lingering issues w/ the whole birth cert. thing?  Had an "argument" w/ someone about that, basically told the guy he was fracked in the head.   

I will admit that I am curious about the birth question, but only because Obama has spent nearly $2,000,000 of campaign money to obliterate any trace of his past outside of his books.

[felix rex]

birthers = truthers

[OK_Cat]

I know you guys hate obama and all that, cool w/ that, don't really care, but do you guys still have lingering issues w/ the whole birth cert. thing?  Had an "argument" w/ someone about that, basically told the guy he was fracked in the head.   

I will admit that I am curious about the birth question, but only because Obama has spent nearly $2,000,000 of campaign money to obliterate any trace of his past outside of his books.

link?

[CatsFan_58]

I know you guys hate obama and all that, cool w/ that, don't really care, but do you guys still have lingering issues w/ the whole birth cert. thing?  Had an "argument" w/ someone about that, basically told the guy he was fracked in the head.   

I will admit that I am curious about the birth question, but only because Obama has spent nearly $2,000,000 of campaign money to obliterate any trace of his past outside of his books.

link?

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=112720

[CatsFan_58]

there aren't enough people that know of obama's past. his relationships with real estate crook Tony Rezko, black supremacist/Islam activist Louis Farrakhan, his "preacher" Jeremiah Wright, and terrorist William Ayers.
The guy is too sketchy.

You can't forget about the self-proclaimed socialists he has hired. Van Jones, Jim Wallis, Anita Dunn.

[wetwillie]

There are probably less right wing folks that believe he isn't a citizen than there are left wing folks that think 9/11 was an inside job for more control of foreign oil.

[pike]

I think 9/11 was an inside job but I'm not a birther 

[OK_Cat]

i believe in the idea of 9/11 being an inside job, but nobody in our government could keep their mouths shut for this long if it really was. 

[pike]

i believe in the idea of 9/11 being an inside job, but nobody in our government could keep their mouths shut for this long if it really was. 

That may or may not be true, but there is so much evidence that it is an inside job that it's too much for me to write off

[Trim]

i believe in the idea of 9/11 being an inside job, but nobody in our government could keep their mouths shut for this long if it really was. 

That may or may not be true, but there is so much evidence that it is an inside job that it's too much for me to write off

Let's hear a BRIEF summary of the evidence.

[Kat Kid]

i believe in the idea of 9/11 being an inside job, but nobody in our government could keep their mouths shut for this long if it really was. 

That may or may not be true, but there is so much evidence that it is an inside job that it's too much for me to write off

Almost as big of a conspiracy as your crappy grades an agecon rejection....

[pike]

i believe in the idea of 9/11 being an inside job, but nobody in our government could keep their mouths shut for this long if it really was. 

That may or may not be true, but there is so much evidence that it is an inside job that it's too much for me to write off

Almost as big of a conspiracy as your crappy grades an agecon rejection....

Good one. Grades aren't that bad just not good enough. But for starters, what business did building 7 have collapsing? Why are there hundreds of reports of explosions in and around the WTC including the basement. Why is there no plane wreckage at the pentagon and in the field in PA? Why is there no video of the plane hitting the pentagon?

I'm sure you're going to come up with stupid answers to all of these (after all you still believe in AGW), but they're legit questions if you actually look into it.

[pike]

Also, why was NORAD conveniently conducting an exercise in which no jets we're scrambled to help the situation? NORAD previously had a 100% success rate when intercepting hijacked aircraft, on 9/11 they wen't 0/4

[Trim]

pike, not trying to be a dick here, but is all of your "evidence" in the form of questions?

[pike]

pike, not trying to be a dick here, but is all of your "evidence" in the form of questions?

I understand, but look it up if you guys are that interested.

For instance, i don't see a boeing 757 in this picture 

[Trim]

pike, not trying to be a dick here, but is all of your "evidence" in the form of questions?

I understand, but look it up if you guys are that interested.

For instance, i don't see a boeing 757 in this picture 

Great.  Let's start there.  What's the government's explanation of why there's not an airplane in that picture, why do you and/or the conspiracy theorists think their explanation is bogus, what's your and/or the conspiracy theorists' position on why there's no airplane, and what evidence exists for that position (as opposed to lack of evidence for a different position)?

[pike]

The gov's explanation is that there is a plane in there, but clearly there isn't...since a 757 wouldn't just vaporize i think their story is bogus. Not to mention there isn't even video of the plane hitting. Some people theorize that a missile might have struck the pentagon or even a smaller plane. Clearly not a 757 though

[pike]

Let's talk Flight 93.

http://911review.org/Wiki/Flight93.shtml

They were able to find the hijackers red bandanna thing but they couldn't even find the black box? GMAFB.

[Dugout DickStone]

The gov's explanation is that there is a plane in there, but clearly there isn't...since a 757 wouldn't just vaporize i think their story is bogus. Not to mention there isn't even video of the plane hitting. Some people theorize that a missile might have struck the pentagon or even a smaller plane. Clearly not a 757 though

If the missle was cleverly disguised as a passenger jet.

http://debunk911myths.org/topics/Pentagon

[Trim]

The government should've had the same crew that hustled us all on this 9/11 deal to somehow plant some evidence that there were WMDs in Iraq.  Seems like that'd be even easier than the 9/11 thing with the planes and the buildings and everything.  That would've made USA look kick-ass.  

[pike]

The gov's explanation is that there is a plane in there, but clearly there isn't...since a 757 wouldn't just vaporize i think their story is bogus. Not to mention there isn't even video of the plane hitting. Some people theorize that a missile might have struck the pentagon or even a smaller plane. Clearly not a 757 though

If the missle was cleverly disguised as a passenger jet.

http://debunk911myths.org/topics/Pentagon

No video. No black box. Hardly any wreckage for a Boeing 767.

We could sit here and trade links all day, but I don't think either one of us will be persuaded here.