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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3425 on: August 29, 2017, 02:28:55 PM »
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3426 on: August 29, 2017, 04:12:06 PM »
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3427 on: August 30, 2017, 09:12:20 AM »
It's fascinating to go back a week or so and read what the meteorologists "forecasted" and weather centers "predicted" about Harvey and then compare to what actually and unfortunately happened (55% of the time they're right 85%?). We still can't accurately forecast/predict common reoccurring weather events like rain, clouds, air temp, etc., but climate "scientists" can immediately claim that climate change had a substantial effect on Harvey.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3428 on: August 30, 2017, 09:19:30 AM »
Are you intentionally being a dumbass? Just wondering
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3429 on: August 30, 2017, 09:29:11 AM »
Science helps us to understand why things happen, but historical is woefully inadequate is explaining the mystery of the everything.  This makes people who worship humanism cringe.  Science is their gospel, and it's infallible.  They forget science emanates from the minds of humans.  Humans that that come from the Church of Humankind.  What evil things do humans do to other human?  I gladly stand with God.  Climate change hysteria is the tool humanists are trying to use to control mankind.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3430 on: August 30, 2017, 09:30:43 AM »
Emawican seems to be being purposefully dense. I would suggest you do a little critical thinking with your responses. Predicting the future of weather will always be more difficult than mapping trends that have already occurred.

But to be fair, every interview I have heard the interviewer was really pressing for the tie in with climate change and the expert was usually able to say something like, "it most definitely could be related to climate change." Though an expert they had on (NPR) said that the slowness of the storm (which is what is making it so devastating) has nothing to do with climate change.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3431 on: August 30, 2017, 09:31:44 AM »
Historically, god has been a much more effective tool to control mankind
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« Reply #3432 on: August 30, 2017, 09:49:34 AM »
Historically, god has been a much more effective tool to control mankind
True.  Very true.  Evil uses good.  Probably why their is so much hate and loathing towards Christianity.   Man likes to find vehicles to use to control others.

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« Reply #3433 on: August 30, 2017, 10:12:17 AM »
Though an expert they had on (NPR) said that the slowness of the storm (which is what is making it so devastating) has nothing to do with climate change.

Yes, pretty obvs just observing the weather:  High pressure parked over the plains, low pressure to the east over Ohio/Tennessee valleys created a northerly air flow between them pointed straight at east Texas blocking Harvey's pressure center from moving northeastward.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3434 on: August 30, 2017, 10:13:28 AM »
Emawican seems to be being purposefully dense. I would suggest you do a little critical thinking with your responses. Predicting the future of weather will always be more difficult than mapping trends that have already occurred.

But to be fair, every interview I have heard the interviewer was really pressing for the tie in with climate change and the expert was usually able to say something like, "it most definitely could be related to climate change." Though an expert they had on (NPR) said that the slowness of the storm (which is what is making it so devastating) has nothing to do with climate change.

I'll be. Lucky for us we can easily predict the future of climate change by mapping trends that have already occurred.

Interesting that the experts aren't noting that the rise in Cat 4 and 5 hurricanes the last several decades also follows the advances in technology, and specifically satellite tech.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3435 on: August 30, 2017, 11:35:43 AM »
Hey candyman, has technology improved any over the last 100-120 years?

I know resident libs much prefer to play around with broadbrushed unqualified statistics, but when it comes to storms like this it's important to  qualify based on the region.   Give it try sometime.
 

It's weird, but not unexpected that lib always knows way more about what Infowars is saying than I do (or anybody else on this board for that matter).   

So, can anyone answer what PPM we need to be at in order to not make storms like Harvey dump so much moisture (even though had Harvey not stalled it would have still have likely dumped the same amount of moisture, just not as much in the same spot)?

You're not shifting this argument bad person. You cherry picked and lost. Try again next time.

Oh, piss off. I couldn't have been more explicit and LOL in your dumbass face trying to compare the ability to detect, measure and study storms decades ago as compared to today. 






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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3436 on: August 30, 2017, 11:45:06 AM »
Emawican seems to be being purposefully dense. I would suggest you do a little critical thinking with your responses. Predicting the future of weather will always be more difficult than mapping trends that have already occurred.

But to be fair, every interview I have heard the interviewer was really pressing for the tie in with climate change and the expert was usually able to say something like, "it most definitely could be related to climate change." Though an expert they had on (NPR) said that the slowness of the storm (which is what is making it so devastating) has nothing to do with climate change.

I'll be. Lucky for us we can easily predict the future of climate change by mapping trends that have already occurred.

Interesting that the experts aren't noting that the rise in Cat 4 and 5 hurricanes the last several decades also follows the advances in technology, and specifically satellite tech.

I would think it is less about 100% certainty with those predictions and more about what is likely. I don't think the government should waste money subsidizing solutions that are not profitable and are relatively ineffective. But, I also think it is ludicrous to say that there isn't proof of human's affect on the atmosphere. I'm a "better safe than sorry" kind of guy on this topic. Seems silly to laugh off what so many scientists are saying. From a marketing perspective it is also horrible messaging to come across as the party that ignores science.

The messaging should be about how previous money given to renewable research has largely gone wasted instead of pushing the narrative that an entire community of intelligent people are in the pocket of the opposing party.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3438 on: September 05, 2017, 12:35:45 PM »
We don't even know the optimal percentage of climate change denier papers there should even be.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3439 on: September 05, 2017, 01:10:08 PM »
It's ok, dax knows more than people who study these things for a living, rest easy
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3440 on: September 05, 2017, 02:05:01 PM »
The Cabal of Scientists strike again

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3441 on: September 05, 2017, 02:10:13 PM »
Scientists will stop at nothing to implement their global socialist agenda smdh
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3442 on: September 05, 2017, 02:39:26 PM »
"Paper Wars" one side telling the other side all their data is wrong, unprecedented!!   Now, even warmest alarmist scientists are starting to fight among themselves over their modeling (which has been way way off). 

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3443 on: September 06, 2017, 07:46:25 AM »
I have a very hard time believing Dax will disagree with dear leader

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The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3444 on: September 06, 2017, 11:42:53 AM »
Technology we have today is incredible.  To able to measure storms in real time from space. Amazing isn't it The Big Tuck?

I suspect had storms like Andrew (160 MPH sustained with gusts into the 170's using 1980's technology) had that kind of technology they would have similar records. 

Lived on the coast for 2 decades and from day 1 it was never a matter of if, simply when. 
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3445 on: September 06, 2017, 11:58:05 AM »
Amazing how dax seems to sync up with rush Limbaugh on pretty much everything. Rush also thinks this hurricane is fake and hurricane people have been infiltrated by the global socialist conspiracy
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3446 on: September 06, 2017, 12:16:40 PM »
Blaming a hurricane on global warming is pretty low and ignorant, even for the climate alarmists.  Bunch of pyschopaths.
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3447 on: September 06, 2017, 06:41:58 PM »
Amazing how dax seems to sync up with rush Limbaugh on pretty much everything. Rush also thinks this hurricane is fake and hurricane people have been infiltrated by the global socialist conspiracy

I think this hurricane is fake?

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3448 on: September 13, 2017, 04:58:20 PM »
http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/09/13/food-nutrients-carbon-dioxide-000511

This is an interesting, albeit lengthy, article about how rising CO2 levels increase plant growth via photosynthesis but has led to negative nutritional output. Carbs increase however protein, zinc, etc. decrease. The research is in its infancy but is starting to bear results. It could show how the changing nutrition levels in plants affect infant mortality, obesity, wildlife, etc.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3449 on: September 13, 2017, 06:23:41 PM »
Using logic you could argue global warming is making hurricanes less dangerous.  Irma was the 7th worst storm.  The 1935 hurricane was the worst.  It was a colder climate in 1935.  Warmalists say warmer = meaner storms.  Actuality turns their logic upside down.  I am sure if some guy had not took a whiz off his boat east of Florida and cooled the water minimumly, Irma would have been the all time rip-snorter.  Al will have to adjust his voodoo program to account for such variables.