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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3450 on: August 30, 2017, 11:35:43 AM »
Hey candyman, has technology improved any over the last 100-120 years?

I know resident libs much prefer to play around with broadbrushed unqualified statistics, but when it comes to storms like this it's important to  qualify based on the region.   Give it try sometime.
 

It's weird, but not unexpected that lib always knows way more about what Infowars is saying than I do (or anybody else on this board for that matter).   

So, can anyone answer what PPM we need to be at in order to not make storms like Harvey dump so much moisture (even though had Harvey not stalled it would have still have likely dumped the same amount of moisture, just not as much in the same spot)?

You're not shifting this argument bad person. You cherry picked and lost. Try again next time.

Oh, piss off. I couldn't have been more explicit and LOL in your dumbass face trying to compare the ability to detect, measure and study storms decades ago as compared to today. 






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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3451 on: August 30, 2017, 11:45:06 AM »
Emawican seems to be being purposefully dense. I would suggest you do a little critical thinking with your responses. Predicting the future of weather will always be more difficult than mapping trends that have already occurred.

But to be fair, every interview I have heard the interviewer was really pressing for the tie in with climate change and the expert was usually able to say something like, "it most definitely could be related to climate change." Though an expert they had on (NPR) said that the slowness of the storm (which is what is making it so devastating) has nothing to do with climate change.

I'll be. Lucky for us we can easily predict the future of climate change by mapping trends that have already occurred.

Interesting that the experts aren't noting that the rise in Cat 4 and 5 hurricanes the last several decades also follows the advances in technology, and specifically satellite tech.

I would think it is less about 100% certainty with those predictions and more about what is likely. I don't think the government should waste money subsidizing solutions that are not profitable and are relatively ineffective. But, I also think it is ludicrous to say that there isn't proof of human's affect on the atmosphere. I'm a "better safe than sorry" kind of guy on this topic. Seems silly to laugh off what so many scientists are saying. From a marketing perspective it is also horrible messaging to come across as the party that ignores science.

The messaging should be about how previous money given to renewable research has largely gone wasted instead of pushing the narrative that an entire community of intelligent people are in the pocket of the opposing party.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3453 on: September 05, 2017, 12:35:45 PM »
We don't even know the optimal percentage of climate change denier papers there should even be.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3454 on: September 05, 2017, 01:10:08 PM »
It's ok, dax knows more than people who study these things for a living, rest easy
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« Reply #3455 on: September 05, 2017, 02:05:01 PM »
The Cabal of Scientists strike again

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3456 on: September 05, 2017, 02:10:13 PM »
Scientists will stop at nothing to implement their global socialist agenda smdh
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« Reply #3457 on: September 05, 2017, 02:39:26 PM »
"Paper Wars" one side telling the other side all their data is wrong, unprecedented!!   Now, even warmest alarmist scientists are starting to fight among themselves over their modeling (which has been way way off). 

Katrina-Global Warming
No Land-falling Major Hurricanes for 12 years-Global Warming
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Joplin Tornado-Global Warming The Fukushima Scale isn't enough!
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« Reply #3458 on: September 06, 2017, 07:46:25 AM »
I have a very hard time believing Dax will disagree with dear leader


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The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3459 on: September 06, 2017, 11:42:53 AM »
Technology we have today is incredible.  To able to measure storms in real time from space. Amazing isn't it The Big Tuck?

I suspect had storms like Andrew (160 MPH sustained with gusts into the 170's using 1980's technology) had that kind of technology they would have similar records. 

Lived on the coast for 2 decades and from day 1 it was never a matter of if, simply when. 
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« Reply #3460 on: September 06, 2017, 11:58:05 AM »
Amazing how dax seems to sync up with rush Limbaugh on pretty much everything. Rush also thinks this hurricane is fake and hurricane people have been infiltrated by the global socialist conspiracy
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3461 on: September 06, 2017, 12:16:40 PM »
Blaming a hurricane on global warming is pretty low and ignorant, even for the climate alarmists.  Bunch of pyschopaths.
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3462 on: September 06, 2017, 06:41:58 PM »
Amazing how dax seems to sync up with rush Limbaugh on pretty much everything. Rush also thinks this hurricane is fake and hurricane people have been infiltrated by the global socialist conspiracy

I think this hurricane is fake?

Weird rough ridin' take from the resident weirdo.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3463 on: September 13, 2017, 04:58:20 PM »
http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/09/13/food-nutrients-carbon-dioxide-000511

This is an interesting, albeit lengthy, article about how rising CO2 levels increase plant growth via photosynthesis but has led to negative nutritional output. Carbs increase however protein, zinc, etc. decrease. The research is in its infancy but is starting to bear results. It could show how the changing nutrition levels in plants affect infant mortality, obesity, wildlife, etc.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3464 on: September 13, 2017, 06:23:41 PM »
Using logic you could argue global warming is making hurricanes less dangerous.  Irma was the 7th worst storm.  The 1935 hurricane was the worst.  It was a colder climate in 1935.  Warmalists say warmer = meaner storms.  Actuality turns their logic upside down.  I am sure if some guy had not took a whiz off his boat east of Florida and cooled the water minimumly, Irma would have been the all time rip-snorter.  Al will have to adjust his voodoo program to account for such variables.

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« Reply #3465 on: September 17, 2017, 07:56:14 AM »
Fake news but if infowars said this it would be law.


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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3466 on: September 18, 2017, 08:55:18 PM »
California Gov. Jerry Brown (D) compared Trump supporters to Neanderthal-era cave-dwellers at a global warming speech in New York City.

He said the "derivation" of the term "Trump-ite" is similar to that of "troglodyte," which is the scientific term for cavemen.

"You should check out the derivation of Trump-ite and troglodyte, because they both refer to people who dwell in deep dark caves," he said, according to Politico.

The left according to Rush use this issue as the reason why the government must control every aspect of our lives and thwart individualism and liberty.

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3467 on: September 18, 2017, 09:12:57 PM »
California gov Jerry brown is very perceptive
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« Reply #3468 on: September 18, 2017, 09:40:58 PM »
California gov Jerry brown is very perceptive

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3469 on: September 19, 2017, 04:58:52 PM »
Well nuclear horsefarts!  I just read on the CBS news site, that a federal judge ruled against the city do-gooders by saying that can't require a beverage company to put a warning on sugary drinks that says such drinks can cause obesity.  The city is trying to figure how to get around this because they are so worried about the health of fatties (except trumplings).  Climate change to the rescue.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/global-shift-obesity-packs-serious-climate-consequences/

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3470 on: October 31, 2017, 10:18:32 PM »
Apparently this was allowed until now


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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3471 on: October 31, 2017, 10:24:00 PM »
California gov Jerry brown is very perceptive

He is a huge stud

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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3472 on: November 01, 2017, 11:56:56 AM »
Apparently this was allowed until now


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Do you live in the upside-down world at all times or just political realms? The reason I ask is because it is clear and blatant that Pruitt is expelling scientists and qualified individuals for folks with more "diverse" views and backgrounds... AKA... Oil, Gas, Extraction and Production industry insiders and stooges. His justification? The scientists that currently serve on the panels are potentially biased if they recieve EPA grants for their work... But the industry insiders aren't biased by their pay, investments, or grants from the Oil and Gas lobby. Sound logic there GOP/Koch Shills /s

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/pruitt-guts-epa-science-panels-will-appoint-new-members/2017/10/31/2a8203e8-bea6-11e7-9294-705f80164f6e_story.html?utm_term=.fe77664c5a51

ALSO** I recently came across a great graph that illustrates CO2 ppm historically over hundreds of thousands of years giving dax, ksuw, fsd, and the other knuckle-draggers an idea of the uncharted waters we are in the middle of... Not that I have any reason to believe it will break through their brainwashing/programming. But nonetheless, there it is...

https://www.ecowatch.com/greenhouse-gas-levels-2503831950.html
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Re: The Scott Pruitt "If the models are all wrong" thread
« Reply #3473 on: November 01, 2017, 12:43:36 PM »
better allocation of resources: abandon cities like Miami, New Orleans and Houston wholesale or build dutch delta-works like structures off their coasts?

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« Reply #3474 on: November 01, 2017, 12:48:47 PM »
better allocation of resources: abandon cities like Miami, New Orleans and Houston wholesale or build dutch delta-works like structures off their coasts?

I've listened to a bunch of interesting stuff on this and experts saying you cannot even call these natural disasters anymore because we have done so much to make inhabitable places habitable just to see them predictably wiped away by storms.

Reducing the amount the federal government subsidizes flood insurance would be a great first step and seemingly a no-brainer for a Trump administration that loves to talk about saving money and ending handouts.