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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #3600 on: November 14, 2017, 07:54:16 PM »
If a modicum of the conjecture and batshit speculation surrounding trump Russian meddling were applied in the context of the obama historic levels of wtf failure and embarrassment in actual dealings with Russia, thw internet would explode and a blackhole left in its void.
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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #3601 on: November 14, 2017, 07:54:41 PM »
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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #3602 on: November 14, 2017, 07:56:26 PM »
Please FSD, educate us on the last administration's failures with regards to Russia
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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #3603 on: November 14, 2017, 08:10:32 PM »
Is russia recapturing significant portions of the former ussr a positive????
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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #3604 on: November 14, 2017, 08:17:08 PM »
Is russia recapturing significant portions of the former ussr a positive????

It is not. I believe we agree on that. So how should the last administration have responded differently?

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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #3605 on: November 14, 2017, 08:24:42 PM »
Why don't you make a coherent and reality grounded argument as to one thing the obama admin did with russia, or any other foreign country, thst was good.

Because it seems like all you dipshits can come up with, well he tried and it didnt work, and there were lots of unintended negative consequences, but if you think about it, we don't know for sure what would have happened if we did simething else, so it was really the best course of action, because we are ss shallow intellectually as we are morally.
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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #3606 on: November 14, 2017, 08:27:14 PM »
That's what I thought

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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #3607 on: November 14, 2017, 08:47:23 PM »
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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #3608 on: November 14, 2017, 08:56:48 PM »
You state that the last administration failed with Russia because of the annexation of Crimea and possibly their military intervention in Ukraine. However, you can't provide a single alternative course of action the last administration should have engaged in.

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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #3609 on: November 14, 2017, 09:04:44 PM »
Didn't we sanction the crap out of them for Crimea? Isn't that what Trump was whining about last week?
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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #3610 on: November 14, 2017, 09:11:31 PM »
Didn't we sanction the crap out of them for Crimea? Isn't that what Trump was whining about last week?

No, he was crying about bi-partisan legislation that he signed but has so far refused to implement which would impose more sanctions on Russia for election meddling.

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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #3611 on: November 14, 2017, 09:36:49 PM »
You state that the last administration failed with Russia because of the annexation of Crimea and possibly their military intervention in Ukraine. However, you can't provide a single alternative course of action the last administration should have engaged in.

Are you being serious?

You're saying Syria gassing it's own people and crossing the arbitrary line in the sand was a failure of policy, BUT WHAT ELSE COULD HAVE BEEN DONE!?!?
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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #3612 on: November 14, 2017, 09:39:43 PM »
I'll give you credit, you are careful not to say the obama admin foreign policy was anything but bad--unlike that Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) cfandyman did above.
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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #3613 on: November 14, 2017, 09:40:50 PM »
Please FSD, educate us on the last administration's failures with regards to Russia

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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #3614 on: November 14, 2017, 09:46:31 PM »
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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #3615 on: November 14, 2017, 09:48:52 PM »
You state that the last administration failed with Russia because of the annexation of Crimea and possibly their military intervention in Ukraine. However, you can't provide a single alternative course of action the last administration should have engaged in.

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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #3616 on: November 14, 2017, 09:53:49 PM »
Makes you wonder why we even have a president when only one course of action is possible.
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Re: Trump owns Russia
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Re: Trump owns Russia
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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #3620 on: November 15, 2017, 02:13:16 PM »
:surprised:

https://twitter.com/MikeScarcella/status/930885718553047041

Um, his attorney??

The same one he had when he pleaded guilty? Is that likely?

Well, there is still the sentencing phase, hence the sentencing memorandum. And whether or not subject matter jurisdiction exists cannot ever be waived. In fact, the court has the obligation to raise the issue sua sponte. Even with a guilty plea, you are still allowed to argue that the court lacked subject matter jurisdiction. And a case can be dismissed at any phase under Rule 12(b)(2).
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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #3621 on: November 15, 2017, 03:56:57 PM »
I'll sua sponte your face

Not really though - good analysis but if there is no jurisdiction I find a guilty plea a very questionable strategy

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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #3622 on: November 15, 2017, 04:01:16 PM »
I'll sua sponte your face

Not really though - good analysis but if there is no jurisdiction I find a guilty plea a very questionable strategy

I'm sure it was a hail mary, and clearly it got swatted down. Still, some lawyers feel they're not doing their job if they don't attempt such maneuvers. Plus, without knowing what was in the memorandum, it's possible there was some issue preservation stuff afoot. Or perhaps, who knows? Maybe this was a smoke signal for the higher courts. Nothing surprises me anymore with this regime.

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Re: Trump owns Russia
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Re: Trump owns Russia
« Reply #3624 on: November 15, 2017, 07:53:56 PM »