Author Topic: Wanna live, avoid all Missouri cops (Read 9853 times)

MakeItRain · « **on:** November 24, 2014, 11:59:35 PM »

So this summer this kid from Iowa named Brandon Ellingson took a trip to the Ozarks and decided to do a little underaged drinking, well his punishment was murder by the Missouri HP. IMO this is much much worse than the Michael Brown incident but it won't get the national media attention. This kid was undoubtedly murdered but because of lying cops and small town cover-ups these cops will literally get away with murder and are still out there "serving" the public, its disgusting.

This article is long, at least watch the video, it is a disturbing account of how little these people care about the lives of the people they are supposed to be serving. There are many articles from primarily either Des Moines or CoMo/Jeff City about this but nothing nationally, this is the most comprehensive. This reporter did an amazing job and I hope she wins an emmy.

http://www.abc17news.com/news/trooper-i-feel-like-i-drowned-that-kid/29779624

AbeFroman · « **Reply #1 on:** November 25, 2014, 12:28:36 AM »

I'm not even a minority and I already feel like I can't trust a single cop (obviously not all cops are bad, but how do you know which ones?)

This story is so depressing

ednksu · « **Reply #2 on:** November 25, 2014, 06:39:34 AM »

murder, no
manslaughter, yes
cover-up should be treated with the same accomplice felony rules which common criminals are prosecuted under.

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #3 on:** November 25, 2014, 08:19:24 AM »

Quote from: ednksu on November 25, 2014, 06:39:34 AM

murder, no
manslaughter, yes
cover-up should be treated with the same accomplice felony rules which common criminals are prosecuted under.

Probably, guy shouldn't be employed anymore.
The cover up is the scary part. White or black, if a cop kills someone his buddies will work to cover it up and the prosecutor will likely be complicit

renocat · « **Reply #4 on:** November 25, 2014, 08:51:03 AM »

Let's get rid of cops. Everyone carry a gun and shoot at will. Comments on this thread about cops are sickening. Police are not perfect, and bad crap happens. We are too quick in this country to lump everyone in the same pile on different issues. There are a lot of good cops and good black people in the U.S. If we demean and disrespect law enforcement we are going to see more bad things and only able to recruit barney wannabes to police forces.

chuckjames · « **Reply #5 on:** November 25, 2014, 08:54:00 AM »

Quote from: renocat on November 25, 2014, 08:51:03 AM

Let's get rid of cops. Everyone carry a gun and shoot at will. Comments on this thread about cops are sickening. Police are not perfect, and bad crap happens. We are too quick in this country to lump everyone in the same pile on different issues. There are a lot of good cops and good black people in the U.S. If we demean and disrespect law enforcement we are going to see more bad things and only able to recruit barney wannabes to police forces.

Hmm so we should just let cops serve carte Blanche?

EMAWmeister · « **Reply #6 on:** November 25, 2014, 10:58:03 AM »

renocat has worked really hard to out himself as a dumbass the last month or so.

ednksu · « **Reply #7 on:** November 25, 2014, 11:06:34 AM »

Quote from: chuckjames on November 25, 2014, 08:54:00 AM

Quote from: renocat on November 25, 2014, 08:51:03 AM
Let's get rid of cops. Everyone carry a gun and shoot at will. Comments on this thread about cops are sickening. Police are not perfect, and bad crap happens. We are too quick in this country to lump everyone in the same pile on different issues. There are a lot of good cops and good black people in the U.S. If we demean and disrespect law enforcement we are going to see more bad things and only able to recruit barney wannabes to police forces.

Hmm so we should just let cops serve carte Blanche?

The Blue Wall protects all.

420seriouscat69 · « **Reply #8 on:** November 25, 2014, 12:53:26 PM »

That's awful!

Cartierfor3 · « **Reply #9 on:** November 25, 2014, 01:44:56 PM »

I followed that story all summer. Really bad. The cops screwed up, but do not face consequences. Rinse, repeat.

The1BigWillie · « **Reply #10 on:** November 25, 2014, 02:28:07 PM »

Quote from: Cartierfor3 on November 25, 2014, 01:44:56 PM

I followed that story all summer. Really bad. The cops screwed up, but do not face consequences. Rinse, repeat.

Still boils down to when you do stupid crap... sometimes you die. Deserve has nothing to do with it.

Skipper44 · « **Reply #11 on:** November 25, 2014, 02:34:57 PM »

Quote from: The1BigWillie on November 25, 2014, 02:28:07 PM

Quote from: Cartierfor3 on November 25, 2014, 01:44:56 PM
I followed that story all summer. Really bad. The cops screwed up, but do not face consequences. Rinse, repeat.
Still boils down to when you do stupid crap... sometimes you die. Deserve has nothing to do with it.

The cop did even stupider crap - driving a relatively small boat too fast on a rough lake with possibly inebriated, definitely cuffed and incorrectly life jacketed passenger. It's bad enough they aren't subject to any criminal charges but these guys don't even lose their jobs over huge mistakes like this.

CNS · « **Reply #12 on:** November 25, 2014, 02:40:52 PM »

DNR article, but the radio coverage said the d00d was more than slightly inebriated. Supposedly, he was super duper drunk.

puniraptor · « **Reply #13 on:** November 25, 2014, 02:47:32 PM »

Quote from: CNS on November 25, 2014, 02:40:52 PM

DNR article, but the radio coverage said the d00d was more than slightly inebriated. Supposedly, he was super duper drunk.

right, but the cop took the man's life into his own hands when he removed him from his boat and his friends and handcuffed him so he couldnt swim if he wanted to and put a life jacket on him incorrectly.

CNS · « **Reply #14 on:** November 25, 2014, 02:58:17 PM »

Oh, I fully agree. Someone should hold that cop's head under water for a good 10 min or so. I was responding to Skipper's post about the guy possibly being inebriated.

puniraptor · « **Reply #15 on:** November 25, 2014, 02:59:31 PM »

Quote from: CNS on November 25, 2014, 02:58:17 PM

Oh, I fully agree. Someone should hold that cop's head under water for a good 10 min or so. I was responding to Skipper's post about the guy possibly being inebriated.

lol

and then i just said exactly what he said

LOOP CLOSED

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #16 on:** November 25, 2014, 03:16:37 PM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on November 24, 2014, 11:59:35 PM

So this summer this kid from Iowa named Brandon Ellingson took a trip to the Ozarks and decided to do a little underaged drinking, well his punishment was murder by the Missouri HP. IMO this is much much worse than the Michael Brown incident but it won't get the national media attention. This kid was undoubtedly murdered but because of lying cops and small town cover-ups these cops will literally get away with murder and are still out there "serving" the public, its disgusting.

Murder? Are you serious? The trooper was negligent, but he didn't intend to kill the kid. The kid wasn't just drunk - he was rough ridin' plowed. Had a BAC of .268. (For an added dose of irony, the name of the boat was "Sotally Tober"). The trooper mumped up by putting the wrong life vest on him. He was poorly trained. So if you want to be outraged about a poorly trained trooper negligently drowning a kid - that's a-ok - but to call this "murder" is ridiculous.

puniraptor · « **Reply #17 on:** November 25, 2014, 03:18:57 PM »

Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on November 25, 2014, 03:16:37 PM

Quote from: MakeItRain on November 24, 2014, 11:59:35 PM
So this summer this kid from Iowa named Brandon Ellingson took a trip to the Ozarks and decided to do a little underaged drinking, well his punishment was murder by the Missouri HP. IMO this is much much worse than the Michael Brown incident but it won't get the national media attention. This kid was undoubtedly murdered but because of lying cops and small town cover-ups these cops will literally get away with murder and are still out there "serving" the public, its disgusting.

Murder? Are you serious? The trooper was negligent, but he didn't intend to kill the kid. The kid wasn't just drunk - he was rough ridin' plowed. Had a BAC of .268. (For an added dose of irony, the name of the boat was "Sotally Tober"). The trooper mumped up by putting the wrong life vest on him. He was poorly trained. So if you want to be outraged about a poorly trained trooper negligently drowning a kid - that's a-ok - but to call this "murder" is ridiculous.

negligent homicide

CNS · « **Reply #18 on:** November 25, 2014, 03:24:47 PM »

Being pro-negligent homicide is such a weird stance to take.

K-S-U-Wildcats! · « **Reply #19 on:** November 25, 2014, 03:29:11 PM »

Quote from: puniraptor on November 25, 2014, 03:18:57 PM

Quote from: K-S-U-Wildcats! on November 25, 2014, 03:16:37 PM
Quote from: MakeItRain on November 24, 2014, 11:59:35 PM
So this summer this kid from Iowa named Brandon Ellingson took a trip to the Ozarks and decided to do a little underaged drinking, well his punishment was murder by the Missouri HP. IMO this is much much worse than the Michael Brown incident but it won't get the national media attention. This kid was undoubtedly murdered but because of lying cops and small town cover-ups these cops will literally get away with murder and are still out there "serving" the public, its disgusting.

Murder? Are you serious? The trooper was negligent, but he didn't intend to kill the kid. The kid wasn't just drunk - he was rough ridin' plowed. Had a BAC of .268. (For an added dose of irony, the name of the boat was "Sotally Tober"). The trooper mumped up by putting the wrong life vest on him. He was poorly trained. So if you want to be outraged about a poorly trained trooper negligently drowning a kid - that's a-ok - but to call this "murder" is ridiculous.

negligent homicide

Right, at most. Not murder.

puniraptor · « **Reply #20 on:** November 25, 2014, 03:29:27 PM »

negligent murder

CNS · « **Reply #21 on:** November 25, 2014, 03:31:10 PM »

Ad Negligent Homocide Per Aspera

nicname · « **Reply #22 on:** November 25, 2014, 03:49:40 PM »

The story isn't that a cop accidentally killed a kid, rubes. The story is that even in ridiculous circumstances like these, even with cops operating under a different set of rules than the rest of us, if something goes awry those in command will go out of their way to cover up for a cop.

puniraptor · « **Reply #23 on:** November 25, 2014, 03:50:50 PM »

Quote from: nicname on November 25, 2014, 03:49:40 PM

The story isn't that a cop accidentally killed a kid, rubes. The story is that even in ridiculous circumstances like these, even with cops operating under a different set of rules than the rest of us, if something goes awry those in command will go out of their way to cover up for a cop.

thats true.

puniraptor · « **Reply #24 on:** November 25, 2014, 03:51:38 PM »

kazzoodub, what are your thoughts on the cover up and abuse of trust and power? negligence?