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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4175 on: January 23, 2018, 03:29:46 PM »
A law gets passed that says you turn over your registered firearms or you go to jail.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4176 on: January 23, 2018, 03:29:50 PM »
sure, i bought this mega expensive assault rifle, I could keep or, OR I could "sell" it to the government for $300.
I think gun buyback programs are more targeted at illegally acquired guns considering the no questions asked part of it. It's one of the things Australia used in '96.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4177 on: January 23, 2018, 03:30:38 PM »
sure, i bought this mega expensive assault rifle, I could keep or, OR I could "sell" it to the government for $300.

You want the $300 or the mandatory surrender a year from now?
heh.  tell me how a mandatory surrender would work.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4178 on: January 23, 2018, 03:32:44 PM »
In this case I wouldn't bother with buyback except for assault rifles.  Since they would be illegal to sell or discharge it would be a pretty good deal (plus the fees associated with registration).

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4179 on: January 23, 2018, 03:36:22 PM »
sure, i bought this mega expensive assault rifle, I could keep or, OR I could "sell" it to the government for $300.
I think gun buyback programs are more targeted at illegally acquired guns considering the no questions asked part of it. It's one of the things Australia used in '96.
buybacks have been tried in the US and they just haven't worked.  i don't see any harm in trying again though.   https://www.npr.org/2013/01/15/169439243/newtown-prompts-gun-buybacks-but-do-they-work
A law gets passed that says you turn over your registered firearms or you go to jail.
i think this would be a great idea if all of a sudden the supreme court changes its mind about what the second amendment means.


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4180 on: January 23, 2018, 03:43:46 PM »
A law gets passed that says you turn over your registered firearms or you go to jail.
Do you not see the irony in this?
Your problem isn't legal firearms.  Never was, never will be.
Bolstering the black market, would only increase profits to criminals and gun violence.
Your rights/responsibility for firearms was set by founding fathers that wanted to protect the country from tyrants.


Pro tip the govt's guns LOL at yours, the idea that the average gun owner can ward off the govt with their AR 15 is hilarious
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4181 on: January 23, 2018, 03:48:56 PM »
A law gets passed that says you turn over your registered firearms or you go to jail.
Do you not see the irony in this?
Your problem isn't legal firearms.  Never was, never will be.
Bolstering the black market, would only increase profits to criminals and gun violence.
Your rights/responsibility for firearms was set by founding fathers that wanted to protect the country from tyrants.


Pro tip the govt's guns LOL at yours, the idea that the average gun owner can ward off the govt with their AR 15 is hilarious

take it up with the founders/supreme court.


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4182 on: January 23, 2018, 03:52:19 PM »
A law gets passed that says you turn over your registered firearms or you go to jail.
Do you not see the irony in this?
Your problem isn't legal firearms.  Never was, never will be.
Bolstering the black market, would only increase profits to criminals and gun violence.
Your rights/responsibility for firearms was set by founding fathers that wanted to protect the country from tyrants.


Pro tip the govt's guns LOL at yours, the idea that the average gun owner can ward off the govt with their AR 15 is hilarious

take it up with the founders/supreme court.

We already waved a magic wand dude
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4183 on: January 23, 2018, 03:52:52 PM »
jag really kicking the crap out of that strawman
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4184 on: January 23, 2018, 03:54:56 PM »
A law gets passed that says you turn over your registered firearms or you go to jail.
Do you not see the irony in this?
Your problem isn't legal firearms.  Never was, never will be.
Bolstering the black market, would only increase profits to criminals and gun violence.
Your rights/responsibility for firearms was set by founding fathers that wanted to protect the country from tyrants.


Pro tip the govt's guns LOL at yours, the idea that the average gun owner can ward off the govt with their AR 15 is hilarious

take it up with the founders/supreme court.

We already waved a magic wand dude
fair.  but just so we're all on the same page - we'd need congress to overturn the second amendment.


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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4185 on: January 23, 2018, 03:57:09 PM »
I'm assuming your magic wand allows you to change the wording of the second amendment to make it more clear that congress is allowed to regulate gun ownership.

A unified congress would be able to change the words of any amendment.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4186 on: January 23, 2018, 04:02:20 PM »
Some people can't handle hypotheticals
Hyperbolic partisan duplicitous hypocrite

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4187 on: January 23, 2018, 04:03:54 PM »
The 2nd amendment is really the worst of the bunch, anyway.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4188 on: January 23, 2018, 04:04:27 PM »
I will say I admire dlew12's fervor to defend the constitution at any and all costs in any thread.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4189 on: January 23, 2018, 04:06:20 PM »
i think dlew might be a law-yer not a loyer type guy

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4190 on: January 23, 2018, 04:22:15 PM »
i'm not defending the constitution for the sake of defending the constitution.  i'm not really "defending" anything.  i missed the "magic wand" posts above.

i'm just speaking practically.  if people want to go out and repeal the second amendment, go for it.

that said, comparing the US situation to australia is bold.  australia is estimated to have recovered something like a quarter of its citizens' guns, which totaled roughly a million of them.  the US has 350 million guns.  so even in this alternate reality where (1) the second amendment is repealed, (2) congress enacts a ban, and (3) our efforts are as successful as Australia's, the number of privately owned guns in this country will still number in the hundreds of millions.

i'm not a huge pro-gun guy.  i don't have a gun, i've never been hunting...the constitutional right means nothing to me. but given the prevalence of guns in this country and the long-established gun culture that's firmly entrenched here, i think it's next to impossible to put the "gun problem toothpaste" back in the bottle.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4191 on: January 23, 2018, 08:21:17 PM »
People always argue that gun restrictions would never work because it wouldn't see immediate success. But we're trying to reverse the rotation of the Earth, here. It's gonna take a long rough ridin' time, generations even, but doing nothing just because it might not work in the short term to change the ridiculous weaponized mindset in this country is not an option.

To me it's akin to people seeing snow and being like, "well they passed environmental restrictions a few years ago and they're still telling me global warming is happening, so obviously they didn't work and we should get rid of the restrictions." Don't only think now. Think, like, 100 years from now.
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4192 on: January 23, 2018, 08:56:08 PM »
They should have thought ahead 226 years ago. Too late now.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4193 on: January 24, 2018, 09:47:02 PM »
So, 11 school shootings in 2018 already. 

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4194 on: January 24, 2018, 10:28:59 PM »
No problem whatsoever, nothing we could possibly do about it
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4195 on: January 25, 2018, 08:16:08 AM »
Bummer there is simply nothing we can do ever darnit

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4196 on: January 25, 2018, 08:54:11 AM »
Interesting article.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/mass-shootings-in-america/

Just one mass shooting in Kansas. July 3, 2004 ConAgra in KCK.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4197 on: January 25, 2018, 08:58:57 AM »
Hesston(sp?) must not have counted
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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4198 on: January 25, 2018, 09:03:20 AM »
Very informative. I agree mass shootings are a relatively minor problem compared to gun violence more generally. Most nationwide studies you look at will show you what should be pretty obvious: less guns = less gun violence, including suicide. The best answer is to take sensible measures to reduce the circulation of guns in America and slowly erode against a culture that in some parts can only really be described as gun worship. Like I said, it’s at least a 100-200 year solution, but you gotta start somewhere.

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Re: Another school shooting
« Reply #4199 on: January 25, 2018, 09:16:15 AM »
Hesston(sp?) must not have counted

The article says it just used incidents where there were 4 or more killed. Only 3 deaths in Hesston not counting the shooter.