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chum1 · « **Reply #100 on:** February 20, 2015, 03:56:43 PM »

I'm on board with Foster and Tre jacking up tons of threes. Are you guys on board with Westicles at PG?

CNS · « **Reply #101 on:** February 20, 2015, 03:57:52 PM »

The problem is that he seems to hit his ridic ones pretty damn good. I would love to see Tre and Marcus in at the same time and both increase their attempts dramatically.

If we aren't going to actively and agressively do anything to create something else, we should try to have two Marshal Hendersons on the court, IMO.

CNS · « **Reply #102 on:** February 20, 2015, 03:58:14 PM »

Yep. Wes, Tre, Foster, Nino, Gip.

michigancat · « **Reply #103 on:** February 20, 2015, 03:59:40 PM »

Quote from: ksupamplemousse on February 20, 2015, 03:50:13 PM

Quote from: michigancat on February 20, 2015, 03:48:37 PM
Quote from: TownieCat on February 20, 2015, 03:42:09 PM
I understand that they both play the same position, but how many minutes this season have Tre and Marcus been on the court at the same time? Just spitballing here, but having multiple 3FG threats playing together could work.

IMPOSSIBLE THEY PLAY THE EXACT SAME POSITION

We've had such incredible production from the point guard and small forward positions. I just don't know whose minutes he would take.

shooting guards are shooting guards and a motion offense requires five distinct positions with entirely unique skill sets

CNS · « **Reply #104 on:** February 20, 2015, 04:01:26 PM »

Stretch point, Tre, stretch three, stretch four, stretch five.

sys · « **Reply #105 on:** February 20, 2015, 04:02:06 PM »

unfortunately, iwu sucks. edwards has better oboarding and to rates. put him in instead to rebound and kick it back out.

TownieCat · « **Reply #106 on:** February 20, 2015, 04:02:56 PM »

Quote from: chum1 on February 20, 2015, 03:56:43 PM

I'm on board with Foster and Tre jacking up tons of threes. Are you guys on board with Westicles at PG?

Sure. At this point in the season the only bad idea is to keep doing what we have been doing. Let's do it.

Just for fun, let's have Hurt in there too.

CNS · « **Reply #107 on:** February 20, 2015, 04:03:18 PM »

Quote from: sys on February 20, 2015, 04:02:06 PM

unfortunately, iwu sucks. edwards has better oboarding and to rates. put him in instead to rebound and kick it back out.

Edwards seems to have only slightly better hands than Hurt, though.

michigancat · « **Reply #108 on:** February 20, 2015, 04:04:45 PM »

I'd like to see Westicles at the 4 more next year

CNS · « **Reply #109 on:** February 20, 2015, 04:05:37 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on February 20, 2015, 04:04:45 PM

I'd like to see Westicles at the 4 more next year

Agreed. We need to southwell him as much as possible.

michigancat · « **Reply #110 on:** February 20, 2015, 04:07:34 PM »

putting Southwell at the 4 IMO made that 2013 team better than Frank would have had us. That along w/ signing Foster are easily oscar's two best coaching moves since he's been here.

sys · « **Reply #111 on:** February 20, 2015, 04:07:57 PM »

Quote from: CNS on February 20, 2015, 04:03:18 PM

Edwards seems to have only slightly better hands than Hurt, though.

hurt's rebounding rates are really good!

Trim · « **Reply #112 on:** February 20, 2015, 04:08:52 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on February 20, 2015, 04:07:34 PM

putting Southwell at the 4 IMO made that 2013 team better than Frank would have had us. That along w/ signing Foster are easily oscar's two best coaching moves since he's been here.

Southwell at 4 happened to oscar, not by oscar.

CNS · « **Reply #113 on:** February 20, 2015, 04:09:13 PM »

Quote from: sys on February 20, 2015, 04:07:57 PM

Quote from: CNS on February 20, 2015, 04:03:18 PM
Edwards seems to have only slightly better hands than Hurt, though.

hurt's rebounding rates are really good!

Too bad he can't roll that in to more PT, I guess.

TheFormerKCCat · « **Reply #114 on:** February 20, 2015, 04:10:30 PM »

Quote from: CNS on February 20, 2015, 03:58:14 PM

Yep. Wes, Tre, Foster, Nino, Gip.

I could get behind this lineup. C'mon, oscar, make it so. Edwards in for brief stints to give Wes a breather (who takes over Point? I say Nigel). Would like to see Hurt come in an spot up for more outside shots too.

sys · « **Reply #115 on:** February 20, 2015, 04:10:53 PM »

Quote from: michigancat on February 20, 2015, 04:04:45 PM

I'd like to see Westicles at the 4 more next year

playing skilled players instead of big players is almost always a good move in college bball. kinda argues against foster at the one. he should be a three.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #116 on:** February 20, 2015, 04:12:17 PM »

Quote from: CNS on February 20, 2015, 04:05:37 PM

Quote from: michigancat on February 20, 2015, 04:04:45 PM
I'd like to see Westicles at the 4 more next year

Agreed. We need to southwell him as much as possible.

If he can beat out DWade that is!

I like Westicles at point in stretches. It's not like he does a lot well, but he's decent at assists and TOs.

I'd like to see Tre and Foster together 10 minutes a game.

More Nigel, less Jevon.

And yeah, give Hurt more stretches, he's good at boarding and scoring.

CNS · « **Reply #117 on:** February 20, 2015, 04:13:36 PM »

Wade and Brown need to be serviceable and quickly next year.

Mixed-Nutz · « **Reply #118 on:** February 20, 2015, 04:14:36 PM »

Quote from: sys on February 20, 2015, 04:10:53 PM

Quote from: michigancat on February 20, 2015, 04:04:45 PM
I'd like to see Westicles at the 4 more next year

playing skilled players instead of big players is almost always a good move in college bball. kinda argues against foster at the one. he should be a three.

Most skilled team next year probably would be....

1) Brown
2) Foster
3) Westicles / Tre (Do you want ball handling or shooting )
4) Wade
5) Hurt

Mixed-Nutz · « **Reply #119 on:** February 20, 2015, 04:16:17 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on February 20, 2015, 04:12:17 PM

Quote from: CNS on February 20, 2015, 04:05:37 PM
Quote from: michigancat on February 20, 2015, 04:04:45 PM
I'd like to see Westicles at the 4 more next year

Agreed. We need to southwell him as much as possible.

If he can beat out DWade that is!

I like Westicles at point in stretches. It's not like he does a lot well, but he's decent at assists and TOs.

I'd like to see Tre and Foster together 10 minutes a game.

More Nigel, less Jevon.

And yeah, give Hurt more stretches, he's good at boarding and scoring.

I don't know if Nigel is more skilled than Jevon. He can't penetrate, Jevon can't shoot. Not a fun discussion.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #120 on:** February 20, 2015, 04:16:36 PM »

I fully agree with cRusty, Harris should have been getting minutes all season long. He's the kind of shooter that plays and you adjust your defense accordingly if you have to . . . but he gets minutes.

CNS · « **Reply #121 on:** February 20, 2015, 04:16:53 PM »

We get very little from Jevon's penetration, though.

sys · « **Reply #122 on:** February 20, 2015, 04:17:05 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on February 20, 2015, 04:12:17 PM

I like Westicles at point in stretches. It's not like he does a lot well, but he's decent at assists and TOs.

he is?

michigancat · « **Reply #123 on:** February 20, 2015, 04:17:13 PM »

Quote from: Trim on February 20, 2015, 04:08:52 PM

Quote from: michigancat on February 20, 2015, 04:07:34 PM
putting Southwell at the 4 IMO made that 2013 team better than Frank would have had us. That along w/ signing Foster are easily oscar's two best coaching moves since he's been here.

Southwell at 4 happened to oscar, not by oscar.

eh, he had Diaz, JO, Nino, DJamer, and Gip. Frank would have had Upshaw instead of DJamer who would have taken some southie at the 4 minutes. I don't think Frank would have done it.

Quote from: sys on February 20, 2015, 04:10:53 PM

Quote from: michigancat on February 20, 2015, 04:04:45 PM
I'd like to see Westicles at the 4 more next year

playing skilled players instead of big players is almost always a good move in college bball. kinda argues against foster at the one. he should be a three.

Yeah, on most teams you're right because most teams have competent point guards. (we don't). I think the net "skill" of Foster + Harris + Edwards is greater than the net skill of Jevon + Foster + Edwards. Yeah Foster is less "skilled" than Jevon at ball handling but the addition of an above-average shooter more than makes up for it IMO.

Still, I'd be thrilled w/ sliding Foster to the 3 if it gets Harris more minutes.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #124 on:** February 20, 2015, 04:17:18 PM »

I'm just asking for 50-50 instead of 60-40 Jevon at this point.