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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #50 on: September 29, 2014, 06:39:02 PM »
I liked what I saw from Judah late in that game. He's got some really nice speed. GET HIM THE BALL!

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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #51 on: September 29, 2014, 06:39:46 PM »
I liked what I saw from Judah late in that game. He's got some really nice speed. GET HIM THE BALL!

I agree, someone should have waters stare him down from "hike".

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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #52 on: September 29, 2014, 07:16:42 PM »
He's scheduled correctly at a 75% clip thus far this season.

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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #53 on: September 29, 2014, 07:17:18 PM »
Even the Big12 coaches knew who the better QB was.  Perhaps you should put an app in for the ku job since you are smarter than all of them  :excited:

Plot twist: they were playing us, trying to put pressure on our staff to play the QB who clearly couldn't run a game plan in entirety.  :horrorsurprise:

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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #54 on: September 29, 2014, 07:22:06 PM »
i really wish we had taller and more athletic receivers.  like waters had at junior college.  at junior college.


Cheesy Mustache QB might make an appearance.

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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #55 on: September 29, 2014, 07:37:05 PM »
He is calling more plays on his own at the line of scrimmage and managing the clock a lot better. K-State is throwing about 5% more of the time, but we lead the league in TOP which is helping our defense. The Cats are averaging slightly less YPP, but more PPP than last year's team, but more importantly turning it over at a much lower rate.

What are the stats on turnovers, _Fan? I'm just curious.

Last year we had 1 turnover every 33.1 plays and an INT every 12.6 pass attempts. This year we have 1 turnover every 55.4 plays and an INT every 23.6 pass attempts. Last year we scored .52 points per play, this year we score .57 points per play. Granted, we aren't getting quite as many big plays (6.08 YPP this year, 6.32 YPP last), but we are more efficient in every other way. And the lower YPP combined with better PPP is probably a good thing right now because it is a sign of better TOP which IMO helps this team.

Granted, all of this is with a limited sample size, but a Top 10 team at home, an okay mid major, and a below average league opponent on the road through 1/4 of the season is a decent measure of a team.

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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #56 on: September 29, 2014, 07:42:57 PM »
an int every 12.4 sounds pretty bad when presented like that

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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #57 on: September 29, 2014, 07:56:59 PM »
an int every 12.4 sounds pretty bad when presented like that

It was, early in the year it was terrible.

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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #58 on: September 29, 2014, 09:30:38 PM »

His game at ISU was the best game he has played, by far.

No it's actually the bowl game.


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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #59 on: September 29, 2014, 09:32:26 PM »

His game at ISU was the best game he has played, by far.

No it's actually the bowl game.


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quit talking about the bowl game.  michigan is a train wreck

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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #60 on: September 29, 2014, 09:36:08 PM »
You're right carnes, Iowa state is better than them. So is OU, where he threw all over them.

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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #61 on: September 29, 2014, 09:45:38 PM »


His game at ISU was the best game he has played, by far.

No it's actually the bowl game.


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quit talking about the bowl game.  michigan is a train wreck

Regardless it was his best game.  He hasn't played a great game vs a top 40 team.


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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #62 on: September 29, 2014, 10:11:10 PM »
Is play calling and routes Waters fault.  It seems like that's a lot of the problem.

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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #63 on: September 30, 2014, 12:48:34 AM »

His game at ISU was the best game he has played, by far.

No it's actually the bowl game.


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He played well in the bowl game, no doubt.  But, in reality, most of the people on this board could've hit Lockett in that game.

At ISU, I thought he showed some toughness and spirit (Snyder words) that I had never seen before.  I mean, last year he fumbled upon contacting a butt.  At Iowa State this year, he got rocked multiple times and hung on to the ball.  I hope we see that Jake Waters again this season.  (Like, from here on out.)

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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #64 on: September 30, 2014, 01:37:06 AM »
so jake gets credit for now not fumbling on contact?  oh, well eff me, that's 1st team all big 12 criteria if I've ever seen it.

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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #65 on: September 30, 2014, 08:28:50 AM »
The difference is in the Iowa State game Jake played like crap before he played pretty good. 

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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #66 on: September 30, 2014, 08:37:58 AM »
How many turnovers have we created? 2 not including blocked punts?  :sdeek:
great time to have tacos tech coming in wouldnt you say brad?

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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #67 on: September 30, 2014, 08:44:36 AM »
Waters is ok. He's never going to be the QB that leads a team to a conference championship or anything. I agree with the "average Big 12 QB" and "7-5 or 8-4" type QB. I think he has gotten better than last year. at least better than his beginning of last year. that was about as awful as someone could begin a season though.

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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #68 on: September 30, 2014, 08:46:25 AM »
I think some of you are being a little dramatic. Enjoy his arm, dorks.

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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #69 on: September 30, 2014, 08:49:26 AM »
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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #70 on: September 30, 2014, 08:50:13 AM »
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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #71 on: September 30, 2014, 09:03:56 AM »
I think some of you are being a little dramatic. Enjoy his arm, dorks.

This.  Waters is fine.  He's an upper-half QB.  certainly good enough to win 8 or 9 games.  We'll learn a lot about him in the next few games. 

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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #72 on: September 30, 2014, 09:12:16 AM »
I think some of you are being a little dramatic. Enjoy his arm, dorks.

Is a "his arm" like a special sex toy for all the ladies out there?

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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #73 on: September 30, 2014, 09:15:15 AM »
I think some of you are being a little dramatic. Enjoy his arm, dorks.

Is a "his arm" like a special sex toy for all the ladies out there?
It's a rough ridin' lethal weapon that can strike at any moment.

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Re: Has Waters Improved?
« Reply #74 on: September 30, 2014, 09:26:02 AM »
It looks like he's scheduled 3 likely wins out of the next 4 games.