Has Waters Improved?

[Panjandrum]

This is exactly what I thought our offense would have probably looked like if we actually made Marc Dunn the full time starter in 2002.

[Panjandrum]

But I should add that I think Waters is a better runner than Dunn.  But roughly the same arm.

[Bookcat]

He's tucking it when he should. Good accuracy. Not turning it over.

100% not his fault we lost to Auburn. He's improved.

[#LIFE]

He's tucking it when he should. Good accuracy. Not turning it over.

100% not his fault we lost to Auburn. He's improved.

Not even 1% huh?

Not his fault he fumbled inside the 25 on our 1st possession.  Not his fault we couldn't score TD's and settled for FG's.  Good grief 

[kim carnes]

He doesn't have "it".   Also, he is pretty bad in the pocket when under pressure. Other than that I don't really have a problem with him. 

[420seriouscat69]

I wish we had better shitty posters.

[#LIFE]

I wish we had a better QB 

[catzacker]

Gotta agree that Jake Waters is a nice little 8-4, 7-5 type quarterback.

This.  He is an avg big 12 qb. 

[pissclams]

Gotta agree that Jake Waters is a nice little 8-4, 7-5 type quarterback.

This.  He is an avg big 12 qb. 

that's pretty good for k-state

[catzacker]

Gotta agree that Jake Waters is a nice little 8-4, 7-5 type quarterback.

This.  He is an avg big 12 qb. 

that's pretty good for k-state

 I suppose. hopefully he's good enough to make big 12 honorable mention this year.

[ksupamplemousse]

Gotta agree that Jake Waters is a nice little 8-4, 7-5 type quarterback.

This.  He is an avg big 12 qb. 

that's pretty good for k-state

 I suppose. hopefully he's good enough to make big 12 honorable mention this year.

If he isn't, we're going to be terrible.

[sonofdaxjones]

Jake is a throwback to KSU QB's who were pretty good, but could never lead the team to wins over anybody who was really good.

I mean, it's almost like Jake should be wearing a Cooper Bowl windbreaker on the sidelines, maybe a 1995 Holiday Bowl hat.

Oh, and he's not a high stepper, because we all know how much Dana Dimel hates that got damn high stepping.

[star seed 7]

His accuracy is still really terrible, but at least the throws are catchable (for less yardage and tds than they should be) instead of 10ft overhead or in the dirt.

[420seriouscat69]

His accuracy is still really terrible, but at least the throws are catchable (for less yardage and tds than they should be) instead of 10ft overhead or in the dirt.

Compared to what? He throws it at 62% with a gimpy/stone hands lockett and a bunch of other shitty guys we throw out there.

[star seed 7]

Compared to good college qbs

[#LIFE]

Jesus Wacky, the only reason people even know who Jake Waters is is because of Lockett 

[CNS]

Much much better running as far as the eye test goes, imo.  I don't cringe and curse as often when he runs now.

[420seriouscat69]

Jesus Wacky, the only reason people even know who Jake Waters is is because of Lockett 

You're a rough ridin' horrible poster and it's well know on this board, so we all know you're a complete dumbass. I'll just never understand the butthurt spradling syndrome we have for Waters. Other than he chased off the sexy athletic qb that he beat out who shares time with a fcs team now. 

[#LIFE]

Even the Big12 coaches knew who the better QB was.  Perhaps you should put an app in for the ku job since you are smarter than all of them 

[Pett]

Yes. Better pocket presence

[star seed 7]

You should sit threads like this out fanning, you're not capable of objectively looking at waters related performances

#Life should sit out every thread

[ksupamplemousse]

Jake is always going to be pretty dependent on what's happening around him. The o-line has to be able to establish a ground game (Charles Jones is a perfectly fine running back, just needs some goddamn holes to run through), and we need another receiver to be able to get some kind of separation on a consistent basis. If those things happen, we might challenge for the conference. If not, then we'll probably be closer to Zacker's prediction. He's just a product of the talent around him.

[pvegs]

Jake is always going to be pretty dependent on what's happening around him. The o-line has to be able to establish a ground game (Charles Jones is a perfectly fine running back, just needs some goddamn holes to run through), and we need another receiver to be able to get some kind of separation on a consistent basis. If those things happen, we might challenge for the conference. If not, then we'll probably be closer to Zacker's prediction. He's just a product of the talent around him.

Yeah, I guess this is my point too. He's just not the talent to overcome our other limitations. This is a slightly above average team lead by a slightly above average qb.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Jesus Wacky, the only reason people even know who Jake Waters is is because of Lockett 

If Lockett had made the easy catch in the endzone, Jake would be the QB of a top 10 team and we would love him.

[Steffy08]

His game at ISU was the best game he has played, by far.

We are missing Thompson big-time this year.  Other than Lockett, the receivers we have been playing depend on schemes to get open.

I'm still hopeful that J. Jones or Davis comes on strong.