Bill's Word

[bones129]

Bill's quote:  “Number one, I was clueless in regards to what they were trying to tell me. Number two, whatever the ruling was just did not seem to be appropriate. Apparently there is a rule to that effect that I am totally unaware of. That is the first thing I am going to do when I walk out of here is find that rule. They did the best they could. It just took them an hour and a half to do it.”

If you didn't like Bill before that, you should like him now.

[Rage Against the McKee]

That play was bullshit. The refs should learn the rules of the game so they don't blow inadvertent whistles during huge plays.

[bucket]

Bill's quote:  “Number one, I was clueless in regards to what they were trying to tell me. Number two, whatever the ruling was just did not seem to be appropriate. Apparently there is a rule to that effect that I am totally unaware of. That is the first thing I am going to do when I walk out of here is find that rule. They did the best they could. It just took them an hour and a half to do it.”

If you didn't like Bill before that, you should like him now.

middle finger

[kso_FAN]

It was dumb by the official, but somewhat understandable. He blew the whistle because the UTEP player possessed the ball.  If the ball was beyond the line of scrimmage, then the play would be dead at that point, kind of like downing a punt. However, if the ball is still behind the LOS, even after a block, the kicking team can pick it up and advance it for a first down, which UTEP tried to do. After the official blew the whistle when the player grabbed the ball the play was dead though and by rule it had to be replayed.

[Trim]

I want all our coaches and players to know the rules.

[everyone shut up]

thankfully it didn't affect the outcome of this game. but it could have tremendous impact in a close game. does sean not teach special teams to recover a blocked punt?

[Pett]

Easy call, the ref made a mistake. Inadvertent whistle always means replay of down

No reason to review the play, the refs were obviously showing the legend respect

[star seed 7]

I thought inadvertent whistle meant deadball where the whistle was blown, meaning we get the ball on downs.

Booed them pretty hard for it

[Pett]

The play was live and UTEP had possession, ball carrier was tackled right after the whistle was blown. Rules say you have to give UTEP the benefit of the doubt because their player might have heard it and stopped running

It's a bullshit rule and we were screwed. Should be judged on the instance, not just a set rule

[CyberToothCat]

It was dumb by the official, but somewhat understandable. He blew the whistle because the UTEP player possessed the ball.  If the ball was beyond the line of scrimmage, then the play would be dead at that point, kind of like downing a punt. However, if the ball is still behind the LOS, even after a block, the kicking team can pick it up and advance it for a first down, which UTEP tried to do. After the official blew the whistle when the player grabbed the ball the play was dead though and by rule it had to be replayed.

Listening to him at the stadium, the ref said a couple of times that the whistle was blown before the fumble. What fumble was he talking about, and how did it impact the call?

[SkinnyBenny]

I also did not see a fumble at all that was mentioned multiple times.

[Trim]

Possible he was talking about when the UTEP guy touched the ball but couldn't corral it before long-hair got it and started rumbling.  Maybe in the weird context of a punt-block'd ball behind the line of scrimmage, refs think of that as a fumble.

[GoodForAnother]

It was dumb by the official, but somewhat understandable. He blew the whistle because the UTEP player possessed the ball.  If the ball was beyond the line of scrimmage, then the play would be dead at that point, kind of like downing a punt. However, if the ball is still behind the LOS, even after a block, the kicking team can pick it up and advance it for a first down, which UTEP tried to do. After the official blew the whistle when the player grabbed the ball the play was dead though and by rule it had to be replayed.

Listening to him at the stadium, the ref said a couple of times that the whistle was blown before the fumble. What fumble was he talking about, and how did it impact the call?

Ben Leber on the color commentary had a great quip where he said, "unless this guy is a psychic and is seeing a future fumble that hasn't occurred yet, I'm not sure what he's talking about" or something to that effect

[#LIFE]

Ben Leber on the color commentary had a great quip where he said, "unless this guy is a psychic and is seeing a future fumble that hasn't occurred yet, I'm not sure what he's talking about" or something to that effect

Leber was fantastic yesterday 

[KITNfury]

Seems to me that the rule should simply state that once kicked, possession has been given up.

[Houstoncat93]

I thought inadvertent whistle meant deadball where the whistle was blown, meaning we get the ball on downs.

Booed them pretty hard for it

They had the option to replay or take the ball where the whistle was blown.  Since it was fourth down and he was short of the first down they obviously would replay the down.  The whistle as bad but what was totally unacceptable was how long it took for the refs to figure it all out.  It made them really look like they didn't have a clue.

[8manpick]

Wyatt was fuming.

[star seed 7]

Wyatt was fuming.

Good

[MakeItRain]

thankfully it didn't affect the outcome of this game. but it could have tremendous impact in a close game. does sean not teach special teams to recover a blocked punt?

Yeah, you're rightfully taught not to rough ridin' touch it, dummy. If someone tried to scoop it and messed it up it would result in a change in possession and a first down for the team punting if they recover it. Unless you're free and clear you should leave the ball alone in that instance.

[MakeItRain]

Easy call, the ref made a mistake. Inadvertent whistle always means replay of down

No reason to review the play, the refs were obviously showing the legend respect

Gooch said the "review" was them thumbing through the rule book and I think he was right. The better one was later in the game when Patterson's kickoff hit the dudes leg and took a right turn out of bounds and the official somehow missed it and the replay official was like "meh, who cares, the game is over."

[_33]

thankfully it didn't affect the outcome of this game. but it could have tremendous impact in a close game. does sean not teach special teams to recover a blocked punt?

Yeah, you're rightfully taught not to rough ridin' touch it, dummy. If someone tried to scoop it and messed it up it would result in a change in possession and a first down for the team punting if they recover it. Unless you're free and clear you should leave the ball alone in that instance.

By "free and clear" do you mean 4 of our guys standing at the 5 yard line watching the ball gently float back down to earth with no UTEP players anywhere near?  All one of them had to do was catch the ball and fall over into the end zone.

[MakeItRain]

thankfully it didn't affect the outcome of this game. but it could have tremendous impact in a close game. does sean not teach special teams to recover a blocked punt?

Yeah, you're rightfully taught not to rough ridin' touch it, dummy. If someone tried to scoop it and messed it up it would result in a change in possession and a first down for the team punting if they recover it. Unless you're free and clear you should leave the ball alone in that instance.

By "free and clear" do you mean 4 of our guys standing at the 5 yard line watching the ball gently float back down to earth with no UTEP players anywhere near?  All one of them had to do was catch the ball and fall over into the end zone.

If that's what happened, sure I guess. In the stadium it seemed a bit more chaotic than that, seems like whomever blew his whistle thought it was chaotic as well. I mean you can't argue with the play that the players made, if the official didn't screw up we have the ball 1st and 10 on the 21.

[pissclams]

Ben Leber on the color commentary had a great quip where he said, "unless this guy is a psychic and is seeing a future fumble that hasn't occurred yet, I'm not sure what he's talking about" or something to that effect

Leber was fantastic yesterday 

he's really good

[Gooch]

Ben Leber on the color commentary had a great quip where he said, "unless this guy is a psychic and is seeing a future fumble that hasn't occurred yet, I'm not sure what he's talking about" or something to that effect

Leber was fantastic yesterday 

he's really good

Such a professional. He never lol'd once during the KU Central Michigan game. And there were multiple lol moments.

[everyone shut up]

thankfully it didn't affect the outcome of this game. but it could have tremendous impact in a close game. does sean not teach special teams to recover a blocked punt?

Yeah, you're rightfully taught not to rough ridin' touch it, dummy. If someone tried to scoop it and messed it up it would result in a change in possession and a first down for the team punting if they recover it. Unless you're free and clear you should leave the ball alone in that instance.

i wasn't taking a shot at sean, i just didn't understand why nobody tried to catch it. seems like a mental error by about 4 of our special teams players. must be dummies.