Another school shooting

[puniraptor]

People are lazy. Guns are easy. Like murder Netflix. Knives are rough ridin' blockbuster video.

[michigancat]

If you are on meds for, and/or have a diagnosis of any kind of mental illness, no gun for you, imo. Like, ever.

that's a violation of their rights, and I'm being 100% serious

expanding on this, are there any other rights the law-abiding mentally ill don't deserve? Freedom of religion? They can be subject to illegal search and seizure?

[wetwillie]

How do other countries in the world prevent their citizens from gunning each other down?

[CNS]

If you are on meds for, and/or have a diagnosis of any kind of mental illness, no gun for you, imo. Like, ever.

that's a violation of their rights, and I'm being 100% serious

expanding on this, are there any other rights the law-abiding mentally ill don't deserve? Freedom of religion? They can be subject to illegal search and seizure?

Ok, how about just those mental illnesses that have led to murder?

[puniraptor]

How do other countries in the world prevent their citizens from gunning each other down?

They banned and confiscated guns.

[mocat]

How do other countries in the world prevent their citizens from gunning each other down?

They banned and confiscated guns.

They did?

[michigancat]

If you are on meds for, and/or have a diagnosis of any kind of mental illness, no gun for you, imo. Like, ever.

that's a violation of their rights, and I'm being 100% serious

expanding on this, are there any other rights the law-abiding mentally ill don't deserve? Freedom of religion? They can be subject to illegal search and seizure?

Ok, how about just those mental illnesses that have led to murder?

I'm sure you could make an argument that every diagnosed mental illness has led to murder. But why should a person with something like diagnosed depression that has never hurt a soul not have access to firearms, as is their constitutional right?

[puniraptor]

How do other countries in the world prevent their citizens from gunning each other down?

They banned and confiscated guns.

They did?

I did absolutely no research but I can think of 2 or 3 examples of this

[wetwillie]

How do other countries in the world prevent their citizens from gunning each other down?

They banned and confiscated guns.

They did?

I did absolutely no research but I can think of 2 or 3 examples of this

What examples

[CNS]

If you are on meds for, and/or have a diagnosis of any kind of mental illness, no gun for you, imo. Like, ever.

that's a violation of their rights, and I'm being 100% serious

expanding on this, are there any other rights the law-abiding mentally ill don't deserve? Freedom of religion? They can be subject to illegal search and seizure?

Ok, how about just those mental illnesses that have led to murder?

I'm sure you could make an argument that every diagnosed mental illness has led to murder. But why should a person with something like diagnosed depression that has never hurt a soul not have access to firearms, as is their constitutional right?

well the only answer then is to take all the guns(that isn't even an answer, though).   Also, I don't necessarily think the constitutions intent is for everyone to have a gun.  Not unless they are part of an organized militia.  Also, the need that the constitution was trying to address is moot at the point in which we find ourselves, in the lack of balance between personal ownership and military level weapons.

[SdK]

First thing I hear when I walk in to work "you know he was a mommy right? He was mad because he got outed."

[puniraptor]

How do other countries in the world prevent their citizens from gunning each other down?

They banned and confiscated guns.

They did?

I did absolutely no research but I can think of 2 or 3 examples of this

What examples

Australia, UK, Japan

[mocat]

Guns are not banned in Australia

[puniraptor]

Guns are not banned in Australia

By American standards, they pretty much are.

[mocat]

The gun that was used today is not banned

[michigancat]

well the only answer then is to take all the guns(that isn't even an answer, though).

This isn't true. Start with a training/license program. Register every gun with the government. heavy taxes on ammunition, etc. there's tons of ways to make it more difficult to purchase a firearm without "taking all guns" or deciding large segments of the law-abiding population no longer are granted Constitutional rights.

Also, I don't necessarily think the constitutions intent is for everyone to have a gun.  Not unless they are part of an organized militia.  Also, the need that the constitution was trying to address is moot at the point in which we find ourselves, in the lack of balance between personal ownership and military level weapons.

It doesn't matter what the constitution's intent was - it's how it's currently interpreted.

[DQ12]

Sticking with my theory that all we need to do is ban the production of lethal bullets.  I have no clue how feasible that is.

[wetwillie]

How do other countries in the world prevent their citizens from gunning each other down?

They banned and confiscated guns.

They did?

I did absolutely no research but I can think of 2 or 3 examples of this

What examples

Australia, UK, Japan

These countries confiscated all the existing guns?

[puniraptor]

How do other countries in the world prevent their citizens from gunning each other down?

They banned and confiscated guns.

They did?

I did absolutely no research but I can think of 2 or 3 examples of this

What examples

Australia, UK, Japan

These countries confiscated all the existing guns?

Buybacks and amnesty periods after which possession was criminal

[puniraptor]

The gun that was used today is not banned

Limited to security professionals and target shooters with extremely stringent registration, application, and vetting process with at least 6 months of supervised training. That's a ban in USA terms.

[mocat]

I mean I'm all for that but it's not a ban

[wetwillie]

I like rustys tax on ammo idea

[puniraptor]

Fine

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I like rustys tax on ammo idea

Yes, only the wealthy will have access to ammo, and a huge black market opportunity for gangs.

[puniraptor]

I like rustys tax on ammo idea

Yes, only the wealthy will have access to ammo, and a huge black market opportunity for gangs.

Knife prices will skyrocket I bet