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Title: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: KsuWildcatsXII on March 21, 2018, 10:51:00 AM
If you could lift up the rug on one of K-State's "mystery" stories and have access to every single detail, which would you choose? The Venables fallout? The Ron Prince napkin agreement? The Jamar Samuel receipt? It's Patterson? I'm sure there are others I'm not currently thinking of, but I'd really like to know how that stupid receipt ended up in the compliance office.
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: Pete on March 21, 2018, 11:13:47 AM
I used to be all-in on wanting to know the Venzy story, but I do not need to know that.  He has his reasons and I respect that.

So, my vote would be for the behind the scenes access to the ongoing “Sean or no Sean” saga.
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: ChiComCat on March 21, 2018, 11:21:06 AM
I don't know if there is anything secretive about it but I would love to have been a fly on the wall to watch Manny Dies frat incident.

Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: manpow5 on March 21, 2018, 11:37:28 AM
Man this time of year is slow for football news....
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: Cire on March 21, 2018, 12:09:35 PM
I want to be in every single one of Ron Prince's meetings/convos.
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: 8manpick on March 21, 2018, 12:42:46 PM
Receipt gate and the motivations therein
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: The Big Train on March 21, 2018, 12:43:58 PM
Ron prince playbook funeral
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 21, 2018, 01:05:19 PM
I would have liked to be in the room when Snyder took a phone call from one of the bigger programs trying to lure him away. I want to hear what he exactly says.
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 21, 2018, 01:10:21 PM
Venzy if it included disclosure of every contact or lack of between anyone from KSUAD and him since 98 or so
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: DQ12 on March 21, 2018, 02:29:24 PM
yeah gotta be prince stuff for me.  anything snyder related would be a snoozefest. 
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: 'taterblast on March 21, 2018, 02:34:17 PM
It's Patterson
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: CHONGS on March 21, 2018, 02:34:35 PM
The vanier vandalism
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: DQ12 on March 21, 2018, 03:06:18 PM
The vanier vandalism
it was the squawks, dude.  end of story.
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 21, 2018, 03:21:22 PM
yeah gotta be prince stuff for me.  anything snyder related would be a snoozefest.

Which Prince stuff?  The napkin contract is pretty easy to get the scoop.  If you happen to be by the Riley County courthouse
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: Woogy on March 21, 2018, 03:23:34 PM
Not K-State's rug, but I would probably actually go for the schadenfreude and think a complete telling of all sides of the events of Currie's last two weeks at Tennessee would be incredible.
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 21, 2018, 04:47:31 PM
It's Patterson

this story is fairly accurate with what was reported regarding the deal being done and him getting pissed off about Fatzgerald leaking it.  My superintendent at the time was Gary's best man and former teammate.
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: DQ12 on March 21, 2018, 04:50:54 PM
yeah gotta be prince stuff for me.  anything snyder related would be a snoozefest.

Which Prince stuff? 
i don't know.  everything.  just give me access to all of his communications between 2006 and 2009.
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on March 21, 2018, 04:53:06 PM
I would like to be in the same room with ADJC as he checks his mentions on twitter and watch his reaction to it.
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: The Big Train on March 21, 2018, 04:57:19 PM
I would like to be in the same room with ADJC as he checks his mentions on twitter and watch his reaction to it.

From him not blocking anyone and never replying my minds eye is this:  :users:
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: Trim on March 21, 2018, 05:10:49 PM
Amy Button Renz’s reign of terror.
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: TheTruth on March 21, 2018, 05:46:32 PM
It's Patterson

this story is fairly accurate with what was reported regarding the deal being done and him getting pissed off about Fatzgerald leaking it.  My superintendent at the time was Gary's best man and former teammate.

So in an alternate universe where Patterson ended up coming to K-State, and assuming he doesn't stink it up and get fired like Prince (and is still here), what is Snyder doing in that scenario? Does he stay retired and miserable? Have Patterson killed so he can come back?
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: Dugout DickStone on March 21, 2018, 07:39:41 PM
It's Patterson

this story is fairly accurate with what was reported regarding the deal being done and him getting pissed off about Fatzgerald leaking it.  My superintendent at the time was Gary's best man and former teammate.

So in an alternate universe where Patterson ended up coming to K-State, and assuming he doesn't stink it up and get fired like Prince (and is still here), what is Snyder doing in that scenario? Does he stay retired and miserable? Have Patterson killed so he can come back?

Hard core ‘toring.  24/7
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: Katpappy on March 21, 2018, 07:47:27 PM
It's Patterson

this story is fairly accurate with what was reported regarding the deal being done and him getting pissed off about Fatzgerald leaking it.  My superintendent at the time was Gary's best man and former teammate.
I call bullshit on this story.  Snyder  himself said that Wefald asked him if he would come back about two weeks before Prince was fired.  He had to ask his family if it was OK to return before he let Wefald know.  Prince was fired shortly after that.  Patterson was some kind of stupid Kraus deal unapproved by Wefald.
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: manpow5 on March 22, 2018, 12:42:12 PM
It's Patterson

this story is fairly accurate with what was reported regarding the deal being done and him getting pissed off about Fatzgerald leaking it.  My superintendent at the time was Gary's best man and former teammate.

So in an alternate universe where Patterson ended up coming to K-State, and assuming he doesn't stink it up and get fired like Prince (and is still here), what is Snyder doing in that scenario? Does he stay retired and miserable? Have Patterson killed so he can come back?

If he was able to be successful here he probably would have jumped ship to a bigger program (Maybe a bigger Texas school). Synder would have come back, but maybe 2010 or 11 rather than 2009.
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 22, 2018, 12:58:52 PM
It's Patterson

this story is fairly accurate with what was reported regarding the deal being done and him getting pissed off about Fatzgerald leaking it.  My superintendent at the time was Gary's best man and former teammate.
I call bullshit on this story.  Snyder  himself said that Wefald asked him if he would come back about two weeks before Prince was fired.  He had to ask his family if it was OK to return before he let Wefald know.  Prince was fired shortly after that.  Patterson was some kind of stupid Kraus deal unapproved by Wefald.

Wefald had his own agenda.   I was in a luxury suite with a large RE tycoon from KC, who was on the search committee.    The committee had it's plan, and Wefald has his own, and was working to sabotage the committee.
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: Katpappy on March 22, 2018, 08:51:40 PM
It's Patterson

this story is fairly accurate with what was reported regarding the deal being done and him getting pissed off about Fatzgerald leaking it.  My superintendent at the time was Gary's best man and former teammate.
I call bullshit on this story.  Snyder  himself said that Wefald asked him if he would come back about two weeks before Prince was fired.  He had to ask his family if it was OK to return before he let Wefald know.  Prince was fired shortly after that.  Patterson was some kind of stupid Kraus deal unapproved by Wefald.

Wefald had his own agenda.   I was in a luxury suite with a large RE tycoon from KC, who was on the search committee.    The committee had it's plan, and Wefald has his own, and was working to sabotage the committee.

I don't think there was a deal settled on when Fat=Friz made the announcement.
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on March 23, 2018, 11:59:20 AM
It's Patterson

this story is fairly accurate with what was reported regarding the deal being done and him getting pissed off about Fatzgerald leaking it.  My superintendent at the time was Gary's best man and former teammate.
I call bullshit on this story.  Snyder  himself said that Wefald asked him if he would come back about two weeks before Prince was fired.  He had to ask his family if it was OK to return before he let Wefald know.  Prince was fired shortly after that.  Patterson was some kind of stupid Kraus deal unapproved by Wefald.

Wefald had his own agenda.   I was in a luxury suite with a large RE tycoon from KC, who was on the search committee.    The committee had it's plan, and Wefald has his own, and was working to sabotage the committee.

I don't think there was a deal settled on when Fat=Friz made the announcement.

I was told he had agreed to come, but wanted to wait until after the bowl game to announce.   Now, where the paperwork process was, who knows.
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: Skipper44 on March 23, 2018, 02:56:59 PM
It's Patterson

this story is fairly accurate with what was reported regarding the deal being done and him getting pissed off about Fatzgerald leaking it.  My superintendent at the time was Gary's best man and former teammate.
I call bullshit on this story.  Snyder  himself said that Wefald asked him if he would come back about two weeks before Prince was fired.  He had to ask his family if it was OK to return before he let Wefald know.  Prince was fired shortly after that.  Patterson was some kind of stupid Kraus deal unapproved by Wefald.

Wefald had his own agenda.   I was in a luxury suite with a large RE tycoon from KC, who was on the search committee.    The committee had it's plan, and Wefald has his own, and was working to sabotage the committee.

I don't think there was a deal settled on when Fat=Friz made the announcement.

I was told he had agreed to come, but wanted to wait until after the bowl game to announce.   Now, where the paperwork process was, who knows.
I believe Patterson only wanted to coach the bowl game if it was a BCS bowl and when they lost to Utah that was no longer a possibility and Fitz ran the story the next day.   I think this is just part of the story tho.
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: Katpappy on March 25, 2018, 12:24:50 PM
I believe Snyder is the reason Wefald fired Prince.  Without the agreement I believe Prince would have had a few more years, before the inevitable.
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: wazucat on March 27, 2018, 12:04:53 AM
I used to be all-in on wanting to know the Venzy story, but I do not need to know that.  He has his reasons and I respect that.

So, my vote would be for the behind the scenes access to the ongoing “Sean or no Sean” saga.

Yeah Sean / no Sean the entire saga, and somewhat related is good old Captain Crap the missing in action information source actually Laird Veatch??
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: Cire on March 27, 2018, 07:59:16 AM
Yeah, What position was captain crap actually in?
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: MadCat on March 27, 2018, 09:26:52 AM
Athletic Director / Construction Hat Model / Trash Can Diver :dunno:
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: deputy dawg on March 27, 2018, 10:44:55 AM
I want to know what Bunny looks like--Bunny is allegedly the woman Ron Prince dippy-doodled for too long, making him late for a Hays Catbackers meeting he was supposed to be at. 
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: LickNeckey on March 27, 2018, 12:49:26 PM
Bunny was a very busty Bartender that used to work at Chuck's in Hays.

fairly hot
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: deputy dawg on March 30, 2018, 09:32:55 AM
My contact at Hays Catbackers said that the group was pretty pissed at Prince Ron - he apparently told them the reason he was late was he was speaking with recruits.  Several of the Catbackers knew that Prince was with Bunny, and that he had lied to them.  He wasn't just a little late, he was like 45 - 60 minutes late....   Support from that Catbackers club led them later to be pretty strident in demanding Prince's dismissal, and several lowered their financial support of the athletic dept. 

I was wondering if Bunny was worth it.
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: mocat on March 30, 2018, 10:41:09 AM
what is an RE tycoon?
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: PurpleOil on March 30, 2018, 10:55:04 AM
I want to know what Bunny looks like

 :impatient:
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: KsuWildcatsXII on March 31, 2018, 01:18:47 AM
Was just reading an old Meek story from the fallout of the secret agreement. Bored and can't sleep. As a last-ditch effort to void the deal, Krause offered to take out a life insurance policy and name Ronald the beneficiary. I remember this whole thing being a damn cartoon, but I'm not sure I'd ever heard that detail.

Kinda morbidly ironic, given how everything turned out...
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: Trim on March 31, 2018, 01:33:30 AM
Was just reading an old Meek story from the fallout of the secret agreement. Bored and can't sleep. As a last-ditch effort to void the deal, Krause offered to take out a life insurance policy and name Ronald the beneficiary. I remember this whole thing being a damn cartoon, but I'm not sure I'd ever heard that detail.

Kinda morbidly ironic, given how everything turned out...


The whole thread was named for that.
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: MakeItRain on March 31, 2018, 09:47:28 AM
Was just reading an old Meek story from the fallout of the secret agreement. Bored and can't sleep. As a last-ditch effort to void the deal, Krause offered to take out a life insurance policy and name Ronald the beneficiary. I remember this whole thing being a damn cartoon, but I'm not sure I'd ever heard that detail.

Kinda morbidly ironic, given how everything turned out...


The whole thread was named for that.

"Ron Prince Stories?"
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: Trim on March 31, 2018, 09:57:02 AM
Was just reading an old Meek story from the fallout of the secret agreement. Bored and can't sleep. As a last-ditch effort to void the deal, Krause offered to take out a life insurance policy and name Ronald the beneficiary. I remember this whole thing being a damn cartoon, but I'm not sure I'd ever heard that detail.

Kinda morbidly ironic, given how everything turned out...


The whole thread was named for that.

"Ron Prince Stories?"

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=4831.0
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: KsuWildcatsXII on April 02, 2018, 10:26:18 AM
Was just reading an old Meek story from the fallout of the secret agreement. Bored and can't sleep. As a last-ditch effort to void the deal, Krause offered to take out a life insurance policy and name Ronald the beneficiary. I remember this whole thing being a damn cartoon, but I'm not sure I'd ever heard that detail.

Kinda morbidly ironic, given how everything turned out...


The whole thread was named for that.

"Ron Prince Stories?"

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=4831.0

Ha, oh. I'm new(ish) to the board and haven't really dug into any old posts. Ignore me.
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: Dugout DickStone on April 02, 2018, 10:41:06 AM
Was just reading an old Meek story from the fallout of the secret agreement. Bored and can't sleep. As a last-ditch effort to void the deal, Krause offered to take out a life insurance policy and name Ronald the beneficiary. I remember this whole thing being a damn cartoon, but I'm not sure I'd ever heard that detail.

Kinda morbidly ironic, given how everything turned out...


The whole thread was named for that.

"Ron Prince Stories?"

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=4831.0

Ha, oh. I'm new(ish) to the board and haven't really dug into any old posts. Ignore me.

Go read that thread bro.  It is intense
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: kso_FAN on April 02, 2018, 11:19:25 AM
Yeah, What position was captain crap actually in?

Web/internet services director for athletics. He no longer works there though.
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: 8manpick on April 02, 2018, 11:39:38 AM
what is an RE tycoon?
Real Estate?
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: Mikeyis4dcats on April 05, 2018, 03:48:29 PM
what is an RE tycoon?
Real Estate?

correct
Title: Re: If you could lift up the rug...
Post by: Cire on April 06, 2018, 12:13:21 PM
Heard that seff told vick to GTFO