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Re: Football
« Reply #75 on: November 30, 2015, 05:42:16 PM »
can you imagine if they would have used Eddie Murphy instead of Will Smith!

Would watch eventually.

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Re: Football
« Reply #76 on: November 30, 2015, 05:49:32 PM »
What's the % of football players that end up with concussions? Like life altering, concussions? If my 7 year old wants to be active and play football, he can go for it. He'll learn a hell of a lot more about playing with a team, when it comes to the game of life vs playing video games and chasing puppies.
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« Reply #77 on: November 30, 2015, 05:55:07 PM »

is football participation down yet in junior high/high school?

My experience says yes. I'm pretty sure the stats do too.

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Re: Football
« Reply #78 on: November 30, 2015, 08:42:49 PM »

is football participation down yet in junior high/high school?

My experience says yes. I'm pretty sure the stats do too.

It's down about 8% at the "youth level" which typically includes youngsters up to 8th grade. HS participation has been pretty stable nationwide.

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Re: Football
« Reply #79 on: November 30, 2015, 09:11:07 PM »
The NFL's own television partners are running ads for the upcoming concussion movie.

Given that football will be extinct in a few decades:

1) Should we just let the Snyder family tree ride it out?
2) What should we do w/BSFS at that point?

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Re: Football
« Reply #80 on: November 30, 2015, 09:13:43 PM »
The NFL's own television partners are running ads for the upcoming concussion movie.

Given that football will be extinct in a few decades:

1) Should we just let the Snyder family tree ride it out?
2) What should we do w/BSFS at that point?

Turn it into the official yard orgy spot of Fake St. Patrick's Day.

Nice.  Now just need another 5-6 special events and we're good.

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Re: Football
« Reply #81 on: November 30, 2015, 11:04:16 PM »
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Re: Football
« Reply #82 on: December 01, 2015, 10:00:53 AM »
Meh, I think this is a non-issue for non NFL players.

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Re: Football
« Reply #83 on: December 01, 2015, 10:23:30 AM »
Stadium should be given to NBAF and made into a huge aquarium for their mutant fish.

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« Reply #84 on: December 01, 2015, 11:06:53 AM »
You think FOX spent millions on those robot promos because they add to the viewers' enjoyment? They are preparing us for robot football.

We should be pretty competitive with the nuclear reactor and what not.

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Re: Football
« Reply #85 on: December 01, 2015, 07:48:25 PM »
Robotics team is bitb.


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Re: Football
« Reply #86 on: December 01, 2015, 07:54:28 PM »

What is the life of the fixed assets in the stadium?

I wouldn't worry about that.  I expect the government to announce special bonus depreciation on football improvements (thanks Trump).

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Re: Football
« Reply #87 on: December 01, 2015, 07:56:34 PM »
Robot football actually sounds pretty fantastic. 
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Re: Football
« Reply #88 on: December 01, 2015, 07:59:58 PM »
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Re: Football
« Reply #89 on: December 01, 2015, 08:40:22 PM »
Robot football actually sounds pretty fantastic.
Still recruit individuals to control each player.  Sidelines would be a bunch of recliners and the stadium sponsor would be Mt Dew.

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Re: Football
« Reply #90 on: December 01, 2015, 09:18:22 PM »
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Re: Football
« Reply #91 on: December 01, 2015, 09:19:15 PM »
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Re: Football
« Reply #92 on: December 01, 2015, 09:19:31 PM »
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Re: Football
« Reply #93 on: December 01, 2015, 09:41:43 PM »

is football participation down yet in junior high/high school?

My experience says yes. I'm pretty sure the stats do too.

it can't be played virtually through their smartphones, so participation is down. imagine, for a moment, if they let you take a selfie and post it after every important play. popularity would skyrocket.

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Re: Football
« Reply #94 on: December 01, 2015, 09:46:36 PM »


is football participation down yet in junior high/high school?

My experience says yes. I'm pretty sure the stats do too.

it can't be played virtually through their smartphones, so participation is down. imagine, for a moment, if they let you take a selfie and post it after every important play. popularity would skyrocket.

Kids these days.  Too much focus on developing marketable technology skills and too little on playing games that their disgruntled, disenfranchised, under skilled elders value (which also risk their health). 

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Re: Football
« Reply #95 on: December 01, 2015, 09:59:51 PM »


is football participation down yet in junior high/high school?

My experience says yes. I'm pretty sure the stats do too.

it can't be played virtually through their smartphones, so participation is down. imagine, for a moment, if they let you take a selfie and post it after every important play. popularity would skyrocket.

Kids these days.  Too much focus on developing marketable technology skills and too little on playing games that their disgruntled, disenfranchised, under skilled elders value (which also risk their health).
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Re: Football
« Reply #96 on: December 01, 2015, 10:09:29 PM »
Serious youth sports for really young kids is about the dumbest thing ever invented.
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« Reply #97 on: December 01, 2015, 10:13:05 PM »
As far as head trauma in football is concerned I'm with CNS. There really isn't a whole lot a helmet can do.
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Re: Football
« Reply #98 on: December 01, 2015, 10:55:58 PM »
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/league-of-denial/

I think the movie is mostly a luke of a pbs frontline story done back in 2013.  If you have a couple of hours it's a good watch.  Mike Webster was my idol (I played center in high school) so that part of the program is sad to see how his life ended.  The doctor Will Smith portrays is interviewed extensively in this piece.

My last 3-4 years of youth coaching every player was baseline tested.  We were required to report any suspected head trauma (practice/games) and kids had to retake the test and be cleared to return to contact.  Awareness and attending clinics totally changed my approach to contact, etc.  When I started coaching I was very 'old school' about hitting every practice.  By the time I was done we only hit maybe 1-2 times during the week with the balance of practice focused on form tackling or technique.  Seldom did I see youth players concussed by mario smith type hits.  It was usually heads hitting the ground after losing their balance or secondary blows in scrums.  I would not have a problem with not starting tackle until maybe eighth grade or high school.  Flag football can still have a physical element to it, and technique can taught and reinforced that de emphasizes the use of the head.

My last year in FCCJC I think we had 110-120 teams 3rd-8th grade.  I just looked at last falls standings and there were less than 90 teams. Now there are competing youth leagues, and economy is having some impact.  However, I do think the concern over concussions and alternatives (soccer, lacrosse) are drawing kids away from football.

One of the best known kc area high school coaches told us at a clinic he limited live contact each week to 1 tackling drill and 1 live scrimmage.  I have read where some college coaches do the same.  Even aware of one who live tackle without helmets to reinforce removing the head from the tackling process.  I think coaches at the amateur level are very aware of the concern/risk and are adjusting accordingly.

I have a son who is now playing college football.  He has been concussed twice, once in youth ball (my tackling drill), once in high school (half speed blocking drill).  FWIW, he is 6'5-300 so he wasn't a small kid getting trucked by someone in beast mode.  I do think about this and whether or not he will suffer any effects later in life.

http://www.amazon.com/death-American-game-crisis-football/dp/0316887358/ref=la_B001ITX9YQ_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1449031213&sr=1-7

The Death of an American Game was printed in 1979.  My mom bought me that book to try and discourage me from playing.  IIRC this book argued the equipment was poor and safety rules not sufficient given the number of players being paralyzed or suffering severe joint (knee) injuries along with concussions.  The issue has been around in some form for a long time if not as well publicized as it is now.


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