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$15 an hour
« on: September 10, 2016, 11:34:52 PM »
A small business that I'm a partner in in Wichita was recently filling an entry level position that traditionally turns over about every six months at $10 an hour.  They only have one position like this so I suggested offering $15 and maybe we get a large pool of applicants and land a good long term employee and less headaches in the long run.  They obviously received more applicants, some 45-55 year olds, some 18-25s, overall a nice group probably 15 applied in a week.  They didn't get any minority apps,  the managing partner is black, the business is established with a good reputation.  How can this happen?
Serious question, this is very odd considering the unemployment numbers.


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Re: $15 an hour
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2016, 11:45:07 PM »
They either didn't see it advertised or have a better deal for income  :dunno:
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Re: $15 an hour
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2016, 11:45:31 PM »
I'm wondering why you think you should be getting black applicants in a city that's only 11% black. I'm also wondering why you feel like you need to tell us. Does this confirm your belief that all blacks are lazy, welfare siphoning bums.

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Re: $15 an hour
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2016, 11:55:53 PM »
What kind of better deal could they possibly have, while minorities make up at least 20% of the overall
Population, they probably hold better than 33% of entry level jobs and have a higher unemployment rate so what gives, this opportunity was a pure layup.
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Re: $15 an hour
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2016, 12:12:07 AM »
I think there are some market forces at play here, yes it was one job listed for one week and a small sample size, but zero that's weird.  Access to listings?  Discouraged by previous job-hunt failures? Assistance programs/ combined with off the books income outrun what an entry level job can yield?
Something is amiss.
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Re: $15 an hour
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2016, 12:49:05 AM »
What line of work are you talking about? What industry?

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« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2016, 12:59:52 AM »
If you can hold a job at McDonald's, you could do this job, and it would be easier.
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Re: $15 an hour
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2016, 01:01:49 AM »
This place probably has a racist reputation

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Re: $15 an hour
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2016, 01:08:49 AM »
What line of work are you talking about? What industry?

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Re: $15 an hour
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2016, 08:58:46 AM »
i was at the last meeting and nobody even mentioned it

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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2016, 10:55:41 AM »
i was at the last meeting and nobody even mentioned it

Have you re-read this? Is this representative of your ability. I ignored puni's because obviously this isn't a sausage/pea/cabbage topic, but Tobias you are better than this.......
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Re: $15 an hour
« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2016, 11:12:50 AM »
a basically kansan, genuine almost kstater in the white house.   :excited:
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Re: $15 an hour
« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2016, 12:26:09 PM »
How do you know the race of all the applicants?

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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2016, 01:30:18 PM »
a basically kansan, genuine almost kstater in the white house.   :excited:

goddamnit.  how did this end up here.
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Re: $15 an hour
« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2016, 02:21:36 PM »
sounds like a great start to a great Ny times Tom Friedman column.  probably need a couple quotes from the minority business owner and maybe ask a couple deacons around east Wichita and you could stretch it in to a book deal.

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Re: $15 an hour
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2016, 02:49:15 PM »
How do you know the race of all the applicants?

No apostrophes
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« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2016, 03:01:13 PM »
sounds like a great start to a great Ny times Tom Friedman column.  probably need a couple quotes from the minority business owner and maybe ask a couple deacons around east Wichita and you could stretch it in to a book deal.

How do you know the race of all the applicants?

No apostrophes

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Re: $15 an hour
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2016, 03:49:57 PM »
Got a black applicant today  :excited: , we hired a guy 3 weeks ago but  :excited:
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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2016, 03:52:10 PM »
I feel like I just saw a state record buck.
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Re: $15 an hour
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2016, 05:27:42 PM »
How do you know the race of all the applicants?

Can you answer this question? You're either lying or breaking the law.

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Re: $15 an hour
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2016, 05:29:59 PM »
I feel like I just saw a state record buck.

Yeah, you're lying. You went from someone else doing the hiring to you being there.

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« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2016, 06:03:15 PM »
How do you know the race of all the applicants?

Can you answer this question? You're either lying or breaking the law.

Lol, you are really a weird dude, I guess mich is too, is it beyond your ability to imagine me having a conversation with the person interviewing the applicants who told me what I told you?  Would it also blow your super sleuth mind to know that I occasionally visit this business that I invest in?
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Re: $15 an hour
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2016, 06:07:33 PM »
All applicants were interviewed?
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Re: $15 an hour
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2016, 06:10:26 PM »
All applicants were interviewed?

yeah, or they had to apply in person maybe? What an inefficient use of time.

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Re: $15 an hour
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2016, 06:12:25 PM »
It's not illegal to ask what race an applicant is on an application; the applicant doesn't have to answer and the answers are to only be used for tracking purposes to ensure the hiring process is drawing minority applicants. 

But take the ad down if the position was filled 3 weeks ago.