Who should the new OC be?

[scottwildcat]

https://twitter.com/CoachMichaelSmi/status/938954431911079937

Coleman move to OC and Smith to WR?

Jesus why do people not realize that coordinators still have positional responsibilities.

Smith is a good recruiter.  The interwebs say this is important.

That isn’t my point. Why would you move Coleman off of WRs for Smith while Coleman has built a relationship with this entire WR core just because he’d hypothetically get moved to OC. Why wouldn’t Smith just come in and coach RBs or TEs?

Our WRs dropped an absolute fuckload of passes this year?

then why the eff would you reward him with giving him the OC title if you want to replace him?

[Shooter Jones]

https://twitter.com/CoachMichaelSmi/status/938954431911079937

Coleman move to OC and Smith to WR?

Jesus why do people not realize that coordinators still have positional responsibilities.

Smith is a good recruiter.  The interwebs say this is important.

That isn’t my point. Why would you move Coleman off of WRs for Smith while Coleman has built a relationship with this entire WR core just because he’d hypothetically get moved to OC. Why wouldn’t Smith just come in and coach RBs or TEs?

Our WRs dropped an absolute fuckload of passes this year?

Lol, you don't have to actually coach them to be good WR's, just have a good relationship with them.

[Cire]

I always had the perception that Michael Smith was dead weight on the recruiting side.

[Joker]

I always had the perception that Michael Smith was dead weight on the recruiting side.

This was the narrative during the end of Snyder 1.0

[HELLHAMMER]

When I was a student at The Kansas State University, I was blessed to get a haircut in the chair next to Michael Smith at Campus Barber Shop. After Roger got done, he handed him a $20 (this was a long time ago), said thank you and walked out. His generosity has been an inspiration to me.

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[Cire]

Also I'm completely resigned to Klein calling plays next year in the booth with Coleman directing on the sidelines as he does.

Seiler as DC.  Britz, and who knows who else.

Maybe bring on Eric Gallon to coach rb's.

[MakeItRain]

the fact that nobody has brought up norm chow in minority coaching discussions is racist.

I see you, stunted, but the homie Norm was a head coach, but as like damn near everything else in this country our Asian brothers and sisters are underrepresented.

[ben ji]

Since returning to the sideline in 2009, Snyder hasn’t looked outside the program to hire a single coordinator. When co-defensive coordinator Vic Koenning left after the 2009 season, Chris Cosh was named sole defensive coordinator and K-State hired Keith Burns to coach defensive backs. When Cosh left a few years later, Snyder promoted current defensive coordinator Tom Hayes to take his place and hired Mike Cox to coach linebackers. When Del Miller left in the offseason, Dimel took over as lone offensive coordinator and Snyder hired Collin Klein to coach quarterbacks.

http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article188537744.html

He's also never hired a minority coordinator

 

While this is factually correct the implication isn't fair at all.

It's more of a criticism of college football culture in general than Bill. I mean are there any minority coordinators in the Big 12? (I don't feel like googling the ones I haven't heard of)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_NCAA_Division_I_FBS_football_coaches

I think Bill is at least partially responsible for this culture and deserves some of whatever my implication is. All college head coaches do.

Side note, I just learned former Prince assistant Warren Ruggerio is the offensive coordinator at Wake Forest. Cradle of Coaches.

If we're acknowledging that he only promotes from within there really hasn't been an opportunity for him to do so. He does now so we'll see.

there hasn't really been an opportunity to hire a minority coordinator from within before now? I'm not sure what you're saying here.

What's so hard to figure out? The minority position coaches we've had have been significantly younger and inexperienced in compared to who has held those positions. It's not like we've had musical chairs at the coordinator positions. The only internal minority candidate, before now, who has hung around for an extended period was Michael Smith and he was not coordinator material when he was here.

Ok, just making sure that's what you were getting at.

So yeah I definitely realize that Snyder never having minority position coaches qualified to become coordinators is a big part of why he's never hired a minority coordinator. I also think it's fair to criticize him (and most college head coaches) for not hiring and/or developing more minority position coaches to be ready for coordinator positions.

I agree with this

Mo Latimore has almost been here longer than Snyder.

Mo Latimore is also a huge dick.

[TheTruth]

I always had the perception that Michael Smith was dead weight on the recruiting side.

This was the narrative during the end of Snyder 1.0

Heard this as well. It was pretty bad, from what I heard.

[EMAWmeister]

Go save that Meachum guy in Lawrence from career suicide

[Pete]

the fact that nobody has brought up norm chow in minority coaching discussions is racist.

I see you, stunted, but the homie Norm was a head coach, but as like damn near everything else in this country our Asian brothers and sisters are underrepresented.

Don't forget the Tribe!  Almost zero representation in sports leadership outside of basketball.

[everyone shut up]

Bet Riley kissed a girl before he got married, tho

[star seed 7]

i hope ck and his lovely wife provide us with 11 future wildcat studs

[cfbandyman]

I guess he can will us with the #16goals to wins

[wetwillie]

Klein is definitely not ready but honestly idgaf as long as Snyder is here.

[MakeItRain]

Klein is definitely not ready but honestly idgaf as long as Snyder is here.

How can you possibly know that?

[MakeItRain]

Tom Herman became a FBS OC his fifth year as an assistant coach.
Six years for Matt Campbell
Five years for Lincoln Riley
Six for Scott Frost
Four for Josh Heupel
Three for Willie Taggart
Three for Kliff
Next season will be season five for Klein

[catastrophe]

Go save that Meachum guy in Lawrence from career suicide

This is my vote.

[That_Guy]

Tom Herman became a FBS OC his fifth year as an assistant coach.
Six years for Matt Campbell
Five years for Lincoln Riley
Six for Scott Frost
Four for Josh Heupel
Three for Willie Taggart
Three for Kliff
Next season will be season five for Klein

Well when you put it like that...




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[stunted]

I see you, stunted, but the homie Norm was a head coach, but as like damn near everything else in this country our Asian brothers and sisters are underrepresented.

getting better. kpop!

[ChiComCat]

I like to think of Klein as K-state’s version of Cumbie, Kliff, and Riley but instead of an air raid he is the slow and deliberate KSU Slothfense

[Katpappy]

When I was a student at The Kansas State University, I was blessed to get a haircut in the chair next to Michael Smith at Campus Barber Shop. After Roger got done, he handed him a $20 (this was a long time ago), said thank you and walked out. His generosity has been an inspiration to me.

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HELLHAMMER, you know that Paycheck had a very small dick.  He's prison nickname was peewee.

[That_Guy]

I would hope to think Klein would know how to run the offense with Thompson at QB, but what do I know?


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[Katpappy]

I would hope to think Klein would know how to run the offense with Thompson at QB, but what do I know?


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I would hope CK remembers the pain he went thru with the battering ram offense.  Maybe have Thompson run less and pass more.  Also, have him slide or run of out bounds at the end of his runs. 

[Stevesie60]

Heard we may reach out to Mangino.