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Currie seems to be a horrible choice for AD at UT. Why are you so glad to see him leave? tia :cheers:
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Currie seems to be a horrible choice for AD at UT. Why are you so glad to see him leave? tia :cheers:
you answered your question
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Currie seems to be a horrible choice for AD at UT. Why are you so glad to see him leave? tia :cheers:
Ran off our best basketball coach in a long time.
Ran an over eager compliance department that actively searched for problems.
Was a very annoying PR presence.
Made being a fan feel like a transaction and devoid of any passion.
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Frank Martin and oscar Weber.
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Hahahaha what a series of posts. Glad we are all on the same page.
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Currie seems to be a horrible choice for AD at UT. Why are you so glad to see him leave? tia :cheers:
Ran off our best basketball coach in a long time.
Ran an over eager compliance department that actively searched for problems.
Was a very annoying PR presence.
Made being a fan feel like a transaction and devoid of any passion.
This is all true. To be fair he did a great job with facilities and fundraising which we were about a decade or two behind on when he was hired.
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Thanks for the replies.
Anecdotally, he was not well liked in his first stop in Knoxville. He also learned at the feet of Mike Hamilton, a man partly responsible for tanking our AD. David Blackburn is a local who would have been a slam dunk, and Phil Fulmer made a late run at the job thanks to his donor affiliations. Not many were expecting this.
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He's a good athletic director if you don't care about how good your football or basketball teams are.
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Currie was essentially a plastic surgeon. Made the dept look pretty(ish) but couldn't change how crappy he made it internally
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Thanks for the replies.
Anecdotally, he was not well liked in his first stop in Knoxville. He also learned at the feet of Mike Hamilton, a man partly responsible for tanking our AD. David Blackburn is a local who would have been a slam dunk, and Phil Fulmer made a late run at the job thanks to his donor affiliations. Not many were expecting this.
Can you give a wiki on how Phil is treated? Seemed like a bit of regret with what seemed like an apparent force out (at first), then a run at the AD like he is Barry Alvarez.
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He's a good athletic director if you don't care about how good your football or basketball teams are.
^ That seems to be right in our wheelhouse based on the last 10 years.
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He's a good athletic director if you don't care about how good your football or basketball teams are.
^ That seems to be right in our wheelhouse based on the last 10 years.
Currie will be a really good SLTH for UT.
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http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/story/kansas-state-wildcats-oscar-weber-frank-martin-john-currie-new-hire-spells-big-trouble-040112
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Thanks for the replies.
Anecdotally, he was not well liked in his first stop in Knoxville. He also learned at the feet of Mike Hamilton, a man partly responsible for tanking our AD. David Blackburn is a local who would have been a slam dunk, and Phil Fulmer made a late run at the job thanks to his donor affiliations. Not many were expecting this.
Can you give a wiki on how Phil is treated? Seemed like a bit of regret with what seemed like an apparent force out (at first), then a run at the AD like he is Barry Alvarez.
Phil is a Tennessee guy who's been around the program for 40+ years. He got the job at the expense of Vol legend Johnny Majors. From that point on, there's been a rift in the fanbase between the Fulmer and Majors loyalists. Fulmer stuck around a little too long (imo). We lost to Vandy in 05 and Wyoming in 08. He felt wronged by his firing and probably always will. There are a lot of Vol fans that feel the same way.
To answer your question, I would say the majority like Fulmer while there are many that are still loyal to Majors.
Politically, Fulmer has always been well connected, and it was impressive to see him get his name in the AD contest over the last several weeks. There were donors who wanted Fulmer and donors that wanted Blackburn. Our new chancellor (Beverly Davenport) got to have at least some say in this because the search went on too long. Apparently many donors were blindsided by this hire. It's going to be interesting to see how this goes with Currie.
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You just hired Captain Compliance who has a real career aspiration of being the commish of a conference or a big job at the NCAA.
Good luck, friend.
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You just hired Captain Compliance who has a real career aspiration of being the commish of a conference or a big job at the NCAA.
Good luck, friend.
We just settled a Title IX lawsuit that was hanging over the AD. I've heard that that was part of the decision making process.
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Kinda surprised no one has mentioned his petty attacks on fans/admin staff who he doesn't like.
Big Orange, don't wear a cow mask to any game.
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Currie is unwilling to cheat. In the SEC that means UT will be bottom dwellers for the foreseeable future.
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He'll be good for finances, generally. Don't really have much else to compliment him on. At the right school that has the right needs, he could be the perfect guy. But not a place that doesn't have excellent, squeaky clean coaches in place.
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Kinda surprised no one has mentioned his petty attacks on fans/admin staff who he doesn't like.
Big Orange, don't wear a cow mask to any game.
Would definitely like to hear more details about these ....
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He was p smug
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If there is even a sniff of something not up and up John Currie will fix it.
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Currie is unwilling to cheat. In the SEC that means UT will be bottom dwellers for the foreseeable future.
That's correct if he's like that. We've been on the receiving end of sanctions twice now. Once with B. Pearl (because of our legal incompetence) and then with Donnie Tyndall (although his show cause was for stuff at So. Miss). Seems like that will make Currie even more gun shy.
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Currie is unwilling to cheat. In the SEC that means UT will be bottom dwellers for the foreseeable future.
Stupid. Cheating is for average coaches.
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he pulled off TF out of his white seersucker
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Kinda surprised no one has mentioned his petty attacks on fans/admin staff who he doesn't like.
Big Orange, don't wear a cow mask to any game.
Would definitely like to hear more details about these ....
I'm happy that he's mooooooooooving on.
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Thanks for the replies.
Anecdotally, he was not well liked in his first stop in Knoxville. He also learned at the feet of Mike Hamilton, a man partly responsible for tanking our AD. David Blackburn is a local who would have been a slam dunk, and Phil Fulmer made a late run at the job thanks to his donor affiliations. Not many were expecting this.
he wasn't well liked here either but my man pissclams will assure you he wasn't liked both here and at UT the first time around because of inexperience and now he is experienced so I'm sure everyone will absolutely love this completely likeable irl individual. have fun.
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Live track how many Vol accounts he bans on twitter
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he wasn't well liked here either but my man pissclams will assure you he wasn't liked both here and at UT the first time around because of inexperience and now he is experienced so I'm sure everyone will absolutely love this completely likeable irl individual. have fun.
lol. So what's with cow story? moo?
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He's a good athletic director if you don't care about how good your football or basketball teams are.
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except that we won a shitload of football while he was here including our b12 champy troph
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He's a good athletic director if you don't care about how good your football or basketball teams are.
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except that we won a shitload of football while he was here including our b12 champy troph
Also won a basketball title
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Thanks for the replies.
Anecdotally, he was not well liked in his first stop in Knoxville. He also learned at the feet of Mike Hamilton, a man partly responsible for tanking our AD. David Blackburn is a local who would have been a slam dunk, and Phil Fulmer made a late run at the job thanks to his donor affiliations. Not many were expecting this.
he wasn't well liked here either but my man pissclams will assure you he wasn't liked both here and at UT the first time around because of inexperience and now he is experienced so I'm sure everyone will absolutely love this completely likeable irl individual. have fun.
i don't have to like someone to work with them or to acknowledge that they're being successful at their job
i never gave a crap about liking john currie, how i feel about him is inconsequential
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Thanks for the replies.
Anecdotally, he was not well liked in his first stop in Knoxville. He also learned at the feet of Mike Hamilton, a man partly responsible for tanking our AD. David Blackburn is a local who would have been a slam dunk, and Phil Fulmer made a late run at the job thanks to his donor affiliations. Not many were expecting this.
he wasn't well liked here either but my man pissclams will assure you he wasn't liked both here and at UT the first time around because of inexperience and now he is experienced so I'm sure everyone will absolutely love this completely likeable irl individual. have fun.
i don't have to like someone to work with them or to acknowledge that they're being successful at their job
i never gave a crap about liking john currie, how i feel about him is inconsequential
It's important to me to like them because I am a fan and I do this for entertainment.
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He's a good athletic director if you don't care about how good your football or basketball teams are.
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except that we won a shitload of football while he was here including our b12 champy troph
Also won a basketball title
And baseball.
2 of those 3 coaches he had nothing to do with and the one he did has burned down the program.
But yeah, titletown was very fun.
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i don't have to like someone to work with them or to acknowledge that they're being successful at their job
i never gave a crap about liking john currie, how i feel about him is inconsequential
At Tennessee, an example of that was Doug Dickey (who coached here and then came back as AD). An ass to be sure, but we didn't have any trouble with the NCAA while he was here.
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Tennessee, get ready for your coaches to hate their AD, and for prospective new coaches to be apprehensive.
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congrats volguy, I am happy for your program in landing BIG John (<- this is what we call him)
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He's a good athletic director if you don't care about how good your football or basketball teams are.
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except that we won a shitload of football while he was here including our b12 champy troph
I guess if Tennessee has a good coach for either sport who is a university hero and doesn't really have to listen to Currie, then that sport is probably good to go.
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He's a good athletic director if you don't care about how good your football or basketball teams are.
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except that we won a shitload of football while he was here including our b12 champy troph
I guess if Tennessee has a good coach for either sport who is a university hero and doesn't really have to listen to Currie, then that sport is probably good to go.
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Did I read somewhere that KSU had to hire a go between in order for Snyder and Currie to communicate? They basically didn't talk to each other.
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Hahaha oh man if that's true
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Probably not accurate about the intermediary, but probably accurate that Snyder doesn't acnowledge anything Currie says.
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I thought it was agree that is why Kill was here?
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He's a good athletic director if you don't care about how good your football or basketball teams are.
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except that we won a shitload of football while he was here including our b12 champy troph
I guess if Tennessee has a good coach for either sport who is a university hero and doesn't really have to listen to Currie, then that sport is probably good to go.
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Did I read somewhere that KSU had to hire a go between in order for Snyder and Currie to communicate? They basically didn't talk to each other.
currie and Snyder didn't even talk at church and currie is the reason that frank martin left kstate for usc.
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He's a good athletic director if you don't care about how good your football or basketball teams are.
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except that we won a shitload of football while he was here including our b12 champy troph
I guess if Tennessee has a good coach for either sport who is a university hero and doesn't really have to listen to Currie, then that sport is probably good to go.
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Did I read somewhere that KSU had to hire a go between in order for Snyder and Currie to communicate? They basically didn't talk to each other.
There are many people who claim to be in the know, who claim that this is true. I have zero personal first hand knowledge tho.
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Kinda surprised no one has mentioned his petty attacks on fans/admin staff who he doesn't like.
Big Orange, don't wear a cow mask to any game.
Would definitely like to hear more details about these ....
I'm happy that he's mooooooooooving on.
Surprised Trim didn't want to relive this glory.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=38925.0
CN: Cheap tickets. Some here call OSU the Cows. Some here buy tickets and cow masks for people to attend the game to feign support for our emaw hero Brad Underwood and current coach of the "cows." Suddenly there is security bird dogging students who wear cow masks at the game.
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currie and Snyder didn't even talk at church and currie is the reason that frank martin left kstate for usc.
wow :runaway:
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hey big orange, do you guys have fundraising events in the summer? if so, could you go and take pictures of Currie wearing bib overalls, or whatever your fans wear, and post here please.
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hey big orange, do you guys have fundraising events in the summer? if so, could you go and take pictures of Currie wearing bib overalls, or whatever your fans wear, and post here please.
We do. The Big Orange caravan makes several stops around Tennessee and in Atlanta.
If some schadenfreude is what you're looking for (that's about all we live for here now), our football coach does not like having others meddle in his affairs. He doesn't take criticism well. I assume he and Currie will butt heads frequently. Apparently, Rick Barnes is not happy about this development either. Should be entertaining.
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or anything like this
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or anything like this
(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sN16kv2kkIM/mqdefault.jpg)
Here's legendary football coach Derek Dooley micromanaging
(http://media.al.com/sports_impact/photo/derek-dooley-ut-facilities-1ac987322db6db5e.jpg)
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that guy looks like Currie's brother.
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Heh. I forgot about Dooley. I was very upset with him during summer 2010 for something to do with Bryce Brown.
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Probably not accurate about the intermediary, but probably accurate that Snyder doesn't acnowledge anything Currie says.
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it's absolutely accurate about the intermediary
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Thanks for the replies.
Anecdotally, he was not well liked in his first stop in Knoxville. He also learned at the feet of Mike Hamilton, a man partly responsible for tanking our AD. David Blackburn is a local who would have been a slam dunk, and Phil Fulmer made a late run at the job thanks to his donor affiliations. Not many were expecting this.
he wasn't well liked here either but my man pissclams will assure you he wasn't liked both here and at UT the first time around because of inexperience and now he is experienced so I'm sure everyone will absolutely love this completely likeable irl individual. have fun.
i don't have to like someone to work with them or to acknowledge that they're being successful at their job
i never gave a crap about liking john currie, how i feel about him is inconsequential
It's important to me to like them because I am a fan and I do this for entertainment.
it's important to me to like our coaches and that they're successful
i suppose it'd be ok to like an administrator too but really i don't care about that. if he hires good coaches and runs a successful athletics department i could give two shits what kind of boots he wears to a nut fry.
to each their own
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Thanks for the replies.
Anecdotally, he was not well liked in his first stop in Knoxville. He also learned at the feet of Mike Hamilton, a man partly responsible for tanking our AD. David Blackburn is a local who would have been a slam dunk, and Phil Fulmer made a late run at the job thanks to his donor affiliations. Not many were expecting this.
he wasn't well liked here either but my man pissclams will assure you he wasn't liked both here and at UT the first time around because of inexperience and now he is experienced so I'm sure everyone will absolutely love this completely likeable irl individual. have fun.
i don't have to like someone to work with them or to acknowledge that they're being successful at their job
i never gave a crap about liking john currie, how i feel about him is inconsequential
It's important to me to like them because I am a fan and I do this for entertainment.
it's important to me to like our coaches and that they're successful
i suppose it'd be ok to like an administrator too but really i don't care about that. if he hires good coaches and runs a successful athletics department i could give two shits what kind of boots he wears to a nut fry.
to each their own
I agree with this, but the thing is, he ran off Frank (who had plenty of success here) and hired oscar, so stupid boots notwithstanding, he kind of crap the bed.
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Probably not accurate about the intermediary, but probably accurate that Snyder doesn't acnowledge anything Currie says.
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it's absolutely accurate about the intermediary
Well, that is fun to know. Do you think the intermediary actually tells Snyder what Currie says? I bet he just tells Bill that "John says hello."
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Thanks for the replies.
Anecdotally, he was not well liked in his first stop in Knoxville. He also learned at the feet of Mike Hamilton, a man partly responsible for tanking our AD. David Blackburn is a local who would have been a slam dunk, and Phil Fulmer made a late run at the job thanks to his donor affiliations. Not many were expecting this.
he wasn't well liked here either but my man pissclams will assure you he wasn't liked both here and at UT the first time around because of inexperience and now he is experienced so I'm sure everyone will absolutely love this completely likeable irl individual. have fun.
i don't have to like someone to work with them or to acknowledge that they're being successful at their job
i never gave a crap about liking john currie, how i feel about him is inconsequential
It's important to me to like them because I am a fan and I do this for entertainment.
it's important to me to like our coaches and that they're successful
i suppose it'd be ok to like an administrator too but really i don't care about that. if he hires good coaches and runs a successful athletics department i could give two shits what kind of boots he wears to a nut fry.
to each their own
i don't care if i like the AD. i don't care if i like our coaches. i do care if our good coaches like our AD though. if they don't then it makes it harder to keep them and harder to hire replacements when they leave because word gets around in coaching circles.
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I'm not sure if it has anything to do with liking each other, but there has to be some sort of respect. It seems that neither Bill or Frank had any respect for Currie. That's a problem. Most people realize admin gonna admin, but it reaches a point where their is a disconnect and it seems clear Currie had that happen with 2 coaches. Then the guy he hired to replace one of them may have had all the respect for him in the world, but he burned down the program. I understand the issues people have with this completely.
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black boots are to Currie what the play hard chart is to oscar
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I'm not sure if it has anything to do with liking each other, but there has to be some sort of respect. It seems that neither Bill or Frank had any respect for Currie. That's a problem. Most people realize admin gonna admin, but it reaches a point where their is a disconnect and it seems clear Currie had that happen with 2 coaches. Then the guy he hired to replace one of them may have had all the respect for him in the world, but he burned down the program. I understand the issues people have with this completely.
That's what we (UT) had with Doug Dickey during the 80s and 90s. As far as I know, Johnny Majors and Phil Fulmer had the latitude to do what they wanted with the program. Dickey kept the NCAA out of Knoxville and had us in good standing as far as bowls, etc. goes.
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black boots are to Currie what the play hard chart is to oscar
hopefully the photog reposts his work but I recall the jeans as the biggest faux pas
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black boots are to Currie what the play hard chart is to oscar
hopefully the photog reposts his work but I recall the jeans as the biggest faux pas
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Look at that viaka in the back!
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Thanks for the replies.
Anecdotally, he was not well liked in his first stop in Knoxville. He also learned at the feet of Mike Hamilton, a man partly responsible for tanking our AD. David Blackburn is a local who would have been a slam dunk, and Phil Fulmer made a late run at the job thanks to his donor affiliations. Not many were expecting this.
he wasn't well liked here either but my man pissclams will assure you he wasn't liked both here and at UT the first time around because of inexperience and now he is experienced so I'm sure everyone will absolutely love this completely likeable irl individual. have fun.
i don't have to like someone to work with them or to acknowledge that they're being successful at their job
i never gave a crap about liking john currie, how i feel about him is inconsequential
It's important to me to like them because I am a fan and I do this for entertainment.
it's important to me to like our coaches and that they're successful
i suppose it'd be ok to like an administrator too but really i don't care about that. if he hires good coaches and runs a successful athletics department i could give two shits what kind of boots he wears to a nut fry.
to each their own
i don't care if i like the AD. i don't care if i like our coaches. i do care if our good coaches like our AD though. if they don't then it makes it harder to keep them and harder to hire replacements when they leave because word gets around in coaching circles.
agreed but then again, it's not like snyder nor martin are the most agreeable coaches in their profession. probably leaning heavily towards the opposite of that, actually.
i'm hoping we hire an AD who is universally loved by fans as well as the coaches that work for him/her and that we win a ton of champy trophs under his/her reign. unfortunately, i'm a realist and have been following k-state for long enough to know that isn't going to happen. but we can dream.
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Are there many female ADs?
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I've never heard of Canadian Hunter. Is it a garden city market exclusive rebadge of Black Velvet?
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I didn't get to the CH myself.
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Heh. I forgot about Dooley. I was very upset with him during summer 2010 for something to do with Bryce Brown.
Non release
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I hate sounding like I am trashing Snyder but GMAB with acting like not getting along with Snyder is some mark against Currie. Snyder got to do whatever the he'll he wanted for two decades, some times to the detriment to the program and the department. Currie forced Snyder to schedule better, advance the facilities, and to become slightly more media friendly. Snyder has spoken publicly about his resistance to these things. How can any of you be critical of Currie because of his relationship with Snyder? That literally makes no sense at all.
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Bill hates him, so...
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Currie did many good things. But he was still a hyper control freak weird dude who was not relatable.
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Currie did many good things. But he was still a hyper control freak weird dude who was not relatable.
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Yep.
Just like Bill.
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keep the talent happy tho
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What's the story with "moo"? Preview of coming attractions in Knoxville?
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How has nobody mentioned how unequivocably socially inept the Currdog is?!?
Oh, wait, Trim posted photographic evidence.
:buh-bye:
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Currie did many good things. But he was still a hyper control freak weird dude who was not relatable.
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Yep.
Just like Bill.
These are qualities I can see as potentially helpful, or at least tolerable, in a football coach. In an AD, not so much.
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good point, who in their right mind would want someone who is control freak in charge of a business that employs hundreds and generates tens of millions of dollars
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I don't think anyone is making that point, and no doubt John was great at that.
However, some semblance of people skills and being relatable seems important to me.
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good point, who in their right mind would want someone who is control freak in charge of a business that employs hundreds and generates tens of millions of dollars
That's fine if he wants to run a tight ship and is obsessive over it on the parts of the athletic department that are not sports programs. His meddling in individual programs is what makes him a hyper control freak and creates tension between himself and successful coaches. He doesn't know where to stop. I don't see that as a desirable trait in an athletic director.
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I don't think anyone is making that point, and no doubt John was great at that.
However, some semblance of people skills and being relatable seems important to me.
Not choosing sides and I never met the man. Did he not need people skills to get all that money?
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Nevermind. I thought more about that. Silly question.
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I don't think anyone is making that point, and no doubt John was great at that.
However, some semblance of people skills and being relatable seems important to me.
Could you all share some specifics of his shortcomings in relating to coaches and fans
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What's the story with "moo"? Preview of coming attractions in Knoxville?
We were playing against the Oklahoma State University Cows.
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I don't think anyone is making that point, and no doubt John was great at that.
However, some semblance of people skills and being relatable seems important to me.
Could you all share some specifics of his shortcomings in relating to coaches and fans
apparently two of the more hard to get along with coaches in their respective sports didn't get along with john currie (this is based upon second hand information). see the note about bill and john not saying hi to each other at church, for example.
as far as getting along with fans goes, people here hate him because frank martin left k-state, but 99% of our fan base hasn't thought twice about whether or not john currie is personable and don't care anything about the subject. he was so unpersonable that they continued to throw money at him and the department
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he found a mystery receipt for a small cash transfer from a friend to one of our best players and suspended him in the hours before a sweet 16 game. That's a real thing that actually happened
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he found a mystery receipt for a small cash transfer from a friend to one of our best players and suspended him in the hours before a sweet 16 game. That's a real thing that actually happened
Second round
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he found a mystery receipt for a small cash transfer from a friend to one of our best players and suspended him in the hours before a sweet 16 game. That's a real thing that actually happened
Things like this. And these are the types of things that caused the disconnect with coaches.
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I don't think anyone is making that point, and no doubt John was great at that.
However, some semblance of people skills and being relatable seems important to me.
Could you all share some specifics of his shortcomings in relating to coaches and fans
Here... I'll give you a good example.
I met the man no less than 12-15 times at athletic alumni events where he introduced himself as if he'd never met me. While admittedly I'm not always the absolute best at remembering names, 99% of the time I can (like most people) remember if I've met someone in a relatively small, exclusive, social gathering.
EVERY time, save for the very last this December in Houston, he would introduce himself as if he'd never met or laid eyes on me before. While I had no real need for him to remember my name, the very least he could have done was act like he at least recognized me or remembered having met me at least once or twice before over the course of 10-12 occurrences.
I've spoken with others as well who've had the exact same experience and a good friend of mine that many would consider a "big cigar" uses the term "socially inept" when describing your wonderful new AD.
:buh-bye:
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I don't think anyone is making that point, and no doubt John was great at that.
However, some semblance of people skills and being relatable seems important to me.
Could you all share some specifics of his shortcomings in relating to coaches and fans
have you seen the office? do you know who Gabe is? Basically Currie is Gabe from the office.
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he found a mystery receipt for a small cash transfer from a friend to one of our best players and suspended him in the hours before a sweet 16 game. That's a real thing that actually happened
Second round
it would have been the player's final game of his (5th year) senior season, too
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One of the earlier stories was Tyler Locketts's recruitment. John tied the assistant coaches phones to a call tracking software to cross check against call limits. His software highlighted Michael Smith calling Tyler Lockett. Michael Smith was a teammate of Kevin Lockett and was Tyler's godfather, which is well within the realms of a pre-existing relationship allowing extra contact. John took a super conservative stance and self reported. He then even went more super-conservative on the self-implied sanctions against Michael via recruiting restrictions.
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Currie did many good things. But he was still a hyper control freak weird dude who was not relatable.
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Yep.
Just like Bill.
Okay.
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I've spoken with others as well who've had the exact same experience and a good friend of mine that many would consider a "big cigar" uses the term "socially inept" when describing your wonderful new AD.
:buh-bye:
He apparently was not well liked in the UT AD when he was here. Sounds like it's going to be a three ring circus for years to come. :bang::cheers:
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One of the earlier stories was Tyler Locketts's recruitment. John tied the assistant coaches phones to a call tracking software to cross check against call limits. His software highlighted Michael Smith calling Tyler Lockett. Michael Smith was a teammate of Kevin Lockett and was Tyler's godfather, which is well within the realms of a pre-existing relationship allowing extra contact. John took a super conservative stance and self reported. He then even went more super-conservative on the self-implied sanctions against Michael via recruiting restrictions.
This worries me the most. Vol fans were squeamish when Kiffin played around in the gray area of NCAA rules. That tendency along with Currie's paranoia about violations is not a good recipe for recruiting in the SEC.
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his wife is super hot and smokes cigarettes if you know what I mean
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One of the earlier stories was Tyler Locketts's recruitment. John tied the assistant coaches phones to a call tracking software to cross check against call limits. His software highlighted Michael Smith calling Tyler Lockett. Michael Smith was a teammate of Kevin Lockett and was Tyler's godfather, which is well within the realms of a pre-existing relationship allowing extra contact. John took a super conservative stance and self reported. He then even went more super-conservative on the self-implied sanctions against Michael via recruiting restrictions.
This worries me the most. Vol fans were squeamish when Kiffin played around in the gray area of NCAA rules. That tendency along with Currie's paranoia about violations is not a good recipe for recruiting in the SEC.
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I don't normally listen to the GPC podcast, but I did last night. Fitz made the point that if Currie has something against you, he will basically make up a rule to prevent you from doing certain things. He pointed out that GPC used to be a pregame sponsor for football with a segment and that Fitz used to be the color commentator back up for basketball. A couple of years ago, Currie came to him with a rule that said because of his status as a media member and being part of rivals, he was not able to work for athletics any longer or be a sponsor. However, Fitz then pointed out many rivals colleagues that work for athletics at their institutions, including a guy at Texas Tech and the guy at Tennessee.
Granted, I get that some of that is Fitz being ticked at Currie, but when he pointed out others that do the exact same thing with no problems that Currie made up rules to prevent him from doing, he made his point IMO.
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Sounds like it's going to be a three ring circus for years to come. :bang::cheers:
Provide #coverage here. None of us will be signing up to a tennessee bbs.
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I don't normally listen to the GPC podcast, but I did last night. Fitz made the point that if Currie has something against you, he will basically make up a rule to prevent you from doing certain things. He pointed out that GPC used to be a pregame sponsor for football with a segment and that Fitz used to be the color commentator back up for basketball. A couple of years ago, Currie came to him with a rule that said because of his status as a media member and being part of rivals, he was not able to work for athletics any longer or be a sponsor. However, Fitz then pointed out many rivals colleagues that work for athletics at their institutions, including a guy at Texas Tech and the guy at Tennessee.
Granted, I get that some of that is Fitz being ticked at Currie, but when he pointed out others that do the exact same thing with no problems that Currie made up rules to prevent him from doing, he made his point IMO.
I lol'd at all that and it almost made me want us to counteroffer Currie and have him stay.
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good point, who in their right mind would want someone who is control freak in charge of a business that employs hundreds and generates tens of millions of dollars
That's fine if he wants to run a tight ship and is obsessive over it on the parts of the athletic department that are not sports programs. His meddling in individual programs is what makes him a hyper control freak and creates tension between himself and successful coaches. He doesn't know where to stop. I don't see that as a desirable trait in an athletic director.
not to mention when he went after the Collegian for "The Death of the Family" article........extremely thin skin, that guy
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He just did weird crap that I know shouldn't bother me, but it did. He did stuff like make a progres walk through video of our new basketball training facility while it was being constructed. During it he said "this is our men's head coach's office". Any normal person would say "This will be Frank's office". In the summer ESPN did one of those throw away "best of in the conference" series where they give the conference bloggers "name this' questions. In those they always pass around the love become they can't just answer "Oklahoma" or "Texas" on everything. So one of their bloggers said KSU for the Big12 pregame. Another online, random click-bait article named Manhattan " America's #1 college town". He put those two awards on a giant banner and hung it on the side of the stadium. Stuff like that just showed me he was out of touch with reality and had no perspective.
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Sometimes, you just know.
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I don't normally listen to the GPC podcast, but I did last night. Fitz made the point that if Currie has something against you, he will basically make up a rule to prevent you from doing certain things. He pointed out that GPC used to be a pregame sponsor for football with a segment and that Fitz used to be the color commentator back up for basketball. A couple of years ago, Currie came to him with a rule that said because of his status as a media member and being part of rivals, he was not able to work for athletics any longer or be a sponsor. However, Fitz then pointed out many rivals colleagues that work for athletics at their institutions, including a guy at Texas Tech and the guy at Tennessee.
Granted, I get that some of that is Fitz being ticked at Currie, but when he pointed out others that do the exact same thing with no problems that Currie made up rules to prevent him from doing, he made his point IMO.
Normally I'd say this is tin-foil hat thinking, but my first thought when reading this is John knew about Fitz' rep on Twitter and didn't want that associated with KSU in case Fitz got drunk and tweeted something super creepy. John doesn't need the risk of that guy being financially tied to KSU. Which like or hate Fitz, is ridiculous.
I don't know if it's been said in this thread, but John once told a reporter "I am risk management". I think he takes that thinking into compliance, which is where it could hurt you on the field. With John there is no "I go 4 over the speed limit, if it accidentally go up to 8 over, I'll pay the ticket and move on" mentality.
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he found a mystery receipt for a small cash transfer from a friend to one of our best players and suspended him in the hours before a sweet 16 game. That's a real thing that actually happened
Second round
to go to the S16 was what I meant. Does that make a difference?
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he found a mystery receipt for a small cash transfer from a friend to one of our best players and suspended him in the hours before a sweet 16 game. That's a real thing that actually happened
Second round
it would have been the player's final game of his (5th year) senior season, too
Yeah. I hated him for that. Also Frank left immediately after that season.
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the fitz/holly rowe stuff legit hurt him which it should have. as an adult with the role that he had, typing what he did was a huge mistake and as an adult he had to pay for it.
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I'm 80% sure this is true so...
currie told jamsam he was out before he told the coaching staff. currie then went to the room frank was in to tell him and frank lunged at him and had to be held back. frank said that if it was going to happen that he needed to be the one to tell jamar and was over the top irate that currie usurped him in that. frank then told everybody that would listen that he was done at kstate and then told his agent to get him out.
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I'm 80% sure this is true so...
currie told jamsam he was out before he told the coaching staff. currie then went to the room frank was in to tell him and frank lunged at him and had to be held back. frank said that if it was going to happen that he needed to be the one to tell jamar and was over the top irate that currie usurped him in that. frank then told everybody that would listen that he was done at kstate and then told his agent to get him out.
Um-hmm
The conversation should have gone like this:
Currie: Coach, tell Jamar to be more discrete about getting money from life time friends.
Frank: Will do
Currie: Go Cats
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Yowza.
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the fitz/holly rowe stuff legit hurt him which it should have. as an adult with the role that he had, typing what he did was a huge mistake and as an adult he had to pay for it.
that was part of it.
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the fitz/holly rowe stuff legit hurt him which it should have. as an adult with the role that he had, typing what he did was a huge mistake and as an adult he had to pay for it.
Maybe he apologized to her in person but he never did publicly, just gross.
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yeah Currie invented that reason so he didn't have to say "you are super creepy towards minors and young girls"
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the fitz/holly rowe stuff legit hurt him which it should have. as an adult with the role that he had, typing what he did was a huge mistake and as an adult he had to pay for it.
Maybe he apologized to her in person but he never did publicly, just gross.
remind me of this, I don't remember it
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the fitz/holly rowe stuff legit hurt him which it should have. as an adult with the role that he had, typing what he did was a huge mistake and as an adult he had to pay for it.
Maybe he apologized to her in person but he never did publicly, just gross.
True, that was a really bad look.
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the fitz/holly rowe stuff legit hurt him which it should have. as an adult with the role that he had, typing what he did was a huge mistake and as an adult he had to pay for it.
that was part of it.
I still feel a bit uneasy about snitching on him for that because, snitches you know. However, Fitz is a legit bad person and if I have to step out of my values to hurt a bad person, I'll just have to live with it.
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the fitz/holly rowe stuff legit hurt him which it should have. as an adult with the role that he had, typing what he did was a huge mistake and as an adult he had to pay for it.
Maybe he apologized to her in person but he never did publicly, just gross.
remind me of this, I don't remember it
The tweets are gone but he essentially called her fat and gross on twitter, subtweeted her if course. When she came back later that season I @ed her the tweets and she went to Currie and ESPN with the tweets.
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he found a mystery receipt for a small cash transfer from a friend to one of our best players and suspended him in the hours before a sweet 16 game. That's a real thing that actually happened
Second round
to go to the S16 was what I meant. Does that make a difference?
It wasn't a correction that needed to be made, my apologies.
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the fitz/holly rowe stuff legit hurt him which it should have. as an adult with the role that he had, typing what he did was a huge mistake and as an adult he had to pay for it.
Maybe he apologized to her in person but he never did publicly, just gross.
remind me of this, I don't remember it
The tweets are gone but he essentially called her fat and gross on twitter, subtweeted her if course. When she came back later that season I @ed her the tweets and she went to Currie and ESPN with the tweets.
oh yeah.. Now I remember.. that was awful
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He hated EMAW right?
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I think he did a good job of leveraging fear (of being left out in a conference realignment scenario) to get money to drastically improve facilities. Fear is probably the easiest thing in the world to sell, tho. But kudos to him for taking advantage.
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the fitz/holly rowe stuff legit hurt him which it should have. as an adult with the role that he had, typing what he did was a huge mistake and as an adult he had to pay for it.
Maybe he apologized to her in person but he never did publicly, just gross.
remind me of this, I don't remember it
The tweets are gone but he essentially called her fat and gross on twitter, subtweeted her if course. When she came back later that season I @ed her the tweets and she went to Currie and ESPN with the tweets.
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=3732.msg717784#msg717784
The tweets were worse than I remembered them being. Just terrible, really.
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I forgot how bad those were too. Man.
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He hated EMAW right?
my memory is the removing/distancing of EMAW came from University President Schulz (and maybe more specifically Mrs. Schulz)
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MIR was before the AtSignal's time.
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Good Lord. Coming from someone who makes a living via a public/online presence, you would think he'd understand the impact of putting something like that on Twitter.
If you're going to be an bad person, at least be a smart bad person and hur hur it up with your buddies in a private setting.
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He hated EMAW right?
The belief, yes. Schultz hated the acronym. Moreso, Mrs. Schultz hated the acronym.
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she went to Currie and ESPN with the tweets.
i don't remember hearing about this part...?
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Recalling those tweets, it makes sense as to why Currie "found rules" to get Fitz out. But my next thought is why not just directly call him on it and say you won't be working for us anymore? Or maybe he did?
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Recalling those tweets, it makes sense as to why Currie "found rules" to get Fitz out. But my next thought is why not just directly call him on it and say you won't be working for us anymore? Or maybe he did?
My thoughts are somewhere in the middle. Fitz probably knew/knows why. He even said "when John doesn't like you." He knew why John didn't like him. That's why we really didn't hear about it until after Currie left.
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Yeah, that sounds right.
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she went to Currie and ESPN with the tweets.
i don't remember hearing about this part...?
You didn't. A+++ source though. I don't know if Fitz knows she reported him but I don't know how he didn't know. So his going around acting like he doesn't know why Currie slapped him on the wrist is complete BS. He didn't get pulled from working for K-State until the next season so maybe that's why he's "confused."
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Recalling those tweets, it makes sense as to why Currie "found rules" to get Fitz out. But my next thought is why not just directly call him on it and say you won't be working for us anymore? Or maybe he did?
Maybe he just told Fitz to eff off so Fitz made up the "rules" story to seem like the victim.
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It doesn't behoove Fitz to say "Currie doesn't like me because I'm a perverted low-character creep."
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Sean Snyder is certainly partying his ass off today
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the answer is yes, that is Sean's gigantic ass truck parked in a handicap space in front of Vanier today, diagonally, with some mopeds (maybe a motorcycle?) thrown in there for fun.
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You deserve this sean
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If you squint real hard you can see the wheel chair he crushed pulling into that spot
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I bet he hung the purple nuts back on that dually
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my goodness look at all those gigantic trucks
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great scoop as always 'blast
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Don't let handicapped drifters get established in your town. :cyclist:
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How many head of cattle does Sean have?
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Maybe that's the horse haulin' dually to equestrian events
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the answer is yes, that is Sean's gigantic ass truck parked in a handicap space in front of Vanier today, diagonally, with some mopeds (maybe a motorcycle?) thrown in there for fun.
It's even better if you imagine him sprinting out of the truck and high stepping at full speed into the Vanier lobby. Goodness.
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http://gridironnow.com/inside-story-tennessee-hiring-john-currie/
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http://gridironnow.com/inside-story-tennessee-hiring-john-currie/
* Not all members of the search committee were aware that Currie was instrumental in having Fulmer fired in 2008 and didn’t know Currie and Fulmer have a strained relationship.
* Currie reached out to Fulmer through a phone message but Fulmer has not yet responded.
* One reason Fulmer pushed for the AD job is he didn’t want Currie to get it.
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looks like the president only wanted someone with previous p5 AD experience. hahahahahaha.
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That's great.
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We should hire Fulmer now.
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I don't think anyone is making that point, and no doubt John was great at that.
However, some semblance of people skills and being relatable seems important to me.
Could you all share some specifics of his shortcomings in relating to coaches and fans
have you seen the office? do you know who Gabe is? Basically Currie is Gabe from the office.
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Hahaha so true
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http://gridironnow.com/inside-story-tennessee-hiring-john-currie/
That lazy writer said Bill hated John for the Auburn game...a home game John didn't schedule, which was a return game for an away game neither John nor Bill had any part of.
If he said Bill was mad about Stanford, sure, but that lazy writer just remembered we played Auburn and assumed that was one of the top two reasons Bill hated John and wrote it down.
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looks like the president only wanted someone with previous p5 AD experience. hahahahahaha.
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looks like the president only wanted someone with previous p5 AD experience. hahahahahaha.
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:lol: I missed that.
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If you have to urge your fans to "give him a chance," you might have mumped up.
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If you have to urge your fans to "give him a chance," you might have mumped up.
For having known about Dave Hart's retirement since August, that 'give him a chance' statement is a major indictment of our administrative incompetence.
So you say y'all might be interested in Fulmer .... have we got a deal for you
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If you have to urge your fans to "give him a chance," you might have mumped up.
For having known about Dave Hart's retirement since August (former AD), that 'give him a chance' statement is a major indictment of our administrative incompetence.
So you say y'all might be interested in Fulmer .... have we got a deal for you
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Have you tennessee people even broken a sink yet?
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Have you tennessee people even broken a sink yet?
In frustration? Nah, we usually burn mattresses when pushed over the edge
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZdVqVI7ONs[/youtube]
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All I know is that Fulmer shouldn't have his national title.
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All I know is that Fulmer shouldn't have his national title.
Agree, T Martini was a poor mans Michael Bishop.
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All I know is that Fulmer shouldn't have his national title.
Always a favorite message board question. Would you rather have lost the 98 NC so that Fulmer would have been fired earlier? Fulmer's lame duck years started the dominoes that have fallen the last 10 years for us.
I was still in school and remember watching the BCS ratings toward the end of the 98 season. I remember UCLA and KSU stumbling (had to look up the details), enabling UT to go ahead in the BCS rankings. UT very nearly lost to Arkansas (Clint Stoerner fumble) and also to Miss St in the SEC championship game. We got a lot of good bounces that year.
It is ironic that Tee won the NC and not Peyton. Fulmer had the good fortune of getting Manning in 94, having a great sidekick in David Cutcliffe (OC), and having Rodney Garner as a recruiter. Without those pieces, Fulmer would have been just another coach.
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We messed up Bill's best chance at a NC so bad that year. Still hurts.
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My thoughts on John Currie:
His Supporters usually point to facility upgrades, fundraising and financial improvements as proof that he is a good AD.
I would point out that while the K-State Athletic Department had issues before John arrived, the Athletic Department had very little debt, had Coach Snyder and Frank Martin.
With the growth in Conference TV revenue we quickly improved the budget and added a bunch of debt to build our Football Stadium upgrades. We had Football, Baseball and Basketball all win Conference Titles in the same year and that helped spur donor support.
I have heard that the Coaches and Currie were not getting along for years. For a while I was neutral on who was to blame but after seeing Currie handle other more public issues, I believe Currie is to blame.
Those other issues include:
1. Starship Enterprise incident, where Currie suspended our Band Director from going to Lawrence because some fans have a dirty mind.
http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/09/kansas-state-apologizes-suspends-directer-of-bands-offensive-nsfw-halftime-show
2. The Jamar Samuels western union suspension. (As described in previous posts).
3. The hiring of oscar Weber
4. Not firing oscar Weber/ hiring Brad Underwood last year.
5. The Leti Romero incident.
http://www.bringonthecats.com/2014/4/18/5629044/k-state-wbb-leti-romeros-transfer-appeal-denied
He handles issues poorly.
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apparently two of the more hard to get along with coaches in their respective sports didn't get along with john currie (this is based upon second hand information). see the note about bill and john not saying hi to each other at church, for example.
as far as getting along with fans goes, people here hate him because frank martin left k-state, but 99% of our fan base hasn't thought twice about whether or not john currie is personable and don't care anything about the subject. he was so unpersonable that they continued to throw money at him and the department
Currie had a tenuous relationship with some UT coaches and boosters when he was an assistant athletic director at Tennessee.
John Currie just has the worst luck. Coaches that are hard to get along with are everywhere he goes.
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I don't normally listen to the GPC podcast, but I did last night. Fitz made the point that if Currie has something against you, he will basically make up a rule to prevent you from doing certain things. He pointed out that GPC used to be a pregame sponsor for football with a segment and that Fitz used to be the color commentator back up for basketball. A couple of years ago, Currie came to him with a rule that said because of his status as a media member and being part of rivals, he was not able to work for athletics any longer or be a sponsor. However, Fitz then pointed out many rivals colleagues that work for athletics at their institutions, including a guy at Texas Tech and the guy at Tennessee.
Granted, I get that some of that is Fitz being ticked at Currie, but when he pointed out others that do the exact same thing with no problems that Currie made up rules to prevent him from doing, he made his point IMO.
How do I listen to that?
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I don't normally listen to the GPC podcast, but I did last night. Fitz made the point that if Currie has something against you, he will basically make up a rule to prevent you from doing certain things. He pointed out that GPC used to be a pregame sponsor for football with a segment and that Fitz used to be the color commentator back up for basketball. A couple of years ago, Currie came to him with a rule that said because of his status as a media member and being part of rivals, he was not able to work for athletics any longer or be a sponsor. However, Fitz then pointed out many rivals colleagues that work for athletics at their institutions, including a guy at Texas Tech and the guy at Tennessee.
Granted, I get that some of that is Fitz being ticked at Currie, but when he pointed out others that do the exact same thing with no problems that Currie made up rules to prevent him from doing, he made his point IMO.
How do I listen to that?
Kansas State athletics director John Currie announces he's leaving for Tennessee in the morning and the Powercat Podcast records in the afternoon. Add in the fragile status of K-State basketball coach oscar Weber and you've got the makings of a great episode from Tim Fitzgerald, Marcus Watts and Riley Gates. Stir in a little Fridge Wholesale Liquor, and you've got some magic.
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T-y
:cheers: <--Fridge Wholesale Liquor being mixed in
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Other highlights included him saying he was first to confirm currie gone but forgot to say it, and that there still was that segment unfair to oscar from the start but they were right.
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apparently two of the more hard to get along with coaches in their respective sports didn't get along with john currie (this is based upon second hand information). see the note about bill and john not saying hi to each other at church, for example.
as far as getting along with fans goes, people here hate him because frank martin left k-state, but 99% of our fan base hasn't thought twice about whether or not john currie is personable and don't care anything about the subject. he was so unpersonable that they continued to throw money at him and the department
Currie had a tenuous relationship with some UT coaches and boosters when he was an assistant athletic director at Tennessee.
John Currie just has the worst luck. Coaches that are hard to get along with are everywhere he goes.
coaches are hard to get along with, you are correct
the majority of them are controlling, power hungry, assholes
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KMAN said that Currie may have been in Gen Myers bomb sights because Currie wanting to leave was becoming a distraction. They also said that Currie was regularly stirring up crap directly with student athletes ala many Jamar's, and that Currie is the sole reason Foster isn't at Kstate.
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apparently two of the more hard to get along with coaches in their respective sports didn't get along with john currie (this is based upon second hand information). see the note about bill and john not saying hi to each other at church, for example.
as far as getting along with fans goes, people here hate him because frank martin left k-state, but 99% of our fan base hasn't thought twice about whether or not john currie is personable and don't care anything about the subject. he was so unpersonable that they continued to throw money at him and the department
Currie had a tenuous relationship with some UT coaches and boosters when he was an assistant athletic director at Tennessee.
John Currie just has the worst luck. Coaches that are hard to get along with are everywhere he goes.
coaches are hard to get along with, you are correct
the majority of them are controlling, power hungry, assholes
Hey scared of change 'clams. It's an AD's rough ridin' job to know how to deal with coaches, and not create a constant shitty environment
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KMAN said that Currie may have been in Gen Myers bomb sights because Currie wanting to leave was becoming a distraction. They also said that Currie was regularly stirring up crap directly with student athletes ala many Jamar's, and that Currie is the sole reason Foster isn't at Kstate.
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I'm not sure I can believe that part about Foster. oscar seemed really happy to toss him under the bus, back over him, and drive off.
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KMAN said that Currie may have been in Gen Myers bomb sights because Currie wanting to leave was becoming a distraction. They also said that Currie was regularly stirring up crap directly with student athletes ala many Jamar's, and that Currie is the sole reason Foster isn't at Kstate.
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I'm not sure I can believe that part about Foster. oscar seemed really happy to toss him under the bus, back over him, and drive off.
Do you even Brucecuse Bro?
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It's an AD's rough ridin' job to know how to deal with coaches, and not create a constant shitty environment
yep
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Other highlights included him saying he was first to confirm currie gone but forgot to say it
Really? at least hes consistent I guess
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#GBO?
Go Big Orange?
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KMAN said that Currie may have been in Gen Myers bomb sights because Currie wanting to leave was becoming a distraction. They also said that Currie was regularly stirring up crap directly with student athletes ala many Jamar's, and that Currie is the sole reason Foster isn't at Kstate.
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I'm not sure I can believe that part about Foster. oscar seemed really happy to toss him under the bus, back over him, and drive off.
When Foster has publicly blamed himself, I'm not sure how that blame can be transferred from the player, completely over all of his coaches, to the athletic director.
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It was entirely Currie's decision. I never said Foster didn't do dumb things.
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It was entirely Currie's decision. I never said Foster didn't do dumb things.
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This would certainly indicate a change in narrative, I can't think of this as anything else other than another Brucexcuse. We've went from Currie allowing oscar to blow up the program to Currie forcing oscar to blow up the program and the only things that have changed are another shitty season from oscar and a new address for Currie, very convenient.
Fitz made reference to oscar being upset with Currie as well. It's funny that we didn't hear a word about this before February 28th, pretty obvious where this leak is coming from.
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apparently two of the more hard to get along with coaches in their respective sports didn't get along with john currie (this is based upon second hand information). see the note about bill and john not saying hi to each other at church, for example.
as far as getting along with fans goes, people here hate him because frank martin left k-state, but 99% of our fan base hasn't thought twice about whether or not john currie is personable and don't care anything about the subject. he was so unpersonable that they continued to throw money at him and the department
Currie had a tenuous relationship with some UT coaches and boosters when he was an assistant athletic director at Tennessee.
John Currie just has the worst luck. Coaches that are hard to get along with are everywhere he goes.
coaches are hard to get along with, you are correct
the majority of them are controlling, power hungry, assholes
Hey scared of change 'clams. It's an AD's rough ridin' job to know how to deal with coaches, and not create a constant shitty environment
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no crap? no crap. hope your business card reads
sonofdaxjones
ad consultant
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We have more then enough information to know and say with high probability that John Currie likes to get into things, where he really doesn't belong. To add to that, we can lend significant weight to the concept that John Currie is weirdly antagonistic.
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apparently two of the more hard to get along with coaches in their respective sports didn't get along with john currie (this is based upon second hand information). see the note about bill and john not saying hi to each other at church, for example.
as far as getting along with fans goes, people here hate him because frank martin left k-state, but 99% of our fan base hasn't thought twice about whether or not john currie is personable and don't care anything about the subject. he was so unpersonable that they continued to throw money at him and the department
Currie had a tenuous relationship with some UT coaches and boosters when he was an assistant athletic director at Tennessee.
John Currie just has the worst luck. Coaches that are hard to get along with are everywhere he goes.
coaches are hard to get along with, you are correct
the majority of them are controlling, power hungry, assholes
Hey scared of change 'clams. It's an AD's rough ridin' job to know how to deal with coaches, and not create a constant shitty environment
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Tell us what you're afraid of clams.
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based on some things that I somewhat recently heard, I do think there's a chance that marcus leaving was a currie thing and not a oscar thing. I personally don't care either way. neither have been or will ever be emaw.
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apparently two of the more hard to get along with coaches in their respective sports didn't get along with john currie (this is based upon second hand information). see the note about bill and john not saying hi to each other at church, for example.
as far as getting along with fans goes, people here hate him because frank martin left k-state, but 99% of our fan base hasn't thought twice about whether or not john currie is personable and don't care anything about the subject. he was so unpersonable that they continued to throw money at him and the department
Currie had a tenuous relationship with some UT coaches and boosters when he was an assistant athletic director at Tennessee.
John Currie just has the worst luck. Coaches that are hard to get along with are everywhere he goes.
coaches are hard to get along with, you are correct
the majority of them are controlling, power hungry, assholes
Hey scared of change 'clams. It's an AD's rough ridin' job to know how to deal with coaches, and not create a constant shitty environment
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Tell us what you're afraid of clams.
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the framed picture of you naked that i have hanging on my living room wall
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apparently two of the more hard to get along with coaches in their respective sports didn't get along with john currie (this is based upon second hand information). see the note about bill and john not saying hi to each other at church, for example.
as far as getting along with fans goes, people here hate him because frank martin left k-state, but 99% of our fan base hasn't thought twice about whether or not john currie is personable and don't care anything about the subject. he was so unpersonable that they continued to throw money at him and the department
Currie had a tenuous relationship with some UT coaches and boosters when he was an assistant athletic director at Tennessee.
John Currie just has the worst luck. Coaches that are hard to get along with are everywhere he goes.
coaches are hard to get along with, you are correct
the majority of them are controlling, power hungry, assholes
Hey scared of change 'clams. It's an AD's rough ridin' job to know how to deal with coaches, and not create a constant shitty environment
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the framed picture of you naked that i have hanging on my living room wall
What kind of frame?
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:lol:
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Not that Foster leaving was a super significant event, but I'm willing to split blame for the situation between oscar and Currie as they're both walking through the door.
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Not that Foster leaving was a super significant event, but I'm willing to split blame for the situation between oscar and Currie as they're both walking through the door.
yikes, thenwhat part of the blame falls on the athlete?
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Not that Foster leaving was a super significant event, but I'm willing to split blame for the situation between oscar and Currie as they're both walking through the door.
yikes, thenwhat part of the blame falls on the athlete?
Who cares, blame them all, Currie is out, get oscar out too, and blame him for Foster if that helps us get him out.
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I think part of Foster leaving had to do with him getting super stoned in his hotel room before a game @ Tech and posting pics of getting "lit" with Randolph on social media. :dunno:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5y_cl3WIO6A
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I think part of Foster leaving had to do with him getting super stoned in his hotel room before a game @ Tech and posting pics of getting "lit" with Randolph on social media. :dunno:
Well that is silly to me. If Phelps can smoke weed and own the Olympics, I don't want that ever be used as a detractor.
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Yeah, that's fine, but it pushes your Athletic Department into a corner when you're posting it out to the masses.
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Wasn't it just saying lit? I don't remember seeing anything incriminating in the photo. I'd say it warrants a talking to. But doesn't back anyone into a corner
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I feel not getting invited to skills camps after his shitty season would have been a wake up call. Or getting whooped at them. Jmho
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i'm sure foster was doing things that a division 1 scholarship athlete shouldn't be doing. some schools may look the other way, i'm not sure we should have.
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As talented as he was and as much as I would've liked to keep him, Foster probably needed to go. That doesn't mean oscar should've got a free "restart" since he recruited him and wasn't able to manage him.
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press confy for those interested
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQCHUqHWdmQ[/youtube]
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Where
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Playing up his southern accent super hard
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Was he in full Colonel Sanders mode or is March 1st is too early for seersucker?
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Was he in full Colonel Sanders mode or is March 1st is too early for seersucker?
He had on a bright orange tie but beyond that it's a pretty standard suit. Honestly I'm more fascinated now by the chancellor lady. She's just as socially awkward as him if not moreso.
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I didn't watch, but apparently he said nothing about Butch Jones.
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Was he in full Colonel Sanders mode or is March 1st is too early for seersucker?
He had on a bright orange tie but beyond that it's a pretty standard suit. Honestly I'm more fascinated now by the chancellor lady. She's just as socially awkward as him if not moreso.
YES! The 15 seconds of her I watched made me think "this gal could be Currie's sister"
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We were entertained by his haircut, which looked like it came at the hands of a 7 iron.
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I nearly choked when he said decade of dominance when referencing Phil Fulmer
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I didn't watch, but apparently he said nothing about Butch Jones.
There is nothing to be said other than the fact that he seems to be an enabler of sexual abusers. That's probably better left unsaid at the first press conference.
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I forgot about that. Didn't a DB get beat up twice for standing up and helping a victim by teammates. Then quit the team. Thanks for the reminder. I hope Currie does the right thing.
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So, its been a super long time since I've posted anything, but I got some awesome nuggets from an A++ source about Currie recently.
Apparently, he was a huge dickhead to staff always. A story was told that Currie was known to berate employees behind closed doors constantly. One day, an athletics staff employee showed up to an event at the Alumni Center with the wrong brand of water bottle. Currie lost his crap. This was a closed door event.
Jerry Kill was, in fact, hired to be the go-between for Snyder and Currie. Snyder refused to speak with him directly, and wouldn't even acknowledge him directly in meetings. I can just picture Bill saying something to Jerry at a meeting and Jerry relaying it to Currie, who is also in the meeting like, "John, Bill wants you to know he still can't stand you" while Bill has a crap-eating grin on his face.
This all has probably been discussed, but I missed it here.
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So, its been a super long time since I've posted anything, but I got some awesome nuggets from an A++ source about Currie recently.
Apparently, he was a huge dickhead to staff always. A story was told that Currie was known to berate employees behind closed doors constantly. One day, an athletics staff employee showed up to an event at the Alumni Center with the wrong brand of water bottle. Currie lost his crap. This was a closed door event.
Jerry Kill was, in fact, hired to be the go-between for Snyder and Currie. Snyder refused to speak with him directly, and wouldn't even acknowledge him directly in meetings. I can just picture Bill saying something to Jerry at a meeting and Jerry relaying it to Currie, who is also in the meeting like, "John, Bill wants you to know he still can't stand you" while Bill has a crap-eating grin on his face.
This all has probably been discussed, but I missed it here.
LOL! Was your source Veatch.
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The article said he starts April 1 IIRC, but I'm thinking we just said "leave now"?
https://twitter.com/John_Currie/status/838041672109928448
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he looks re-tennessee'd already
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he looks re-tennessee'd already
Very much.
https://twitter.com/John_Currie
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Are you sure you don't want him back?
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Positive.
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Are you sure you don't want him back?
Yeah, I'm 100% sure I don't want him back.
Have fun with that socially inept/ruthless dictator of a AD.
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I am impressed that his Twitter header is now a quote from himself.
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Are you sure you don't want him back?
Yeah, I'm 100% sure I don't want him back.
Have fun with that socially inept/ruthless dictator of a AD.
:)
The Chinese fire drill entertainment value is kind of what we're used to now. Just going to pop a big bucket of popcorn and sit back and watch the show.(http://wanna-joke.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/funny-gifs-cat-warm-popcorn.gif)
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he looks re-tennessee'd already
Very much.
https://twitter.com/John_Currie
Wow. It's like he's been in a perpetual state of orgasm over the past 48 hours.
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Can Cat fans get a lead to the best Vol message boards to watch the meltdowns?
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Can Cat fans get a lead to the best Vol message boards to watch the meltdowns?
Volnation.com - very pro-UT; large community; there are some naysayers; when it happens the meltdowns will be epic
feelslike98.com - younger crowd; small community; somewhat disenchanted with UTAD
outermonvolia.com - older crowd; small community; still hopeful but disenchanted
8thmaxim.com - totally out on UTAD; still a fun read
Volquest (rivals) - https://tennessee.forums.rivals.com/ (I assume it's still very pro-UT)
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I dont understand Tennessee's obsession with the University of Texas???
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^With regard to anything in particular?
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:lol:
The preview image doesn't quite match the content, and I love it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELisioitDac
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:lol: :sdeek:
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I've been really surprised at the number of people who never knew he was at UTenn before. Lots of people asking questions about what he will do.
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:lol:
The preview image doesn't quite match the content, and I love it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELisioitDac
WEYULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
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:lol:
The preview image doesn't quite match the content, and I love it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELisioitDac
I was not prepared for that level of hick/overweight/inbred. I thought the video had an error and was locked into a loop with his "ecstatic" repetition. Then, when I realized it was just him, I could only take about 15 more seconds. Had to close out, prepare, and then try again.
Don't you worry hillbilly. 'Ole Currie will find you a new football coach alright, and that coach will have you competing with the likes of Vandy and Kentucky for the bottom of the barrel.
They're going to run him out of town.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQCHUqHWdmQ
The intro music was the best.
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Can Cat fans get a lead to the best Vol message boards to watch the meltdowns?
Volnation.com - very pro-UT; large community; there are some naysayers; when it happens the meltdowns will be epic
feelslike98.com - younger crowd; small community; somewhat disenchanted with UTAD
outermonvolia.com - older crowd; small community; still hopeful but disenchanted
8thmaxim.com - totally out on UTAD; still a fun read
Volquest (rivals) - https://tennessee.forums.rivals.com/ (I assume it's still very pro-UT)
feelslike98 is the worst name for a website or anything else ever
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:lol:
The preview image doesn't quite match the content, and I love it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELisioitDac
anybody know if this is our beloved new gE poster bigorange or nah?
:cheers:
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The preview image doesn't quite match the content, and I love it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELisioitDac
I was not prepared for that level of hick/overweight/inbred. I thought the video had an error and was locked into a loop with his "ecstatic" repetition. Then, when I realized it was just him, I could only take about 15 more seconds. Had to close out, prepare, and then try again.
Don't you worry hillbilly. 'Ole Currie will find you a new football coach alright, and that coach will have you competing with the likes of Vandy and Kentucky for the bottom of the barrel.
They're going to run him out of town.
Kentucky fills their stadium
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anybody know if this is our beloved new gE poster bigorange or nah?
:cheers:
lol
No, not me. That video was brutal. We have a lot of great fans. However, enough of them are like that guy to make it possible for the powers that be to let football (and UT athletics) slide as much as they have. It's like they don't even hear the warnings that KSU fans have told us about Currie.
In the past, we never lost to Vandy or Kentucky, now we regularly lose to Vandy.
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i thought the guy was pretty reasonable, he certain wasn't any different than you'd find in every fanbase
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Can Cat fans get a lead to the best Vol message boards to watch the meltdowns?
Volnation.com - very pro-UT; large community; there are some naysayers; when it happens the meltdowns will be epic
feelslike98.com - younger crowd; small community; somewhat disenchanted with UTAD
outermonvolia.com - older crowd; small community; still hopeful but disenchanted
8thmaxim.com - totally out on UTAD; still a fun read
Volquest (rivals) - https://tennessee.forums.rivals.com/ (I assume it's still very pro-UT)
feelslike98 is the worst name for a website or anything else ever
I could see it as a Michael Jordan cologne or something.
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Are there many female ADs?
this jogged my memory
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017/03/20/pitt-names-heather-lyke-as-new-athletic-director/
Lyke is only the fifth women to lead a sports program in all five of the power conferences combined. She also joins Sandy Barbour of Penn State in the same capacity.
a couple of years old, but http://www.wbur.org/onlyagame/2015/04/25/female-athletic-directors-college-titleix
Though Fitzpatrick found that 20 percent of schools at all levels have female athletic directors, only 10 percent of Division I schools do. And among the 120 Football Bowl Subdivision schools, there are just seven female A.D.’s. One reason for that imbalance is the preeminence of that sport.
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Weak. I'd like to see more. Come on KSU find a great woman for the job!
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dumbstick's wife was our assistant ad for 5 years
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They have periods. Can't be trusted.
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Ha! DNR thread but OMG
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Weak. I'd like to see more. Come on KSU find a great woman for the job!
wow! look how non-sexist sdk is! sooo progressive
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:lol:
The preview image doesn't quite match the content, and I love it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELisioitDac
Ummmm there are videos of UT fans peeing on pictures of former coaches...? Showing their butts like they're known to do..?
What
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Weak. I'd like to see more. Come on KSU find a great woman for the job!
wow! look how non-sexist sdk is! sooo progressive
I will punch you in the testicles.
Then grab you an ice pack. Go cats.
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https://twitter.com/JohnDBrice1/status/861681456422297600
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all UT fans need to know:
Ran off Good coach that wins that the fans loved to replace him with a Mediocre coach that produces meh teams...
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https://twitter.com/claytravis/status/914596149515956225
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LOL. They're going to be all kinds of mad when he bruces them with his football hire.
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LOL. They're going to be all kinds of mad when he bruces them with his football hire.
I'm sure we have been over this but who is the most "oscar" football hire out there? Mike Riley? Brady Hoke?
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"Most profitable (AD) in the SEC."
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i was going to say Jim Grobe but Mike Riley would definitely be the oscar-iest hire
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LOL. They're going to be all kinds of mad when he bruces them with his football hire.
I'm sure we have been over this but who is the most "oscar" football hire out there? Mike Riley? Brady Hoke?
rich rod, mike belotti, jerry kill
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LOL. They're going to be all kinds of mad when he bruces them with his football hire.
I'm sure we have been over this but who is the most "oscar" football hire out there? Mike Riley? Brady Hoke?
rich rod, mike belotti, jerry kill
Jerry Kill would rather bathe his d in acid then set it on fire than work for John Currie again. He could take less than a year of him at KSU before he left a cushy job he hoped to cruise to retirement in due to his dislike of JC's winning personality. Says all you need to know.
Gonna have to be someone very, very desperate for a job to jump into the mess that will be any job with Curry running the department.
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LOL. They're going to be all kinds of mad when he bruces them with his football hire.
I'm sure we have been over this but who is the most "oscar" football hire out there? Mike Riley? Brady Hoke?
rich rod, mike belotti, jerry kill
Jerry Kill would rather bathe his d in acid then set it on fire than work for John Currie again. He could take less than a year of him at KSU before he left a cushy job he hoped to cruise to retirement in due to his dislike of JC's winning personality. Says all you need to know.
Gonna have to be someone very, very desperate for a job to jump into the mess that will be any job with Curry running the department.
did you even read the question i responded to? I'm comparing coaches to oscar not who is going to be at tennessee
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LOL. They're going to be all kinds of mad when he bruces them with his football hire.
I'm sure we have been over this but who is the most "oscar" football hire out there? Mike Riley? Brady Hoke?
Gene Chizik
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Sean Snyder would be ideal.
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That's a good one
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www.firejohncurrie.com should be worth a ton right now.
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LOL. They're going to be all kinds of mad when he bruces them with his football hire.
I'm sure we have been over this but who is the most "oscar" football hire out there? Mike Riley? Brady Hoke?
Gene Chizik
Chizik is about as close as you can get - it is just some much harder to ride the talents of guys the previous coach recruited in football - even Chizik at least closed the deal on Cam which is something oscar has never done.
I think Curry has reached his mountain top and will take the best guy he can get to say yes. That might end being Chip Kelly and I will set the floor as Les Miles.
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It's pretty impossible to find a football coach comparison to oscar when the dork factor is considered. Proud Paul is the second biggest dork I can think of in the coaching world.
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It's pretty impossible to find a football coach comparison to oscar when the dork factor is considered. Proud Paul is the second biggest dork I can think of in the coaching world.
That guy that coached at Colorado after Boise was a pretty giant dork. But I think he's out of coaching and building birdhouses or something.
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Les Miles would be a really good hire, and he would absolutely take the Tennessee job. Currie would be an idiot to not hire him. He would easily be the best coach that school has had since Fulmer.
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Les Miles would be a really good hire, and he would absolutely take the Tennessee job. Currie would be an idiot to not hire him. He would easily be the best coach that school has had since Fulmer.
Has anything good happened to a school that has run off a coach with a crystal football?
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I think Curry has reached his mountain top and will take the best guy he can get to say yes. That might end being Chip Kelly and I will set the floor as Les Miles.
yep. he's now in his dream job, he's going to do everything he can to stay there and that includes hiring anyone and everyone that will further the chances that he stays there.
also, he hated ksu cats u and wanted to punish our souls and soil our university's name
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I think Curry has reached his mountain top and will take the best guy he can get to say yes. That might end being Chip Kelly and I will set the floor as Les Miles.
yep. he's now in his dream job, he's going to do everything he can to stay there and that includes hiring anyone and everyone that will further the chances that he stays there.
also, he hated ksu cats u and wanted to punish our souls and soil our university's name
I think Currie wants a cushy NCAA job. That is the dream.
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LOL. They're going to be all kinds of mad when he bruces them with his football hire.
I'm sure we have been over this but who is the most "oscar" football hire out there? Mike Riley? Brady Hoke?
Gene Chizik
OMG. Utterly forgot about the existence of Gene.
If KSU isn't careful, we might just get him.
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https://twitter.com/emprosports/status/921881579714174976
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https://twitter.com/John_Currie/status/922262662699941888
the replies :D
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Currie already getting along famously with the Vol faithful
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Have we delivered the wiki yet? :impatient:
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Blaming an assistant ad for firing a football coach? That's truly unhinged.
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https://twitter.com/John_Currie/status/922262662699941888
the replies :D
He hasn't said a word about Jones, so people were happy to jump on him.
Do you think he has what it takes to bring in a big name coach?
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:lol: that tennessee fan
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Haha awesome
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If I was a Tennessee fan I would commission a mural of that on my garage door.
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Currie hasn't made a peep about firing our coach or hiring another. Does this sound familiar from his time at KSU? Is this his way of giving the finger to impatient fans?
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He's not spending $14M on that buyout. He'll treat Butch like crap and force him to quit. How long can Butch take it?
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There's speculation floating around that Currie is mad that fans are displeased with him. He'll fire BJ when he gets good and ready.
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https://twitter.com/andrew_whaley/status/924471543564066816
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Currie hasn't made a peep about firing our coach or hiring another. Does this sound familiar from his time at KSU? Is this his way of giving the finger to impatient fans?
:D
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There's speculation floating around that Currie is mad that fans are displeased with him. He'll fire BJ when he gets good and ready.
Currie doesn't care about results as long as they're clean. As long as bj is running a clean program I don't think fan unrest will influence curries decision making very much
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Currie will try to hire Weber first chance he gets.
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Currie will try to hire Weber first chance he gets.
oscar didn’t like CurDog.
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Currie hasn't made a peep about firing our coach or hiring another. Does this sound familiar from his time at KSU? Is this his way of giving the finger to impatient fans?
Why can't you weirdos wait until the end of the season? You're probably getting your like fourth choice anyway.
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The Knoxville paper's comment section is just a treat to read. That twitter links above just give a glimpse of how awesome it is.
I'm really surprised at how many people didn't remember JC from his days at UT or even invest 30 seconds to find out what his MO was at KSU.
Also MiR you'd probably enjoy the people actually asking how we know the people attending recent racist gatherings (actual stormfront.org rally) are really racists.
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Now they down here calling for Currie to be fired since he ain't fired Lyle yet.
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The Knoxville paper's comment section is just a treat to read. That twitter links above just give a glimpse of how awesome it is.
I'm really surprised at how many people didn't remember JC from his days at UT or even invest 30 seconds to find out what his MO was at KSU.
One of the candidates for the AD job was a local guy who had served for years in the UTAD, David Blackburn. A lot of people wanted him, and he probably would have been a great hire. Fulmer threw his name into the hat in the middle of that search. Fulmer's ego along with some blackballing on the UT Board of Trustees meant that Blackburn didn't get the job. So we ending up taking Currie off your hands because he served sweet tea in orange cups to our Chancellor when she interviewed him.
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I'm not sure if the sweet tea thing is true. I could totes see JC doing something corny lime that.
I would have preferred cheerwine.
But I don't see why Tennessee wants him gone tomorrow. Nothing is gained and it could be a bad look since you're not firing for cause. Just start your search now and fire him the day before the sec ccg. But this team seems to be headed to a weird place. The weed story this week and weird apology were kinda weak.
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X w/thread where it was debated if a tiki bar was hipster:
https://twitter.com/andrew_whaley/status/926096053488758784
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well if john currie wants to put it inside a college football stadium, it must be hipstery
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Lulz (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171108/a1c2623d4a620a8cea1b17da2dd17ac5.jpg)
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Good ole luke ji with a piping hot scoop!
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First they came for the Boys, and I said nothing...
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Currie is finally getting his shot at a football hire
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You laugh now but I wouldn't be shocked if we hired Butch.
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Currie is finally getting his shot at a football hire
He's gonna knock it out too, Matt Campbell or Scott Frost.
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You laugh now but I wouldn't be shocked if we hired Butch.
Lol too much dirt
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The gE reaction if Currie goes and hires Venables would be highly entertaining though.
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It would make Brad to OSU seem like childs play
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The gE reaction if Currie goes and hires Venables would be highly entertaining though.
Doesn't fit Currie's criteria. I also am not sure they would want him. Tennessee fans think they have the best open job.
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Tennessee Curdog fires his football coach. He wants a new one who has character. Sean?
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Based on past history, who do think JC has as his top candidates?
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The gE reaction if Currie goes and hires Venables would be highly entertaining though.
Doesn't fit Currie's criteria. I also am not sure they would want him. Tennessee fans think they have the best open job.
Tennessee fans seem more delusional than Nebraska fans when it comes to their place in the CFB landscape. 3rd best job in their division and maybe the 7th in their conference.
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Based on past history, who do think JC has as his top candidates?
Butch Jones would be his #1 candidate at another school. Mike Reilly probs moves to #1 when the Nubs fire him in a few weeks.
Others off the top of my head: Les Miles, Helfrich, Tracy Claeys?, Sumlin (when he's canned soon)
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Gene Chizik
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Jim McElwain
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Currie is finally getting his shot at a football hire
He's gonna knock it out too, Matt Campbell or Scott Frost.
I think this is what the Nebraska coaching searching does, and should, look like. Frost being an obvious candidate but I wonder if he’d take the job - getting the players for that offense in Nebraska seems like a decent challenge. I think Matt Campbell would be a great fit in Lincoln.
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Tennessee is about to put $340 million into stadium upgrades. I'm not sure I'd call them 7th in the conference, but could see 3rd in the east. The school has a lot of upside, amazing setting, (great hill to look upon, even though you can't see them from in the stadium), crap loads of growth on campus (huge student union project), and some pretty good talent around them. For sure though, the people here think they are on the verge of competing with Bama with just a HC change. It's a little bit odd to see their expectations. Bu that is what happens when you have years of the SEC is best nonsense.
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It's incredible how much campus has changed. It's not much of an exaggeration to say that they're in the process of tearing most buildings down and putting new ones in their place. They'll leave the core buildings on the Hill, but a lot of buildings have been torn down.
At worst, they'll hire a B list candidate who'll win 7 or 8 games a year. Unfortunately, the stadium will always fill up for those type of seasons. It's why I think it's unlikely that we'll hire one of the A listers, like Gruden, Kelly, Patterson, Petersen, Mullen, Franklin, etc. I'll believe it when I see it.
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You are absolutely right on the B list hire big orange, the Currie formula at KState was
1. Previous head coaching experience
2. At least a similar resume to the coach he fired
Currie is a numbers guy that will look for the guy that looks good on paper and he is not going to move heaven and earth to get A lister because he doesn't want a coach that could out leverage him.
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Currie might hire Les Miles. Les is probably the best coach for the job, anyway.
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Based on past history, who do think JC has as his top candidates?
Butch Jones would be his #1 candidate at another school. Mike Reilly probs moves to #1 when the Nubs fire him in a few weeks.
Others off the top of my head: Les Miles, Helfrich, Tracy Claeys?, Sumlin (when he's canned soon)
He made good coaching hires here, he clearly could have done better than oscar, although I think the program turns the proverbial corner this year. People will dismiss it because for some reason women's basketball doesn't count, but it was gangsta what he did to TCU.
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i can see Nebraska going after Les, his son plays there i believe.
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You are absolutely right on the B list hire big orange, the Currie formula at KState was
1. Previous head coaching experience
2. At least a similar resume to the coach he fired
Currie is a numbers guy that will look for the guy that looks good on paper and he is not going to move heaven and earth to get A lister because he doesn't want a coach that could out leverage him.
Our fans have had to put up with the tail end of the Fulmer years (where he stayed for 2 or 3 too many seasons), and now three calamitous hires.
If they don't at least trot out a big name coach, I don't know what our fans will do.
That last part about not wanting a too-powerful coach worries me. The Gruden supporters think that he wasn't hired here in 2012 because our donors wouldn't give him total control, like Saban. Even if we don't get Gruden, I hope that doesn't scare off other coaches.
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Tennessee is about to put $340 million into stadium upgrades. I'm not sure I'd call them 7th in the conference, but could see 3rd in the east. The school has a lot of upside, amazing setting, (great hill to look upon, even though you can't see them from in the stadium), crap loads of growth on campus (huge student union project), and some pretty good talent around them. For sure though, the people here think they are on the verge of competing with Bama with just a HC change. It's a little bit odd to see their expectations. Bu that is what happens when you have years of the SEC is best nonsense.
In no particular order...Bama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, and Georgia are all better jobs. It's a toss up with TAMU for #6.
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Tennessee is about to put $340 million into stadium upgrades. I'm not sure I'd call them 7th in the conference, but could see 3rd in the east. The school has a lot of upside, amazing setting, (great hill to look upon, even though you can't see them from in the stadium), crap loads of growth on campus (huge student union project), and some pretty good talent around them. For sure though, the people here think they are on the verge of competing with Bama with just a HC change. It's a little bit odd to see their expectations. Bu that is what happens when you have years of the SEC is best nonsense.
In no particular order...Bama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, and Georgia are all better jobs. It's a toss up with TAMU for #6.
FWIW, Florida's facilities are apparently awful, and even though Scott Striclin is now the AD Jeremy Foley is still around helping with decision-making and he is apparently tight fisted with money. ONE of the issues the athletic department had with JM is that he brought this up, unprompted at a press conference.
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Tennessee is about to put $340 million into stadium upgrades. I'm not sure I'd call them 7th in the conference, but could see 3rd in the east. The school has a lot of upside, amazing setting, (great hill to look upon, even though you can't see them from in the stadium), crap loads of growth on campus (huge student union project), and some pretty good talent around them. For sure though, the people here think they are on the verge of competing with Bama with just a HC change. It's a little bit odd to see their expectations. Bu that is what happens when you have years of the SEC is best nonsense.
In no particular order...Bama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, and Georgia are all better jobs. It's a toss up with TAMU for #6.
FWIW, Florida's facilities are apparently awful, and even though Scott Striclin is now the AD Jeremy Foley is still around helping with decision-making and he is apparently tight fisted with money. ONE of the issues the athletic department had with JM is that he brought this up, unprompted at a press conference.
They just completed a new indoor practice facility in 2015 and are breaking ground on a training center/dining hall next month. Also worth noting that Laird Veatch will be involved with oversight of that project. He'll probably have some input on their coaching hire too.
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Tennessee is about to put $340 million into stadium upgrades. I'm not sure I'd call them 7th in the conference, but could see 3rd in the east. The school has a lot of upside, amazing setting, (great hill to look upon, even though you can't see them from in the stadium), crap loads of growth on campus (huge student union project), and some pretty good talent around them. For sure though, the people here think they are on the verge of competing with Bama with just a HC change. It's a little bit odd to see their expectations. Bu that is what happens when you have years of the SEC is best nonsense.
In no particular order...Bama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, and Georgia are all better jobs. It's a toss up with TAMU for #6.
FWIW, Florida's facilities are apparently awful, and even though Scott Striclin is now the AD Jeremy Foley is still around helping with decision-making and he is apparently tight fisted with money. ONE of the issues the athletic department had with JM is that he brought this up, unprompted at a press conference.
They just completed a new indoor practice facility in 2015 and are breaking ground on a training center/dining hall next month. Also worth noting that Laird Veatch will be involved with oversight of that project. He'll probably have some input on their coaching hire too.
But our Vanier :lol: at their cute little Vanier.
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Tennessee is about to put $340 million into stadium upgrades. I'm not sure I'd call them 7th in the conference, but could see 3rd in the east. The school has a lot of upside, amazing setting, (great hill to look upon, even though you can't see them from in the stadium), crap loads of growth on campus (huge student union project), and some pretty good talent around them. For sure though, the people here think they are on the verge of competing with Bama with just a HC change. It's a little bit odd to see their expectations. Bu that is what happens when you have years of the SEC is best nonsense.
In no particular order...Bama, LSU, Auburn, Florida, and Georgia are all better jobs. It's a toss up with TAMU for #6.
FWIW, Florida's facilities are apparently awful, and even though Scott Striclin is now the AD Jeremy Foley is still around helping with decision-making and he is apparently tight fisted with money. ONE of the issues the athletic department had with JM is that he brought this up, unprompted at a press conference.
They just completed a new indoor practice facility in 2015 and are breaking ground on a training center/dining hall next month. Also worth noting that Laird Veatch will be involved with oversight of that project. He'll probably have some input on their coaching hire too.
I think TC's list is very reasonable.
Bama is obviously Bama. I knew UF had awful facilities, but didn't know they had that much work scheduled. They seem like an AD with a bit of a direction issue with a couple tough football hires and not keeping up with the Jones. I don't know about LSU to make a judgement, but gut has them above UT. Auburn has recent success and hasn't really been in the basement. We'll see how Georgia sustains. I don't know one way or another on their facilities.
Also UTenn has amazing transit buses unlike what I've seen at UF, so that practically worth one place up on the power rankings.
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https://twitter.com/John_Currie/status/931523012603637760
Look at the replies to this tweet, Tennessee fans are insufferable
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WOW!
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https://twitter.com/John_Currie/status/931523012603637760
Look at the replies to this tweet, Tennessee fans are insufferable
his header is absolutely fantastic
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https://twitter.com/John_Currie/status/931523012603637760
Look at the replies to this tweet, Tennessee fans are insufferable
his header is absolutely fantastic
Hahahaha, I had to go check that out. "Will it help us win?" :lol: that certainly wasn't his motto here
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https://twitter.com/John_Currie/status/931523012603637760
Look at the replies to this tweet, Tennessee fans are insufferable
his header is absolutely fantastic
Hahahaha, I had to go check that out. "Will it help us win?" :lol: that certainly wasn't his motto here
it looks like a 3rd grader learned how to photoshop
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I enjoyed the “Update your iPhone” comment
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Update your A [?]phone
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https://twitter.com/John_Currie/status/931523012603637760
Look at the replies to this tweet, Tennessee fans are insufferable
Every one of his tweets gets those responses. What’s great about this one is Schulz getting @’d in all of them too.
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He must have his own photographer following him around to catch these action shots.
https://twitter.com/John_Currie/status/929786217033592833
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Why do they want gruden so much
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Why do they want gruden so much
Group think
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As high on Leavitt as Currie is, will he hire him before we can land Jim once and for all?
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Tennessee fans would lose their collective crap
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:bwpopcorn: Seeing who John gets is a spectator sport now that he isn't here.
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Tennessee fans would lose their collective crap
This will happen no matter who he hires.
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Tennessee fans would lose their collective crap
This will happen no matter who he hires.
Who is the football equivalent to oscar Weber?
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Tennessee fans would lose their collective crap
This will happen no matter who he hires.
Who is the football equivalent to oscar Weber?
Bielema
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https://twitter.com/RollTitanz/status/932114356401295361
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so does everyone still think only ksu cats has weirdo fans?
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They have reached mass hysteria.
https://twitter.com/calhouns/status/932050993788936192
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https://twitter.com/RollTitanz/status/932114356401295361
Damn. What a psycho
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https://twitter.com/RollTitanz/status/932114356401295361
How often does this dude regret leaving the obscurity and sanity of Manhattan?
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so does everyone still think only ksu cats has weirdo fans?
Who thinks of weirdo fans when it comes to K-State? I think things like nondescript, vanilla, plain, blank.
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Polite.
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Jim Mora is available now.
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That concourse thing is Currie's fault for not wearing checkerboard overalls and a coonskin cap.
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That concourse thing is Currie's fault for not wearing checkerboard overalls and a coonskin cap.
Hahahaha I'm sure he breaks them out on the summer tour.
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the buzz in the profession the past 24 hours has been that Mike Leach seems to have a very good shot at being offered the position.
The expectation from those we’ve spoken with is that Leach would accept the position if offered.
http://footballscoop.com/news/update-tennessees-coaching-search-saturday-november-25/
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Whoa
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:frown: Would've been amazing. I miss Currie so much
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Right. That weasel's head would explode if he was in the locker room for something like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZaOFTp5_C8&t=336s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZaOFTp5_C8&t=336s)
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So reports are having him gauging Peterson, Leach, and Mullen's interest for the job.
I don't know what you think, but that's a solid list to start off.
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Why do people like Mullen so much?
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OMG, Currie wins if he hires Leach. If that’s what we missed out on....OMG.
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So reports are having him gauging Peterson, Leach, and Mullen's interest for the job.
I don't know what you think, but that's a solid list to start off.
peterson is not leaving seattle for tennessee. lol. so cross hm off the list.
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Sucks I got abandoned by my cool AD and left behind with this Schulz dork who’s probably been looking to fire me since Day 1. eff it, I’m bailing to go work for John Currie.
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Sucks I got abandoned by my cool AD and left behind with this Schulz dork who’s probably been looking to fire me since Day 1. eff it, I’m bailing to go work for John Currie.
:lol:
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So reports are having him gauging Peterson, Leach, and Mullen's interest for the job.
I don't know what you think, but that's a solid list to start off.
Rumors of an announcement tomorrow. We'll see how JC did. After this season, it better be a great hire.
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The inevitable sideshow of a Leach/Currie duo is mos def worth the price of admission.
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The top is about to blow off of this place. I've never seen people this angry. Maybe the end of the Battle era in the mid 70s.
JC has let the Gruden rumors hang out there for a month now, and nobody will refute them. If a second tier coach walks to that podium, we may lose a significant part of our fanbase. People are just going to stop caring or following the program.
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I mean you're a second tier program...
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You and Nebraska can commiserate over being being irrelevant for essentially twenty years.
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You and Nebraska can commiserate over being being irrelevant for essentially twenty years.
With the very cautious bean counter JC at the switch. Sorry, Vols but you're mumped.
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You and Nebraska can commiserate over being being irrelevant for essentially twenty years.
Our slide starting in 2001 in the SEC Championship game losing to a backup LSU QB. By 2005, we were not a national contender, and haven't been since.
With the very cautious bean counter JC at the switch. Sorry, Vols but you're mumped.
It's starting to sound like he made a very bad miscalculation by leaving the Gruden rumors out there. When he did make a public statement, it was about pushing for an upcoming stadium renovation. People are expecting a huge hire. If he doesn't come through, it's going to be ugly.
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You and Nebraska can commiserate over being being irrelevant for essentially twenty years.
Our slide starting in 2001 in the SEC Championship game losing to a backup LSU QB. By 2005, we were not a national contender, and haven't been since.
With the very cautious bean counter JC at the switch. Sorry, Vols but you're mumped.
It's starting to sound like he made a very bad miscalculation by leaving the Gruden rumors out there. When he did make a public statement, it was about pushing for an upcoming stadium renovation. People are expecting a huge hire. If he doesn't come through, it's going to be ugly.
Look for Currie to check himself into a non-descript Dallas hotel. When this happens it's game on!
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The top is about to blow off of this place. I've never seen people this angry. Maybe the end of the Battle era in the mid 70s.
JC has let the Gruden rumors hang out there for a month now, and nobody will refute them. If a second tier coach walks to that podium, we may lose a significant part of our fanbase. People are just going to stop caring or following the program.
No sane person would hold that against Currie. Gruden has turned down NFL jobs to stay at MNF but Genesee Tennessee fans are so stupid and myopic that they thought he'd leave to go there. I would be like us pitching a fit that we don't get get Dabo to replace Snyder.
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No sane person would hold that against Currie. Gruden has turned down NFL jobs to stay at MNF but Genesee Tennessee fans are so stupid and myopic that they thought he'd leave to go there. I would be like us pitching a fit that we don't get get Dabo to replace Snyder.
Gruden has a pretty long history with Tennessee, and he likes the Vols (says he does at least). He has played this game before (2012), so it won't surprise me at all if this is a big tease. I say tease b/c neither JC nor Gruden has shot down the rumors for almost a month now. There really haven't been any credible reports as to whom JC has talked. I wish we just had a normal coaching search where we talked to one coach, he said no, we talked to next coach, etc. Instead, the fans are worked up to a fever pitch. The press conference should be something to behold.
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The top is about to blow off of this place. I've never seen people this angry. Maybe the end of the Battle era in the mid 70s.
JC has let the Gruden rumors hang out there for a month now, and nobody will refute them. If a second tier coach walks to that podium, we may lose a significant part of our fanbase. People are just going to stop caring or following the program.
No sane person would hold that against Currie. Gruden has turned down NFL jobs to stay at MNF but Genesee Tennessee fans are so stupid and myopic that they thought he'd leave to go there. I would be like us pitching a fit that we don't get get Dabo to replace Snyder.
On top of that, I don't know why Tennessee fans assume Gruden would do a good job. Even with Tennessee being a second tier sec program they could get pretty good college candidates.
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:eek:
...the deal, if reached, would be worth upwards of $10M per season for Gruden, with another $8M per season reserved for the salaries of his staff.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jon-gruden-talking-to-tennessee-volunteers-about-coaching-vacancy/ (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jon-gruden-talking-to-tennessee-volunteers-about-coaching-vacancy/)
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:eek:
...the deal, if reached, would be worth upwards of $10M per season for Gruden, with another $8M per season reserved for the salaries of his staff.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jon-gruden-talking-to-tennessee-volunteers-about-coaching-vacancy/ (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jon-gruden-talking-to-tennessee-volunteers-about-coaching-vacancy/)
So colossally stupid. Come on, they aren't going to give that dude $10 million a year
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Gruden hasn’t proved himself to be a $5m per year coach. I get the upside, but a lot of unknown. He could be a huge flop.
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:eek:
...the deal, if reached, would be worth upwards of $10M per season for Gruden, with another $8M per season reserved for the salaries of his staff.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jon-gruden-talking-to-tennessee-volunteers-about-coaching-vacancy/ (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jon-gruden-talking-to-tennessee-volunteers-about-coaching-vacancy/)
So colossally stupid. Come on, they aren't going to give that dude $10 million a year
No doubt.
It would make him the 2nd highest paid coach in CFB behind Saban and he hasn't coached a game in 10 years.
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Look at the tennessee 247 guy in that pop-up video. :lol:
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:eek:
...the deal, if reached, would be worth upwards of $10M per season for Gruden, with another $8M per season reserved for the salaries of his staff.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jon-gruden-talking-to-tennessee-volunteers-about-coaching-vacancy/ (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jon-gruden-talking-to-tennessee-volunteers-about-coaching-vacancy/)
So colossally stupid. Come on, they aren't going to give that dude $10 million a year
stupid why?
it’s not currie’s money, it costs him nothing. he’s giving his fans what they want and putting money in his own pocket via 5 years+ of job security. if it doesn’t work, its’s gruden’s fault, not currie’s and no one would think otherwise
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RT @ClayTravis: Hey @John_Currie you need to resign right now and let me make the rough ridin' hire. This is unacceptable. I will hire t… https://t.co/xjNAdIl4O3
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:lol:
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In a clay trav v j curr cagematch I'm firmly on team j curr
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lol
https://twitter.com/rodger_sherman/status/934841845946945537
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In a clay trav v j curr cagematch I'm firmly on team j curr
We can’t lose!
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Shaping up to be a great weekend...
Cat's win in a thriller, a walkoff game winning touchdown.
Currie drops a turd, hiring a turd.
Hoping the Chiefs can learn how to stop crapping the bed....
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Clay Travis and Currie are not going to be besties.
RT @ClayTravis: Desperate times call for desperate measures. Make his phone blow up and voice your displeasure. https://t.co/RwNF1eZs2Z
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Love Clay! :love:
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:eek:
...the deal, if reached, would be worth upwards of $10M per season for Gruden, with another $8M per season reserved for the salaries of his staff.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jon-gruden-talking-to-tennessee-volunteers-about-coaching-vacancy/ (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jon-gruden-talking-to-tennessee-volunteers-about-coaching-vacancy/)
So colossally stupid. Come on, they aren't going to give that dude $10 million a year
stupid why?
it’s not currie’s money, it costs him nothing. he’s giving his fans what they want and putting money in his own pocket via 5 years+ of job security. if it doesn’t work, its’s gruden’s fault, not currie’s and no one would think otherwise
It's stupid because I'm guessing he can find someone more proven than Gruden for that much money. He needs to hire who he thinks is best for the job, not be bullied by idiots to do what they think is fun. If the search leads him to Gruden at $18 million a year then fine, but I'm guessing that wouldn't be necessary.
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Currie drops a turd, hiring a turd.
Schiano, whomever hires him, will be the second most successful college hire made this year. He was awesome at Rutgers and it wasn't with just smoke and mirrors, he got real NFL talent there. I wouldn't think a K-Stater would need to be reminded how good Rutgers was.
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Currie drops a turd, hiring a turd.
Schiano, whomever hires him, will be the second most successful college hire made this year. He was awesome at Rutgers and it wasn't with just smoke and mirrors, he got real NFL talent there. I wouldn't think a K-Stater would need to be reminded how good Rutgers was.
The K-State team they beat wasn't very good.
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https://twitter.com/JohnDBrice1/status/934865088435179520
https://twitter.com/JohnDBrice1/status/934863606885298177
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Currie drops a turd, hiring a turd.
Schiano, whomever hires him, will be the second most successful college hire made this year. He was awesome at Rutgers and it wasn't with just smoke and mirrors, he got real NFL talent there. I wouldn't think a K-Stater would need to be reminded how good Rutgers was.
The K-State team they beat wasn't very good.
Yeah, and they beat the holy hell out of us.
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https://twitter.com/JohnDBrice1/status/934865088435179520
https://twitter.com/JohnDBrice1/status/934863606885298177
The best part of this is that those morons, led by Clay Travis, lack the self awareness to see what everyone else can; they are the problem, not the solution.
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No words for what is happening in Knoxville. Tragic day for Tennessee if this happens. Holding out hope that social media will stop it from happening.
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Rep. Jason Zachary
Rep. Jason Zachary
@JasonZacharyTN
I have reached out to @John_Currie and others in administration at UT expressing that WE as a TN Community do not approve of Schiano. #higherstandards
2:28 PM · Nov 26, 2017 from Farrag
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No words for what is happening in Knoxville. Tragic day for Tennessee if this happens. Holding out hope that social media will stop it from happening.
Rep. Jason Zachary
Rep. Jason Zachary
@JasonZacharyTN
I have reached out to @John_Currie and others in administration at UT expressing that WE as a TN Community do not approve of Schiano. #higherstandards
2:28 PM · Nov 26, 2017 from Farrag
LOL, see :lol:
When we complain about how much we don't like K-State fans, please remember this crap show
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The only crap show is John Currie.
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Their last three coaches were
Lane Kiffin, who ran his ass out of there the first second he could
Derek Dooley
Butch Jones
Who in the world do they think they are? They want John Currie to turn water to wine. Someone like Pete or Wacky should point this out to Clay Travis.
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Pulling out the big guns.
https://twitter.com/Brandon_SV/status/934887188621398019
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https://twitter.com/madisenkeavy/status/934887202429046784
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I know it was Rutgers, but he finished the season ranked just once in his coaching career there and his team quit on him in the NFL. I do think Tennessee is a bit better than Schiano. Just my opinion.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/07/12/greg-schiano-tom-bradley-knew-of-jerry-sandusky-abuse-at-penn-state-documents-show/
Former Penn State assistant coaches Greg Schiano and Tom Bradley knew that Jerry Sandusky, their colleague on Joe Paterno’s football staff, was acting improperly with young boys years before law-enforcement authorities were first notified, according to testimony from former Penn State assistant Mike McQueary that was unsealed Tuesday by a Philadelphia court.
McQueary, who testified in Sandusky’s 2012 criminal case that he had told Paterno of seeing Sandusky rape a boy in 2001, said in the 2015 deposition that he had “briefly” discussed with Bradley what he had seen.
“He said another assistant coach had come to him in the early ’90s about a very similar situation to mine, and he said that he had — someone had come to him as far back as early as the ’80s about seeing Jerry Sandusky doing something with a boy,” McQueary said.
According to McQueary, Bradley identified Schiano, now the Ohio State defensive coordinator, as the other assistant. In response to a question about whether Bradley had shared details of what Schiano had said, McQueary related a conversation with Bradley.
“No,” McQueary replied, according to the documents, “only that he had — I can’t remember if it was one night or one morning — but that Greg had come into his office white as a ghost and said he just saw Jerry doing something to a boy in the shower. And that’s it. That’s all he ever told me.”
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If the objection is the Penn State stuff, that's completely fair but let's not act like you guys wouldn't act like this if the hire wasn't anyone but Gruden.
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I think now is the perfect opportunity for Dana Dimel to step in and solve this pickle.
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If Currie was willing to deal with rape he shoulda went with Briles
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https://twitter.com/LanaDelRaytheon/status/934905909603532800
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Currie drops a turd, hiring a turd.
Schiano, whomever hires him, will be the second most successful college hire made this year. He was awesome at Rutgers and it wasn't with just smoke and mirrors, he got real NFL talent there. I wouldn't think a K-Stater would need to be reminded how good Rutgers was.
If I recall, key to Schiano's success was his ability to hold camps all summer long in Florida to tap into the recruiting down there in a big way. That elevated Rutgers in regard to speed and talent in their lesser conference quite quickly.
As a result of that tactic, the NCAA no longer allows a school to go this massive camp route far from home. In addition, he will be trying to elevate talent to compete in a much tougher conference.
Not saying he will fail. But the hire isn't a slam dunk, either.
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I know that Campbell buyout is no small number but the idea that Tennessee can’t pay that is absurd. Also most buyouts get negotiated down to a lower number
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Also I think Campbell would be a better hire than Schiano
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If the objection is the Penn State stuff, that's completely fair but let's not act like you guys wouldn't act like this if the hire wasn't anyone but Gruden.
I recall Schiano having his guys cause fights when the other team would kneel down, and Peyton supposedly cussed him out after that. I also recall during his time in Tampa Bay, there was a MRSA break-out. And I also hear that he is a 100% pure unadulterated grade A+ bad person.
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https://twitter.com/JMartOutkick/status/934870780256636931
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:eek:
...the deal, if reached, would be worth upwards of $10M per season for Gruden, with another $8M per season reserved for the salaries of his staff.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jon-gruden-talking-to-tennessee-volunteers-about-coaching-vacancy/ (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jon-gruden-talking-to-tennessee-volunteers-about-coaching-vacancy/)
So colossally stupid. Come on, they aren't going to give that dude $10 million a year
stupid why?
it’s not currie’s money, it costs him nothing. he’s giving his fans what they want and putting money in his own pocket via 5 years+ of job security. if it doesn’t work, its’s gruden’s fault, not currie’s and no one would think otherwise
It's stupid because I'm guessing he can find someone more proven than Gruden for that much money. He needs to hire who he thinks is best for the job, not be bullied by idiots to do what they think is fun. If the search leads him to Gruden at $18 million a year then fine, but I'm guessing that wouldn't be necessary.
more proven than the guy with 30 years of coaching experience, a super bowl ring, and the far and away number one choice of the fanbase. no. give them what they want and pay him their money, that’s how this should work.
this isn’t a complicated calculus
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Oh man.... these Twitter responses is just brutal.... :lol:
https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/11/26/16694474/tennessee-greg-schiano-hire-reaction
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I think the fan base and twitter is actually going to stop the hire. Amazing.
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I think the fan base and twitter is actually going to stop the hire. Amazing.
It really is something to behold.
https://twitter.com/danharralson/status/934896141380055040
https://twitter.com/haynesworthiii/status/934875264319967232
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I think the fan base and twitter is actually going to stop the hire. Amazing.
As it should. I wouldn't want that guy as our next HC in Manhattan. I'll take Sean over him any day.
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LMAO..Haynesworth "no disrespect to Greg Schiano" My friends and i have an understanding that as long as you say "no disrespect" you can say ANYTHING you want to/about them. You can imagine...it's basically identical to what Albert did here. Well played Albert.
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This whole thing from top to bottom :sdeek:
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I am enjoying the hell out of Currie getting blasted.
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I am enjoying the hell out of Currie getting blasted.
Totally
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Holy crap, why would anyone even consider that job? Possibly the 7th/8th best job in the conference and a completely unrealistic lunatic filled fan base.
Every not complete crap coach should stay they eff away.
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Holy crap, why would anyone even consider that job? Possibly the 7th/8th best job in the conference and a completely unrealistic lunatic filled fan base.
Every not complete crap coach should stay they eff away.
You just described every head coaching job in the SEC.
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If Schiano falls through, what are their options? Could be a disaster either way.
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White House getting involved now. :lol:
Following the lead of several Volunteer state politicians, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders made a scathing Facebook post on Sunday evening, criticizing the Volunteers for hiring someone who, according to testimony from former Penn State assistant Mike McQueary, was aware that Gerry Sandusky was abusing young as early as 2001.
https://247sports.com/Bolt/Sarah-Huckabee-Sanders-makes-scathing-Facebook-post-about-Greg-Schiano-111177850 (https://247sports.com/Bolt/Sarah-Huckabee-Sanders-makes-scathing-Facebook-post-about-Greg-Schiano-111177850)
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Amazing
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If Schiano falls through, what are their options? Could be a disaster either way.
Oh it's already a disaster either way. Pretty great to watch.
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Gary Parrish
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Jon Gruden could’ve put his wife’s cheerleading uniform on, accepted the Tennessee job, endorsed Roy Moore, and UT fans would not have been this mad.
5:40 PM · Nov 26, 2017
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Holy crap, did they really shut down the deal?
Clay Travis
Clay Travis
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Congrats to Tennessee fans for torpedoing the Greg Schiano hire. Would have been a disaster. Sick of incompetent administration making idiotic hires. Many better candidates available. Zero reason to hire Schiano.
6:03 PM · Nov 26, 2017
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http://www.knoxnews.com/story/sports/2017/11/26/greg-schiano-tennessee-vols-football-ut-vols-coaching-search/896229001/
Local businesses "banning" Greg
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UT fans now wanting Currie to be fired. This all seems so weirdly familiar....
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.knoxnews.com/amp/896194001
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Pete, chingon rigged this place up so that you can just have the tweet show up entirely here w/o cutting and pasting.
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Yeah, this has to be a no-win situation for Currie at this point.
Has to be shitting his pants right now.
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Pete, chingon rigged this place up so that you can just have the tweet show up entirely here w/o cutting and pasting.
:lol:
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good job, tennessee fans, you didn't wait and you didn't see.
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Pete, chingon rigged this place up so that you can just have the tweet show up entirely here w/o cutting and pasting.
:lol:
Tapatalk tho :(
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If Currie hires someone like Sumlin, it's all good (for a while, at least). I'm just skeptical that he will be willing or able. He really shpuld have locked up Mullen when he had the chance.
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Yeah, this has to be a no-win situation for Currie at this point.
Has to be shitting his pants right now.
Mary Lawrence has probably smoked a pack and a half today.
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Wait so like... We COULD have avoided Weber if we all would have just tweeted harder? :frown:
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Dude I tried.
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New rumors that Currie hired schiano two weeks ago and now that tenn is backing out, they'll owe him money. Please let this be true. Also clay travis called Currie a slapdick.
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Currie's got a soft landing spot in Pullman.
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If the objection is the Penn State stuff, that's completely fair but let's not act like you guys wouldn't act like this if the hire wasn't anyone but Gruden.
I recall Schiano having his guys cause fights when the other team would kneel down, and Peyton supposedly cussed him out after that. I also recall during his time in Tampa Bay, there was a MRSA break-out. And I also hear that he is a 100% pure unadulterated grade A+ bad person.
All truths, his biggest minus in my book is how he treated Josh Freeman
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:eek:
...the deal, if reached, would be worth upwards of $10M per season for Gruden, with another $8M per season reserved for the salaries of his staff.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jon-gruden-talking-to-tennessee-volunteers-about-coaching-vacancy/ (https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jon-gruden-talking-to-tennessee-volunteers-about-coaching-vacancy/)
So colossally stupid. Come on, they aren't going to give that dude $10 million a year
stupid why?
it’s not currie’s money, it costs him nothing. he’s giving his fans what they want and putting money in his own pocket via 5 years+ of job security. if it doesn’t work, its’s gruden’s fault, not currie’s and no one would think otherwise
It's stupid because I'm guessing he can find someone more proven than Gruden for that much money. He needs to hire who he thinks is best for the job, not be bullied by idiots to do what they think is fun. If the search leads him to Gruden at $18 million a year then fine, but I'm guessing that wouldn't be necessary.
more proven than the guy with 30 years of coaching experience, a super bowl ring, and the far and away number one choice of the fanbase. no. give them what they want and pay him their money, that’s how this should work.
this isn’t a complicated calculus
30 years coaching experience? I think we are on the same page, I don't necessarily think that Currie is stupid for doing that, I think it's stupid that he'd be forced to. Namely because it seems as if it would be bribing a guy to coach there who doesn't want to.
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What did he do to Freeman?
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How does UT let Currie go make the hire still? He totally mumped up the search and hire, and they might owe money to Schiano. Now you trust him to go out and make a good hire after all this? What a disaster
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What did he do to Freeman?
Freeman wasn’t a Schiano man so he treated him like crap, did things to make Freeman lose support in the locker room, and eventually benched him. Essentially ruined his whole career for not being one of his guys
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If Currie hires someone like Sumlin, it's all good (for a while, at least). I'm just skeptical that he will be willing or able. He really shpuld have locked up Mullen when he had the chance.
He didn't have a chance at Mullen or Sumlin, LOL. Do I need to post the list again?
Lane Kiffin
Derek Dooley
Butch Jones
They better go get Scott Satterfield or someone like that
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If the objection is the Penn State stuff, that's completely fair but let's not act like you guys wouldn't act like this if the hire wasn't anyone but Gruden.
I recall Schiano having his guys cause fights when the other team would kneel down, and Peyton supposedly cussed him out after that. I also recall during his time in Tampa Bay, there was a MRSA break-out. And I also hear that he is a 100% pure unadulterated grade A+ bad person.
All truths, his biggest minus in my book is how he treated Josh Freeman
Oh yeah, I completely forgot about that, and that he "allegedly" leaked the medical info on Freeman. Good catch.
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How does UT let Currie go make the hire still? He totally mumped up the search and hire, and they might owe money to Schiano. Now you trust him to go out and make a good hire after all this? What a disaster
I know you guys hate Currie but if this isn't a collective effort to eff this up, collective efforts don't exist. University President down to Billy in Pigeon Forge screwed this all the way up.
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New rumors that Currie hired schiano two weeks ago and now that tenn is backing out, they'll owe him money. Please let this be true. Also clay travis called Currie a slapdick.
OMG, is that real?
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Pete, chingon rigged this place up so that you can just have the tweet show up entirely here w/o cutting and pasting.
Tapatalk tho :(
Take the update, bro. Tweets show. :)
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How does UT let Currie go make the hire still? He totally mumped up the search and hire, and they might owe money to Schiano. Now you trust him to go out and make a good hire after all this? What a disaster
I know you guys hate Currie but if this isn't a collective effort to eff this up, collective efforts don't exist. University President down to Billy in Pigeon Forge screwed this all the way up.
Hes not alone in blame for the situation but he’s the one that will take the brunt of the fans anger and hate. Like the face of a scandal they are the one to get fired and blamed.
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https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/934937953100619777
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Pete, chingon rigged this place up so that you can just have the tweet show up entirely here w/o cutting and pasting.
Tapatalk tho :(
Take the update, bro. Tweets show. :)
My goodness, this is quite an improvement!
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Currie did some nice things for KSU...very successful from the fund raising/facilities standpoint, but jeezus does it feel good for him to be getting his crap handed to him for what he did to Frank and our bball program
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https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/934946704004173824
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https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/934950262799613952
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Can we all be honest here....UT fans don't give 2 shits about Schiano's involvement (or lack thereof) at Penn State. If he had the same history but his name was Saban or Meyer, they wouldn't say one word about it and would be overjoyed with the hire. They're pissed because he's a retread just like Oscar.
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https://twitter.com/Mark_Schlabach/status/934951279268384768
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https://twitter.com/FootballScoop/status/934952413978615809
:excited: :ksu: :billdance:
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Currie did some nice things for KSU...very successful from the fund raising/facilities standpoint, but jeezus does it feel good for him to be getting his crap handed to him for what he did to Frank and our bball program
Agreed. Highly competent at everything AD is supposed to do that is not related to dealing with head coaches of important programs.
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Can we all be honest here....UT fans don't give 2 shits about Schiano's involvement (or lack thereof) at Penn State. If he had the same history but his name was Saban or Meyer, they wouldn't say one word about it and would be overjoyed with the hire. They're pissed because he's a retread just like Oscar.
Yep. Too bad we didn't have any dirt on Weber.
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This is ridiculously funny. How in the hell does Currie escape this?
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https://twitter.com/BarrettSallee/status/934954073077551104
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:pray:
Let's hope that the stigma of "John Currie hire" finds it's way to Manhattan as well.
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Finebaum is shitting all over Currie on ESPN right now.
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Finebaum is shitting all over Currie on ESPN right now.
Dear god, is there a recording?
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john currie: hmmm it says here that greg schiano went 68-67 at rutgers, i’m intrigued -he sounds like our guy
:confused:
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https://twitter.com/BradJonesBBBTV/status/934940318566436865
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What's the line item called on John Currie's pocket income statement card for the Schiano payments?
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https://twitter.com/Michael_Carvell/status/934957696243159040
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https://twitter.com/BradJonesBBBTV/status/934940318566436865
OH Sweet Jesus.....
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SEC! SEC! SEC!
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Clay Travis is so awful i can't enjoy this as much as I'd like.
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https://twitter.com/BradJonesBBBTV/status/934940318566436865
reports....But only speculation on this. Fox Sports Knoxville mentioned this.
:flush:
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UT won't have to pay him jack crap, but it's still so LOL.
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UT won't have to pay him jack crap, but it's still so LOL.
If a MOU was signed, a good lawyer will get SOMETHING out of UT.
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https://twitter.com/AllKindsWeather/status/934957713909538816
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https://twitter.com/EvilKirbySmart/status/934956997409157121
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https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/934952930926628864
Tennessee has backed out of a memorandum of understanding with Ohio State defensive coordinator Greg Schiano to be the Volunteers' next football coach, sources told ESPN's Chris Low.
The memorandum of understanding was signed by both parties Sunday in Columbus, Ohio, and the school had planned to introduce Schiano at a news conference Sunday night.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21579125/tennessee-volunteers-no-longer-hire-greg-schiano-head-coach
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Great day in Big Orange Country! John Currie will not be the AD at the end of the week imo. That will also be great!
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https://twitter.com/FootballScoop/status/934955406169989120
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Congratulations of finally getting your dream job John. I'm sure it was a year full of memories :cheers:
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This is so great....
It's like watching the Hindenburg and the Titanic disasters unfolding at the same time, but I just can't stop watching.
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Great day in Big Orange Country! John Currie will not be the AD at the end of the week imo. That will also be great!
after what your fanbase did to he and schiano, i’m sure it will be quite easy to fill both positions
good luck with that
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Finebaum is shitting all over Currie on ESPN right now.
Dear god, is there a recording?
Try this one. It catches most of it.
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21579375
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https://twitter.com/FootballScoop/status/934955735951335424
https://twitter.com/zach_barnett/status/934956585209745408
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Maybe Tennessee should just get rid of the AD position and make all AD decisions based on Twitter polls.
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Great day in Big Orange Country! John Currie will not be the AD at the end of the week imo. That will also be great!
after what your fanbase did to he and schiano, i’m sure it will be quite easy to fill both positions
good luck with that
Yes at least we stood by quietly while he ruined our basketball program and would have ruined our football program (given the chance). Just bend over and bite the pillow like we did UT fans!
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I’ve now moved the UT job from the 8th best to the 14th ranked job in the SEC. What a joke they are.
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What we will never know for sure, is whether Schiano was Currie's pick for KSU as well. AD's have a "short list," right? Would this have been who we would have gotten if Snyder had stepped down before Currie departed?
There is no way in hell the KSU community would have mustered the outrage that the UT community gathered in such a short period of time. KSU fans would have definitely just taken it.
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I’m Lol’ing, but I’ve never heard a peep about Schiano and Sandusky, and now several reporters are saying there was never really anything to it.
Lol’ing at Currie, hate to see someone who may have done nothing wrong get skewered on social media.
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What we will never know for sure, is whether Schiano was Currie's pick for KSU as well. AD's have a "short list," right? Would this have been who we would have gotten if Snyder had stepped down before Currie departed?
There is no way in hell the KSU community would have mustered the outrage that the UT community gathered in such a short period of time. KSU fans would have definitely just taken it.
You're probably right, however, I would be less than pleased because of his questionable checkered past with the Penn State stuff and the Tampa stuff as well, and I would be doing whatever I could to convince others that this is just a bad hire all around.
It's funny, other than him, is there any other coaches that is allegedly linked to the PSU stuff, that is actively coaching at the moment?
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What we will never know for sure, is whether Schiano was Currie's pick for KSU as well. AD's have a "short list," right? Would this have been who we would have gotten if Snyder had stepped down before Currie departed?
There is no way in hell the KSU community would have mustered the outrage that the UT community gathered in such a short period of time. KSU fans would have definitely just taken it.
I'm assuming you mean for this to sound like a bad thing for KSU, but I'm really not too sure given that no one is jealous of Tennessee's fanbase right now.
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Great day in Big Orange Country! John Currie will not be the AD at the end of the week imo. That will also be great!
after what your fanbase did to he and schiano, i’m sure it will be quite easy to fill both positions
good luck with that
Yes at least we stood by quietly while he ruined our basketball program and would have ruined our football program (given the chance). Just bend over and bite the pillow like we did UT fans!
Can anyone confirm.were the big money donors at UT completely out if the loop on this? Still trying to comprehend that a massive Twitter rant moved the needle on this hire?
Tom
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I’m Lol’ing, but I’ve never heard a peep about Schiano and Sandusky, and now several reporters are saying there was never really anything to it.
Lol’ing at Currie, hate to see someone who may have done nothing wrong get skewered on social media.
The problem is, while there may never really anything into it, it was testified, under oath that he knew of the situation and didn't do anything.
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I’m Lol’ing, but I’ve never heard a peep about Schiano and Sandusky, and now several reporters are saying there was never really anything to it.
Lol’ing at Currie, hate to see someone who may have done nothing wrong get skewered on social media.
Really? C'mon. He's getting skewered because Schiano is a incredibly shitty pick for a place like Tennessee...or anywhere that wants to win. The Sandusky crap is just sanctimonious bullshit.
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I’m Lol’ing, but I’ve never heard a peep about Schiano and Sandusky, and now several reporters are saying there was never really anything to it.
Lol’ing at Currie, hate to see someone who may have done nothing wrong get skewered on social media.
The problem is, while there may never really anything into it, it was testified, under oath that he knew of the situation and didn't do anything.
Okay, hadn’t seen or heard that.
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I’m Lol’ing, but I’ve never heard a peep about Schiano and Sandusky, and now several reporters are saying there was never really anything to it.
Lol’ing at Currie, hate to see someone who may have done nothing wrong get skewered on social media.
Really? C'mon. He's getting skewered because Schiano is a incredibly shitty pick for a place like Tennessee...or anywhere that wants to win. The Sandusky crap is just sanctimonious bullshit.
Okay
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What we will never know for sure, is whether Schiano was Currie's pick for KSU as well. AD's have a "short list," right? Would this have been who we would have gotten if Snyder had stepped down before Currie departed?
There is no way in hell the KSU community would have mustered the outrage that the UT community gathered in such a short period of time. KSU fans would have definitely just taken it.
I'm assuming you mean for this to sound like a bad thing for KSU, but I'm really not too sure given that no one is jealous of Tennessee's fanbase right now.
I'm honestly neutral on it. It's both good an bad. Mostly though, we will take anything and like it.
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I’m Lol’ing, but I’ve never heard a peep about Schiano and Sandusky, and now several reporters are saying there was never really anything to it.
Lol’ing at Currie, hate to see someone who may have done nothing wrong get skewered on social media.
The problem is, while there may never really anything into it, it was testified, under oath that he knew of the situation and didn't do anything.
Okay, hadn’t seen or heard that.
Let me see if I can find it.
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Regardless of any of the "facts," this is likely to be remembered as one of the biggest eff ups in athletic administration history, right? I mean, holy cow.
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What we will never know for sure, is whether Schiano was Currie's pick for KSU as well. AD's have a "short list," right? Would this have been who we would have gotten if Snyder had stepped down before Currie departed?
There is no way in hell the KSU community would have mustered the outrage that the UT community gathered in such a short period of time. KSU fans would have definitely just taken it.
You're probably right, however, I would be less than pleased because of his questionable checkered past with the Penn State stuff and the Tampa stuff as well, and I would be doing whatever I could to convince others that this is just a bad hire all around.
It's funny, other than him, is there any other coaches that is allegedly linked to the PSU stuff, that is actively coaching at the moment?
Whether he did know or not, the guy seems like a massive dick that literally no one likes as a person. They just had that with Butch Jones. To me, the outrage somewhat makes sense. I’m still trying to understand why Tennessee tagged him of all people as the guy
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I’m Lol’ing, but I’ve never heard a peep about Schiano and Sandusky, and now several reporters are saying there was never really anything to it.
Lol’ing at Currie, hate to see someone who may have done nothing wrong get skewered on social media.
The problem is, while there may never really anything into it, it was testified, under oath that he knew of the situation and didn't do anything.
Okay, hadn’t seen or heard that.
Let me see if I can find it.
This explains it pretty well.
https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/934946704004173824
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I’m Lol’ing, but I’ve never heard a peep about Schiano and Sandusky, and now several reporters are saying there was never really anything to it.
Lol’ing at Currie, hate to see someone who may have done nothing wrong get skewered on social media.
The problem is, while there may never really anything into it, it was testified, under oath that he knew of the situation and didn't do anything.
Okay, hadn’t seen or heard that.
Here you go Dax.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/07/12/greg-schiano-tom-bradley-knew-of-jerry-sandusky-abuse-at-penn-state-documents-show/?utm_term=.310aad4d7a04
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What we will never know for sure, is whether Schiano was Currie's pick for KSU as well. AD's have a "short list," right? Would this have been who we would have gotten if Snyder had stepped down before Currie departed?
There is no way in hell the KSU community would have mustered the outrage that the UT community gathered in such a short period of time. KSU fans would have definitely just taken it.
You're probably right, however, I would be less than pleased because of his questionable checkered past with the Penn State stuff and the Tampa stuff as well, and I would be doing whatever I could to convince others that this is just a bad hire all around.
It's funny, other than him, is there any other coaches that is allegedly linked to the PSU stuff, that is actively coaching at the moment?
Whether he did know or not, the guy seems like a massive dick that literally no one likes as a person. They just had that with Butch Jones. To me, the outrage somewhat makes sense. I’m still trying to understand why Tennessee tagged him of all people as the guy
https://twitter.com/TJMoe28/status/934860201185959936
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Some on twitter are now talking about how there are beginnings of student grumblings at OSU about Schiano. Poor bastard might be unemployable in college for a while, all because of how this UT thing went down.
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I didn't know or had forgotten about any Sandusky ties, but had been under the impression he was unhireable as a head coach because of what players and peers thought of him, mostly from his NFL stint. That made him a perfect fit to be somebody so desperate for a HC gig that he'd work for Currie.
The desired coaches (Kelly, Mullen, Frost, others?) wanted nothing to do with Currie. Agree that the outrage over Sandusky things is cover for being mad they were shunned by anyone considered good.
So there was already all that. And after today, every part of tennessee is going to be considered even more toxic by prospects.
I love it.
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Regardless of any of the "facts," this is likely to be remembered as one of the biggest eff ups in athletic administration history, right? I mean, holy cow.
Yeah, I mean, it may be nothing, but if an individuals name is mentioned, under oath, in court, that should be a major red flag. And really, how can they settle for this guy, who was "below average" in Rutgers, and his satellite camps would now be illegal?
I mean, there are far better young coaches that they could had reached out. Like Neal Brown from Troy. Hell, Matt Campbell would be a great hire because of what he did in Toledo and his one year in ISU. There are more that I'm forgetting off of my head.
But I'm more inclined to believe that the real problem is Currie if we were to believe that the understanding he formed a list of 1. Gruden 2. Frost 3. Mullen and Schiano was the emergency option... and 1 to 3 told him to get bent.
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I’m Lol’ing, but I’ve never heard a peep about Schiano and Sandusky, and now several reporters are saying there was never really anything to it.
Lol’ing at Currie, hate to see someone who may have done nothing wrong get skewered on social media.
The problem is, while there may never really anything into it, it was testified, under oath that he knew of the situation and didn't do anything.
Okay, hadn’t seen or heard that.
Here you go Dax.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/07/12/greg-schiano-tom-bradley-knew-of-jerry-sandusky-abuse-at-penn-state-documents-show/?utm_term=.310aad4d7a04
Thanks
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Some on twitter are now talking about how there are beginnings of student grumblings at OSU about Schiano. Poor bastard might be unemployable in college for a while, all because of how this UT thing went down.
Tough crap, OSU students. You accepted him and are stuck with him.
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Currie could be having a really good life in Manhattan right now if he'd simply stayed out of the sports/human stuff and let those things win and point to them and ask rich people for money. His dumb letters and hardhat tweets would've been ignored.
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Trim is right
https://twitter.com/SwinfordAdam/status/934955434011774977
https://twitter.com/Russell___Smith/status/934972669463859200
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Currie could be having a really good life in Manhattan right now if he'd simply stayed out of the sports/human stuff and let those things win and point to them and ask rich people for money. His dumb letters and hardhat tweets would've been ignored.
If he just would have left frank alone he’d still be fine here
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The "call Snyder" thing cannot be ignored here. Totally agree with Trim.
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Like I said, I had no awareness (or interest) in Schiano pre Rutgers (and post Rutgers) and truly had no idea he was at PSU.
Apparently Currie didn’t either. In some things are similar yet different fashion: I’m just a dude with no agenda (but I will neither confirm nor deny that I’m a POS). John Currie is a hyperactive control freak P5 AD with an agenda.
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I'm really not too sure given that no one is jealous of Tennessee's fanbase right now.
any kstate fan worthy of the name is incredibly jealous.
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Can we all be honest here....UT fans don't give 2 shits about Schiano's involvement (or lack thereof) at Penn State. If he had the same history but his name was Saban or Meyer, they wouldn't say one word about it and would be overjoyed with the hire. They're pissed because he's a retread just like Oscar.
When they were still on board with Butch Jones they had nothing at all to say about Jones calling a player who reported a sexual assault a traitor and that same player getting beat up in the UT locker room. These people are all shitbags willing to be led into embarrassment by Clay Travis. I hope they end up with Bo Pelini.
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Great day in Big Orange Country! John Currie will not be the AD at the end of the week imo. That will also be great!
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Currie could be having a really good life in Manhattan right now if he'd simply stayed out of the sports/human stuff and let those things win and point to them and ask rich people for money. His dumb letters and hardhat tweets would've been ignored.
Totally 100% agreed. If he would had left Frank and Bill alone during his time here, do his job, and raise money, he would have been a great AD, and I would be fine with that.
Unfortunately, his ego got the best of him.
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Great day in Big Orange Country! John Currie will not be the AD at the end of the week imo. That will also be great!
after what your fanbase did to he and schiano, i’m sure it will be quite easy to fill both positions
good luck with that
Yes at least we stood by quietly while he ruined our basketball program and would have ruined our football program (given the chance). Just bend over and bite the pillow like we did UT fans!
Ruined our basketball program is amazingly dramatic at best, a outright lie at worst. We have a squeaky voiced dork for a basketball coach, any other issues?
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What we will never know for sure, is whether Schiano was Currie's pick for KSU as well. AD's have a "short list," right? Would this have been who we would have gotten if Snyder had stepped down before Currie departed?
There is no way in hell the KSU community would have mustered the outrage that the UT community gathered in such a short period of time. KSU fans would have definitely just taken it.
crap man, all you have to do is perform a search on this site for Schiano's name just last year. I don't recall hardly anyone having serious objection to his name being brought up. It went from yes to meh.
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I’m not sure I’m all that upset with Currie trying to stand up to Snyder a bit. A school can’t let this annual “Vatican Smoke” bullshit go on forever.
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Great day in Big Orange Country! John Currie will not be the AD at the end of the week imo. That will also be great!
after what your fanbase did to he and schiano, i’m sure it will be quite easy to fill both positions
good luck with that
Yes at least we stood by quietly while he ruined our basketball program and would have ruined our football program (given the chance). Just bend over and bite the pillow like we did UT fans!
Can anyone confirm.were the big money donors at UT completely out if the loop on this? Still trying to comprehend that a massive Twitter rant moved the needle on this hire?
Tom
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Of course they did, this is twitter outrage gone amok, grats to Clay, white people love him way more than I thought.
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We haven't made it to the first weekend of the NCAA tournament since Currie forced frank out. Ruined is an overstatement, but Currie definitely seemed to go out of his way to make it worse which a really weird stance for an athletic director to take.
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Great day in Big Orange Country! John Currie will not be the AD at the end of the week imo. That will also be great!
after what your fanbase did to he and schiano, i’m sure it will be quite easy to fill both positions
good luck with that
Yes at least we stood by quietly while he ruined our basketball program and would have ruined our football program (given the chance). Just bend over and bite the pillow like we did UT fans!
Can anyone confirm.were the big money donors at UT completely out if the loop on this? Still trying to comprehend that a massive Twitter rant moved the needle on this hire?
Tom
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Of course they did, this is twitter outrage gone amok, grats to Clay, white people love him way more than I thought.
Still laugh at his “The SEC is gonna make eleventy billion dollars and leave everyone in the dust” Bullshit.
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I sat with our biggest donor at K-State yesterday. Snyder's plan was to out last Currie, now the donors want to out last Bill at this point. If Bill is back next year, they're done. Let's not act like we dodged a bullet here.
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We haven't made it to the first weekend of the NCAA tournament since Currie forced frank out. Ruined is an overstatement, but Currie definitely seemed to go out of his way to make it worse which a really weird stance for an athletic director to take.
Yep.
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Today might be the most relevant that KStateMBB has been since 2012, and only because Currie's name is in the news for this and it's being noted that his prior claim to fame is running Frank.
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Great day in Big Orange Country! John Currie will not be the AD at the end of the week imo. That will also be great!
after what your fanbase did to he and schiano, i’m sure it will be quite easy to fill both positions
good luck with that
Yes at least we stood by quietly while he ruined our basketball program and would have ruined our football program (given the chance). Just bend over and bite the pillow like we did UT fans!
except that’s not the point
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I’m Lol’ing, but I’ve never heard a peep about Schiano and Sandusky, and now several reporters are saying there was never really anything to it.
Lol’ing at Currie, hate to see someone who may have done nothing wrong get skewered on social media.
The problem is, while there may never really anything into it, it was testified, under oath that he knew of the situation and didn't do anything.
Okay, hadn’t seen or heard that.
Here you go Dax.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/07/12/greg-schiano-tom-bradley-knew-of-jerry-sandusky-abuse-at-penn-state-documents-show/?utm_term=.310aad4d7a04
I sure in the eff hope you don't think this
“No,” McQueary replied, according to the documents, “only that he had — I can’t remember if it was one night or one morning — but that Greg had come into his office white as a ghost and said he just saw Jerry doing something to a boy in the shower. And that’s it. That’s all he ever told me.”
justifies the bullshit the Tennessee fans are doing or worth ruining the careers of Currie and Schiano.
The DA didn't deem it necessary to get Bradley or Schiano on record, under oath. These people are labeling this guy an enabler to a pedophile all because they didn't want him as a football coach. It's rough ridin' gross, Salem witch and McCarthyism type stuff, people should be outraged but everyone is cool with this because it's funny on twitter.
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This couldn't have happened to a nicer guy than John C Currie
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https://twitter.com/TonyPaul1984/status/934980441240752128
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I’m Lol’ing, but I’ve never heard a peep about Schiano and Sandusky, and now several reporters are saying there was never really anything to it.
Lol’ing at Currie, hate to see someone who may have done nothing wrong get skewered on social media.
The problem is, while there may never really anything into it, it was testified, under oath that he knew of the situation and didn't do anything.
Okay, hadn’t seen or heard that.
Here you go Dax.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/07/12/greg-schiano-tom-bradley-knew-of-jerry-sandusky-abuse-at-penn-state-documents-show/?utm_term=.310aad4d7a04
I sure in the eff hope you don't think this
“No,” McQueary replied, according to the documents, “only that he had — I can’t remember if it was one night or one morning — but that Greg had come into his office white as a ghost and said he just saw Jerry doing something to a boy in the shower. And that’s it. That’s all he ever told me.”
justifies the bullshit the Tennessee fans are doing or worth ruining the careers of Currie and Schiano.
The DA didn't deem it necessary to get Bradley or Schiano on record, under oath. These people are labeling this guy an enabler to a pedophile all because they didn't want him as a football coach. It's rough ridin' gross, Salem witch and McCarthyism type stuff, people should be outraged but everyone is cool with this because it's funny on twitter.
The problem is, Schiano just submitted a PR move, denied it, and moved on. If he really felt like he was being defamed, then he should have gone after Mike McQueary.
He didn't.
And this was a bad judgement by Currie. I would bet you that if said coach was NOT allegedly linked to this scandal, this would have been moot.
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Yeah, I'm no Schiano fan but the guy is getting the worst of this whole ordeal for no reason other than he answered Curries call.
https://twitter.com/DanWetzel/status/934965508872507392
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I’m Lol’ing, but I’ve never heard a peep about Schiano and Sandusky, and now several reporters are saying there was never really anything to it.
Lol’ing at Currie, hate to see someone who may have done nothing wrong get skewered on social media.
The problem is, while there may never really anything into it, it was testified, under oath that he knew of the situation and didn't do anything.
Okay, hadn’t seen or heard that.
Here you go Dax.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/07/12/greg-schiano-tom-bradley-knew-of-jerry-sandusky-abuse-at-penn-state-documents-show/?utm_term=.310aad4d7a04
I sure in the eff hope you don't think this
“No,” McQueary replied, according to the documents, “only that he had — I can’t remember if it was one night or one morning — but that Greg had come into his office white as a ghost and said he just saw Jerry doing something to a boy in the shower. And that’s it. That’s all he ever told me.”
justifies the bullshit the Tennessee fans are doing or worth ruining the careers of Currie and Schiano.
The DA didn't deem it necessary to get Bradley or Schiano on record, under oath. These people are labeling this guy an enabler to a pedophile all because they didn't want him as a football coach. It's rough ridin' gross, Salem witch and McCarthyism type stuff, people should be outraged but everyone is cool with this because it's funny on twitter.
The problem is, Schiano just submitted a PR move, denied it, and moved on. If he really felt like he was being defamed, then he should have gone after Mike McQueary.
He didn't.
Sometimes that’s the best move if you truly did nothing wrong. Why belabor a chowder keg?
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He's been ranked one time at the end of a college football season in his life. He wasn't eligible for the job, but there's a reason why ppl hate him and he's been out of work.
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Also, schiano wasn't even close to .500 in the big east while he was at Rutgers. You can't hire that guy if you are the UT AD and Currie is a rough ridin' idiot for not knowing that. this went about as well as anyone could've predicted.
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Great day in Big Orange Country! John Currie will not be the AD at the end of the week imo. That will also be great!
after what your fanbase did to he and schiano, i’m sure it will be quite easy to fill both positions
good luck with that
Yes at least we stood by quietly while he ruined our basketball program and would have ruined our football program (given the chance). Just bend over and bite the pillow like we did UT fans!
Ruined our basketball program is amazingly dramatic at best, a outright lie at worst. We have a squeaky voiced dork for a basketball coach, any other issues?
We don't have Frank :dunno:
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Well, the one thing that we can all agree on here is that John Currie is probably mumped, regardless of any of our thoughts on whether this is ethically right or wrong. He's probably mumped.
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*whistles*
https://twitter.com/knoxvillerace/status/934980170829783040
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Well, the one thing that we can all agree on here is that John Currie is probably mumped, regardless of any of our thoughts on whether this is ethically right or wrong. He's probably definitely mumped.
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I’m Lol’ing, but I’ve never heard a peep about Schiano and Sandusky, and now several reporters are saying there was never really anything to it.
Lol’ing at Currie, hate to see someone who may have done nothing wrong get skewered on social media.
The problem is, while there may never really anything into it, it was testified, under oath that he knew of the situation and didn't do anything.
Okay, hadn’t seen or heard that.
Here you go Dax.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/07/12/greg-schiano-tom-bradley-knew-of-jerry-sandusky-abuse-at-penn-state-documents-show/?utm_term=.310aad4d7a04
I sure in the eff hope you don't think this
“No,” McQueary replied, according to the documents, “only that he had — I can’t remember if it was one night or one morning — but that Greg had come into his office white as a ghost and said he just saw Jerry doing something to a boy in the shower. And that’s it. That’s all he ever told me.”
justifies the bullshit the Tennessee fans are doing or worth ruining the careers of Currie and Schiano.
The DA didn't deem it necessary to get Bradley or Schiano on record, under oath. These people are labeling this guy an enabler to a pedophile all because they didn't want him as a football coach. It's rough ridin' gross, Salem witch and McCarthyism type stuff, people should be outraged but everyone is cool with this because it's funny on twitter.
The problem is, Schiano just submitted a PR move, denied it, and moved on. If he really felt like he was being defamed, then he should have gone after Mike McQueary.
He didn't.
Sometimes that’s the best move if you truly did nothing wrong. Why belabor a chowder keg?
If you were not having any aspirations of being a HC in a P5 school, I would agree with you on that. However, it was just poor judgement decisions all around.
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*whistles*
https://twitter.com/knoxvillerace/status/934980170829783040
I'm extremely jealous of Tennessee. Our fans and administration were cowards, relatively
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*whistles*
https://twitter.com/knoxvillerace/status/934980170829783040
Amazing. Laird Vetch wouldn't have had the guts to do that, would he?
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*whistles*
https://twitter.com/knoxvillerace/status/934980170829783040
I'm extremely jealous of Tennessee. Our fans and administration were cowards, relatively
Totes
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I’m Lol’ing, but I’ve never heard a peep about Schiano and Sandusky, and now several reporters are saying there was never really anything to it.
Lol’ing at Currie, hate to see someone who may have done nothing wrong get skewered on social media.
The problem is, while there may never really anything into it, it was testified, under oath that he knew of the situation and didn't do anything.
Okay, hadn’t seen or heard that.
Here you go Dax.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/07/12/greg-schiano-tom-bradley-knew-of-jerry-sandusky-abuse-at-penn-state-documents-show/?utm_term=.310aad4d7a04
I sure in the eff hope you don't think this
“No,” McQueary replied, according to the documents, “only that he had — I can’t remember if it was one night or one morning — but that Greg had come into his office white as a ghost and said he just saw Jerry doing something to a boy in the shower. And that’s it. That’s all he ever told me.”
justifies the bullshit the Tennessee fans are doing or worth ruining the careers of Currie and Schiano.
The DA didn't deem it necessary to get Bradley or Schiano on record, under oath. These people are labeling this guy an enabler to a pedophile all because they didn't want him as a football coach. It's rough ridin' gross, Salem witch and McCarthyism type stuff, people should be outraged but everyone is cool with this because it's funny on twitter.
The problem is, Schiano just submitted a PR move, denied it, and moved on. If he really felt like he was being defamed, then he should have gone after Mike McQueary.
He didn't.
And this was a bad judgement by Currie. I would bet you that if said coach was NOT allegedly linked to this scandal, this would have been moot.
Gone after McQueary for what? Retelling a story that was supposedly told to him? What exactly does going after him look like?
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I wonder if John knows how mumped he is?
Obviously his colleagues were not fans of his, and weren't at KSU.
I wonder if he has any understanding at all of what his part in this was? I see him as someone who is exceptionally dishonest with himself.
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Well, the one thing that we can all agree on here is that John Currie is probably mumped, regardless of any of our thoughts on whether this is ethically right or wrong. He's probably mumped.
Ethically, big-picture, it's right. Karma or something.
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He's been ranked one time at the end of a college football season in his life. He wasn't eligible for the job, but there's a reason why ppl hate him and he's been out of work.
Also, schiano wasn't even close to .500 in the big east while he was at Rutgers. You can't hire that guy if you are the UT AD and Currie is a rough ridin' idiot for not knowing that. this went about as well as anyone could've predicted.
Well, the one thing that we can all agree on here is that John Currie is probably mumped, regardless of any of our thoughts on whether this is ethically right or wrong. He's probably mumped.
This is all truth. I tried to justify Schiano for football reasons last year and earlier today, I was dead wrong for that and Currie should have done better.
The enabler stuff is bullshit.
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I wonder if John knows how mumped he is?
Obviously his colleagues were not fans of his, and weren't at KSU.
I wonder if he has any understanding at all of what his part in this was? I see him as someone who is exceptionally dishonest with himself.
His brain should be analyzed after death similar to what's done with football players suspected of having CTE.
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I agree
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This is nothing short of amazing.
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Looks like college football media outside of Tennessee are dragging Clay and Tennessee fans. This is best possible result here, treat them like the lepers they are, rough ridin' creeps.
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He's been ranked one time at the end of a college football season in his life. He wasn't eligible for the job, but there's a reason why ppl hate him and he's been out of work.
Also, schiano wasn't even close to .500 in the big east while he was at Rutgers. You can't hire that guy if you are the UT AD and Currie is a rough ridin' idiot for not knowing that. this went about as well as anyone could've predicted.
Well, the one thing that we can all agree on here is that John Currie is probably mumped, regardless of any of our thoughts on whether this is ethically right or wrong. He's probably mumped.
This is all truth. I tried to justify Schiano for football reasons last year and earlier today, I was dead wrong for that and Currie should have done better.
The enabler stuff is bullshit.
Yeah absolutely, but the UT fans saw their opening and took it. Again I feel like I could've predicted this if someone would've told me five days ago that schiano would've been the guy. Not the part about them getting Currie to back out of the deal, but the overall reaction and them using the pedophile stuff absolutely. That's where Currie is a dumbass though. He doesn't get it. He just doesn't. There is a disconnect with him and his job and what it is that he's actually getting paid to do. He won't be there in five years. crap he might not even be there in five weeks.
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Is the Washington State job open? He really should be working for the NCAA though.
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Is the Washington State job open? He really should be working for the NCAA though.
It is. I joked Saturday about the Leach to Tennessee rumors in that why would Leach escape Schulz only to go to Currie. Then I joked about Tennessee trading Currie for Leach so that everyone's where and with who they want.
It would still work.
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I'm amazed even at that list, Les Miles isn't on that list of the coach search.
He has SEC pedigree. Has connections to the LA recruiting grounds. Granted, his offenses is severely outdated, but damn, his defenses were elite.
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I wonder who Phillip Fulmer would hire?
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He's been ranked one time at the end of a college football season in his life. He wasn't eligible for the job, but there's a reason why ppl hate him and he's been out of work.
Also, schiano wasn't even close to .500 in the big east while he was at Rutgers. You can't hire that guy if you are the UT AD and Currie is a rough ridin' idiot for not knowing that. this went about as well as anyone could've predicted.
Well, the one thing that we can all agree on here is that John Currie is probably mumped, regardless of any of our thoughts on whether this is ethically right or wrong. He's probably mumped.
This is all truth. I tried to justify Schiano for football reasons last year and earlier today, I was dead wrong for that and Currie should have done better.
The enabler stuff is bullshit.
Being one to be wrong on this board many times, this took guts. I appreciate your manhood here.
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They should hire Sean
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Is the Washington State job open? He really should be working for the NCAA though.
It is. I joked Saturday about the Leach to Tennessee rumors in that why would Leach escape Schulz only to go to Currie. Then I joked about Tennessee trading Currie for Leach so that everyone's where and with who they want.
It would still work.
Actually not a bad idea. Washington State needs to get their financial house in order. Tennessee would get a great coach. Not sure if he fits into the SEC as well as he does in the PAC but this is probably better than what will actually happen.
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*whistles*
https://twitter.com/knoxvillerace/status/934980170829783040
99% chance that's not how it went down.
Yeah absolutely, but the UT fans saw their opening and took it. Again I feel like I could've predicted this if someone would've told me five days ago that schiano would've been the guy. Not the part about them getting Currie to back out of the deal, but the overall reaction and them using the pedophile stuff absolutely. That's where Currie is a dumbass though. He doesn't get it. He just doesn't. There is a disconnect with him and his job and what it is that he's actually getting paid to do. He won't be there in five years. crap he might not even be there in five weeks.
He is not meant to be an AD in 2017. He maybe could have been passable somewhere before the internet was invented. Maybe
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“At no time did Tom Bradley ever witness any inappropriate behavior. Nor did he have any knowledge of alleged incidents in the 80’s and 90’s. He has consistently testified as such. Any assertions to the contrary are false. When he became aware of the 2001 incident it had already been reported to the University administration years earlier.”
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What we will never know for sure, is whether Schiano was Currie's pick for KSU as well. AD's have a "short list," right? Would this have been who we would have gotten if Snyder had stepped down before Currie departed?
There is no way in hell the KSU community would have mustered the outrage that the UT community gathered in such a short period of time. KSU fans would have definitely just taken it.
If this is accurate, i doubt he would have even been interested.
https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/934967737260134400
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I am a little concerned that this backlash on Clay Travis and UT fans will detract from John Currie’s hand in this.
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Is the Washington State job open? He really should be working for the NCAA though.
It is. I joked Saturday about the Leach to Tennessee rumors in that why would Leach escape Schulz only to go to Currie. Then I joked about Tennessee trading Currie for Leach so that everyone's where and with who they want.
It would still work.
Actually not a bad idea. Washington State needs to get their financial house in order. Tennessee would get a great coach. Not sure if he fits into the SEC as well as he does in the PAC but this is probably better than what will actually happen.
Right? There'd be some upset cougs, but nothing organized and outraged enough to derail things. Schulz and Currie could retire or go somewhere even more remote within 5 years before it gets to problematic.
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so much fodder, thanks Currie
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What we will never know for sure, is whether Schiano was Currie's pick for KSU as well. AD's have a "short list," right? Would this have been who we would have gotten if Snyder had stepped down before Currie departed?
There is no way in hell the KSU community would have mustered the outrage that the UT community gathered in such a short period of time. KSU fans would have definitely just taken it.
If this is accurate, i doubt he would have even been interested.
https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/934967737260134400
If the offers were FBS offers, we were certainty better than any offer he got. LSU, Texas, and Oregon definitely didn't offer him. I'm thinking Baylor definitely did Purdue, Cincinnati?
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/college-gridiron-365/os-sp-college-coach-hire-grades-snap-20161212-story.html
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Why hasn’t Les Miles been mentioned for these vacancies?
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What we will never know for sure, is whether Schiano was Currie's pick for KSU as well. AD's have a "short list," right? Would this have been who we would have gotten if Snyder had stepped down before Currie departed?
There is no way in hell the KSU community would have mustered the outrage that the UT community gathered in such a short period of time. KSU fans would have definitely just taken it.
If this is accurate, i doubt he would have even been interested.
https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/934967737260134400
If the offers were FBS offers, we were certainty better than any offer he got. LSU, Texas, and Oregon definitely didn't offer him. I'm thinking Baylor definitely did Purdue, Cincinnati?
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/college-gridiron-365/os-sp-college-coach-hire-grades-snap-20161212-story.html
I agree we are right up there. I'm not sure KSU would be a fit. Isn't he an East Coast guy? I have no idea
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If Schiano falls through, what are their options? Could be a disaster either way.
Brady Hoke probably.
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I’m Lol’ing, but I’ve never heard a peep about Schiano and Sandusky, and now several reporters are saying there was never really anything to it.
Lol’ing at Currie, hate to see someone who may have done nothing wrong get skewered on social media.
The problem is, while there may never really anything into it, it was testified, under oath that he knew of the situation and didn't do anything.
Okay, hadn’t seen or heard that.
Let me see if I can find it.
This explains it pretty well.
https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/934946704004173824
The guy that wrote that is a Sandusky supporter....
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=aZUbWp_2KOuijwT40IH4Aw&q=john+ziegler+sandusky&oq=john+ziegler+sandusky&gs_l=mobile-gws-hp.3...2326.15106.0.15690.30.26.3.1.1.0.261.4108.1j20j5.26.0....0...1.1.64.mobile-gws-hp..0.24.3466.3..0j41j0i131k1j0i131i155k1j0i22i30k1j33i160k1j0i8i13i30k1.0.HiC71LJnOco
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Fascinating....
http://www.jeffpearlman.com/on-matt-sandusky-and-the-worst-guy-ive-ever-dealt-with/
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If Schiano falls through, what are their options? Could be a disaster either way.
Brady Hoke probably.
I would love it but there are group of 5 guys who would slice their wife for a SEC job.
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Fascinating....
http://www.jeffpearlman.com/on-matt-sandusky-and-the-worst-guy-ive-ever-dealt-with/
Yeah Ziegler is a real piece of crap. The blog post gets into him as a 9/11 truther, I'm also pretty sure he's also a Sandy Hook truther. I hear him periodically on a Boston based podcast I listen to, he's a great value brand Alex Jones. Thankfully there are sane people out there speaking up for Schiano.
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http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=33753.msg1651992#msg1651992
:gocho:
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He's been ranked one time at the end of a college football season in his life. He wasn't eligible for the job, but there's a reason why ppl hate him and he's been out of work.
Also, schiano wasn't even close to .500 in the big east while he was at Rutgers. You can't hire that guy if you are the UT AD and Currie is a rough ridin' idiot for not knowing that. this went about as well as anyone could've predicted.
Well, the one thing that we can all agree on here is that John Currie is probably mumped, regardless of any of our thoughts on whether this is ethically right or wrong. He's probably mumped.
This is all truth. I tried to justify Schiano for football reasons last year and earlier today, I was dead wrong for that and Currie should have done better.
The enabler stuff is bullshit.
Yeah absolutely, but the UT fans saw their opening and took it. Again I feel like I could've predicted this if someone would've told me five days ago that schiano would've been the guy. Not the part about them getting Currie to back out of the deal, but the overall reaction and them using the pedophile stuff absolutely. That's where Currie is a dumbass though. He doesn't get it. He just doesn't. There is a disconnect with him and his job and what it is that he's actually getting paid to do. He won't be there in five years. crap he might not even be there in five weeks.
Zero chance JC survives this.
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Zero chance JC survives this.
He won't be AD at the end of the week imo.
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http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=33753.msg1651992#msg1651992
:gocho:
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=33753.msg1652023#msg1652023
:gocho:
:cheers: you got to have the foresight that Currie apparently didn't have, I got to be right on McQueary's snitch ass two years in a row
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http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=33753.msg1651992#msg1651992
:gocho:
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=33753.msg1652023#msg1652023
:gocho:
:cheers: you got to have the foresight that Currie apparently didn't have, I got to be right on McQueary's snitch ass two years in a row
yeah I mean I knew that off the top of my head plus knew he had a rep for being a piece of trash and somehow Currie thinks Schiano was going to be all hunky dory? Just unreal that he really really is that out of touch.
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Tennessee fans don't give a damn about anything but getting the football coach they want, at any expense, it's actually amazing.
https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/935012785162997760
The replies to this tweet are something else
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I'm seeing more and more #vols talking about how Schiano sucks at football as opposed to or at least in addition to Sandusky things.
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I'm seeing more and more #vols talking about how Schiano sucks at football as opposed to or at least in addition to Sandusky things.
The whole thing was just bad, and it wasn't clearly well planned out by the University of Tennessee Administration and/or John Currie, whoever did this.
I'm trying to think of this through as a rational post. Looking at Schiano, yes, there is that allegations of the Sandusky situation. As it was noted, it was coming from a 3rd hand source (McQueary) in court, which is hearsay, and no evidence to really support that claim, and Schiano has denied this. However, the PSU stuff is still pretty fresh considering that process is still being played out with the McQueary defamation case and other stuff that is going on (Baylor rape stuff being the most recent situation, indirectly). We'll never get the full story of how it exactly played out in Penn State, but anyone who is associated to that, directly or indirectly, is tainted in some peoples eyes. So I can understand why the folks doesn't want to associate themselves to the Sandusky situation, at all. It casts a bad light.
So, if we were to remove the Penn State stuff, and look at him as a coach. There has been well established reports of him being a not so very nice guy during his time in Rutgers and in the NFL. Granted, he did well in Rutgers, but it has also been noted that his tactic of using satellite camps is banned. There's also that tweet from TJ Moe that some players who played under him in Rutgers, hated him. In addition, his career in the NFL was uninspiring and there's that tweet that the NFL players hated his style, and how he treated some NFL players were pretty bad. The Freeman incident is an example of it as well. There's also that MRSA thing that happened under his watch. So I also can understand their reasoning for not wanting to have a "retread" coach, who barely made it successful in Rutgers.
Really, looking at the whole body of work, everything there just casts a bunch of red lights that, somehow, University of Tennessee and/or John just overlooked it. The Penn State stuff. The personality that really rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. It was just a poor judgement call by Tennessee and/or John.
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Players hating him shouldn't be considered a bit. The people vocal on twitter about how much players hate him have not people who have played for him, but I've seen multiple tweets from people who played for him having his back. He's a coach there will always be players that love him and hate him.
He was an unmitigated disaster in the NFL though, no doubt about it. He wouldn't be the first college coach to flame out in the NFL and won't be the last.
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I’m Lol’ing, but I’ve never heard a peep about Schiano and Sandusky, and now several reporters are saying there was never really anything to it.
Lol’ing at Currie, hate to see someone who may have done nothing wrong get skewered on social media.
The problem is, while there may never really anything into it, it was testified, under oath that he knew of the situation and didn't do anything.
Okay, hadn’t seen or heard that.
Here you go Dax.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/07/12/greg-schiano-tom-bradley-knew-of-jerry-sandusky-abuse-at-penn-state-documents-show/?utm_term=.310aad4d7a04
I sure in the eff hope you don't think this
“No,” McQueary replied, according to the documents, “only that he had — I can’t remember if it was one night or one morning — but that Greg had come into his office white as a ghost and said he just saw Jerry doing something to a boy in the shower. And that’s it. That’s all he ever told me.”
justifies the bullshit the Tennessee fans are doing or worth ruining the careers of Currie and Schiano.
The DA didn't deem it necessary to get Bradley or Schiano on record, under oath. These people are labeling this guy an enabler to a pedophile all because they didn't want him as a football coach. It's rough ridin' gross, Salem witch and McCarthyism type stuff, people should be outraged but everyone is cool with this because it's funny on twitter.
The problem is, Schiano just submitted a PR move, denied it, and moved on. If he really felt like he was being defamed, then he should have gone after Mike McQueary.
He didn't.
And this was a bad judgement by Currie. I would bet you that if said coach was NOT allegedly linked to this scandal, this would have been moot.
Gone after McQueary for what? Retelling a story that was supposedly told to him? What exactly does going after him look like?
There is typically some protection for slander/libel in the context of court proceedings. According to the article the statements were in sealed documents so you could argue they were never intended to be made public.
And I don’t believe it is up to Schiano to bring perjury charges, even though the state clearly did not view the allegations as credible since they would have gone after Schiano as well.
TLDR: MIR is probably right. Not much he could do even if the statement was 100% false.
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Currie never ceases to amaze.
He basically goes after the Mark Mangino of Rutgers (with Sandusky connections) and thinks that people at Tennessee will take that. Its not like he hasn't worked at that place before, he should have a good understanding of that fan base.
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Players hating him shouldn't be considered a bit. The people vocal on twitter about how much players hate him have not people who have played for him, but I've seen multiple tweets from people who played for him having his back. He's a coach there will always be players that love him and hate him.
Yea, I don’t think many people at Michigan were upset about the Harbaugh hire following his flame out at the NFL level amid similar allegations.
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I do think this whole deal will fall at Currie’s feet and probably rightfully so, but I have to imagine he was receiving significant pressure from somewhere to look at Schiano. If people really believe Currie single handedly ran off Frank for being difficult to work with and potentially violating NCAA rules, I have a VERY hard time believing Currie would insist against everyone else on hiring a guy like Schiano. Makes zero sense.
Maybe he’s just lost his mind, or maybe there is way more to the story.
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Best media member take so far....
https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/11/27/greg-schiano-tennessee-coach-protest-penn-state
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I do think this whole deal will fall at Currie’s feet and probably rightfully so, but I have to imagine he was receiving significant pressure from somewhere to look at Schiano. If people really believe Currie single handedly ran off Frank for being difficult to work with and potentially violating NCAA rules, I have a VERY hard time believing Currie would insist against everyone else on hiring a guy like Schiano. Makes zero sense.
Maybe he’s just lost his mind, or maybe there is way more to the story.
Currie doesn't (still) understand that at the end of the day, it's actually him working for the fans and the coaches he employs. He's caught up in his job title and thinks it's the other way around. He should have learned his lesson with oscar but didn't. Maybe because it was basketball and not football and maybe because Kansas state has like 1/3 the amount of fans that UT has. I don't know.
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I do think this whole deal will fall at Currie’s feet and probably rightfully so, but I have to imagine he was receiving significant pressure from somewhere to look at Schiano. If people really believe Currie single handedly ran off Frank for being difficult to work with and potentially violating NCAA rules, I have a VERY hard time believing Currie would insist against everyone else on hiring a guy like Schiano. Makes zero sense.
Maybe he’s just lost his mind, or maybe there is way more to the story.
Currie doesn't (still) understand that at the end of the day, it's actually him working for the fans and the coaches he employs. He's caught up in his job title and thinks it's the other way around. He should have learned his lesson with oscar but didn't. Maybe because it was basketball and not football and maybe because Kansas state has like 1/3 the amount of fans that UT has. I don't know.
Yeah, Currie still doesn't get it.
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There's also that MRSA thing that happened under his watch.
I don't see how this would/should be a factor. I can see why it could be a bad publicity moment for him during the Bucs stint but there's hardly anything he coudl have done to prevent (much less cause) it.
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I’m Lol’ing, but I’ve never heard a peep about Schiano and Sandusky, and now several reporters are saying there was never really anything to it.
Lol’ing at Currie, hate to see someone who may have done nothing wrong get skewered on social media.
The problem is, while there may never really anything into it, it was testified, under oath that he knew of the situation and didn't do anything.
Okay, hadn’t seen or heard that.
Let me see if I can find it.
This explains it pretty well.
https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/934946704004173824
The guy that wrote that is a Sandusky supporter....
https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=aZUbWp_2KOuijwT40IH4Aw&q=john+ziegler+sandusky&oq=john+ziegler+sandusky&gs_l=mobile-gws-hp.3...2326.15106.0.15690.30.26.3.1.1.0.261.4108.1j20j5.26.0....0...1.1.64.mobile-gws-hp..0.24.3466.3..0j41j0i131k1j0i131i155k1j0i22i30k1j33i160k1j0i8i13i30k1.0.HiC71LJnOco
And the guy is a dumbass for that. But, he's right on the Schiano allegations.
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Best media member take so far....
https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/11/27/greg-schiano-tennessee-coach-protest-penn-state
Summed it up pretty well but I'm not so sure about this part...
After Sunday, I’d bet the fans who revolted will choose to embrace the person who does get the job if only to prove the fan base didn’t rise up out of a desire to destroy the program. The fans didn’t do what they did Sunday because they’re crazy. They did it because they love Tennessee.
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Booger McFarland was on Golic and Wingo this morning and boy he was ripping UT up and down. He was pretty mad.
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I do think this whole deal will fall at Currie’s feet and probably rightfully so, but I have to imagine he was receiving significant pressure from somewhere to look at Schiano. If people really believe Currie single handedly ran off Frank for being difficult to work with and potentially violating NCAA rules, I have a VERY hard time believing Currie would insist against everyone else on hiring a guy like Schiano. Makes zero sense.
Maybe he’s just lost his mind, or maybe there is way more to the story.
The Haslam family (Pilot Oil) runs things in the UT Ath Dept. Jimmy (Cleveland Browns) had previously interviewed Schiano for the Browns and was enamored with him. Many think that Currie was at least in part doing his bidding. Currie apparently ran the hire by a few big boosters and the reaction was negative. Yet he still went ahead with the hire, or tried to do it.
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Best media member take so far....
https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/11/27/greg-schiano-tennessee-coach-protest-penn-state
Summed it up pretty well but I'm not so sure about this part...
After Sunday, I’d bet the fans who revolted will choose to embrace the person who does get the job if only to prove the fan base didn’t rise up out of a desire to destroy the program. The fans didn’t do what they did Sunday because they’re crazy. They did it because they love Tennessee.
They will absolutely do that for the same sanctimonious reasons as why they latched onto Sandusky things to protest Schiano.
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Here's a good breakdown of the potential financial/legal ramifications of the deal.
https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/11/26/greg-schiano-tennessee-volunteers-memorandum-understanding (https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/11/26/greg-schiano-tennessee-volunteers-memorandum-understanding)
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Who on earth would've guessed that Currie's hire would cause a huge backlash among the fanbase?
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Best media member take so far....
https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/11/27/greg-schiano-tennessee-coach-protest-penn-state
Summed it up pretty well but I'm not so sure about this part...
After Sunday, I’d bet the fans who revolted will choose to embrace the person who does get the job if only to prove the fan base didn’t rise up out of a desire to destroy the program. The fans didn’t do what they did Sunday because they’re crazy. They did it because they love Tennessee.
They will absolutely do that for the same sanctimonious reasons as why they latched onto Sandusky things to protest Schiano.
yeah, trim and staples are right. you can't act crazy twice in a row. they have no choice but to somewhat accept the new hire.
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Best media member take so far....
https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/11/27/greg-schiano-tennessee-coach-protest-penn-state
Summed it up pretty well but I'm not so sure about this part...
After Sunday, I’d bet the fans who revolted will choose to embrace the person who does get the job if only to prove the fan base didn’t rise up out of a desire to destroy the program. The fans didn’t do what they did Sunday because they’re crazy. They did it because they love Tennessee.
They will absolutely do that for the same sanctimonious reasons as why they latched onto Sandusky things to protest Schiano.
yeah, trim and staples are right. you can't act crazy twice in a row. they have no choice but to somewhat accept the new hire.
We're not talking about rational people here, though.
Considering the Schiano fiasco actually had nothing to do with his ties to Sandusky and everything to do with his mediocre coaching record, I can't imagine Clay and Co. embracing anyone not viewed as a home run hire.
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Which they won’t get. So this will be very fun to watch from the sidelines.
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Best media member take so far....
https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/11/27/greg-schiano-tennessee-coach-protest-penn-state
Summed it up pretty well but I'm not so sure about this part...
After Sunday, I’d bet the fans who revolted will choose to embrace the person who does get the job if only to prove the fan base didn’t rise up out of a desire to destroy the program. The fans didn’t do what they did Sunday because they’re crazy. They did it because they love Tennessee.
They will absolutely do that for the same sanctimonious reasons as why they latched onto Sandusky things to protest Schiano.
yeah, trim and staples are right. you can't act crazy twice in a row. they have no choice but to somewhat accept the new hire.
We're not talking about rational people here, though.
Considering the Schiano fiasco actually had nothing to do with his ties to Sandusky and everything to do with his mediocre coaching record, I can't imagine Clay and Co. embracing anyone not viewed as a home run hire.
Doesn't matter. Look how important what others' impressions of the fanbase are to them.
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Which they won’t get. So this will be very fun to watch from the sidelines.
Exactly, absolutely no one that will take that job now will satisfy them.
I'd guess they'll either have to overpay for a completely unproven "up and comer" that's too dumb to turn it down or a really old retread that knows he can get a ton of money on his last stop before disappearing from coaching.
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It doesn't matter who they get. They can't trash the new guy even 1/5 as much because it is their actions that caused them to get the new guy. Even if they hate the new guy more than schiano, they have to be somewhat accepting. They won't rally twice.
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Did they just single handily blacklist Schiano from any potential FT gigs by blasting him so hard publicly? I'd be a bit tentative to move fwd with him after that. Even if I was Memphis or something.
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https://twitter.com/BarrettSallee/status/935184188738887680
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I find it very difficult to believe that John Currie is doing this complete termination and hire of a FB coach in a vacuum or on his own.
The smart thing for UT to do would be to fire JC today, put his head out on a stake for the media to see -- and summarily blame the whole bumbling and fumbling affair on Currie.
UT Administration doesnt really seem to be able to get much of anything right over the past few years and the blame goes much deeper than JC (although he's not in any way blameless).
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https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/935185500851150849
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I find it very difficult to believe that John Currie is doing this complete termination and hire of a FB coach in a vacuum or on his own.
The smart thing for UT to do would be to fire JC today, put his head out on a stake for the media to see -- and summarily blame the whole bumbling and fumbling affair on Currie.
UT Administration doesnt really seem to be able to get much of anything right over the past few years and the blame goes much deeper than JC (although he's not in any way blameless).
Ask Missouri what it's like trying to hire a football coach without an AD.
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I find it very difficult to believe that John Currie is doing this complete termination and hire of a FB coach in a vacuum or on his own.
The smart thing for UT to do would be to fire JC today, put his head out on a stake for the media to see -- and summarily blame the whole bumbling and fumbling affair on Currie.
UT Administration doesnt really seem to be able to get much of anything right over the past few years and the blame goes much deeper than JC (although he's not in any way blameless).
Ask Missouri what it's like trying to hire a football coach without an AD.
After this debacle, It's going to be even harder to hire someone with AD John Currie.
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It doesn't matter who they get. They can't trash the new guy even 1/5 as much because it is their actions that caused them to get the new guy. Even if they hate the new guy more than schiano, they have to be somewhat accepting. They won't rally twice.
I'm not saying they'll go into BID mode again. The article used the word "embrace". Outside of a few names on a short list, I don't see these zealots embracing anything other than their pitchforks.
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It doesn't matter who they get. They can't trash the new guy even 1/5 as much because it is their actions that caused them to get the new guy. Even if they hate the new guy more than schiano, they have to be somewhat accepting. They won't rally twice.
I'm not saying they'll go into BID mode again. The article used the word "embrace". Outside of a few names on a short list, I don't see these zealots embracing anything other than their pitchforks.
Fair. I'll give a 30% chance that they embrace and a 70% chance that they are meh.
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Did they just single handily blacklist Schiano from any potential FT gigs by blasting him so hard publicly? I'd be a bit tentative to move fwd with him after that. Even if I was Memphis or something.
No, he's the defensive coordinator at Ohio State University. He has Urban Meyer and Bill Belichick as references. He'll have bigger issues with a closer inspection of what he did at Rutgers. He'll get other offers but nothing as "good" as Tennessee.
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I might have missed it in the fast paced discussion in this thread but has anything else come out in regards to UT having to pay schiano despite not hiring him?
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Did they just single handily blacklist Schiano from any potential FT gigs by blasting him so hard publicly? I'd be a bit tentative to move fwd with him after that. Even if I was Memphis or something.
No, he's the defensive coordinator at Ohio State University. He has Urban Meyer and Bill Belichick as references. He'll have bigger issues with a closer inspection of what he did at Rutgers. He'll get other offers but nothing as "good" as Tennessee.
:thumbs:
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It doesn't matter who they get. They can't trash the new guy even 1/5 as much because it is their actions that caused them to get the new guy. Even if they hate the new guy more than schiano, they have to be somewhat accepting. They won't rally twice.
I'm not saying they'll go into BID mode again. The article used the word "embrace". Outside of a few names on a short list, I don't see these zealots embracing anything other than their pitchforks.
Yeah, this is exactly correct. The most impressive part of all this is their ability to form a circle jerk of group think. I'm sure there were Tennessee alums who were uncomfortable with the attempt to smear this dude. Those people were either shouted down or didn't feel comfortable speaking up.
They'll do whatever they're told to do and their band leader profits from outrage so it shouldn't be hard to see where this ends up. After they moved on from Gruden it seems like the group now has their sights set on Campbell.
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Campbell :love:
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I might have missed it in the fast paced discussion in this thread but has anything else come out in regards to UT having to pay schiano despite not hiring him?
My understanding is the MOU was signed by both parties. Since it was signed, a good lawyer will get UT having to pay Schiano.
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Clay Travis (because I don't want to link his tweet: "As the Tennessee search redirects, I'm told current Dallas Cowboy tight end Jason Witten has let Tennessee athletic director John Currie know he would leave the Cowboys to take over the Tennessee football job:"
lolwtf.
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I find it very difficult to believe that John Currie is doing this complete termination and hire of a FB coach in a vacuum or on his own.
Well if he did, he absolutely didn't, he should have been fired yesterday. I don't think he did that though, his history doesn't indicate he'd do that. The Frank stuff was absolutely a coordinated effort between him and the guy this board called the animal. In retrospect it looks like he had some money support from the Ice and Johnson families for hiring oscar, that money for the BTF came in pretty quickly after Frank was gone.
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Clay Travis (because I don't want to link his tweet: "As the Tennessee search redirects, I'm told current Dallas Cowboy tight end Jason Witten has let Tennessee athletic director John Currie know he would leave the Cowboys to take over the Tennessee football job:"
lolwtf.
That can't possibly be true, that rumor should go over well in the Cowboys locker room.
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Clay Travis (because I don't want to link his tweet: "As the Tennessee search redirects, I'm told current Dallas Cowboy tight end Jason Witten has let Tennessee athletic director John Currie know he would leave the Cowboys to take over the Tennessee football job:"
lolwtf.
Would take.
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Knoxville sports radio makes for a pretty good listen this morning: http://radio.securenetsystems.net/ce/index.cfm?stationCallSign=WKGN2
The level of crazy is off the charts. "The east coast liberal elites tried to force us to hire their coach but we won't have it."
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I might have missed it in the fast paced discussion in this thread but has anything else come out in regards to UT having to pay schiano despite not hiring him?
TBD but we will have to pay him. I think Schiano is preparing to file suit against UT.
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https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/934993190574227456
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Knoxville sports radio makes for a pretty good listen this morning: http://radio.securenetsystems.net/ce/index.cfm?stationCallSign=WKGN2
The level of crazy is off the charts. "The east coast liberal elites tried to force us to hire their coach but we won't have it."
:lol:
That could also go in the Break Up the United States thread.
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The Frank stuff was absolutely a coordinated effort between him and the guy this board called the animal. In retrospect it looks like he had some money support from the Ice and Johnson families for hiring oscar, that money for the BTF came in pretty quickly after Frank was gone.
:surprised:
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BTW, would Tennessee really be more excited for Campbell vs. Schiano? (assuming Schiano wasn't associated with child rape cover up)
Campbell had some nice wins but goddam he's 7-5 this year.
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I might have missed it in the fast paced discussion in this thread but has anything else come out in regards to UT having to pay schiano despite not hiring him?
TBD but we will have to pay him. I think Schiano is preparing to file suit against UT.
I doubt UT will pay for anything based on the memorandum of understanding in place between them and Schiano. The point of the memo is to not be a legally binding agreement, but instead a basis from which to proceed. Usually the first sentence in a MOU says something to the effect of "...this is not a legally binding agreement..."
I haven't done any research but what interests me is the question of what liability UT may have for the rock writings which were clearly inaccurate and defaming. UT will argue that the rock is an element of free speech and they have no control over it (those pesky students did it). The question is going to be should they have had control and could they have taken control of it sooner so as to not be ruinous to Schiano's future.
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Watching JC crash and burn at Tennessee makes me happy. Sure the fans are crazy, but I wish we had that kind of passion in our fan base.
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I might have missed it in the fast paced discussion in this thread but has anything else come out in regards to UT having to pay schiano despite not hiring him?
TBD but we will have to pay him. I think Schiano is preparing to file suit against UT.
I doubt UT will pay for anything based on the memorandum of understanding in place between them and Schiano. The point of the memo is to not be a legally binding agreement, but instead a basis from which to proceed. Usually the first sentence in a MOU says something to the effect of "...this is not a legally binding agreement..."
I haven't done any research but what interests me is the question of what liability UT may have for the rock writings which were clearly inaccurate and defaming. UT will argue that the rock is an element of free speech and they have no control over it (those pesky students did it). The question is going to be should they have had control and could they have taken control of it sooner so as to not be ruinous to Schiano's future.
Here's a good breakdown of the potential financial/legal ramifications of the deal.
https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/11/26/greg-schiano-tennessee-volunteers-memorandum-understanding (https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/11/26/greg-schiano-tennessee-volunteers-memorandum-understanding)
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BTW, would Tennessee really be more excited for Campbell vs. Schiano? (assuming Schiano wasn't associated with child rape cover up)
Campbell had some nice wins but goddam he's 7-5 this year.
While he was 7-5, his coaching history supports the winner aspect. He coached for Toledo and was consistently winning there.
2011 Toledo 1–0 (interim)
2012 Toledo 9–4 (6–2 Conference)
2013 Toledo 7–5 (5–3 Conference)
2014 Toledo 9–4 (7–1 Conference)
2015 Toledo 9–2 (6–2 Conference)
Lets not forget that Iowa State in his first year was 3-9 (2-7 conference play) before improving to 7-5 (5-4 conference play). On top of that, they did upset two Top 25 teams and gave the 3rd one a run for their money.
Granted, I can see the 1-4 ending a bad taste, but the other side is that he only has been here two years, and still is filling out his roster with his own type of players/recruits.
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BTW, would Tennessee really be more excited for Campbell vs. Schiano? (assuming Schiano wasn't associated with child rape cover up)
Campbell had some nice wins but goddam he's 7-5 this year.
While he was 7-5, his coaching history supports the winner aspect. He coached for Toledo and was consistently winning there.
2011 Toledo 1–0 (interim)
2012 Toledo 9–4 (6–2 Conference)
2013 Toledo 7–5 (5–3 Conference)
2014 Toledo 9–4 (7–1 Conference)
2015 Toledo 9–2 (6–2 Conference)
Lets not forget that Iowa State in his first year was 3-9 (2-7 conference play) before improving to 7-5 (5-4 conference play). On top of that, they did upset two Top 25 teams and gave the 3rd one a run for their money.
Granted, I can see the 1-4 ending a bad taste, but the other side is that he only has been here two years, and still is filling out his roster with his own type of players/recruits.
Yeah I can look up his wikipedia page, too, which is how I came to my conclusion that UT fans wouldn't feel much better about hiring Campbell than Schiano. Cambpell's like Butch Jones with a thinner resume.
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When Frank left there was a high donor that bounced around the top 3 on the Ahearn Fund rankings that wanted no public recognition for their money. Most wouldn't know his name. The night we hired Weber, I saw a text message from him. He was given no warning that Frank was leaving & found out from friends with Twitter that oscar was being hired.
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When Frank left there was a high donor that bounced around the top 3 on the Ahearn Fund rankings that wanted no public recognition for their money. Most wouldn't know his name. The night we hired Weber, I saw a text message from him. He was given no warning that Frank was leaving & found out from friends with Twitter that oscar was being hired.
Sounds familiar
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BTW, would Tennessee really be more excited for Campbell vs. Schiano? (assuming Schiano wasn't associated with child rape cover up)
Campbell had some nice wins but goddam he's 7-5 this year.
While he was 7-5, his coaching history supports the winner aspect. He coached for Toledo and was consistently winning there.
2011 Toledo 1–0 (interim)
2012 Toledo 9–4 (6–2 Conference)
2013 Toledo 7–5 (5–3 Conference)
2014 Toledo 9–4 (7–1 Conference)
2015 Toledo 9–2 (6–2 Conference)
Lets not forget that Iowa State in his first year was 3-9 (2-7 conference play) before improving to 7-5 (5-4 conference play). On top of that, they did upset two Top 25 teams and gave the 3rd one a run for their money.
Granted, I can see the 1-4 ending a bad taste, but the other side is that he only has been here two years, and still is filling out his roster with his own type of players/recruits.
Yeah I can look up his wikipedia page, too, which is how I came to my conclusion that UT fans wouldn't feel much better about hiring Campbell than Schiano. Cambpell's like Butch Jones with a thinner resume.
Iowa State's roster is still a mess, he really did a good job with this roster. Unlike Schiano and Butch, Campbell seems to not polarizing but outside of this I do feel like Schiano and Campbell are similar styled coaches. Both rely on defense and run heavy offenses. Both seem to be good recruiters and have the ability to put together a good staff. Campbell is pretty big on religion which would play well with the UT fan base too. They're similar but I do think Campbell is a better personality fit.
I doesn't seem like they're getting him either though, so maybe on to Whitten :dunno:
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BTW, would Tennessee really be more excited for Campbell vs. Schiano? (assuming Schiano wasn't associated with child rape cover up)
Campbell had some nice wins but goddam he's 7-5 this year.
While he was 7-5, his coaching history supports the winner aspect. He coached for Toledo and was consistently winning there.
2011 Toledo 1–0 (interim)
2012 Toledo 9–4 (6–2 Conference)
2013 Toledo 7–5 (5–3 Conference)
2014 Toledo 9–4 (7–1 Conference)
2015 Toledo 9–2 (6–2 Conference)
Lets not forget that Iowa State in his first year was 3-9 (2-7 conference play) before improving to 7-5 (5-4 conference play). On top of that, they did upset two Top 25 teams and gave the 3rd one a run for their money.
Granted, I can see the 1-4 ending a bad taste, but the other side is that he only has been here two years, and still is filling out his roster with his own type of players/recruits.
Yeah I can look up his wikipedia page, too, which is how I came to my conclusion that UT fans wouldn't feel much better about hiring Campbell than Schiano. Cambpell's like Butch Jones with a thinner resume.
That's fair, but I wouldn't put him on the Butch Jones label yet, because I didn't see anything that warrants that merit, albeit a thinner resume.
Schiano winning % = .503
Campbell winning % = .608
Campbell also performed better in conference record as well in terms of winning percentage.
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BTW, would Tennessee really be more excited for Campbell vs. Schiano? (assuming Schiano wasn't associated with child rape cover up)
Campbell had some nice wins but goddam he's 7-5 this year.
While he was 7-5, his coaching history supports the winner aspect. He coached for Toledo and was consistently winning there.
2011 Toledo 1–0 (interim)
2012 Toledo 9–4 (6–2 Conference)
2013 Toledo 7–5 (5–3 Conference)
2014 Toledo 9–4 (7–1 Conference)
2015 Toledo 9–2 (6–2 Conference)
Lets not forget that Iowa State in his first year was 3-9 (2-7 conference play) before improving to 7-5 (5-4 conference play). On top of that, they did upset two Top 25 teams and gave the 3rd one a run for their money.
Granted, I can see the 1-4 ending a bad taste, but the other side is that he only has been here two years, and still is filling out his roster with his own type of players/recruits.
Yeah I can look up his wikipedia page, too, which is how I came to my conclusion that UT fans wouldn't feel much better about hiring Campbell than Schiano. Cambpell's like Butch Jones with a thinner resume.
That's fair, but I wouldn't put him on the Butch Jones label yet, because I didn't see anything that warrants that merit, albeit a thinner resume.
Schiano winning % = .503
Campbell winning % = .608
Campbell also performed better in conference record as well in terms of winning percentage.
what was jones' winning percentage when UT hired him
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There seems to be a little bit of scuttlebutt that the AFCA is not happy with what happened yesterday. Also worth noting that Schiano is a Jimmy Sexton client and if you count Schiano that's four straight Sexton clients Tennessee has fired. If they piss the AFCA and Jimmy Sexton off they may need a NFL player to fill that vacancy.
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There seems to be a little bit of scuttlebutt that the AFCA is not happy with what happened yesterday. Also worth noting that Schiano is a Jimmy Sexton client and if you count Schiano that's four straight Sexton clients Tennessee has fired. If they piss the AFCA and Jimmy Sexton off they may need a NFL player to fill that vacancy.
:lol:
https://twitter.com/bower_power7/status/935207038837248000
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BTW, would Tennessee really be more excited for Campbell vs. Schiano? (assuming Schiano wasn't associated with child rape cover up)
Campbell had some nice wins but goddam he's 7-5 this year.
While he was 7-5, his coaching history supports the winner aspect. He coached for Toledo and was consistently winning there.
2011 Toledo 1–0 (interim)
2012 Toledo 9–4 (6–2 Conference)
2013 Toledo 7–5 (5–3 Conference)
2014 Toledo 9–4 (7–1 Conference)
2015 Toledo 9–2 (6–2 Conference)
Lets not forget that Iowa State in his first year was 3-9 (2-7 conference play) before improving to 7-5 (5-4 conference play). On top of that, they did upset two Top 25 teams and gave the 3rd one a run for their money.
Granted, I can see the 1-4 ending a bad taste, but the other side is that he only has been here two years, and still is filling out his roster with his own type of players/recruits.
Yeah I can look up his wikipedia page, too, which is how I came to my conclusion that UT fans wouldn't feel much better about hiring Campbell than Schiano. Cambpell's like Butch Jones with a thinner resume.
That's fair, but I wouldn't put him on the Butch Jones label yet, because I didn't see anything that warrants that merit, albeit a thinner resume.
Schiano winning % = .503
Campbell winning % = .608
Campbell also performed better in conference record as well in terms of winning percentage.
what was jones' winning percentage when UT hired him
.649
I get your point on the Jones label in terms of the W/L standpoint. I just do not see Campbell as a Jones type of a person.
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There seems to be a little bit of scuttlebutt that the AFCA is not happy with what happened yesterday. Also worth noting that Schiano is a Jimmy Sexton client and if you count Schiano that's four straight Sexton clients Tennessee has fired. If they piss the AFCA and Jimmy Sexton off they may need a NFL player to fill that vacancy.
Listened to Staples this morning. He insinuated that Sexton has some reporters he leaks stuff to & it's known who those reporters are. They're also the ones leading the offensive against Tennessee.
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https://twitter.com/ahollings1/status/935210913753219075
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Rutgers was one of the worst programs in the country when Schiano went there. They had likely replaced K-State by that point as the worst FBS program in the history of college football with one bowl appearance in their history. Granted, they had only moved from being an Independent to the Big East in the early 90s. He had arguably their best season ever and maybe their best stretch of football ever. Again, his Rutgers stretch is very similar to what Mangino did at KU, minus getting pushed out for being too tough on players.
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https://twitter.com/ahollings1/status/935210913753219075
lol Andre should crop his targeted google ads
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https://twitter.com/ahollings1/status/935210913753219075
Yeah, that Oral Swab Drug Test sounds intruging...... :emawkid:
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:lol: :emawkid:
http://gridironnow.com/day-unlike-tennessee-ends-egg-ads-face-still-no-coach/
http://gridironnow.com/new-familiar-names-emerging-vols-coaching-search/
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Rutgers was one of the worst programs in the country when Schiano went there. They had likely replaced K-State by that point as the worst FBS program in the history of college football with one bowl appearance in their history. Granted, they had only moved from being an Independent to the Big East in the early 90s. He had arguably their best season ever and maybe their best stretch of football ever. Again, his Rutgers stretch is very similar to what Mangino did at KU, minus getting pushed out for being too tough on players.
Agreed. Do you think the Big East is better, on par, or worse when comparing to the Big 12 during those times when both Mangino and Schiano coached?
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Rutgers was one of the worst programs in the country when Schiano went there. They had likely replaced K-State by that point as the worst FBS program in the history of college football with one bowl appearance in their history. Granted, they had only moved from being an Independent to the Big East in the early 90s. He had arguably their best season ever and maybe their best stretch of football ever. Again, his Rutgers stretch is very similar to what Mangino did at KU, minus getting pushed out for being too tough on players.
Agreed.
Totally agree as well. Now imagine how upset vol fans would be if it was leaked out over the weekend that Currie was in the process of hiring the guy that was fat and got fired at KU a few years ago.
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schiano accomplished a lot more at rutgers than mangino at ku
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Rutgers was one of the worst programs in the country when Schiano went there. They had likely replaced K-State by that point as the worst FBS program in the history of college football with one bowl appearance in their history. Granted, they had only moved from being an Independent to the Big East in the early 90s. He had arguably their best season ever and maybe their best stretch of football ever. Again, his Rutgers stretch is very similar to what Mangino did at KU, minus getting pushed out for being too tough on players.
Agreed.
Totally agree as well. Now imagine how upset vol fans would be if it was leaked out over the weekend that Currie was in the process of hiring the guy that was fat and got fired at KU a few years ago.
Well, in my opinion, I don't think it would even come close to that, because Mangino has connections to Snyder. I think that alone disqualifies him (in the eyes of Currie) because it's reasonable to think that if Currie actually did talk to Mangino and offered the job, Mangino may or may not have called Bill to get the scoop (I'm under the assumption that Mangino and Bill are in talking terms, obviously) of what it was like to work for Currie and whatnot.
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Rutgers was one of the worst programs in the country when Schiano went there. They had likely replaced K-State by that point as the worst FBS program in the history of college football with one bowl appearance in their history. Granted, they had only moved from being an Independent to the Big East in the early 90s. He had arguably their best season ever and maybe their best stretch of football ever. Again, his Rutgers stretch is very similar to what Mangino did at KU, minus getting pushed out for being too tough on players.
Agreed.
Totally agree as well. Now imagine how upset vol fans would be if it was leaked out over the weekend that Currie was in the process of hiring the guy that was fat and got fired at KU a few years ago.
To be clear, I'm not advocating Schiano as a head coach at Tennessee (nor would I for K-State). I'm just saying the overall winning % point at a school like Rutgers isn't the best talking point. I'd say not maintaining it and the fact that program was starting to falter a bit when he escaped to the NFL is a better justification to not hire him along with all the rumors of how he treats his players.
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schiano accomplished a lot more at rutgers than mangino at ku
Based on....
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schiano accomplished a lot more at rutgers than mangino at ku
I don't know, that's pretty subjective, considering that Miami and Virginia Tech (who were kingpins in the Big East) left in 2004 to go to the ACC.
Ironically, after Miami and VT left the Big East, that's when Schiano started winning against lesser fodders, and they still didn't win a Big East Crown and didn't win a BCS bowl, whereas Mangino had that one season where everything that went well for KU, did. And Mangino did win a BCS bowl (Orange).
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Rutgers was one of the worst programs in the country when Schiano went there. They had likely replaced K-State by that point as the worst FBS program in the history of college football with one bowl appearance in their history. Granted, they had only moved from being an Independent to the Big East in the early 90s. He had arguably their best season ever and maybe their best stretch of football ever. Again, his Rutgers stretch is very similar to what Mangino did at KU, minus getting pushed out for being too tough on players.
Agreed.
Totally agree as well. Now imagine how upset vol fans would be if it was leaked out over the weekend that Currie was in the process of hiring the guy that was fat and got fired at KU a few years ago.
To be clear, I'm not advocating Schiano as a head coach at Tennessee (nor would I for K-State). I'm just saying the overall winning % point at a school like Rutgers isn't the best talking point. I'd say not maintaining it and the fact that program was starting to falter a bit when he escaped to the NFL is a better justification to not hire him along with all the rumors of how he treats his players.
totally agree and don't at all think you were advocating for him. i do think that that schiano's big east win percentage should have kept him out of the running for that job though, in the same way that webers overall big10 win percentage should have kept him out of our bball job. if i was a UT fan, schiano and mangino are the same to me and i can't imagine being ok with either.
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Currie has to hire Tee Martin now
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https://twitter.com/ahammsportsgeek/status/935231537116794881
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https://twitter.com/MarcWhiteman/status/935210818060374016
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What really gets me is that this ADJC is nothing like the one portrayed in this site.
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When Frank left there was a high donor that bounced around the top 3 on the Ahearn Fund rankings that wanted no public recognition for their money. Most wouldn't know his name. The night we hired Weber, I saw a text message from him. He was given no warning that Frank was leaving & found out from friends with Twitter that oscar was being hired.
I missed this during the mass hysteria. What was his reaction?
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When Frank left there was a high donor that bounced around the top 3 on the Ahearn Fund rankings that wanted no public recognition for their money. Most wouldn't know his name. The night we hired Weber, I saw a text message from him. He was given no warning that Frank was leaving & found out from friends with Twitter that oscar was being hired.
I missed this during the mass hysteria. What was his reaction?
I don't know the guy. I just read a text that said he wasn't involved in any of it. Anything more would be speculation.
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When Frank left there was a high donor that bounced around the top 3 on the Ahearn Fund rankings that wanted no public recognition for their money. Most wouldn't know his name. The night we hired Weber, I saw a text message from him. He was given no warning that Frank was leaving & found out from friends with Twitter that oscar was being hired.
I missed this during the mass hysteria. What was his reaction?
I don't know the guy. I was with people that regularly sat in his suite & used his court side seats at basketball games. I read a text to them the day Weber was hired. It read like he wasn't thrilled he wasn't at least given a heads up. I don't know much, just giving a small bit of insite into how the Frank/oscar transition happened.
Fair enough.
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This is all just the best case of schadenfreude I've had in a long, long time.
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goEMAW has suffered from a lack of shadenfreude for a few years now. Lets hope it's turning around.
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Just read that Monday Night Raw was in Knoxville tonight and there was a Fire Currie chant :lol:
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https://twitter.com/RealUTVolsFan/status/935323157258489856
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Cutcliffe from Duke said no to Tennessee....again.
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https://twitter.com/SInow/status/935351079117754368
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https://twitter.com/SInow/status/935351079117754368
I'll see your WWE and raise you Change.org
https://www.change.org/p/beverly-j-davenport-fire-vols-ad-john-currie?recruiter=52020766&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=share_twitter_responsive&sharerUserId=52020766
You in or out?
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Apparently VolNation is clamoring for the return of Lane Kiffin. Would he take it?
Also I'm sure this is probably a Luke but I haven't really been keeping up with the thread today, so on the off chance that it hasn't been posted, here's Currie's statement.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPpxKx8WkAAX2g0.jpg:large)
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https://twitter.com/SInow/status/935351079117754368
omg :lol:
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https://twitter.com/ClowESPN/status/935339650134233089
:peek: :bang: :ROFL:
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I'm perusing VolNation.com's BBS right now and it is highly entertaining.
Not surprisingly, a guy with this as his avatar
(http://www.volnation.com/forum/customavatars/avatar67485_5.gif)
posted this:
My first chance to post since the weekend... How can we believe this guy after all that has gone down this weekend? He said he would pour all his energy into the search, but I read he signed the MOU that day after Butch was fired. So all this BS about vetting and contacting other coaches was just that..BS. That's why he was able to take in the basketball tourney without a care in the world.. What a snake!! I read an article about the "Light going out at Neyland" the other day. It was to the point and had some stuff in there that we won't get past for a long time. This hire will have to be a serious one. To be honest I don't know how a coach could trust anyone in the administration right now. The article stated we fired a hall of fame coach with a championship ring. That will be ringing in every potential hires head for years to come. We need to stop being so cheap and pay up if the program is that important. My Vols football helmet hanging on my cubicle wall is now upside down till this crap gets straightened out because our University of Tennessee is under distress. I hope we can right the ship and rescue our once proud program.... Heaven help us all.
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Rutgers was one of the worst programs in the country when Schiano went there. They had likely replaced K-State by that point as the worst FBS program in the history of college football with one bowl appearance in their history. Granted, they had only moved from being an Independent to the Big East in the early 90s. He had arguably their best season ever and maybe their best stretch of football ever. Again, his Rutgers stretch is very similar to what Mangino did at KU, minus getting pushed out for being too tough on players.
Agreed.
Totally agree as well. Now imagine how upset vol fans would be if it was leaked out over the weekend that Currie was in the process of hiring the guy that was fat and got fired at KU a few years ago.
To be clear, I'm not advocating Schiano as a head coach at Tennessee (nor would I for K-State). I'm just saying the overall winning % point at a school like Rutgers isn't the best talking point. I'd say not maintaining it and the fact that program was starting to falter a bit when he escaped to the NFL is a better justification to not hire him along with all the rumors of how he treats his players.
this is all fair. i think there is also a fair point that schiano shouldn't be a head coach anywhere and is probably a total bad person who covered for a pedophile.
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Rutgers was one of the worst programs in the country when Schiano went there. They had likely replaced K-State by that point as the worst FBS program in the history of college football with one bowl appearance in their history. Granted, they had only moved from being an Independent to the Big East in the early 90s. He had arguably their best season ever and maybe their best stretch of football ever. Again, his Rutgers stretch is very similar to what Mangino did at KU, minus getting pushed out for being too tough on players.
Agreed.
Totally agree as well. Now imagine how upset vol fans would be if it was leaked out over the weekend that Currie was in the process of hiring the guy that was fat and got fired at KU a few years ago.
To be clear, I'm not advocating Schiano as a head coach at Tennessee (nor would I for K-State). I'm just saying the overall winning % point at a school like Rutgers isn't the best talking point. I'd say not maintaining it and the fact that program was starting to falter a bit when he escaped to the NFL is a better justification to not hire him along with all the rumors of how he treats his players.
and is probably a total bad person who covered for a pedophile.
There is no more a basis to make that claim about him than it is about you.
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I'm perusing VolNation.com's BBS right now and it is highly entertaining.
Not surprisingly, a guy with this as his avatar
(http://www.volnation.com/forum/customavatars/avatar67485_5.gif)
posted this:
My first chance to post since the weekend... How can we believe this guy after all that has gone down this weekend? He said he would pour all his energy into the search, but I read he signed the MOU that day after Butch was fired. So all this BS about vetting and contacting other coaches was just that..BS. That's why he was able to take in the basketball tourney without a care in the world.. What a snake!! I read an article about the "Light going out at Neyland" the other day. It was to the point and had some stuff in there that we won't get past for a long time. This hire will have to be a serious one. To be honest I don't know how a coach could trust anyone in the administration right now. The article stated we fired a hall of fame coach with a championship ring. That will be ringing in every potential hires head for years to come. We need to stop being so cheap and pay up if the program is that important. My Vols football helmet hanging on my cubicle wall is now upside down till this crap gets straightened out because our University of Tennessee is under distress. I hope we can right the ship and rescue our once proud program.... Heaven help us all.
Please Heaven, help Tennessee!!
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Rutgers was one of the worst programs in the country when Schiano went there. They had likely replaced K-State by that point as the worst FBS program in the history of college football with one bowl appearance in their history. Granted, they had only moved from being an Independent to the Big East in the early 90s. He had arguably their best season ever and maybe their best stretch of football ever. Again, his Rutgers stretch is very similar to what Mangino did at KU, minus getting pushed out for being too tough on players.
Agreed.
Totally agree as well. Now imagine how upset vol fans would be if it was leaked out over the weekend that Currie was in the process of hiring the guy that was fat and got fired at KU a few years ago.
To be clear, I'm not advocating Schiano as a head coach at Tennessee (nor would I for K-State). I'm just saying the overall winning % point at a school like Rutgers isn't the best talking point. I'd say not maintaining it and the fact that program was starting to falter a bit when he escaped to the NFL is a better justification to not hire him along with all the rumors of how he treats his players.
and is probably a total bad person who covered for a pedophile.
There is no more a basis to make that claim about him than it is about you.
C'mon pvegs. Did you even read the article I posted?
https://twitter.com/DanWetzel/status/934965508872507392
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I wonder who Phillip Fulmer would hire?
Briles
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Briles getting hired and embraced by that fanbase would be hilariously sad
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C'mon pvegs. Did you even read the article I posted?
https://twitter.com/DanWetzel/status/934965508872507392
There are a lot of journalist showing that their coaching changes source is Jimmy Sexton & are going overboard to protect his client. On a scale of 1-10 to defend Schiano they are going to 17.
Yesterday Wetzel tweeted out a statement from a Penn State JoePa appologist trustee on Schiano that was nothing more than a statement to lump JoePa in with Schiano & say they're all innocent except Sandusky himself.
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It doesn't matter who they get. They can't trash the new guy even 1/5 as much because it is their actions that caused them to get the new guy. Even if they hate the new guy more than schiano, they have to be somewhat accepting. They won't rally twice.
I'm not saying they'll go into BID mode again. The article used the word "embrace". Outside of a few names on a short list, I don't see these zealots embracing anything other than their pitchforks.
Fair. I'll give a 30% chance that they embrace and a 70% chance that they are meh.
https://twitter.com/BucketHeadTN/status/935489211670593536
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This will be so good.
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C'mon pvegs. Did you even read the article I posted?
https://twitter.com/DanWetzel/status/934965508872507392
There are a lot of journalist showing that their coaching changes source is Jimmy Sexton & are going overboard to protect his client. On a scale of 1-10 to defend Schiano they are going to 17.
Yesterday Wetzel tweeted out a statement from a Penn State JoePa appologist trustee on Schiano that was nothing more than a statement to lump JoePa in with Schiano & say they're all innocent except Sandusky himself.
That may be so. But the facts remain the same regardless of who's presenting them.
Covering up child rape is a serious accusation. To pin that label on a dude based solely on hearsay, with zero evidence, is incredibly reckless and stupid.
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It doesn't matter who they get. They can't trash the new guy even 1/5 as much because it is their actions that caused them to get the new guy. Even if they hate the new guy more than schiano, they have to be somewhat accepting. They won't rally twice.
I'm not saying they'll go into BID mode again. The article used the word "embrace". Outside of a few names on a short list, I don't see these zealots embracing anything other than their pitchforks.
Fair. I'll give a 30% chance that they embrace and a 70% chance that they are meh.
https://twitter.com/BucketHeadTN/status/935489211670593536
https://twitter.com/TonyGeist/status/935493093176086529
https://twitter.com/TonyGeist/status/935497378689404928
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Remember, this is the same program that had a football game at a NASCAR track 2 hours closer to the hills so their fans could come out of their shanties to actually witness a game.
That fan base has high standards.
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"Butch on Bane Juice" omg
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They are warming up "It's Gundy"
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C'mon pvegs. Did you even read the article I posted?
https://twitter.com/DanWetzel/status/934965508872507392
There are a lot of journalist showing that their coaching changes source is Jimmy Sexton & are going overboard to protect his client. On a scale of 1-10 to defend Schiano they are going to 17.
Yesterday Wetzel tweeted out a statement from a Penn State JoePa appologist trustee on Schiano that was nothing more than a statement to lump JoePa in with Schiano & say they're all innocent except Sandusky himself.
Don't fall for that Tennessee bullshit. This stuff on Schiano isn't new reporting, that's why their fan bases behavior is so abhorrent, the information exonerating Schiano was out there but that didn't fit the group think agenda.
Jimmy Sexton isn't influencing reporting, that's completely insulting to actual real life journalists.
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If Gundy wants out why not take whatever Jimbo doesn't get in FSU/A&M?
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Grundy isn’t going anywhere. He’s going to get more money out of OSU for this, that’s it.
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Just imagine Currdawg and the Mullet at the Gatlinburg nut fry together.
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww92/TommyRoanoke/2012-05-16_18-43-37_200.jpg)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww92/TommyRoanoke/2012-05-16_18-45-01_92.jpg)
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C'mon pvegs. Did you even read the article I posted?
https://twitter.com/DanWetzel/status/934965508872507392
There are a lot of journalist showing that their coaching changes source is Jimmy Sexton & are going overboard to protect his client. On a scale of 1-10 to defend Schiano they are going to 17.
Yesterday Wetzel tweeted out a statement from a Penn State JoePa appologist trustee on Schiano that was nothing more than a statement to lump JoePa in with Schiano & say they're all innocent except Sandusky himself.
Don't fall for that Tennessee bullshit. This stuff on Schiano isn't new reporting, that's why their fan bases behavior is so abhorrent, the information exonerating Schiano was out there but that didn't fit the group think agenda.
Jimmy Sexton isn't influencing reporting, that's completely insulting to actual real life journalists.
That's not coming from Tennessee. That's coming from other journalist like Andy Staples & George Schroder. Tennessee fans using child rape to block a coach they don't want is abhorrent. I also don't trust journalists like Dan Wetzel tweeting out a statement from a JoePa apologist using this as nothing more than an opportunity to stump for JoePa & impress those JoePa appologist ms who voted them in as a trustee, who are using that statement to support their case.
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Every year I think "this is the year Gundy jumps" and it never happens. If he doesn't like what is in the cupboard behind Rudolph, maybe he does leave. Those WRs are all such studs though.
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If Gundy wants out why not take whatever Jimbo doesn't get in FSU/A&M?
And why wouldn't you call Gundy before Campbell or Schiano?
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Just imagine Currdawg and the Mullet at the Gatlinburg nut fry together.
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww92/TommyRoanoke/2012-05-16_18-43-37_200.jpg)
(http://i709.photobucket.com/albums/ww92/TommyRoanoke/2012-05-16_18-45-01_92.jpg)
Gatlinburg doesn't have nut fries. White supremacists rallies occasionally, weird craft fairs, and an abusively long Christmas light thing, yes. But no nut fries. Not enough cattle.
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Sounds like Gatlinburg is all hat.
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Jimmy Sexton isn't influencing reporting, that's completely insulting to actual real life journalists.
if you don't think that fact that jimmy sexton is also the agent for journalists like pete thamel etc and that influences what he and others who share sexton as an agent write, then I'm not sure what to say. of course it influences what they write. that should just be accepted as fact by everyone and then we move on.
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Isn't Schiano's agent Jimmy Sexton as well? If so, with these writers who are highly probably associated to Jimmy Sexton, it makes sense that they would go damage control/defense in Schiano. They're not going to trash their own agent's client as well, or they risk pissing him off.
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On to Gundy:
Only way he would probably take it if he is either:
1) Getting tired of Boone Pickens, regardless of the Currie situation
or
2) Currie is getting fired
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Currie is getting fired
Rumblings
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On to Gundy:
Only way he would probably take it if he is either:
1) Getting tired of Boone Pickens, regardless of the Currie situation
or
2) Currie is getting fired
Doubling his salary may play a factor as well.
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On to Gundy:
Only way he would probably take it if he is either:
1) Getting tired of Boone Pickens, regardless of the Currie situation
or
2) Currie is getting fired
Doubling his salary may play a factor as well.
Absolutely. This might work out best for Gundy as we all said that Tennessee is a 2nd tier and OSU is 2nd tier in the Big 12, in my opinion.
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If OSU is 2nd tier in the Big 12 then first tier consists only of OU. Gundy has a great job. I only see him jumping to Tennessee if he is thinking about retiring and wants to fleece those guys with a ridiculously big contract with a stupidly large guaranteed portion. Then he can just coast.
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So are we hoping Currdogg gets fired? I kinda am. (Never forget.)
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now i think it would be more funny if he doesn't get fired, no one likes him there anymore
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If OSU is 2nd tier in the Big 12 then first tier consists only of OU. Gundy has a great job. I only see him jumping to Tennessee if he is thinking about retiring and wants to fleece those guys with a ridiculously big contract with a stupidly large guaranteed portion. Then he can just coast.
OU and Texas
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So are we hoping Currdogg gets fired? I kinda am. (Never forget.)
i would never hope/wish for someone to lose their job
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So are we hoping Currdogg gets fired? I kinda am. (Never forget.)
i would never hope/wish for someone to lose their job
Oscar
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SB were you rooting for Frank to lose his job up until last year? I wasn't, but he was getting close. Beta move. That fanbase seems like a bunch of wankers now.
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:lol:
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So are we hoping Currdogg gets fired? I kinda am. (Never forget.)
i would never hope/wish for someone to lose their job
Oscar
i just don't want him to be our coach anymore. it's different.
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So are we hoping Currdogg gets fired? I kinda am. (Never forget.)
i would never hope/wish for someone to lose their job
Oscar
i just don't want him to be our coach anymore. it's different.
:Carl:
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I hope Currie stays and hires Kiffin, and then fans give themselves a big pat on the back and Kiffin does exactly what he did last time.
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Yes. Give them what they want and then watch them go apeshit. I'd love to see how this Gottlieb project finally turns out.
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So are we hoping Currdogg gets fired? I kinda am. (Never forget.)
It's hard to tell. He's saying that Jimmy Haslam made him offer Schiano. A bold move Cotton since Jimmy is the one who runs things (for now).
Coincidently, Jimmy Haslam was personally implicated in court today with regard to the Pilot Oil scandal (stealing money from companies buying gas from them).
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So are we hoping Currdogg gets fired? I kinda am. (Never forget.)
It's hard to tell. He's saying that Jimmy Haslam made him offer Schiano. A bold move Cotton since Jimmy is the one who runs things (for now).
Coincidently, Jimmy Haslam was personally implicated in court today with regard to the Pilot Oil scandal (stealing money from companies buying gas from them).
Mike Holder and T Boone Pickens will be a walk in the park compared to Currie and the buffoon Haslam.
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Jimmy Sexton isn't influencing reporting, that's completely insulting to actual real life journalists.
if you don't think that fact that jimmy sexton is also the agent for journalists like pete thamel etc and that influences what he and others who share sexton as an agent write, then I'm not sure what to say. of course it influences what they write. that should just be accepted as fact by everyone and then we move on.
I don't know if Jimmy Sexton represents any of these cfb journos or not, I'm sure he has some of the ex-players. Jimmy Sexton may very well be sending people out to do whatever, but they aren't making up facts, and there are certainly plenty of reporters who aren't tied to Sexton retelling what everyone should have known with regard to Schiano and Penn State.
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If OSU is 2nd tier in the Big 12 then first tier consists only of OU. Gundy has a great job. I only see him jumping to Tennessee if he is thinking about retiring and wants to fleece those guys with a ridiculously big contract with a stupidly large guaranteed portion. Then he can just coast.
Texas and OU is first tier. Everyone else (except KU) is 2nd. KU is 9th. :D
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If OSU is 2nd tier in the Big 12 then first tier consists only of OU. Gundy has a great job. I only see him jumping to Tennessee if he is thinking about retiring and wants to fleece those guys with a ridiculously big contract with a stupidly large guaranteed portion. Then he can just coast.
Yeah, they're second tier, the third tier comprises KU and Baylor. There are six schools in the conference that comprises the middle class.
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So are we hoping Currdogg gets fired? I kinda am. (Never forget.)
It's hard to tell. He's saying that Jimmy Haslam made him offer Schiano. A bold move Cotton since Jimmy is the one who runs things (for now).
Coincidently, Jimmy Haslam was personally implicated in court today with regard to the Pilot Oil scandal (stealing money from companies buying gas from them).
This would not surprise me, now that I think about it after that went down. I was thinking to myself "Why in the world would he hire Schiano after the PSU stuff and his history in the NFL?" It just doesn't make sense.
Case in point, we all know that Currie ran a very active compliance department when he was here, and he would had his staff find stuff, real or imagined. Think of the receipt thing that got one of our players suspended. There's also some others that I'm just forgetting at the moment.
I also have to believe that he was worried about Frank Martin might do something stupid in terms of compliance (along with that I'm sure he just hates him) so tried to find ways to get rid of him. And he hired oscar Weber, who has no history of being involved in any kind of scandals or afoul with the NCAA.
Now he decides to get Schiano? Something just doesn't add up right, and it has to be someone who is very powerful.
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Jimmy Sexton isn't influencing reporting, that's completely insulting to actual real life journalists.
if you don't think that fact that jimmy sexton is also the agent for journalists like pete thamel etc and that influences what he and others who share sexton as an agent write, then I'm not sure what to say. of course it influences what they write. that should just be accepted as fact by everyone and then we move on.
I don't know if Jimmy Sexton represents any of these cfb journos or not, I'm sure he has some of the ex-players. Jimmy Sexton may very well be sending people out to do whatever, but they aren't making up facts, and there are certainly plenty of reporters who aren't tied to Sexton retelling what everyone should have known with regard to Schiano and Penn State.
I mean in a way you do know, because I just told you. his agency represents thamel, herbstreit and other people who came out pretty strong in favor of schiano. if you want to believe that they would have come out just as strong regardless, then knock yourself out. I won't.
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I think plenty of journalists in the business of breaking coaching hiring/firing news would stand to gain something by not pissing of the most powerful agent in college football coaching regardless of whether he represented them or not. But yeah, when he represents them it makes it even more obvious.
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i just think it's a bad look to use whatever ties schiano has to sandusky as a pretext for hating him because they think he's a bad football coach.
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On to Gundy:
Only way he would probably take it if he is either:
1) Getting tired of Boone Pickens, regardless of the Currie situation
or
2) Currie is getting fired
Doubling his salary may play a factor as well.
If I am hearing this correctly, $8.4 million dollars is being floated around for Gundy...
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If they get Gundy, Clay Travis is gonna be insufferable to media types and it's gonna be great theater.
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Jimmy Sexton isn't influencing reporting, that's completely insulting to actual real life journalists.
if you don't think that fact that jimmy sexton is also the agent for journalists like pete thamel etc and that influences what he and others who share sexton as an agent write, then I'm not sure what to say. of course it influences what they write. that should just be accepted as fact by everyone and then we move on.
I don't know if Jimmy Sexton represents any of these cfb journos or not, I'm sure he has some of the ex-players. Jimmy Sexton may very well be sending people out to do whatever, but they aren't making up facts, and there are certainly plenty of reporters who aren't tied to Sexton retelling what everyone should have known with regard to Schiano and Penn State.
I mean in a way you do know, because I just told you. his agency represents thamel, herbstreit and other people who came out pretty strong in favor of schiano. if you want to believe that they would have come out just as strong regardless, then knock yourself out. I won't.
Great, I will. I know what my reaction was and Jimmy Sexton isn't calling me. I would think having a strong reaction to an innocent person being called a pedophile enabler publicly is a human reaction, maybe not for everyone though. :dunno: 48 hours ago I definitely wouldn't have thought that you'd have to hold an agenda to show sympathy.
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Jimmy Sexton isn't influencing reporting, that's completely insulting to actual real life journalists.
if you don't think that fact that jimmy sexton is also the agent for journalists like pete thamel etc and that influences what he and others who share sexton as an agent write, then I'm not sure what to say. of course it influences what they write. that should just be accepted as fact by everyone and then we move on.
I don't know if Jimmy Sexton represents any of these cfb journos or not, I'm sure he has some of the ex-players. Jimmy Sexton may very well be sending people out to do whatever, but they aren't making up facts, and there are certainly plenty of reporters who aren't tied to Sexton retelling what everyone should have known with regard to Schiano and Penn State.
I mean in a way you do know, because I just told you. his agency represents thamel, herbstreit and other people who came out pretty strong in favor of schiano. if you want to believe that they would have come out just as strong regardless, then knock yourself out. I won't.
Great, I will. I know what my reaction was and Jimmy Sexton isn't calling me. I would think having a strong reaction to an innocent person being called a pedophile enabler publicly is a human reaction, maybe not for everyone though. :dunno: 48 hours ago I definitely wouldn't have thought that you'd have to hold an agenda to show sympathy.
I didn’t hear anybody call him a pedophile.
Also, what makes you so sure that he is “innocent”?
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Jimmy Sexton isn't influencing reporting, that's completely insulting to actual real life journalists.
if you don't think that fact that jimmy sexton is also the agent for journalists like pete thamel etc and that influences what he and others who share sexton as an agent write, then I'm not sure what to say. of course it influences what they write. that should just be accepted as fact by everyone and then we move on.
I don't know if Jimmy Sexton represents any of these cfb journos or not, I'm sure he has some of the ex-players. Jimmy Sexton may very well be sending people out to do whatever, but they aren't making up facts, and there are certainly plenty of reporters who aren't tied to Sexton retelling what everyone should have known with regard to Schiano and Penn State.
I mean in a way you do know, because I just told you. his agency represents thamel, herbstreit and other people who came out pretty strong in favor of schiano. if you want to believe that they would have come out just as strong regardless, then knock yourself out. I won't.
Great, I will. I know what my reaction was and Jimmy Sexton isn't calling me. I would think having a strong reaction to an innocent person being called a pedophile enabler publicly is a human reaction, maybe not for everyone though. :dunno: 48 hours ago I definitely wouldn't have thought that you'd have to hold an agenda to show sympathy.
I didn’t hear anybody call him a pedophile.
Also, what makes you so sure that he is “innocent”?
Reading really isnt the general public's strong suit. At risk of coming off as defending MIR, which I'd never do :), I'd challenge folks to do their research on Schiano before making such claims.
Schiano might be an a-hole (asking defense to hit QBs Manning in victory formation, leaking drug test results of players) but the whole connection with Schiano to the PSU stuff is stupid and extremely thin.
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I read the Washington Post article and it certainly isn't a good look for Schiano. I mean it's definitely his word against McQueary but given how many people knew about Sandusky and did nothing, it wouldn't be shocking for Schiano as a young subordinate to Sandusky to see something and also do nothing.
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I read the Washington Post article and it certainly isn't a good look for Schiano. I mean it's definitely his work against McQueary but given how many people knew about Sandusky and did nothing, it wouldn't be shocking for Schiano as a young subordinate to Sandusky to see something and also do nothing.
I tend to agree. Much like Baylor, that program had a warped culture. I tend to think that the stank and weirdness probably rubbed off on most people who spent serious time there.
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Someone on the opposite side of the arena at the Blackhawks - Predators game has a fire Currie sign... Will try for a pic
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rough rider won't hold it up long enough
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God bless them
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LOL. Poor JC.
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Does someone here own firecurrie.com or some comparison of it? Now is the time to sell it!
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I read the Washington Post article and it certainly isn't a good look for Schiano. I mean it's definitely his word against McQueary but given how many people knew about Sandusky and did nothing, it wouldn't be shocking for Schiano as a young subordinate to Sandusky to see something and also do nothing.
Well you need to read it closer, It's not McQueary's word against Schiano's. McQueary said that Tom Bradley said that Schiano told Bradley that he saw Sandusky in the shower with a kid. That means no person in that conversion had first hand knowledge of anything that Schiano saw or didn't see. If Schiano said, "that's not what I said." McQueary can't say "Yes you did" because he has no rough ridin' clue as to what Schiano said. As a matter of fact the two never had a conversation about Sandusky. I'm not sure it's on the record that they've had a conversation about anything, ever.
Let's play this game. Dlew told me that pissclams told him that Rusty saw Ell Roberson rape a girl in Scottsdale Arizona but didn't do anything about it. It would be rough ridin' ridiculous to stick you with the tag of rape enabler simply based on that.
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Sounds like Rusty, he wasn't nice to people in Tampa, so I believe all of that
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I read the Washington Post article and it certainly isn't a good look for Schiano. I mean it's definitely his word against McQueary but given how many people knew about Sandusky and did nothing, it wouldn't be shocking for Schiano as a young subordinate to Sandusky to see something and also do nothing.
Well you need to read it closer, It's not McQueary's word against Schiano's. McQueary said that Tom Bradley said that Schiano told Bradley that he saw Sandusky in the shower with a kid. That means no person in that conversion had first hand knowledge of anything that Schiano saw or didn't see. If Schiano said, "that's not what I said." McQueary can't say "Yes you did" because he has no rough ridin' clue as to what Schiano said. As a matter of fact the two never had a conversation about Sandusky. I'm not sure it's on the record that they've had a conversation about anything, ever.
Let's play this game. Dlew told me that pissclams told him that Rusty saw Ell Roberson rape a girl in Scottsdale Arizona but didn't do anything about it. It would be rough ridin' ridiculous to stick you with the tag of rape enabler simply based on that.
Yeah I guess I do need to read it more closely
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I read the Washington Post article and it certainly isn't a good look for Schiano. I mean it's definitely his word against McQueary but given how many people knew about Sandusky and did nothing, it wouldn't be shocking for Schiano as a young subordinate to Sandusky to see something and also do nothing.
Well you need to read it closer, It's not McQueary's word against Schiano's. McQueary said that Tom Bradley said that Schiano told Bradley that he saw Sandusky in the shower with a kid. That means no person in that conversion had first hand knowledge of anything that Schiano saw or didn't see. If Schiano said, "that's not what I said." McQueary can't say "Yes you did" because he has no rough ridin' clue as to what Schiano said. As a matter of fact the two never had a conversation about Sandusky. I'm not sure it's on the record that they've had a conversation about anything, ever.
Let's play this game. Dlew told me that pissclams told him that Rusty saw Ell Roberson rape a girl in Scottsdale Arizona but didn't do anything about it. It would be rough ridin' ridiculous to stick you with the tag of rape enabler simply based on that.
Yeah I guess I do need to read it more closely
Although it is strange that Schiano was never mentioned/interviewed in the Freh report given this anecdote.
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I read the Washington Post article and it certainly isn't a good look for Schiano. I mean it's definitely his word against McQueary but given how many people knew about Sandusky and did nothing, it wouldn't be shocking for Schiano as a young subordinate to Sandusky to see something and also do nothing.
Well you need to read it closer, It's not McQueary's word against Schiano's. McQueary said that Tom Bradley said that Schiano told Bradley that he saw Sandusky in the shower with a kid. That means no person in that conversion had first hand knowledge of anything that Schiano saw or didn't see. If Schiano said, "that's not what I said." McQueary can't say "Yes you did" because he has no rough ridin' clue as to what Schiano said. As a matter of fact the two never had a conversation about Sandusky. I'm not sure it's on the record that they've had a conversation about anything, ever.
Let's play this game. Dlew told me that pissclams told him that Rusty saw Ell Roberson rape a girl in Scottsdale Arizona but didn't do anything about it. It would be rough ridin' ridiculous to stick you with the tag of rape enabler simply based on that.
Yeah I guess I do need to read it more closely
Although it is strange that Schiano was never mentioned/interviewed in the Freh report given this anecdote.
Because McQueary only mentioned this in an affidavit in his lawsuit against Penn State. I read that's the only time Schiano was ever mentioned on the record in the entire scandal.
It's also worth noting that McQueary accused Schiano, third hand, not under oath, of exactly what McQueary was accused of and he did it trying to get money. It's the the thinnest of thin.
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Currie might have to start offering to suck somebody's dick to come coach now.
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Poor JC is like a drunk monkey with a hand grenade. No wants to be near him.
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I feel bad for big orange though. Nobody’s going to take the job apparently. Not even Vladimir Putin would accept the job.....
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Predator fans want to fire the guy who almost hired a Predator Enabler.
Or something like that.
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SPC, it sounds like our guy Currie might need a purple hug. And a job.
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:lol: From July:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNmjTBIoSqc
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SPC, it sounds like our guy Currie might need a purple hug. And a job.
Just keep him far away from Manhattan.
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Does someone here own firecurrie.com or some comparison of it? Now is the time to sell it!
Checked firecurrie.com and firejohncurrie.com - neither is available
but fire-john-currie.com is... surprised the owner hasn't utilized either yet. Or did JC buy it himself...
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SPC, it sounds like our guy Currie might need a purple hug. And a job.
I won't promise any miracles but I can try.
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KSU v Vandy is getting more and more tempting. Could be some good trolling Saturday night in Nashville. :)
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Does someone here own firecurrie.com or some comparison of it? Now is the time to sell it!
Checked firecurrie.com and firejohncurrie.com - neither is available
but fire-john-currie.com is... surprised the owner hasn't utilized either yet. Or did JC buy it himself...
:D
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Does someone here own firecurrie.com or some comparison of it? Now is the time to sell it!
Checked firecurrie.com and firejohncurrie.com - neither is available
but fire-john-currie.com is... surprised the owner hasn't utilized either yet. Or did JC buy it himself...
:D
Hop over to a vols board and make at least $500
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Does someone here own firecurrie.com or some comparison of it? Now is the time to sell it!
Checked firecurrie.com and firejohncurrie.com - neither is available
but fire-john-currie.com is... surprised the owner hasn't utilized either yet. Or did JC buy it himself...
:D
Hop over to a vols board and make at least $500
Yeah, I'd say the value on that is probably at its peak right now.
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Does someone here own firecurrie.com or some comparison of it? Now is the time to sell it!
Checked firecurrie.com and firejohncurrie.com - neither is available
but fire-john-currie.com is... surprised the owner hasn't utilized either yet. Or did JC buy it himself...
:D
Hop over to a vols board and make at least $500
Yeah, I'd say the value on that is probably at its peak right now.
Not mine, but it belongs to someone here because it redirects to the gE basketball board. Mods?
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I think it's tbt
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@thebigtrain are you going to make some coin here?
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KSU v Vandy is getting more and more tempting. Could be some good trolling Saturday night in Nashville. :)
Find or create a giant hand with a finger pointing, and point it at #oscar. With the other hand, hold a sign that says “John Currie did THAT to my university.”
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KSU v Vandy is getting more and more tempting. Could be some good trolling Saturday night in Nashville. :)
Find or create a giant hand with a finger pointing, and point it at #oscar. With the other hand, hold a sign that says “John Currie did THAT to my university.”
But we're going to beat Vandy :dunno: it's going to be tough to show Currie ruined the program under these particular circumstances.
Maybe hold a giant sign with the truth.
FIRE CURRIE
because his ego will
not allow him to run
an athletic depart...
ment with a coach
who is a star more
popular with the fans
than he is. He'd rather
hire someone he can
control
You'll need to get a seat right behind oscar to maximize screen time and effectiveness.
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Gonna need a banner. :)
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But we're going to beat Vandy :dunno: it's going to be tough to show Currie ruined the program under these particular circumstances.
The finger would be pointing at this, not at whatever the result of the game is.
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:lol: From July:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNmjTBIoSqc
what a dbag
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cut a neighbor's hay to pay for tickets
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cut a neighbor's hay to pay for tickets
That's a referral to the fans being a bunch of "Hayseeds".
:Carl:
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reports out now that Brohm might've also been playing 'ol Tennessee John to renegotiate his contract with purdue :lol:
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reports out now that Brohm might've also been playing 'ol Tennessee John to renegotiate his contract with purdue :lol:
Ole Riley Gates quick to the trigger again. :lol:
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@MakeItRain I was wrong, you were right. Tennessee is not better than Schiano. What a crap show.
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@MakeItRain I was wrong, you were right. Tennessee is not better than Schiano. What a crap show.
they might have been had they not started with him, we'll never know. if they were willing to pay someone 7 mill per year, they could have made a home run hire, now they'll be lucky to lean into a pitch
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Very true. The #BurnITDown crowd headed by Clay Travis has scared everyone out of that job and now a bunch of coaches are getting raises out of it. Hilarious how that works.
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John is going to have to cut all of the hay in rural Tennessee to get out of this mess.
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I hope they have to hire lane kiffen again
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Seems inevitable. That or Herm Edwards.
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They are going to get Tee Martin. I don't even think John could hire Jim McElwain at this point.
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I can't imagine John going after Lane Kiffin, or Mike Leach for that matter if he is still being mentioned.
I'd still put my money on Tee Martin as the mix of willing to take the job and get the fans to acquiesce. Its a super lazy hire though. Currie'll always be the one that preferred Schiano and even Tee Martin's success will hardly help him.
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Like I don't even think I'd want Tee Martin at KSU.
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I bet Craig Bohl would take the Tennessee job.
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I am told that UT AD John Currie made an offer to Jeff Brohm that Brohm accepted. Currie then asked the chancellor to approve the offer — buyout included — and chancellor said no. So Currie went back to Brohm with lesser offer and Brohm said no. So here we are.
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Like I don't even think I'd want Tee Martin at KSU.
The only jobs he's been linked to minus TN before his name got brought up was South Alabama and Georgia Southern. :Yuck:
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The list continues to grow...
The latest target to emerge in Tennessee's head coaching search is NC State's Dave Doeren, and sources told ESPN the two sides are scheduled to have discussions about the Vols' job.
After Mike Gundy decided to stay at Oklahoma State on Tuesday, Tennessee athletic director John Currie shifted his focus to Purdue's Jeff Brohm. The two had discussions about the job, but no deal was reached and Tennessee has moved on from Brohm to Doeren.
The Vols also reached out to Duke's David Cutcliffe about the job earlier in the week, but Cutcliffe told Tennessee officials he intended to finish his coaching career at Duke.
Tennessee officials have also had talks with SMU coach Chad Morris and Auburn defensive coordinator Kevin Steele, as they try to put an end to a whirlwind coaching search to replace Butch Jones, fired Nov. 12.
That search seemingly ended with Ohio State defensive coordinator Greg Schiano on Sunday, but that deal was nixed after fans and state politicians expressed their outrage.
Doeren, in his fifth season at N.C. State, was also in the running for the Ole Miss head job, but the Rebels promoted interim coach Matt Luke to be full-time head coach.
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If I were a Tennessee fan, I'd probably be emailing Currie to call Schiano back at this point.
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They are going to get Tee Martin. I don't even think John could hire Jim McElwain at this point.
Wonder what Prince is doin...
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What an amazing crap show.
Outside of major scandal (ncaa violations, real sex abuse issues) could this process be any worse? Any other examples?
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What an amazing crap show.
Outside of major scandal (ncaa violations, real sex abuse issues) could this process be any worse? Any other examples?
Could end up with oscar from a hotel room in Dallas
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What an amazing crap show.
Outside of major scandal (ncaa violations, real sex abuse issues) could this process be any worse? Any other examples?
Nebraska sending a plane to pick up Houston Nutt in Arkansas and getting snubbed was pretty good.
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VOLS NEED SEAN SNYDER
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What an amazing crap show.
Outside of major scandal (ncaa violations, real sex abuse issues) could this process be any worse? Any other examples?
Nebraska sending a plane to pick up Houston Nutt in Arkansas and getting snubbed was pretty good.
I need to hear more about this.
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@MakeItRain I was wrong, you were right. Tennessee is not better than Schiano. What a crap show.
they might have been had they not started with him, we'll never know. if they were willing to pay someone 7 mill per year, they could have made a home run hire, now they'll be lucky to lean into a pitch
They didn't start with him, it's part of the reason they had such a temper tantrum, they couldn't get Gruden.
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If I were a Tennessee fan, I'd probably be emailing Currie to call Schiano back at this point.
roffle. N.o.b.o.d.y. wants to come here!
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I hope they get Lane and he brings Kendall with him, all of the fans who railed against Schiano won't say crap about it either.
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If I were a Tennessee fan, I'd probably be emailing Currie to call Schiano back at this point.
roffle. N.o.b.o.d.y. wants to come here!
Tell him he has a memorandum of understanding and he owes you money if he doesn't take the job.
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currie is his own worst enemy...the guy had a horrible name in coaching circles after the frank thing and this will make him untouchable
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He needs to just cut to the chase, resign, and take some job with the NCAA.
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He let the bridges he burned light his way and now he is stuck on rocky top island :ROFL:
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At this point, I think the only thing I care about is that Clay Travis hates the hire, whoever that is. I mean, he'll try to convince everyone it's at least better than Schiano, but I want him to show he hates it.
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That Clay Travis tweet about the President shooting down Currie’s offer to Brohm is going to save Currie.
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At this point, I think the only thing I care about is that Clay Travis hates the hire, whoever that is. I mean, he'll try to convince everyone it's at least better than Schiano, but I want him to show he hates it.
He won't hate any hire. He's going to take credit for whomever they end up with. He's a rough ridin' egotistical bad person.
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That Clay Travis tweet about the President shooting down Currie’s offer to Brohm is going to save Currie.
I had the exact opposite thought.
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Who could’ve seen any of this coming?
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https://twitter.com/kristen_andi/status/936014796633333760
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That Clay Travis tweet about the President shooting down Currie’s offer to Brohm is going to save Currie.
I had the exact opposite thought.
It's not Currie's fault that they aren't announcing Brohm as the new coach tomorrow....he had the guy wrapped up. Dang old WOMAN president's fault!!
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What an amazing crap show.
Outside of major scandal (ncaa violations, real sex abuse issues) could this process be any worse? Any other examples?
Nebraska sending a plane to pick up Houston Nutt in Arkansas and getting snubbed was pretty good.
I need to hear more about this.
After canning a coach that went 10-3, and played for a natty two years before, the 'skers rolled up in Husker One expecting to take Nutt with them. He declined and they eventually ended up with Bill "Gold Coin" Callahan.
OMAHA, Neb. -- Long known as a bastion of coaching
stability, Nebraska hasn't been able to find anyone to take over
its football program.
Where most schools go only a few days between the departure of a
coach and the arrival of a new one, Nebraska athletic director
Steve Pederson on Thursday began the 40th day of his search for
Frank Solich's successor.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=1703433
"Had (Nutt) gotten on that plane and gone to Lincoln (Neb.) Jan. 2, the job was his," Sexton told Bo Mattingly, host of "The Trainwreck Show" on ESPN Radio 1190 AM, Friday afternoon. "In fact, there were even discussions about press conferences (announcing Nutt's hiring) the next day.
http://thecabin.net/stories/041704/spo_0417040029.shtml#.Wh863bQ-fVo
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I think there are a lot of coaches that actually do not want to go to the SEC right now... with the dominance that Alabama has laid down on that league a lot of good coaches just feel there is no chance for them to win especially with Saban most likely not going any where any time soon. With coaches only being given 2-3 years now to provide DRASTIC results (conference championships mixed in with CFB playoff potential) or get canned and banished from head coaching forever for a P5 team, they want to make sure they are setting themselves up for a good 6+ years. Why would any decent coach want to do that unless it was their dream job (alma mater, etc.). Chip Kelly had his choice of Florida, UT, and UCLA and he chose the Pac12 school. Multiple coaches have turned down $6+ mill a year for 5+ years to stay where they are.
Mix that in with how UT fans have treated their past few coaches as well as Curries poor reputation with coaches and his new reputation as being publicly incompetent. UT may just have to start looking at the local high schools to find a coach. A coach is already set up to fail/lose by going to UT right now and it is quite sad.
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https://twitter.com/barstooltenn/status/936028281987653632
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https://twitter.com/lane_kiffin/status/936028243177754624
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https://twitter.com/94_vols/status/936033712625635328
https://twitter.com/TFam_1/status/936038275545993218
https://twitter.com/LouisWBIR/status/936036733333966848
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I choose to believe that dog mascot is in on the chant
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https://twitter.com/KeeganMix/status/936038668543975426
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I think they don't like him very much.
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This just keeps getting better and better.
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Whether that dude should have been kicked out or not, what kind of human being doesn't just walk out. Jesus Christ just act like a normal person and you won't end up body slammed.
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Whether that dude should have been kicked out or not, what kind of human being doesn't just walk out. Jesus Christ just act like a normal person and you won't end up body slammed.
#passionatevol
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Whether that dude should have been kicked out or not, what kind of human being doesn't just walk out. Jesus Christ just act like a normal person and you won't end up body slammed.
this is america and you have the right to not be escorted out of a game you paid money for, at a school you go to, and be body slammed just because you started a chant against an administrator. go cross a picket line and be afraid of authority. best of luck.
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I may be way off base here, but I bet that kid was like young Pete, and straight crap faced for the game. Food for thought.
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I may be way off base here, but I bet that kid was like young Pete, and straight crap faced for the game. Food for thought.
i believe you are allowed to be drunk at a sporting event. going to kstate games has led me to believe this.
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Is some redneck gonna beat up currie if he ever returns to tennessee?
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Caption this:
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So glad it’s not here in Manhattan. What a shitshow.
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David Burge
@iowahawkblog
CONSUMER ALERT: If you receive an unfamiliar phone call from area code 865, do NOT answer! It could be the University of Tennessee trying to trick you into accepting a job as head football coach
4:37 PM · Nov 29, 2017
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This is all so familiar it’s scary
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I hope Currie stays and whoever they hire goes 17-19 over 3 seasons, then he gets fired. I want Currie and their idiot fan base to both suffer.
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:surprised:
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savageaf_FAN
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First, Currie continues to show his incompetence in the people management side of being AD and hiring a coach. Brutal. This is actually making me think I'm glad he got oscar when he did, it might have been much worse.
2nd, those fans are crazy. It's like watching Nebraska fans on crack.
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This was in the replies to the Kiffin tweet.
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First, Currie continues to show his incompetence in the people management side of being AD and hiring a coach. Brutal. This is actually making me think I'm glad he got oscar when he did, it might have been much worse.
2nd, those fans are crazy. It's like watching Nebraska fans on crack.
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https://www.rockytoptalk.com/2017/11/29/16717832/aimless-administration-provides-latest-disaster-for-tennessee-football-ut-ncaa-currie-davenport (https://www.rockytoptalk.com/2017/11/29/16717832/aimless-administration-provides-latest-disaster-for-tennessee-football-ut-ncaa-currie-davenport)
What we are left with is two scenarios and they probably intersect in some form or fashion:
John Currie is so incompetent or unaware of his environment that he decided not to get the approval from his boss before he presented Brohm with the terms.
OR
Beverly Davenport is a micromanaging, tone-deaf, and incompetent evaluator when it comes to a hiring a coach.
My money is on both. The Gruesome Twosome have absolutely derailed this program's chance of recovering any momentum back from a 4-8 season. Whatever it is - lack of communication, lack of experience, or simply lack of intelligence - this administration has shown in a very short time that they are unable to run this program at a high level.
Now the program is left scattered, viewed as a national laughingstock and a program that can't get out of its own way. At least we know where to place the blame.
I don't see how Davenport and Currie survive, but with Jimmy Haslam running things it would not surprise me to see them stick around. Haslam is a whole other story for another time.
I guess the bright side is the fact that we don't have to wait five years to find out how shitty these two would be at their jobs like we did with Butch. At this point, you have to wonder, if we would have known how bad these two were - would we have been so ready to fire Butch? It's a question worth asking, but hindsight is 20/20.
And now, as our eyes have been opened once again, we get the privilege of watching this program burn with perfect clarity.
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This is all so familiar it’s scary
It is? To what? I don't remember anything like this, ever.
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This is all so familiar it’s scary
It is? To what? I don't remember anything like this, ever.
Yeah, I wanted to say it, but it's nothing like it. Currie got what he wanted real quick and it was too late for us to complain. If you want to compare the Currie hate, that's fair, but I'd put it on the Chancellor today before Currie.
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lol at taking that clay travis tweet at face value
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2nd, those fans are crazy. It's like watching Nebraska fans on crack.
Remember this elongated fantrum started when butch didn't get fired quickly enough for their liking. Someone tried to orchestrate an empty seat protest at Neyland Stadium for the shitty late season noncon all those bubbas play. Some radio guy asked that people give his radio station unused tickets so disadvantaged families could go, they then protested that dude.
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Whoa. Never heard that.
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:lol:
https://twitter.com/BigOrangeMack/status/936098186510372866
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Yeah, that's gonna go over pretty well....
Sheesh.
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JC should be a boss and like that tweet
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It would be a complete stud move
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Hold on, they tried to bring back Kiffin and were turned down? What????
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Hold on, they tried to bring back Kiffin and were turned down? What????
no. the fans want kiffin but currie hasn't contacted him. it seems that jc has gotten himself into quite the pickle. also, the ventriloquist doll face comment was pretty lol because he actually does kind of have a ventriloquist doll face. not sure how he was here all the time he was and not one of us ever noticed that.
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Maybe Butch Jones would come back and coach them if they gave him a big enough raise.
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https://twitter.com/wesrucker247/status/936120514078232576
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Can this go on forever? I want this to go on forever.
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it's like all this time he kind of looked like something but you never knew what and then a random person tweets out ventriloquist doll face and you're like oh damn, yep that's it.
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https://www.sbnation.com/2017/11/29/16712136/who-really-controls-a-college-football-program
A good read
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Those eyebrows...
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That Blackburn guy had better reeeeeaally want to work at Tennessee. Everyone keeps saying no coach will want to walk into that situation, but what AD is going to want to walk into that mess either?
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ventriloquist doll face :lol: :lol: close this board down. tennessee fans are better at this.
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:lol:
https://twitter.com/BigOrangeMack/status/936098186510372866
They don't want Dave Doren either? JFC.
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https://twitter.com/BradFullington/status/936229466468225026
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:lol:
https://twitter.com/BigOrangeMack/status/936098186510372866
They don't want Dave Doren either? JFC.
yeah. doeren isn't a flashy hire but he wouldn't be a bad get for them at all.
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https://twitter.com/BradFullington/status/936229466468225026
I'm sure this is 100% true :dubious:
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oh man...
now i can't see anything but ventriloquist doll face
grats T :cheers:
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https://twitter.com/BradFullington/status/936229466468225026
I'm sure this is 100% true :dubious:
All these shitty reports coming out. :jerk: Seriously, Twitter is fun, but I barely believe anything I read these days.
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A lot of this now is just made up crap to get people to light a few more torches.
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we should have made him receiptpuku himself back in 2012
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these days
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I'm sure this is 100% true :dubious:
I obviously don’t care about what’s true or how ridiculous their fans are being or what qualifications coaching prospects have. I’m a 1-issue observer/lol’r.
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No way that is true about Gruden, but agree it makes great theater.
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No way that is true about Gruden, but agree it makes great theater.
The Lane Kiffin head coach, Tee Martin as OC, Kevin Steele as DC package deal isn't true either.
Their fans are fvcking idiots.
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We only deal in truth's here at gE.c
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What makes ya'll think Currie wouldn't do that? He is the ultimate micro-manager control freak. He gives up any control and a successful coach could fire him on a whim.
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wow. he does look like a ventriloquist dummy.
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What makes ya'll think Currie wouldn't do that? He is the ultimate micro-manager control freak. He gives up any control and a successful coach could fire him on a whim.
My guess is guys like Jeff Brohm are also hitting him with the complete control demand after hearing about JC's rep and seeing this crap show.
The only coach outside of the UTenn fam that will take this job is a desperate coach - Doren might be that since the AD that hired him is likely to retire in 2019 but I wouldn't bet on Currie lasting that long at UTenn.
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Doeren just turned down the job.
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Doeren just turned down the job.
This is getting hilarious. (I know it's been hilarious the whole time, but even more so I guess)
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Who turns them down next? Sumlin? Leach?
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Leach seems like the best candidate left for them who might actually take it. Leach is weird enough that he might not care about the optics on this getting bungled and be willing to accept it. Of course I can’t imagine he wants to work for an overbearing AD so then again maybe not
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Who turns them down next? Sumlin? Leach?
They could get whoever they want if it wasn't for Currdawg!
https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/936290280772456449
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https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/936290945959591936
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This seems accurate.
https://twitter.com/VOLtron1794/status/936292106884255749
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I would love to see any of those four coaches coexist with Currie.
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The thing is, it really is a mix of Currie, the chancellor, ridiculous donors/fan base, and overall toxicity of the program that have these coaches turning them down, right?
Simply pointing to Currie seems lazy at this point.
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Currie is just going to have to roll up his sleeves and coach this program himself
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Currie is just going to have to roll up his sleeves and coach this program himself
Well this would start a whole nother thread titled "Is Currie a better HC than Sean?"
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Currie is the puppet for Jimmy Haslam, but it's inexplicable to make an offer to Dave Doeren. It is sabotaging the program imo. No other explanation.
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Currie is the puppet for Jimmy Haslam, but it's inexplicable to make an offer to Dave Doeren. It is sabotaging the program imo. No other explanation.
I think things are waaayyyy past that at this point.
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The thing is, it really is a mix of Currie, the chancellor, ridiculous donors/fan base, and overall toxicity of the program that have these coaches turning them down, right?
Simply pointing to Currie seems lazy at this point.
It's become a hornet's nest for sure. Nobody really wants to stick their dick into a hornet's nest.
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tennessee fans get what they deserve for dragging schiano's penn state connections into this.
let'em burn.
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Currie is the puppet ventriloquist dummy for Jimmy Haslam
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tennessee fans get what they deserve for dragging schiano's penn state connections into this.
let'em burn.
That's your takeaway from this? Geez
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The really funny thing, to me, is that Currie is going through all of this, only to be fired in the coming months.
Karma.
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Next man up.
With Doeren staying at NC State, Tennessee plans to talk to former Texas A&M coach Kevin Sumlin, sources tell ESPN.
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https://twitter.com/barrettsallee/status/936295304416059392
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https://twitter.com/barrettsallee/status/936295304416059392
i'm now starting to get a bit worried for Currie's life
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Currie's life will not be pleasant after this. Kevin Sumlin is up next per rumors.
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https://twitter.com/barrettsallee/status/936295304416059392
Of course he wasn’t interested. Kiffin has a ways to go to be a legit P5 HC prospect again. The fact TN fans were clamoring for him recently just shows how far the bar has been lowered due to this complete CF.
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https://twitter.com/barrettsallee/status/936295304416059392
LOL at Lane speaking openly about this. Love it.
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https://twitter.com/barrettsallee/status/936295304416059392
Of course he wasn’t interested. Kiffin has a ways to go to be a legit P5 HC prospect again. The fact TN fans were clamoring for him recently just shows how far the bar has been lowered due to this complete CF.
See, that doesn't matter to me. The interesting part is that Kiffin's doing national interviews today with seemingly no purpose other than to screw with Currie and Tennessee, and without regard for whatever damage it might do to his own reputation or effect on his current team.
I love it.
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tennessee fans get what they deserve for dragging schiano's penn state connections into this.
let'em burn.
That's your takeaway from this? Geez
It's mine. They publicly trash every candidate they have then blame Currie when no one wants to take the job. If you don't think these coaches took note of how they treated Schiano you're kidding yourself. Who, with options, wants to come into this mess. They're now pissed about Doeren when they were shitting on him, three hours ago.
https://twitter.com/barrettsallee/status/936295304416059392
i'm now starting to get a bit worried for Currie's life
This is when they were all in on Gruden. If he hired Lane Kiffin two weeks ago they would have bitched and cried about that too.
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https://twitter.com/barrettsallee/status/936295304416059392
LOL at Lane speaking openly about this. Love it.
Yes, he is owning this thing. Its amazing.
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He already looks good in orange, knows the SEC quite well, and owns Alabama:
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Sumlin is a better coach than everyone they have offered the job to so far except for Gundy. That would be a nice get for John at this point, but he will probably find a way to get told no by a guy who doesn't even have a job.
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He already looks good in orange, knows the SEC quite well, and owns Alabama:
(https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/T_Tuberville.jpg)
:D
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Sumlin is a better coach than everyone they have offered the job to so far except for Gundy. That would be a nice get for John at this point, but he will probably find a way to get told no by a guy who doesn't even have a job.
If I was Sumlin, I would wait for Herm to take ASU job before accepting Tennessee. I think Sumlin might be ASU's 2nd choice, and there are a few obvious reasons to take ASU over Tennessee.
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I really don't get how Les Miles hasn't been given an offer yet. He would dominate the SEC east year in and year out.
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I really don't get how Les Miles hasn't been given an offer yet. He would dominate the SEC east year in and year out.
Yeah
He also owns orange
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tennessee fans get what they deserve for dragging schiano's penn state connections into this.
let'em burn.
That's your takeaway from this? Geez
It's mine. They publicly trash every candidate they have then blame Currie when no one wants to take the job. If you don't think these coaches took note of how they treated Schiano you're kidding yourself. Who, with options, wants to come into this mess. They're now pissed about Doeren when they were shitting on him, three hours ago.
I agree. I don't blame vol fans for lashing out about schiano because they think he's a bad coach. Many of us here (myself included) did the same thing with oscar. Drumming up pretextual pedophilia cover-up allegations against a coach because you think he sucks at coaching is nastiness on another level.
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tennessee fans get what they deserve for dragging schiano's penn state connections into this.
let'em burn.
That's your takeaway from this? Geez
It's mine. They publicly trash every candidate they have then blame Currie when no one wants to take the job. If you don't think these coaches took note of how they treated Schiano you're kidding yourself. Who, with options, wants to come into this mess. They're now pissed about Doeren when they were shitting on him, three hours ago.
I agree. I don't blame vol fans for lashing out about schiano because they think he's a bad coach. Many of us here (myself included) did the same thing with oscar. Drumming up pretextual pedophilia cover-up allegations against a coach because you think he sucks at coaching is nastiness on another level.
You don't think Currie deserves any blame here? Tennessee has had sex scandal issues of their own and there are plenty of coaches with records similar to Schiano that haven't been connected in any way to Sandusky. It's just a tone deaf/idiotic move by Currie, whether or not Schiano deserved to be blamed for allowing Sandusky to continue doing what he was doing.
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I think UT is a parade of idiots and there's plenty of blame to go around -- from JC to Admin to Donors to Fans.
Unfortunately for the narrative of this site, JC probably doesnt even deserve 50% of the blame in the Tenn crap show.
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You don't think Currie deserves any blame here? Tennessee has had sex scandal issues of their own and there are plenty of coaches with records similar to Schiano that haven't been connected in any way to Sandusky. It's just a tone deaf/idiotic move by Currie, whether or not Schiano deserved to be blamed for allowing Sandusky to continue doing what he was doing.
It's all on Currie and Haslam (who made the call imo).
Once he's our coach, he's linked to us. We don't want to be associated with the Ped Staters in any respect. In a vacuum, he's also not a great coach. Thirdly, his name didn't really come out until Sunday morning. They tried to slide that hire by us, and it failed.
So, take your pick as to why you don't want him (1 and 2 above). We can all wait for the next school that offers the HC job to Schiano. Don't hold your breath.
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I think UT is a parade of idiots and there's plenty of blame to go around -- from JC to Admin to Donors to Fans.
Unfortunately for the narrative of this site, JC probably doesnt even deserve 50% of the blame in the Tenn crap show.
God, we agree too much.
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I think UT is a parade of idiots and there's plenty of blame to go around -- from JC to Admin to Donors to Fans.
Unfortunately for the narrative of this site, JC probably doesnt even deserve 50% of the blame in the Tenn crap show.
God, we agree too much.
BIG HUG?
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I think UT is a parade of idiots and there's plenty of blame to go around -- from JC to Admin to Donors to Fans.
Unfortunately for the narrative of this site, JC probably doesnt even deserve 50% of the blame in the Tenn crap show.
God, we agree too much.
Yep. Nobody is saying that Currie would've made a great hire if it did turn out to be Schiano. In that respect, yes, Currie deserves blame for trying to hire a lousy coach.
But guess what, ADs do that crap all the time without fans conjuring up "he was on 'pedo state's [ :facepalm: ] staff!"
In other words, you can criticize a coach or a hire without pinning the candidate as a pedophile-enabler. I feel like I'm in lala-land having to explain this.
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you dudes are ruining this thread with your faux outrage. Let's get this back on track with more lol's about UT and Currie's humiliation
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you dudes are ruining this thread with your faux outrage. Let's get this back on track with more lol's about UT and Currie's humiliation
Nailed it.
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In other words, you can criticize a coach or a hire without pinning the candidate as a pedophile-enabler. I feel like I'm in lala-land having to explain this.
I get it. And Currie could have chosen to hire a coach with a similar resume that wasn't connected to Penn State in any way. It was a dumb move regardless of the fan reaction.
Do you think a program of Tennessee's stature will hire Schiano in the next couple of years?
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any poster who isn't placing 100% of the blame on currie and rejoicing in his downfall is not a true kstate fan. imo.
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You don't think Currie deserves any blame here? Tennessee has had sex scandal issues of their own and there are plenty of coaches with records similar to Schiano that haven't been connected in any way to Sandusky. It's just a tone deaf/idiotic move by Currie, whether or not Schiano deserved to be blamed for allowing Sandusky to continue doing what he was doing.
It's all on Currie and Haslam (who made the call imo).
Once he's our coach, he's linked to us. We don't want to be associated with the Ped Staters in any respect. In a vacuum, he's also not a great coach. Thirdly, his name didn't really come out until Sunday morning. They tried to slide that hire by us, and it failed.
So, take your pick as to why you don't want him (1 and 2 above). We can all wait for the next school that offers the HC job to Schiano. Don't hold your breath.
Yea, he did that to us too... now we have oscar Weber as a BBall coach......
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any poster who isn't placing 100% of the blame on currie and rejoicing in his downfall is not a true kstate fan. imo.
Nailed it.
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What a time to be a Tenn BBS'r. Enjoy orange pride
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Seriously guys, did anyone ever dream we'd get this level of validation of Currie being a POS? Stop nitpicking it.
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K-Stater's hatred of Currie is the reason The Mustang gets to take a nice little carefree afternoon nap in his office every day.
Actually, do we know if he has even started going into the office? HAS ANYONE EVER SEEN GENE IN PERSON?
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I am not sure I care if he goes in the office or not.
As long as I don't have to stumble across videos of him in hard hats and seersucker with a smug look on his face i'm cool with it.
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K-Stater's hatred of Currie is the reason The Mustang gets to take a nice little carefree afternoon nap in his office every day.
Actually, do we know if he has even started going into the office? HAS ANYONE EVER SEEN GENE IN PERSON?
this is a good point. the mustang could still be living in the Dakotas or wherever it was that he was from for all I know. not sure that I'd recognize him if I did see him though. ventriloquist dummy, he is not.
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His name is tay tay
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SEC radio is delicious.
Vol Fan sob fest, and all the other SEC SEC SEC'ers calling in to ask Who TF Tennessee thinks they are, and to laugh at JC, and Vol fans.
It's literally the biggest LOL clown car show in the coaching hiring world since Cornhole's jet sat on 7 tarmacs with no one to take "home".
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Seriously guys, did anyone ever dream we'd get this level of validation of Currie being a POS? Stop nitpicking it.
I'll be honest, I did not... and it feels really good.
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Rumor of Currie's professional demise happening in the near future. Latest rumors are either Sumlin or a Kevin Steele-Tee Martin combo.
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Clay Travis acting like Sumlin is a slam dunk is funny to me. Watching him pat his whole back through this crap show is even more entertaining.
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Currie seems to be a horrible choice for AD at UT. Why are you so glad to see him leave? tia :cheers:
just wanted to quote the original post in this thread for a good lol
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One thing I'm trying to do is ignore Clay Travis. But it's kinda difficult.
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If Sumlin has what it takes to put up with UT after he just got half a decade of A&M then he's one tough SOB
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Who's more racist? A&M or UT?
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aTm by far
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aTm by far
No, no. East Tennessee is full of upland aboriginal type white people like West Virginia who rarely see a black person not in an athletic uniform.
UT ran off Cuonzo Martin with racial slurs and taunting even after he took them to the S16 a few years back.
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One thing I'm trying to do is ignore Clay Travis. But it's kinda difficult.
No one can ignore Clay Travis, not even Clay Travis can ignore Clay Travis. Seriously, I'd bet money his currently jerking himself off to a tweet he put out earlier.
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aTm by far
No, no. East Tennessee is full of upland aboriginal type white people like West Virginia who rarely see a black person not in an athletic uniform.
UT ran off Cuonzo Martin with racial slurs and taunting even after he took them to the S16 a few years back.
Incorrect. Cuonzo underperformed for 2 1/2 years. Fans started a petition to bring back Pearl (which they should have). Pearl loves UT. He hung around here for 3 years waiting for the job to come open again.
The petition lit a fire under Cuonzo's ass. They made it to the sweet 16. After that, I think he flirted with Marquette(?) and then left for Cal.
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Tennessee is just normal sec racist, maybe even less? Idk. A&M is like psycho omg what in the F type racist
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I'm gonna need to compare Cuonzo Martin's fan race hate letters next to Sumlin's to confirm.
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Is Clay Travis like Tennessee's Fitz? BiTB?
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aTm by far
No, no. East Tennessee is full of upland aboriginal type white people like West Virginia who rarely see a black person not in an athletic uniform.
UT ran off Cuonzo Martin with racial slurs and taunting even after he took them to the S16 a few years back.
Incorrect. Cuonzo underperformed for 2 1/2 years. Fans started a petition to bring back Pearl (which they should have). Pearl loves UT. He hung around here for 3 years waiting for the job to come open again.
The petition lit a fire under Cuonzo's ass. They made it to the sweet 16. After that, I think he flirted with Marquette(?) and then left for Cal.
Holy crap. Tennessee fan credits a petition for Martin's success. He literally believes that a guy who grew up in East St. Louis got "a fire lit under his ass" as a result of a bunch of college kids signing a letter online. A man who survived non-Hodgkin's lymphoma was scared straight by a petition.
How did oscar Pearl v. 2.0 work out, by the way? I'm assuming Tennessee fans in their infinite wisdom have been vindicated by his brilliant success and lack of recidivism.
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https://twitter.com/gottliebshow/status/936395077924065280
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https://twitter.com/PreEmptivStrike/status/936383205795561472
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Best guess is he snuck into a construction site, donned a helmet, and is dreaming of simpler times.
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I'm going to feel kind of bad if he killed himself
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https://twitter.com/footballscoop/status/936442905622929408
Never mind he went to the keys to go night fishing with the pirate
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Currie could’ve been eliminated to get Leach. :dunno:
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I'm going to feel kind of bad if he killed himself
to each their own.
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Best guess is he snuck into a construction site, donned a helmet, and is dreaming of simpler times.
College athletics meets Office Space
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At trivia tonight a team's name was "A Bear mumped John Currie"
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Looks like JC is about to give the globe a giant :Flipped off x2:
https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/936455639127248897
https://twitter.com/GaryParrishCBS/status/936458510971424768
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This is the best news for me because I think that Leach is amazingly overrated and with his personality type I think it's going to end real poorly for Leach, Currie, and Tennessee in about two seasons or so. Saban and Alabama may hang a hundo on them next year.
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Agree, this is going to lead to plenty of lols down the line
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Is Clay Travis like Tennessee's Fitz? BiTB?
Honest to Hulk Hogan, I thought this guy was a country music star, but I've become pretty skeptical of that notion over the past couple days with essentially none of the contextual clues pointing in that direction. I also really don't want to look it up, so I'll continue on in ignorance.
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Schulz out-Currie’n Currie? http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21625326/mike-leach-washington-state-met-tennessee-discuss-head-coaching-vacancy
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Wait a minute. Leach tried to pick his own athletic director then got mad that the university president didn't act on his choice right away? :ROFL: you can't make this crap up
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If Leach takes that job, he's telling the fans that they can get whatever they want as long as they throw a big enough tantrum. He'll deserve whatever he gets and will have no right to complain when the inevitable happens.
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Makes sense that Leach would be the only coach willing to join this clown show. Can't wait to see how Curr-dog manages that relationship.
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I really hope Leach doesn't go and this somehow falls apart.
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I really hope Leach doesn't go and this somehow falls apart.
Sounds like a decent chance that happens...
However this whole deal is complicated by the dynamic swirling around within UT’s leadership. We’ve heard from multiple sources there is a lot of in-fighting, finger-pointing and back-stabbing taking place amongst Tennessee brass. As SI reported earlier this week, there is a growing faction at Tennessee pushing to get Currie removed. Former Vols head coach Phil Fulmer is said to be one of those battling with Currie and that could muck up the process to reel in Leach.
A source told SI earlier this week that even though Currie is very intrigued with Leach, the fact that he has sued an employer before gives them pause.
https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/12/01/mike-leach-tennessee-football-coach
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Same sort of article: https://sports.yahoo.com/sources-mike-leach-targeted-tennessee-coaching-search-061800207.html
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https://twitter.com/clowespn/status/936599413656641536
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Wait a minute. Leach tried to pick his own athletic director then got mad that the university president didn't act on his choice right away? :ROFL: you can't make this crap up
Here was the cliffs notes version of that whole thing:
https://twitter.com/BonaguraESPN/status/936485902578196480
Some coug fans are trying to spin the meeting as Leach having interviewed Currie for the coug AD job.
I still think the two of them are gonna swap schools, if anything.
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Currie just met with Chancellor. Possibly fired. Possibly stripped of certain powers.
Another rumor that he went rogue and tried to hire leach without the blessings of the Haslams.
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:lol:
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https://twitter.com/MichaelReports/status/936601760428384257
https://twitter.com/TreyW_Radio/status/936606349022187520
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Forced to look for receipts in trash cans for remainder of contract
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(https://i.imgur.com/grjgV4y.gif)
:gocho: :cheers: :lol:
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"Stripped of his powers"? What could that possibly even mean in a non-termination scenario?
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He manages the bean counting and someone else deals with personnel
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Meh. There's been so much #FakeNews out there. I'd just wait and see. :bwpopcorn:
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:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :party:
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https://twitter.com/ChynnaGreene/status/936609718403035139
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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things have been so boring around here at least this has given me some bbs excitement this week. the UT fball search and drama has been the best katz bbsing in months.
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I'm not a Currie fan, but if going after Leach was the straw that broke the camel's back, that's BS. That's the biggest set of balls he's shown as an AD.
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Incredible. This whole thing has been like a dream scenario for K-State Currie haters.
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How long before Currie is Washinton States AD?
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also I want a list of all the smug ksu bbsers who thought currie was good at being a big time athletic director. the dude didn't last a year at a school not named kansas state. completely and totally inept.
i'll go easier on you if you out yourself here in this thread. if I have dig around and find you all out on my own, it's going to be much, much worse for you.
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I'm not a Currie fan, but if going after Leach was the straw that broke the camel's back, that's BS. That's the biggest set of balls he's shown as an AD.
Wors on twitter is that the Haslam family (Owners of part of the Browns) forced the admin to fire Currie over him going rogue and offering Leach.
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also I want a list of all the smug ksu bbsers who thought currie was good at being a big time athletic director. the dude didn't last a year at a school not named kansas state. completely and totally inept.
i'll go easier on you if you out yourself here in this thread. if I have dig around and find you all out on my own, it's going to be much, much worse for you.
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I'm not a Currie fan, but if going after Leach was the straw that broke the camel's back, that's BS. That's the biggest set of balls he's shown as an AD.
Wors on twitter is that the Haslam family (Owners of part of the Browns) forced the admin to fire Currie over him going rogue and offering Leach.
Same ppl who wouldn't sign off on Brohm's buyout? That admin deserves to suffer.
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This is insane.
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/936614721284911104
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How long before Currie is Washinton States AD?
I recall them having some grand search plan that was to end in February, but if Currie's available to Schulz now, it'll probably be done within a couple weeks.
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I've crap on Currie a lot this week, but I think he's about 33% of the problem there.
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This is insane.
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/936614721284911104
This is the greatest crap show in CFB in a very very long time and I want more! :ROFL:
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This aged well.
https://twitter.com/OldTakesExposed/status/936611588735369216
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The fact that Currie was about to hire Leach when he was fired will be something great for their fans to recall when their next coach is sucking ass.
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Another one that LHC Bill Snyder outlasts.
Bill is walking with a spring in his step today. Probably feels like a spring chicken.
:billdance:
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https://twitter.com/Charlie_Burris/status/936616813676433408
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https://twitter.com/Charlie_Burris/status/936616813676433408
Not even George R. R. Martin could write this story line...
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If these media dudes would stop showing production assistants their flaccid dicks this story should be on every network morning show. I need Robin Roberts interviewing a weepy but defiant John Currie on GMA next week, name names, tell where the bodies are.
He's also definitely going to testify for Greg Schiano in that inevitable lawsuit, right?
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God I hope there's a 30 for 30 on this someday.
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/936617516402606081
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https://twitter.com/Charlie_Burris/status/936616813676433408
All of this for Tee Martin. It looks like you anti-currites, Garth, and Ernie Barrett just didn't want Brad Underwood badly enough.
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Yup
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UT fans have clearly shown that they throw a finely orchestrated hissy fit the likes of which we couldn't come close to mustering
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And thank god for that.
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It will be fun watching them cannibalize Fulmer when his pick doesn't pan out.
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Fulmer won't get hired before they give the job to Tee Martin.
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I really enjoyed this response on twitter
https://twitter.com/ALLENCV/status/936618490668179457
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If Fulmer wanted to be AD, why the eff didn't he do it in February??
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Fulmer won't get hired before they give the job to Tee Martin.
Fulmer has already been "hired".
Sources told ESPN that former Hall of Fame coach Phillip Fulmer, now serving as a special adviser to university president Joe DiPietro, will take a more active role in helping the Vols land a coach.
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I've crap on Currie a lot this week, but I think he's about 33% of the problem there.
The Haslams have been the problem for a long time. They hired Currie to be their puppet. Currie went rogue last night and nobody knew where he was.
The Fulmer-Majors and especially the Fulmer-Kiffin rift also plays into the coming hire. Highly doubtful that Kiffin gets a second chance if Fulmer is made AD.
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The way basically everyone in this country loves America's team, the KSU Cats... will be the exact opposite of how this country now feels about UT, so easy to hate and cheer against.
Literally the ugliest, grossest, most annoying, smelliest teams/coaches/donors/fan base/town in the US.
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Tennessee is mumped. You’re done with Currie but you’re stuck with Fulmer, Haslam (who thinks of himself as part of the AD), the rest of their athletic department, batshit BOT, and absurd fans. That athletic department is toxic and will undoubtedly result in more trash football.
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If Fulmer wanted to be AD, why the eff didn't he do it in February??
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He tried to. The admin said nah for Currie
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If Fulmer wanted to be AD, why the eff didn't he do it in February??
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He tried to. The admin said nah for Currie
Yeah. He had "forces" at work against him.
Mathews said recent speculation about Currie’s disdain for Fulmer was real. Mathews said that when Currie was an assistant AD at Tennessee about a decade ago, Currie told boosters that Fulmer “was ‘a portly person who didn’t know who his father was.’ You can kind of figure out the slang from all of that.”
http://gridironnow.com/phillip-fulmer-no-chance-tennessee-athletic-director/
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If Fulmer wanted to be AD, why the eff didn't he do it in February??
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He tried to. The admin said nah for Currie
Jimmy Haslam said no to Fulmer and Blackburn
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This has been more entertaining than some of the games we've played this season.
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I've crap on Currie a lot this week, but I think he's about 33% of the problem there.
The Haslams have been the problem for a long time. They hired Currie to be their puppet. Currie went rogue last night and nobody knew where he was.
The Fulmer-Majors and especially the Fulmer-Kiffin rift also plays into the coming hire. Highly doubtful that Kiffin gets a second chance if Fulmer is made AD.
Currie didnt go Rogue. He got called home by Bev and Haslam -- and Currie was quiet the whole way with his tail between his legs.
My prediction is Fulmer doesnt become AD, he just finds the next coach (if even that).
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I've crap on Currie a lot this week, but I think he's about 33% of the problem there.
The Haslams have been the problem for a long time. They hired Currie to be their puppet. Currie went rogue last night and nobody knew where he was.
The Fulmer-Majors and especially the Fulmer-Kiffin rift also plays into the coming hire. Highly doubtful that Kiffin gets a second chance if Fulmer is made AD.
Currie didnt go Rogue. He got called home by Bev and Haslam -- and Currie was quiet the whole way with his tail between his legs.
My prediction is Fulmer doesnt become AD, he just finds the next coach (if even that).
He went to LA and nobody knew where he was. I think he met with Leach and then came back. Fired at 9am this morning.
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Would love it if new AD comes in and gets Gundy.
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What if I told you the most powerful man in Knoxville wasn’t the most powerful man in Knoxville...
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If Fulmer wanted to be AD, why the eff didn't he do it in February??
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He tried to. The admin said nah for Currie
Yeah. He had "forces" at work against him.
Mathews said recent speculation about Currie’s disdain for Fulmer was real. Mathews said that when Currie was an assistant AD at Tennessee about a decade ago, Currie told boosters that Fulmer “was ‘a portly person who didn’t know who his father was.’ You can kind of figure out the slang from all of that.”
http://gridironnow.com/phillip-fulmer-no-chance-tennessee-athletic-director/
That's amazing
http://www.gifbin.com/bin/052009/1243271414_black_guy_laughing.gif (http://www.gifbin.com/bin/052009/1243271414_black_guy_laughing.gif)
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The way basically everyone in this country loves America's team, the KSU Cats... will be the exact opposite of how this country now feels about UT, so easy to hate and cheer against.
Literally the ugliest, grossest, most annoying, smelliest teams/coaches/donors/fan base/town in the US.
Tee Martin will have to take that job and I'll feel real sorry for him.
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I feel 20 feet tall today!
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also I want a list of all the smug ksu bbsers who thought currie was good at being a big time athletic director. the dude didn't last a year at a school not named kansas state. completely and totally inept.
i'll go easier on you if you out yourself here in this thread. if I have dig around and find you all out on my own, it's going to be much, much worse for you.
I defended him while recognizing his shitty crap.
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This has been even more entertaining than I could have imagined. Now we just need a really good twist like Fuller hires Sciano or brings back Butch Jones for $8 million / year.
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If Fulmer picks his coach like he did his players, his man is Art Briles.
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https://twitter.com/ByBerkowitz/status/936622426213027840
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This was taken earlier this morning outside the UT athletics building
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Scott Tenorman!
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I’m on vacation right now without a computer. Can someone go over to.volsnation or volnation or whatever it is, and copy-paste some gems into this thread? Tia.
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Better yet, somebody go to volnation and start a thread dropping a link to this thread.
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Can't post over there yet. Waiting on moderator approval.
There are a few JC sympathizers:
http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/286445-currie-pawn-scapegoat.html (http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-football/286445-currie-pawn-scapegoat.html)
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I've been lurking around this thread for a while now. There seems to be a lot of judgement being thrown around in here about TN fans. What's the deal?
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I've been lurking around this thread for a while now. There seems to be a lot of judgement being thrown around in here about TN fans. What's the deal?
some of us (myself included) were unimpressed with the flimsy pedophilia reasoning for criticizing the potential schiano hire.
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I've been lurking around this thread for a while now. There seems to be a lot of judgement being thrown around in here about TN fans. What's the deal?
You guys think you are Bama, but really you're more like Vanderbilt. Not sure what the confusion is :dunno:
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I think the Tennessee fans as a whole are great.
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I've been lurking around this thread for a while now. There seems to be a lot of judgement being thrown around in here about TN fans. What's the deal?
some of us (myself included) were unimpressed with the flimsy pedophilia reasoning for criticizing the potential schiano hire.
Yeah. That was a lame excuse for the most part and anyone who reads past a headline gets it. Also, it’s hilarious how unrealistic and entitled Tennessee fans are acting. I mean, you’ve had the last THREE of your coaches (!!!) blow up in your face, yet you act like you deserve Bear Bryant. Btw, I never understood the Jon Gruden myopia, and a lot of people feel that way. I mean my god, the guy hasn’t even been a coach for over a decade.
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I would be very unhappy if we ever hire anyone who worked for Joe Paterno. I wouldn't make statements like "Schiano covered child rape" but it would still be all but impossible for me to support him as coach at Kansas State, even if he had a better record as head coach.
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I would be very unhappy if we ever hire anyone who worked for Joe Paterno. I wouldn't make statements like "Schiano covered child rape" but it would still be all but impossible for me to support him as coach at Kansas State, even if he had a better record as head coach.
yeah. I mean Schiano's next job sure as hell isn't gonna be as good as Tennessee. I'd be shocked if he can get a P5 HC job anywhere. Folks can blame UT fans all they want, but there's something there and they didn't just invent it.
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I've been lurking around this thread for a while now. There seems to be a lot of judgement being thrown around in here about TN fans. What's the deal?
When I think Tennessee, I think Clay Travis. Case Closed!
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I pass no judgment on TN fans. Everything they get they brought on themselves. It just happens to be very fun to watch from here.
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I would be very unhappy if we ever hire anyone who worked for Joe Paterno. I wouldn't make statements like "Schiano covered child rape" but it would still be all but impossible for me to support him as coach at Kansas State, even if he had a better record as head coach.
Sure, I get that. The mob was definitely over the top with it though, considering how little involvement he had (if at all). I don’t have a dog in the Greg Schiano fight at all; zero opinion on the guy either way, really. But it was very transparent where Vol fans’ real priorities were with that.
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Also, Tennessee is a good enough job that the fans should expect the school to at least try to get a coach that will compete for championships and not immediately go after Schiano as soon as Jon Gruden turns them down. The "who do they think they are?" talk is pretty ridiculous.
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Yeah, maybe. I really don’t have strong opinions on this either way except that I have loved watching every second of this disaster. Every time I think about feeling bad for Currie, my mind goes back to that trash can at Dillons, and my scadenfreude kicks in all over again.
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some of us (myself included) were unimpressed with the flimsy pedophilia reasoning for criticizing the potential schiano hire.
Ok, long story short... Mike McQueary testified under oath that Schiano saw something. Schiano was never deposed but was asked and denied the claim that he saw anything. You've got one guy testifying under oath, under possible penalty of perjury and the other guy who was never sworn in who denied it. Whether or not Schiano truly saw anything or not none of us will probably ever know for sure. The point is doubt was cast against his character and it's become questionable at best. I personally was not among the group either on campus or online who was actively spreading word.
You guys think you are Bama, but really you're more like Vanderbilt. Not sure what the confusion is :dunno:
No, we do not think we're Bama but we're historically a prominent and passionate, D1, SEC football school that pulls in enough money to be in the mix for proven coaches. The real problem Tennessee fans have now are with the administration and one booster in particular, Jimmy Haslam. This guy has dictatorship like control over our program and we're done with it. Haslam has a say in every major decision that UT makes. He gets to hand pick his administration(Beverly Davenport, John Currie, Reid Sigmon) and these people are basically his yes men. UT fans didn't want John Currie, we had zero input into that. That was all Haslam. Because Haslam doesn't know what he's doing(which is woefully evident by his continued ramming into the ground of the Cleveland Browns) he wouldn't know what a good head football coach was if one hit him upside the head. We are frustrated with losing and being a down program and that fool is perpetuating it by trying to cram through his friends and acquaintances simply because that's what he wants and he's got his daddy's money to do it.
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Also, Tennessee is a good enough job that the fans should expect the school to at least try to get a coach that will compete for championships and not immediately go after Schiano as soon as Jon Gruden turns them down. The "who do they think they are?" talk is pretty ridiculous.
Yes! Thank you!
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Phillip Fulmer just became the new AD at TN.
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Has anyone said that Tenn fans are dicking themselves pretty hard by the non stop chanting? They are going to end up with Fulmer as their new AD
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I judge that you people played your role perfectly, as far as my interests go.
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Has anyone said that Tenn fans are dicking themselves pretty hard by the non stop chanting? They are going to end up with Fulmer as their new AD
Too late.
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At least Leach won't be going to Tennessee. If he was leaving for another conference I'd prefer to see him go Big 12 (though it'd be a headache) or Big 10, somewhere in the Midwest where real football is played.
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LOL, chant some more you twits
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some of us (myself included) were unimpressed with the flimsy pedophilia reasoning for criticizing the potential schiano hire.
Ok, long story short... Mike McQueary testified under oath that Schiano saw something. Schiano was never deposed
no, McQueary said somebody else said schiano saw something
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some of us (myself included) were unimpressed with the flimsy pedophilia reasoning for criticizing the potential schiano hire.
Ok, long story short... Mike McQueary testified under oath that Schiano saw something. Schiano was never deposed but was asked and denied the claim that he saw anything. You've got one guy testifying under oath, under possible penalty of perjury and the other guy who was never sworn in who denied it. Whether or not Schiano truly saw anything or not none of us will probably ever know for sure. The point is doubt was cast against his character and it's become questionable at best. I personally was not among the group either on campus or online who was actively spreading word.
You guys think you are Bama, but really you're more like Vanderbilt. Not sure what the confusion is :dunno:
No, we do not think we're Bama but we're historically a prominent and passionate, D1, SEC football school that pulls in enough money to be in the mix for proven coaches. The real problem Tennessee fans have now are with the administration and one booster in particular, Jimmy Haslam. This guy has dictatorship like control over our program and we're done with it. Haslam has a say in every major decision that UT makes. He gets to hand pick his administration(Beverly Davenport, John Currie, Reid Sigmon) and these people are basically his yes men. UT fans didn't want John Currie, we had zero input into that. That was all Haslam. Because Haslam doesn't know what he's doing(which is woefully evident by his continued ramming into the ground of the Cleveland Browns) he wouldn't know what a good head football coach was if one hit him upside the head. We are frustrated with losing and being a down program and that fool is perpetuating it by trying to cram through his friends and acquaintances simply because that's what he wants and he's got his daddy's money to do it.
Spend less time reading this board and maybe read just one article on the McQueary deposition.
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Spend less time reading this board and maybe read just one article on the McQueary deposition.
I'm good, that ship has sailed.
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And that’s why people talk crap on Vols fans. You guys were never truly interested in Schiano’s connection to the Sandusky scandal, you just needed an excuse to crucify a guy who wasn’t Jon Gruden.
Btw, while you’re here, run down for me why everyone thought Gruden was the guy. (I don’t follow nfl enough to truly understand it.)
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Btw, let the record show that I absolutely respect the zeal and nastiness of Vols fans to not settle for a guy that was not their standard. If only we had mustered that kind of enthusiasm when Currie introduced oscar rough ridin' Weber, we wouldn’t be in this pickle.
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Also, get more Vols fans to post here. We all hate CurrDogg, so this is a welcome place.
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Phil gets the last laugh.
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/936694547354091521
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I think the Tennessee fans as a whole are great.
Agreed. The ones that came to Dallas in '99-00 for the ass whipping in the Cotton Bowl were nice.
Maybe they've changed since then though.
:dunno:
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Also, get more Vols fans to post here. We all hate CurrDogg, so this is a welcome place.
No. We finally got all the stink out from the Auburn fans.
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Also, get more Vols fans to post here. We all hate CurrDogg, so this is a welcome place.
No. We finally got all the stink out from the Auburn fans.
I think that was the Arkansas smell that was lingering
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Can we get a link to the press conference coming up in here? :bwpopcorn:
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Spend less time reading this board and maybe read just one article on the McQueary deposition.
I prefer a version of the truth that fits my narrative.
Most people do.
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God I hope there's a 30 for 30 on this someday.
https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/936617516402606081
They shot themselves in the c0ck?
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And that’s why people talk crap on Vols fans. You guys were never truly interested in Schiano’s connection to the Sandusky scandal, you just needed an excuse to crucify a guy who wasn’t Jon Gruden.
Btw, while you’re here, run down for me why everyone thought Gruden was the guy. (I don’t follow nfl enough to truly understand it.)
Ok, The Gruden thing is insanity. Everyone DIDN'T think Gruden was actually the guy it was a select delusional few that actually did. The reason it blew up in the media is because nobody definitively said otherwise on either side to shoot down the rumors. Gruden never openly said he wasn't coming to TN, his latest quote was "never say never". John Currie or someone else in UT's administration could have shot down those rumors before they exploded but chose not to. Ultimately that decision probably hurt him. Here is the real kicker though, this isn't the first time the Grumor nonsense has occurred. The whole Gruden thing played out for the first time back in 2012 during the coaching search that would ultimately hire Butch Jones. Naturally everyone that was gullible and hopeful that Gruden would take the job was heartbroken and devastated when it didn't pan out. You'd think people would have learned from the first time around but apparently not so round two was birthed and it drew even more interest.
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Maybe you can get that tumor growing out of Peyton's forehead to come coach for you.
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Maybe you can get that tumor growing out of Peyton's forehead to come coach for you.
:lol:
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Maybe you can get that tumor growing out of Peyton's forehead to come coach for you.
Lol! That's another small faction of misinformed fans among Volnation, Peyton Manning's forehead becoming the head coach at TN or Peyton Manning himself. The man is a legend but he has no interest in becoming the head coach at TN. Why risk possibly tainting your legacy by becoming the head coach of TN where it "might" work out? Realistically if he wanted to coach he'd could probably succeed as a decent OC. He'd obviously be an excellent QB coach as well(of which he's technically already been with the QB camps that he runs). Again though, he's not interested.
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The best part of all of this is the victors then turning the sword on themselves.
The fact that so many Vol fans believe that UT is some kind of elite football program is pretty comical. UT hasn't done crap in 20 years.
Who wants to go work at a school that literally eats their own at the drop of a hat? Nobody beyond mediocrity, that's who.
Plus, the whole coaching search was so John Currie, I can just see that little weirdo telling himself he had this over and and over.
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Was it Phil Fulmer that KSU destroyed in the 2001 Cotton Bowl Classic?
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The best part of all of this is the victors then turning the sword on themselves.
The fact that so many Vol fans believe that UT is some kind of elite football program is pretty comical. UT hasn't done crap in 20 years.
Who wants to go work at a school that literally eats their own at the drop of a hat? Nobody beyond mediocrity, that's who.
Plus, the whole coaching search was so John Currie, I can just see that little weirdo telling himself he had this over and and over.
TN is actually is an elite football program, it just hasn't appeared that way since 2007.
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Was it Phil Fulmer that KSU destroyed in the 2001 Cotton Bowl Classic?
You beat us but at 35-21 "destruction" is quite an overstatement.
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The best part of all of this is the victors then turning the sword on themselves.
The fact that so many Vol fans believe that UT is some kind of elite football program is pretty comical. UT hasn't done crap in 20 years.
Who wants to go work at a school that literally eats their own at the drop of a hat? Nobody beyond mediocrity, that's who.
Plus, the whole coaching search was so John Currie, I can just see that little weirdo telling himself he had this over and and over.
TN is actually is an elite football program, it just hasn't appeared that way since 2007.
Tennessee was 16th in the country in 2007, that's not elite.
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Tennessee was 16th in the country in 2007, that's not elite.
Your definition of elite would be?
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Tennessee was 16th in the country in 2007, that's not elite.
Your definition of elite would be?
Not Tennessee
Come on man, it's been TWENTY years since Tenn won a conference championship, TWO DECADES
Tennessee is a good football program, not an Elite football program. Alabama is an ELITE football program, Ohio State is an ELITE football program.
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Clingers. Just like guns and Bibles.
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Complete lack of leadership and AD's that had no idea what they were doing. Haslams running the show on top of that. No chance to be great with no commitment to winning.
We will be elite again soon. :cheers:
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We will be elite again soon. :cheers:
Cute. Nebraska keeps telling us that too.
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The best part of all of this is the victors then turning the sword on themselves.
The fact that so many Vol fans believe that UT is some kind of elite football program is pretty comical. UT hasn't done crap in 20 years.
Who wants to go work at a school that literally eats their own at the drop of a hat? Nobody beyond mediocrity, that's who.
Plus, the whole coaching search was so John Currie, I can just see that little weirdo telling himself he had this over and and over.
TN is actually is an elite football program, it just hasn't appeared that way since 2007.
I changed my mind, you guys are nothing like Vanderbilt people.... you're twins with Nebraska fans. That feels like a better fit.
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We will be elite again soon. :cheers:
Cute. Nebraska keeps telling us that too.
Oh c'mon! You couldn't wait 2 minutes for me to post my Nebraska joke first?
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Knoxbraska
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They're not delusional at all... :D
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you guys can trash tennessee all you want but I honestly think they are a top 30-35ish cfb job.
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Was it Phil Fulmer that KSU destroyed in the 2001 Cotton Bowl Classic?
You beat us but at 35-21 "destruction" is quite an overstatement.
The game wasn't nearly as close as the score...even Fulmer called it a "good old fashioned ass whoopin'" and he was correct.
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you guys can trash tennessee all you want but I honestly think they are a top 30-35ish cfb job.
So not quite Vandy and Kentucky but trending that direction.
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Btw, let the record show that I absolutely respect the zeal and nastiness of Vols fans to not settle for a guy that was not their standard. If only we had mustered that kind of enthusiasm when Currie introduced oscar rough ridin' Weber, we wouldn’t be in this pickle.
you can bet your ass that if oscar was even in the same room as JoePa I would have absolutely accused him of covering up pedophilia in order for him to not coach at KSU.
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you guys can trash tennessee all you want but I honestly think they are a top 30-35ish cfb job.
So not quite Vandy and Kentucky but trending that direction.
again, trash them all you want but there are 14 sec teams and I'd put them no worse than 8th/9th.
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Elite progams get their 8th option as a coach all the time
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The best part of all of this is the victors then turning the sword on themselves.
The fact that so many Vol fans believe that UT is some kind of elite football program is pretty comical. UT hasn't done crap in 20 years.
Who wants to go work at a school that literally eats their own at the drop of a hat? Nobody beyond mediocrity, that's who.
Plus, the whole coaching search was so John Currie, I can just see that little weirdo telling himself he had this over and and over.
TN is actually is an elite football program, it just hasn't appeared that way since 2007.
Holy crap :lol: and so is KU, it just hasn't appeared that way since 2008
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The best part of all of this is the victors then turning the sword on themselves.
The fact that so many Vol fans believe that UT is some kind of elite football program is pretty comical. UT hasn't done crap in 20 years.
Who wants to go work at a school that literally eats their own at the drop of a hat? Nobody beyond mediocrity, that's who.
Plus, the whole coaching search was so John Currie, I can just see that little weirdo telling himself he had this over and and over.
TN is actually is an elite football program, it just hasn't appeared that way since 2007.
Holy crap :lol: and so is KU, it just hasn't appeared that way since 2008
:ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:
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They claim 4 national titles in years they weren't even ranked number one.
:lol:
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Was it Phil Fulmer that KSU destroyed in the 2001 Cotton Bowl Classic?
You beat us but at 35-21 "destruction" is quite an overstatement.
I was there and it wasn't nearly as close as the score would indicate...
TU got a int return to make the first half look respectable and then a late 4Q TD run to close it to within two TD's but it was a total beatdown from start to finish.
https://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/scores101/101001/101001312.htm
:buh-bye:
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They claim 4 national titles in years they weren't even ranked number one.
:lol:
Wait.... are we talking about aggy or TN?
:lol: :lol:
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They claim 4 national titles in years they weren't even ranked number one.
:lol:
Wait.... are we talking about aggy or TN?
:lol: :lol:
UT
1938: TCU national champs, UT 2nd but claims it.
1940: Minnesota national champs, UT 4th but claims it.
1950: OU national champs, UT 4th but claims it.
1967: USC national champs, UT 2nd but claims it.
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It's a good day guys! Currie got sent packing!
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My boss at the time was a UT grad. It was fun mushing his face in that ass whooping.
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man, I bet Currie just feels like a crushed dove right now
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man, I bet Currie just feels like a crushed dove right now
wow that's a great blast from the past
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they owe him 5 million unless they can prove cause for termination, hopefully they can.
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Btw, let the record show that I absolutely respect the zeal and nastiness of Vols fans to not settle for a guy that was not their standard. If only we had mustered that kind of enthusiasm when Currie introduced oscar rough ridin' Weber, we wouldn’t be in this pickle.
you can bet your ass that if oscar was even in the same room as JoePa I would have absolutely accused him of covering up pedophilia in order for him to not coach at KSU.
At least gE.c rumors are cheeky and fun. Like when we started that rumor that Weber was dumping us for the Marquette job. But to so flippantly accuse someone of enabling child molestation... That's just tragic and sad.
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The best part of all of this is the victors then turning the sword on themselves.
The fact that so many Vol fans believe that UT is some kind of elite football program is pretty comical. UT hasn't done crap in 20 years.
Who wants to go work at a school that literally eats their own at the drop of a hat? Nobody beyond mediocrity, that's who.
Plus, the whole coaching search was so John Currie, I can just see that little weirdo telling himself he had this over and and over.
Dax, who got eaten? :sdeek:
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man, I bet Currie just feels like a crushed dove right now
wow that's a great blast from the past
I can't believe this press conference isn't on youtube.
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I mean it was kind of impromptu and in his own driveway, so....
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they owe him 5 million unless they can prove cause for termination, hopefully they can.
Officially he is suspended by the university. Hopefully that is in some way going to lead to cause.
At least gE.c rumors are cheeky and fun. Like when we started that rumor that Weber was dumping us for the Marquette job. But to so flippantly accuse someone of enabling child molestation... That's just tragic and sad.
Tennessee didn't flippantly accuse anyone of enabling child molestation, all of that information in the court documents was made available in 2016. There were plenty of other reporters and outlets claiming he was involved well before you THINK Tennessee just fans made it up. If you want to throw daggers then throw them at Keith Sargeant at nj.com http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2016/07/former_rutgers_coach_and_current_ohio_state_assist.html , or throw them at Mike McQueary, or throw them at Paul Myerberg of USA Today https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bigten/2016/07/12/penn-state-greg-schiano-tom-bradley-awareness-jerry-sandusky-sex-abuse/86988886/ or countless other outlets that were reporting that info.
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What do you suspect Tennessee fans would have done in a hypothetical scenario where Jon Gruden’s name had been hearsay connected to the Penn State scandal instead of Greg Schiano’s? Exact same reaction?
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man, I bet Currie just feels like a crushed dove right now
wow that's a great blast from the past
I can't believe this press conference isn't on youtube.
Here you go...
https://www.facebook.com/GoVols247/videos/1698556130195375/
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they owe him 5 million unless they can prove cause for termination, hopefully they can.
Officially he is suspended by the university. Hopefully that is in some way going to lead to cause.
At least gE.c rumors are cheeky and fun. Like when we started that rumor that Weber was dumping us for the Marquette job. But to so flippantly accuse someone of enabling child molestation... That's just tragic and sad.
Tennessee didn't flippantly accuse anyone of enabling child molestation, all of that information in the court documents was made available in 2016. There were plenty of other reporters and outlets claiming he was involved well before you THINK Tennessee just fans made it up. If you want to throw daggers then throw them at Keith Sargeant at nj.com http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2016/07/former_rutgers_coach_and_current_ohio_state_assist.html , or throw them at Mike McQueary, or throw them at Paul Myerberg of USA Today https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bigten/2016/07/12/penn-state-greg-schiano-tom-bradley-awareness-jerry-sandusky-sex-abuse/86988886/ or countless other outlets that were reporting that info.
https://twitter.com/madisenkeavy/status/934887202429046784
Can I throw daggers at these guys or...?
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man, I bet Currie just feels like a crushed dove right now
wow that's a great blast from the past
I can't believe this press conference isn't on youtube.
Here you go...
https://www.facebook.com/GoVols247/videos/1698556130195375/
Several weeks ago I asked him to lead a search for our next football coach. He was given FULL authority find the best coach for Tennessee.
:lol:
She forgot to add "That's why we should focus on me firing John, and not me for choosing John over this dude sitting to my right, in the first place...even though like everyone who knows that rough rider John said don't do it. LOL at me."
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I don’t care about tennessee. Glad our guy Curt could find some enjoyment in all this today.
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they owe him 5 million unless they can prove cause for termination, hopefully they can.
Officially he is suspended by the university. Hopefully that is in some way going to lead to cause.
At least gE.c rumors are cheeky and fun. Like when we started that rumor that Weber was dumping us for the Marquette job. But to so flippantly accuse someone of enabling child molestation... That's just tragic and sad.
Tennessee didn't flippantly accuse anyone of enabling child molestation, all of that information in the court documents was made available in 2016. There were plenty of other reporters and outlets claiming he was involved well before you THINK Tennessee just fans made it up. If you want to throw daggers then throw them at Keith Sargeant at nj.com http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/index.ssf/2016/07/former_rutgers_coach_and_current_ohio_state_assist.html , or throw them at Mike McQueary, or throw them at Paul Myerberg of USA Today https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/bigten/2016/07/12/penn-state-greg-schiano-tom-bradley-awareness-jerry-sandusky-sex-abuse/86988886/ or countless other outlets that were reporting that info.
https://twitter.com/madisenkeavy/status/934887202429046784
Can I throw daggers at these guys or...?
I'm all for it. They're delusional.
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https://twitter.com/bradfullington/status/936721400747974657
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The Johnny-Phil rivalry has been boiling for 25 years. It's really something to behold. Johnny supporters will always think that Phil stabbed him in the back in 1992 and kicked a man while he was down.
Phil had an unprecedented run in the 90s and won a MNC. He lost the 2001 SEC championship game to a backup QB. His teams after that underperformed. We knew it was over when he lost to Vandy in 2005. He stubbornly held on for 3 more years, but Phil supporters will always say that he was done wrong.
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Holy crap
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https://twitter.com/bradfullington/status/936721400747974657
That booster is my new hero.
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Damn the ink didnt even dry on Currie’s termination papers before Fullmers wikipedia was updated lol. Wonder what Curries says about him
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Currie's not giving up on his career yet. He will leak some info but he's not going to say crap right now other than thanks for the opportunity.
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Our facilities will be the highlight of Currie’s career
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Damn the ink didnt even dry on Currie’s termination papers before Fullmers wikipedia was updated lol. Wonder what Curries says about him
I wonder what AD Gene Taylor’s says about him
Oh wait he doesn’t even have one
Does Gene Taylor even exist?
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https://twitter.com/PreEmptivStrike/status/936383205795561472
I'm hearing separately from Tennessee and Wazzu people that currie went to LA and met w/Leach on his own. Like the plane he took was a buddy's hookup of his, not Tennessee's, and that the meeting was for Leach to vet Currie as an adequate WSU AD, and that's the cause that Tennessee's gonna try to fire Currie for and not pay him. Sounds rough ridin' crazy but would be fantastic.
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https://twitter.com/PreEmptivStrike/status/936383205795561472
I'm hearing separately from Tennessee and Wazzu people that currie went to LA and met w/Leach on his own. Like the plane he took was a buddy's hookup of his, not Tennessee's, and that the meeting was for Leach to vet Currie as an adequate WSU AD, and that's the cause that Tennessee's gonna try to fire Currie for and not pay him. Sounds rough ridin' crazy but would be fantastic.
I'm not sure Wazzu even has sports fans but if they do they certainly have literally been handed the blueprint over the last few weeks to make sure Currie isn't their AD come Monday.
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The Johnny-Phil rivalry has been boiling for 25 years. It's really something to behold. Johnny supporters will always think that Phil stabbed him in the back in 1992 and kicked a man while he was down.
Phil had an unprecedented run in the 90s and won a MNC. He lost the 2001 SEC championship game to a backup QB. His teams after that underperformed. We knew it was over when he lost to Vandy in 2005. He stubbornly held on for 3 more years, but Phil supporters will always say that he was done wrong.
Fulmer went 14-10 in the SEC in those last three years. Tennessee is 23-49 since then.
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Omglol
https://mobile.twitter.com/OfficialCSO/status/936617077246447616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23936617077246447616
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Sad this thread has cooled off, because there are a million more LOLs still coming out of that dumpster firing. https://mobile.twitter.com/RicFlairNatrBoy/status/936650846082949121?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%23936650846082949121
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skinnybenny bro love your zeal, you know you can paste tweets into the thread directly?
https://twitter.com/RicFlairNatrBoy/status/936650846082949121
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Havin troubs on mobile
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Havin troubs on mobile
You can either copy directly from the app or if you're using a mobile browser just remove the word mobile and the following dot from the url after you paste
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T-y to my IRL bud MIR :cheers:
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Clay Travis laying out the crap storm front to back. Pretty good one.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1754006961300511&id=217976018236954
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No rough ridin' chance I'm watching that
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Do it. The inner workings of UT athletics revealed. Pretty good.
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Clay travis is the definition of a downgrade
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Wonder who UT will get after this crap show.
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Also, does anyone know where JC is hiding?
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Also, does anyone know where JC is hiding?
House guest of Kirk Schulz, most likely.
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Also, does anyone know where JC is hiding?
House guest of Kirk Schulz, most likely.
My thoughts too. LOL
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Clay travis is the definition of a downgrade
Without a doubt. 100% trash but he knows UT football.
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Clay Travis laying out the crap storm front to back. Pretty good one.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1754006961300511&id=217976018236954
At the 12:25 mark he says "Greg Schiano is the guy that Currie wanted to hire to replace LHC Bill Snyder at Kansas State."
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I was hoping somebody would listen....
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I was hoping somebody would listen....
It WAS really entertaining. I too am not the world's biggest Clay Travis fan, but I do tend to believe his side of this story.....which is that this is all just one big revolt against the Hasslem family and their stooge John Currie.
I actually admire the UT fans for doing that. I wish that it didn't have to have involve the Penn State stuff, but oh well.
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That part seems incongruous with the part about Schiano being the guy that the Haslams wanted for Tennessee.
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That part seems incongruous with the part about Schiano being the guy that the Haslams wanted for Tennessee.
Meh, the rich family wants who they want. It's not for us to understand, only to observe.
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As much as i hate to admit it, Fulmer will probably actually land a good hire. Now that Currie is gone, he will go after candidates "too dirty" for ole clean as a moneys ass Currie. Plus he can sell them on the idea that the crap show was JC, not UT nation.
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it’s might be Petrino unless Gus goes to Ark and Auburn finally gets him
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it’s might be Petrino unless Gus goes to Ark and Auburn finally gets him
IIRC, media types had speculated that Petrino had some sort of a man-to-man promise to Tom Zurich, the Louisville AD, that he wouldn't eff him over again.
If suspended University of Louisville athletic director Tom Jurich never returns to his job, head football coach Bobby Petrino could save millions of dollars should he leave Louisville before his contract expires.
That's because Petrino's employment contract specifies that he has to pay a penalty if he leaves the Cardinals. The amount varies over time. This year, it would cost him $8 million. In 2023, the final year of the deal, the bill would be $5 million.
But there's a catch: The penalty drops by half if Jurich is not the athletic director.
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/louisville/2017/10/05/university-louisville-bobby-petrino-buyout-tom-jurich-football-cardinals/708580001/
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there are middle aged multi millionaires lining up from Mobile to Murfreesboro to play that buyout
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I like Clay's insights here, but I think Schiano to KSU was a stretch. JC was just haslams puppet on that one.
Interesting to hear of the Peyton Manning theory on franchise ownership as well.
FTR, I am not a fan of Clay but he does bring good hot takes on the UT dumpster fire.
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As much as i hate to admit it, Fulmer will probably actually land a good hire. Now that Currie is gone, he will go after candidates "too dirty" for ole clean as a moneys ass Currie. Plus he can sell them on the idea that the crap show was JC, not UT nation.
If this is true, UT fans can start rolling out the red carpet for Briles.
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Manning's image was tarnished quite a bit in the last 10 days. He had to call other Vol players to inform them about (and sell them on) the potential Schiano hire. Speculation is that he is aligning himself with the also tarnished Haslams in order to get into NFL franchise ownership down the road.
Many were hoping that the golden boy would be the one to lead us out of the wilderness.
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It goes on for at least 12 minutes? Yeah DEFINITELY not watching that
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I like Clay's insights here, but I think Schiano to KSU was a stretch. JC was just haslams puppet on that one.
Interesting to hear of the Peyton Manning theory on franchise ownership as well.
FTR, I am not a fan of Clay but he does bring good hot takes on the UT dumpster fire.
0% chance Currie was going to hire Schiano at K-State or at least had it preplanned. Schiano had just been DC for 1 year at OSU and was out of coaching for 3 years before that
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I was hoping somebody would listen....
It WAS really entertaining. I too am not the world's biggest Clay Travis fan, but I do tend to believe his side of this story.....which is that this is all just one big revolt against the Hasslem family and their stooge John Currie.
I actually admire the UT fans for doing that. I wish that it didn't have to have involve the Penn State stuff, but oh well.
One of the reasons I didn't listen is that he's lied/been wrong about some of this Tennessee stuff more than once, he has no credibility. He's just a fan that has some donors as sources. There is no way possible he could tie Schiano and K-State with any certainty, he's guessing. It never got close to that point here, if it did the Capital-Journal would have uncovered something about him when their open records request was honored.
He's a loudmouth, dipshit, liar and I'd love to tell him so but he'd get hard from the attention.
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LOL. That would be interesting.
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As much as i hate to admit it, Fulmer will probably actually land a good hire. Now that Currie is gone, he will go after candidates "too dirty" for ole clean as a moneys ass Currie. Plus he can sell them on the idea that the crap show was JC, not UT nation.
Is he banking on hiring a hearing impaired illiterate? Their ceiling is Lane, they will be hiring either Tee Martin or one of the coaches I have on my K-State list in one of the Sean threads.
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Does this count as a sliverbacking?
https://twitter.com/AustinStanley81/status/937324235902603264
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Does this count as a sliverbacking?
https://twitter.com/AustinStanley81/status/937324235902603264
This makes me happy. I'm happy that it happened but even more happy that people found out about it and it's now "public" knowledge.
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So bill forced currie out at kstate and then ultimately got him fired from the next gig? That is just poetry.
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WSU is terrified of Currie
https://247sports.com/college/washington-state/Article/Commentary-Why-Washington-State-shouldnt-allow-John-Currie-within-100-miles-of-Bohler-111572991
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What booster let Currie take his plane all over?
Moreover, per sources, UT has initiated the process to dispatch Currie with cause on the heels of insubordination claims. Among the most egregious of the claims, per multiple sources including some in the legal community and on the Tennessee campus, when urged to return home last week as the search dissolved into a national punchline, Currie instead opted to utilize the private aircraft of a Kansas State booster to continue trying to find Butch Jones’ replacement.
“That’s why no one knew where he was after he left (being turned down by N.C. State head coach Dave Doeren,” a source explained.
http://gridironnow.com/phil-fulmer-continuing-interview-candidates-volunteers-opening/
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Austin Stanley is a Vols lackey. Of course sources are telling him this. Fulmer and the university want to save face and blame it all on others. I’m sure some people talked to Bill. I’m also sure Fulmer actively prevented any coaches from going to UT
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LOL. What in the world? Ain't no KSU booster sharing his plane with JC.
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What booster let Currie take his plane all over?
Moreover, per sources, UT has initiated the process to dispatch Currie with cause on the heels of insubordination claims. Among the most egregious of the claims, per multiple sources including some in the legal community and on the Tennessee campus, when urged to return home last week as the search dissolved into a national punchline, Currie instead opted to utilize the private aircraft of a Kansas State booster to continue trying to find Butch Jones’ replacement.
“That’s why no one knew where he was after he left (being turned down by N.C. State head coach Dave Doeren,” a source explained.
http://gridironnow.com/phil-fulmer-continuing-interview-candidates-volunteers-opening/
Anyone else have big issues with this from a purely K-State perspective?
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What booster let Currie take his plane all over?
Moreover, per sources, UT has initiated the process to dispatch Currie with cause on the heels of insubordination claims. Among the most egregious of the claims, per multiple sources including some in the legal community and on the Tennessee campus, when urged to return home last week as the search dissolved into a national punchline, Currie instead opted to utilize the private aircraft of a Kansas State booster to continue trying to find Butch Jones’ replacement.
“That’s why no one knew where he was after he left (being turned down by N.C. State head coach Dave Doeren,” a source explained.
http://gridironnow.com/phil-fulmer-continuing-interview-candidates-volunteers-opening/
Anyone else have big issues with this from a purely K-State perspective?
Why is that an issue for K-State? Likely the boosters who are tired of the annual vigil on the decision.
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What booster let Currie take his plane all over?
Moreover, per sources, UT has initiated the process to dispatch Currie with cause on the heels of insubordination claims. Among the most egregious of the claims, per multiple sources including some in the legal community and on the Tennessee campus, when urged to return home last week as the search dissolved into a national punchline, Currie instead opted to utilize the private aircraft of a Kansas State booster to continue trying to find Butch Jones’ replacement.
“That’s why no one knew where he was after he left (being turned down by N.C. State head coach Dave Doeren,” a source explained.
http://gridironnow.com/phil-fulmer-continuing-interview-candidates-volunteers-opening/
Anyone else have big issues with this from a purely K-State perspective?
Why is that an issue for K-State? Likely the boosters who are tired of the annual vigil on the decision.
Honestly I'm not sure how I feel about it. The situation doesn't feel "right" to me. Like we shouldn't have well placed members of our community messing around in the internal workings of another AD, especially something like a coaching search where things can get nasty (ie Tennessee's crap show).
Also I'm not sure what you mean by the annual vigil on the decision. Not trying to be snarky, mind is not working right now with a headache.
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The annual decision.
I don't consider meddling in anyone else's business.
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LOL. What in the world? Ain't no KSU booster sharing his plane with JC.
Why wouldn't they? I bet I could guess whose plane it was.
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what is the annual decision?
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LOL. What in the world? Ain't no KSU booster sharing his plane with JC.
Why wouldn't they? I bet I could guess whose plane it was.
I just can't see wanting to be involved in that dumpster fire. You have to know it's coming out sooner or later.
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what is the annual decision?
Bill's retirement? :dunno:
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oh wait, i get it. dax thinks a :kstategrad: is pissed that snyder won't announce when he's retiring so they let currie use the plane instead of just like assuming that currie and the :kstategrad: have a good relationship
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LOL. What in the world? Ain't no KSU booster sharing his plane with JC.
Why wouldn't they? I bet I could guess whose plane it was.
I just can't see wanting to be involved in that dumpster fire. You have to know it's coming out sooner or later.
Right but there are no repercussions.
When you gave railroad money who, that you care about, is going to mock you?
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oh wait, i get it. dax thinks a :kstategrad: is pissed that snyder won't announce when he's retiring so they let currie use the plane instead of just like assuming that currie and the :kstategrad: have a good relationship
WITW
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oh wait, i get it. dax thinks a :kstategrad: is pissed that snyder won't announce when he's retiring so they let currie use the plane instead of just like assuming that currie and the :kstategrad: have a good relationship
Why would anybody think that letting Currie use the jet moves the needle on Snyder?
Weird
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What booster let Currie take his plane all over?
Moreover, per sources, UT has initiated the process to dispatch Currie with cause on the heels of insubordination claims. Among the most egregious of the claims, per multiple sources including some in the legal community and on the Tennessee campus, when urged to return home last week as the search dissolved into a national punchline, Currie instead opted to utilize the private aircraft of a Kansas State booster to continue trying to find Butch Jones’ replacement.
“That’s why no one knew where he was after he left (being turned down by N.C. State head coach Dave Doeren,” a source explained.
http://gridironnow.com/phil-fulmer-continuing-interview-candidates-volunteers-opening/
This smells like bull crap. Or, at the very least if true not in the way presented. I like the theory that I read either here or botc that suggested Currie and/or Schulz had seen the (short term) future and that Currie was meeting with Leach at Schulz behest to get a jump on getting fired to see if the two could get along amicably. In 'that' scenario I could see a Schulz-friendly KSU booster allowing use of their private jet - but not in any other. (also note I didn't say I'd support that usage, just that I could see it)
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oh wait, i get it. dax thinks a :kstategrad: is pissed that snyder won't announce when he's retiring so they let currie use the plane instead of just like assuming that currie and the :kstategrad: have a good relationship
Why would anybody think that letting Currie use the jet moves the needle on Snyder?
Weird
I don't look at it so much as Currie moving the needle on Snyder after his departure, but that there is a deep split in our AD between boosters who love Currie enough to attach our name, tangentially, to a dumpster fire of a coaching search by letting him use a private jet to fly around the country in a national crap show. And Bill and his camp of people.
I'm probably reading too much into that, admittedly, but it makes from some interesting conspiracy theories.
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LOL. What in the world? Ain't no KSU booster sharing his plane with JC.
Why wouldn't they? I bet I could guess whose plane it was.
I just can't see wanting to be involved in that dumpster fire. You have to know it's coming out sooner or later.
Right but there are no repercussions.
When you gave railroad money who, that you care about, is going to mock you?
Come on man that's pretty weird
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oh wait, i get it. dax thinks a :kstategrad: is pissed that snyder won't announce when he's retiring so they let currie use the plane instead of just like assuming that currie and the :kstategrad: have a good relationship
Why would anybody think that letting Currie use the jet moves the needle on Snyder?
Weird
I don't look at it so much as Currie moving the needle on Snyder after his departure, but that there is a deep split in our AD between boosters who love Currie enough to attach our name, tangentially, to a dumpster fire of a coaching search by letting him use a private jet to fly around the country in a national crap show. And Bill and his camp of people.
I'm probably reading too much into that, admittedly, but it makes from some interesting conspiracy theories.
You're reading to much into it. Have a good day, friend.
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LOL. What in the world? Ain't no KSU booster sharing his plane with JC.
Why wouldn't they? I bet I could guess whose plane it was.
It damn sure wasn't my 172!
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LOL. What in the world? Ain't no KSU booster sharing his plane with JC.
Why wouldn't they? I bet I could guess whose plane it was.
I just can't see wanting to be involved in that dumpster fire. You have to know it's coming out sooner or later.
Right but there are no repercussions.
When you gave railroad money who, that you care about, is going to mock you?
True. Eff you money has its privileges.
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It's very strange but I really don't care what KSU boosters do with their private jets. Hopefully they'll be able to write that crap off soon! :kstategrad:
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I will say it's thought K-State Carl is still really close with Currie, as many big donors are as well. And recently there are grumblings of him not being a fan of Bill holding the program hostage and Gene Taylor sitting around doing nothing about it.
No idea if any of that is completely true, or if the plane use is related to any of this. Just good BBS fodder.
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Seems way more likely to me that John asked his rich friend (who he happened to know from his time at K-State) if he could charter his jet for a while. Just because someone gives $$$ to KSU doesn't mean he stops knowing people like Currie the minute they leave.
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I wouldn't be opposed to bringing that weasel back in strictly a fund-raising/facilities role. Just keep him away from an NCAA compliance role or any involvement with the coaching staff at all.
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I wouldn't be opposed to bringing that weasel back in strictly a fund-raising/facilities role. Just keep him away from an NCAA compliance role or any involvement with the coaching staff at all.
kindly see yourself to the rough ridin' door
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Would absolutely love to see Currie grovel his way back here only to have The Mustang laff in his face and silverback the crap out of him.
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I wouldn't be opposed to bringing that weasel back in strictly a fund-raising/facilities role. Just keep him away from an NCAA compliance role or any involvement with the coaching staff at all.
Do you by chance own a private jet?
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:lol:
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Wait, they fired Currie so they could hire a guy that was a position coach on MTV's Two-A-Day's?
What a joke that school/program is.
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I wouldn't be opposed to bringing that weasel back in strictly a fund-raising/facilities role. Just keep him away from an NCAA compliance role or any involvement with the coaching staff at all.
BITB says fundraising for athletic facilities is literally the easiest thing in the world to do so this doesn't make any sense.
:billdance:
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I wouldn't be opposed to bringing that weasel back in strictly a fund-raising/facilities role. Just keep him away from an NCAA compliance role or any involvement with the coaching staff at all.
BITB says fundraising for athletic facilities is literally the easiest thing in the world to do so this doesn't make any sense.
:billdance:
I heard that. In an off-season of incredibly stupid hot takes, that one was far and away the dumbest.
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So where is John Currie? Hiding? Hanging around with The Animal?
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https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/wsu-cougar-football/wsu-president-kirk-schulz-addresses-mike-leachs-future-and-the-cougars-athletic-director-search/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=article_title_1.1 (https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/wsu-cougar-football/wsu-president-kirk-schulz-addresses-mike-leachs-future-and-the-cougars-athletic-director-search/?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=article_title_1.1)
FWIW:
However, Schulz did put one rumor to rest: Former Tennessee AD John Currie, whom the Vols suspended last Friday after his reported meeting with Leach, will not be a candidate for the WSU athletic director job, Schulz said.
Currie’s relationship with Schulz dates back to the president’s Kansas State days, when he hired Currie to be the Wildcats’ athletic director in 2009. Currie left Kansas State for Tennessee in February, but was suspended last week and replaced by Phil Fulmer.
“John is not a candidate and would not be an appropriate hire for us at this time,” Schulz said Friday. “John’s got to resolve his issues with Tennessee and is in the middle of a legal battle. We have other terrific candidates who have expressed strong interest.”
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I wouldn't be opposed to bringing that weasel back in strictly a fund-raising/facilities role. Just keep him away from an NCAA compliance role or any involvement with the coaching staff at all.
BITB says fundraising for athletic facilities is literally the easiest thing in the world to do so this doesn't make any sense.
:billdance:
If true, KU must have a worse AD than they do head football coach.
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Et tu, the animal?
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KU should hire Currie.
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KU should hire Currie.
He and Zenger as KU Co-Athletic Directors.
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KU should hire Currie.
KU wouldn't have a football team still NOR a basketball team... Currie would find receipts for days over there and would bench the entire Athletics department.
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Clay Travis cost Schiano $28 mil.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21742751/greg-schiano-earned-277m-6-plus-years-scrapped-tennessee-deal
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https://twitter.com/darrenrovell/status/940345114580471810
This is interesting. The MOU was signed by Currie and Schiano. There are signature lines for the Chancellor and CFO, but the MOU does not state that their consent is necessary to bind the University. Tennessee is (unsurprisingly) claiming that their lack of signatures means the MOU was not fully executed. Yet you do have representatives from either side signing it. Considering there is somewhere around $19 million on the line I would definitely expect a lawsuit unless Schiano is worried about pulling a Leach and risking further job prospects by suing the school.
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Any more about UT pursuing paying currie $0 ?
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I am dying to see the legal battle that ensues here. We probably won't know much of anything about it though, right? I assume this'll end in a settlement and everybody will keep their mouths shut about the terms and the discussions that led to those terms? That would be a shame, because I have been following this crap like it's the OJ trial, and I want to hear every single gory detail.
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I am dying to see the legal battle that ensues here. We probably won't know much of anything about it though, right? I assume this'll end in a settlement and everybody will keep their mouths shut about the terms and the discussions that led to those terms? That would be a shame, because I have been following this crap like it's the OJ trial, and I want to hear every single gory detail.
In my mind these proceedings will play out in a 2 story un-airconditioned courtroom with balcony seating up top and everyone fanning themselves, wearing seersucker and saying things like "iffidta please the court" and "objeksheein yawnuh!" And of course "why I do declare!"
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Yep. Couple “big city LAWYER” references, etc
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I wouldn't be opposed to bringing that weasel back in strictly a fund-raising/facilities role. Just keep him away from an NCAA compliance role or any involvement with the coaching staff at all.
BITB says fundraising for athletic facilities is literally the easiest thing in the world to do so this doesn't make any sense.
:billdance:
I heard that. In an off-season of incredibly stupid hot takes, that one was far and away the dumbest.
Yes. Relative to the subject matter, an absolutely idiotic take by BITB.
When it comes to the actual business of collegiate athletics, he's possibly the WITB, just awful.
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I am dying to see the legal battle that ensues here. We probably won't know much of anything about it though, right? I assume this'll end in a settlement and everybody will keep their mouths shut about the terms and the discussions that led to those terms? That would be a shame, because I have been following this crap like it's the OJ trial, and I want to hear every single gory detail.
In my mind these proceedings will play out in a 2 story un-airconditioned courtroom with balcony seating up top and everyone fanning themselves, wearing seersucker and saying things like "iffidta please the court" and "objeksheein yawnuh!" And of course "why I do declare!"
like the movie “a time to kill”
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I think jc would be more my cousin Vinny-ey
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it'll all settle.
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it'll all settle.
In your professional opinion how much of the 5 million dollars will currie receive in settlement? About tree fitty?
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it'll all settle.
In your professional opinion how much of the 5 million dollars will currie receive in settlement? About tree fitty?
in my professional opinion i have no idea. haven't seen his contract.
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Tennessee should pay Currie 0%. It doesn't matter whether they ultimately have to pay Schiano or not; the mere act of putting them in a position where they have to litigate/settle paying a coach that never coached is sufficient to fire Currie for cause.
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But most Universities have incompetent administrators taking advice from incompetent in-house legal counsel. So who knows. I know I would litigate the hell out of it if I were calling the shots at Tennessee.
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Steffy is a regular Harvey Specter
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it'll all settle.
In your professional opinion how much of the 5 million dollars will currie receive in settlement? About tree fitty?
in my professional opinion i have no idea. haven't seen his contract.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3480519-Contract-for-Tennessee-AD-John-Currie.html (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3480519-Contract-for-Tennessee-AD-John-Currie.html)
Here you go homie
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it'll all settle.
In your professional opinion how much of the 5 million dollars will currie receive in settlement? About tree fitty?
in my professional opinion i have no idea. haven't seen his contract.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3480519-Contract-for-Tennessee-AD-John-Currie.html (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3480519-Contract-for-Tennessee-AD-John-Currie.html)
Here you go homie
doesn't really help. gonna depend on whether he was fired "for cause," a definition not supplied by that MOU.
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They suspended him with pay pursuant to that contract, giving them the 60 days to investigate the "cause." They'll probably take most of that to figure out how hard they want to push the issue.
The "cause" won't be being shitty at AD'n, it'll be insubordination for entering into agreements he wasn't authorized to and/or defying orders, particularly at the end when he'd "gone rogue."
Likely w/some time to spare in that 60 days, they'll pitch at Currie's lawyer how strong of a case they think they have and propose a settlement where he only gets a fraction of what he'd be entitled to if terminated without cause. They'll probably hope that Currie is the sort who will put higher value than most on not having "terminated with cause" on his official record.
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i just don't get how they could say he entered into any agreement when the agreement wasn't official until it was signed by the people who would approve such a thing
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They suspended him with pay pursuant to that contract, giving them the 60 days to investigate the "cause." They'll probably take most of that to figure out how hard they want to push the issue.
The "cause" won't be being shitty at AD'n, it'll be insubordination for entering into agreements he wasn't authorized to and/or defying orders, particularly at the end when he'd "gone rogue."
Likely w/some time to spare in that 60 days, they'll pitch at Currie's lawyer how strong of a case they think they have and propose a settlement where he only gets a fraction of what he'd be entitled to if terminated without cause. They'll probably hope that Currie is the sort who will put higher value than most on not having "terminated with cause" on his official record.
Now THAT is a professional opinion!
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i just don't get how they could say he entered into any agreement when the agreement wasn't official until it was signed by the people who would approve such a thing
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/apparent_authority
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Whether Currie had agency to bind the other signatories is very much in doubt, and in fact I would think he did not.
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Is flying to LA to meet with leach to be vetted for a new job while you should be trying to hire a coach for your current employer in play here?
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Is flying to LA to meet with leach to be vetted for a new job while you should be trying to hire a coach for your current employer in play here?
Yes, whatever he was doing in LA after his boss told him to get back to tennessee is probably more in play than the deal he made with Schiano or anyone else earlier in the week.
I don't think they're going to come up with anything that will be a slam-dunk for a "cause" finding. They'll just take all the crap and tell him that's what they're going to fight over and they'll probably all agree that everyone's better off resolving it quietly.
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i just don't get how they could say he entered into any agreement when the agreement wasn't official until it was signed by the people who would approve such a thing
What makes you sure their signatures were necessary? I don't ask that rhetorically. I just have not seen anything clearly saying they were. Assuming they were, it could matter whether Schiano was aware of that.
Doesn't seem like a stretch to me to expect an AD has the authority to hire a head football coach. No one looks at the chancellor or CFO when a HC turns out to be a crappy hire.
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Didn't the document require Pres sigs?
Johnny just stepped up to the laptop, opened up Word and typed out an MOU?
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I only skimmed the MOU, but I did not see anything in the document saying it required certain signatures to be effective. The fact it was based on a form actually would help Schiano, since it would help explain (under his theory) why there were signature blanks on the final page for people who did not need to approve the MOU for it to be binding.
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http://www.knoxnews.com/story/sports/college/university-of-tennessee/football/2017/12/14/tennessee-vols-football-arizona-state-ad-ray-anderson-phillip-fulmer-pariah-dennis-dodd/953526001/
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Currie seemed to be on more solid ground than Bob Krause with the "secret" Ron Prince agreement--the one K-State subsequently paid to Prince.
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settlement will be announced today or tomorrow, probably around 3 million
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Schiano’s settlement I assume?
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Was juuuuust wondering about this.
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https://www.knoxnews.com/story/sports/college/university-of-tennessee/football/2018/03/12/john-currie-robert-morris-tennessee-vols-fired-athletic-director-ad-suspended-phillip-fulmer/416240002/
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Schiano’s settlement I assume?
Currie's
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Schiano’s settlement I assume?
https://www.knoxnews.com/story/sports/college/university-of-tennessee/football/2018/03/04/ut-vols-tennessee-football-john-currie-phil-fulmer-butch-jones-fired-suspended-ad-settlement/358869002/
(this is not the same link BTW)
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https://twitter.com/VolWire/status/976948905576341505
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settlement will be announced today or tomorrow, probably around 3 million
Yikes you were way off
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https://twitter.com/John_Currie/status/976975419101536257
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That curry is a sly motha lol
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Currie and Dan Wolken were texting buds, huh?
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https://247sports.com/college/tennessee/Article/Tennessee-Vols-coaching-search-timeline-John-Currie-Mike-Gundy-Mike-Leach-Dan-Mullen-Dave-Doeren-116582734
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Local coverage
https://www.knoxnews.com/story/sports/college/university-of-tennessee/football/2018/03/23/john-currie-tennessee-vols-football-ut-greg-schiano-dan-wolken-wacko-emails-texts-record-butch-jones/451934002/?from=new-cookie
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Docs reveal Vols’ coach search was even weirder than we thought - http://bndl.tw/KnAHFVls
https://twitter.com/joelabarker/status/977000527996342274?s=20
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Amazing
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Docs reveal Vols’ coach search was even weirder than we thought - http://bndl.tw/KnAHFVls
https://twitter.com/joelabarker/status/977000527996342274?s=20
oh my god. being able to see behind the curtain is awesome.
Even Tennessee’s just-graduated quarterback wanted to know about Gruden.
WBIR published this little back-and-forth between Josh Dobbs, then a rookie with the Steelers, and Currie. The former Vol QB was seeking Grumor details:
“Good evening Mr. Currie. Sooo are the rumors true?” Dobbs asked.
When Curried asked which rumors he was talking about, Dobbs said, “A lot of buzz around Coach Gruden. Wasn’t sure if it is legit or hearsay.”
”Geez even you?” Currie replied.
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2.5m and vindication on Weber. Great week for Currie
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go crazy folks
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ojyeg96gwsqfml0/AABTaH8am8iLi7BD_G8y91i9a?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ojyeg96gwsqfml0/AABTaH8am8iLi7BD_G8y91i9a?dl=0)
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:Wha:
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Oh my. That's some fine reading right there.
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yeah. fascinating stuff.
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Oh my. The dana dimel coaching brochure. Page 60 on the link:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ojyeg96gwsqfml0/AABTaH8am8iLi7BD_G8y91i9a?dl=0&preview=JOHN+CURRIE+PERSONAL+EMAILS.pdf (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ojyeg96gwsqfml0/AABTaH8am8iLi7BD_G8y91i9a?dl=0&preview=JOHN+CURRIE+PERSONAL+EMAILS.pdf)
Dana has a zest for life ala Golden State Warriors head coach Steve Kerr.
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Oh my. The dana dimel coaching brochure. Page 60 on the link:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ojyeg96gwsqfml0/AABTaH8am8iLi7BD_G8y91i9a?dl=0&preview=JOHN+CURRIE+PERSONAL+EMAILS.pdf (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ojyeg96gwsqfml0/AABTaH8am8iLi7BD_G8y91i9a?dl=0&preview=JOHN+CURRIE+PERSONAL+EMAILS.pdf)
Dana has a zest for life ala Golden State Warriors head coach Steve Kerr.
:love:
I like the brochure prominently features a quote from the guy sending it out.
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Dear John,Thank you for the email. I trust you are on your way back to Knoxville as I requested in my text this afternoon. Thismorning we tried for six hours to contact you about the state of the search. After finally connecting, you informedme that you were in California heading into a meeting with Mike Leach. This was the first I had heard of thismeeting. Because of the confusion from earlier in the day with the other candidate, I asked you not to pursue anydiscussions about employment with any additional candidates. I would like to meet with you in my office at 9:00a.m. tomorrow (Dec. 1) to continue this discussion.
Chancellor:Thanks for the note. I was able to get transportation home tonight and should be taking off shortly. I look forward to meeting with you tomorrow to discuss today's events as well as numerous other material events andcircumstances surrounding the search process.Thank you,John
Thank you, John. I’ll see you in the morning at 9:00.
Yes, 9am
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Does this coach lobbying coming to light hurt guys like Doeren or Leach or whoever at their respective schools?
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Does this coach lobbying coming to light hurt guys like Doeren or Leach or whoever at their respective schools?
I'm sure all of the schools know that this is just how coaching searches work. It probably hurts the way the fans see them, though.
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I wonder if JC's first phone literally exploded or caught on fire. :horrorsurprise:
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lmao at those coaching brochures
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180324/732c7fc4acac16b245c31023da94f5c4.jpg)
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Sloppy Brady Hoke texting in all caps was an unexpected treat
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john currie being a chapter in our illustrious athletic history is both kstateo and incredibly great at the same time
you really can’t make it up
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Currie was tapping out a first draft for the Greg Shiano press release from his iphone. man eff that job.
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Really shows just how much of a control freak he is
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In hindsight, every, EVERY, negative opinion we formed about him was dead on. We nailed it, guys.
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yep but had oscar delivered a win today and the subsequent bucket list experience next weekend I would say he was worth it
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He was a squirrelly SOB, but he was also a builder. I'm not sure if we'll get any more improvements on the stadium now that he's gone.
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Won’t need any for a long, long time, so win!
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Would be nice if somehow someone could get the lazy, collect money until I retire, Mustang to do some fund raising for the south end zone and east side improvements. :th_twocents:
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Warren Gillbreath is one angry individual.
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Off topic and maybe luked but has anyone ever noticed the similarities between John Currie and Lee Harvey Oswald?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/378800000065819199/c82a9c271dcab4ad2699a8adcfe7d5a5_400x400.jpeg)(https://www.biography.com/.image/ar_1:1%2Cc_fill%2Ccs_srgb%2Cg_face%2Cq_80%2Cw_300/MTE5NDg0MDU1MDkxNDQ3MzEx/lee-harvey-oswald-9430309-1-402.jpg)
:dunno:
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I thoroughly enjoyed the fan who signed Currie up to receive Sloth Facts text messages
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I thoroughly enjoyed the fan who signed Currie up to receive Sloth Facts text messages
Yeah, hero.
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LOL
https://twitter.com/DrChrisHoward/status/979381787322445824
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WTF is an Executive-in-Residence?
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Oh, and this needs to be restated.
In hindsight, every, EVERY, negative opinion we formed about him was dead on. We nailed it, guys.
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I'm reading through the entirety of the emails and text FOIAs. It's mostly nothing, and it's taking days, but it's kinda fun. Here's some stuff I've noticed so far:
1. Brady Hoke only ever texts in all caps and with no punctuation, and he always seems drunk. Not just that one or two times you've seen quoted. EVERY time.
2. Tennessee fans are the hill people we thought they were. After Currie fired Butch Jones and began the coaching search, about one out of every three messages/emails of support directed at Currie ended with some form of the person telling him "praying for u" or "we're praying on it" or w/e.
3. Currie is just as squeaky clean and not fun as we thought he was. To wit, he sent this message he sent out -- on Halloween, no less, the second most fun day of the year -- about the company Christmas party:
Outgoing 10/31/201710:24(UTC+0)From: No beer or wine at DEpt Xmas party. Unnecessary risk. Thanks.
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1/18/201722:44(UTC+0) From: Its just some ut wacko
Currie called ut fans wacko multiple times :nono:
(He's not wrong tho)
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Currently on page 89 of texts from one of Currie's phones. This is where the good stuff seems to start, like when the wackos start randomly texting him about how the impending Schiano hire sucks. They really go hard in the paint with pretending their outrage at the hire was all about the Sandusky ties. It's just tons of quotes from random numbers that say stuff like:
Don’t you dare hire a child rapist
:lol:
and
My word! Time to find a new team to follow where my kids will be safe.
:lol: :lol:
Click this link and go to pg. 89 to see the wackos. JFC I wish our fans had had this kind of fervor about anything. We might've had more than 7 people at the Fire Currie/Hire Gottleib rally.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ojyeg96gwsqfml0/AABTaH8am8iLi7BD_G8y91i9a?dl=0&preview=JOHN+CURRIE+TEXTS+(1ST+PHONE).pdf
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1/26/201719:09(UTC+0) From:+18653182392 You fuckin suck dick as a AD hire you could hire anyone besides that bum you Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) pussy ass bitch
Holy crap, I wonder where his phone number leaked? Hundreds of angry texts flooded in within a span of like 7 minutes. Bet that thing sounded like a slot machine.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
From:+18656173347 Hey John. Sorry new phone.This is Coach Schiano. I changed my mind. I’m out. Please do not contact me again.
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skinben! :love:
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+18652430980 If you hire Schiano, I will take the biggest crap of my life in your carseat.
:confused:
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Jesus Christ there are just thousands of these. Way too many to copy-paste here. Most of them are lame/not noteworthy, but there are some srs gems in there.
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From:+14237486251 Don’t be an idiot. Just check your twitter for like two seconds
Don't hold your breath, 423-748-6251. It didn't make a difference with hiring oscar Pearl here at kats u. :frown:
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From:+14233290560 This is not a home run hire Schiano is a bunt
lulz. dunno why but "Schiano is a bunt" is hilarious to me.
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Incoming 11/26/2017 19:23(UTC+0) From:+14234625859
Gutted rn
:lol:
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rom:+17314203592
Answer me you scared eff. You know you messed up.
Man, this guy got SUPER mad that Currie wasn't answering him. Apparently he didn't realize our guy John was getting literally ~100 angry texts per minute. :frown:
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:lol:
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From: +14047029142 schiaNO
That guy texted that lil quip to CurDog five different times :lol:
***edit -- now up to eleven :lol: ***
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HAHAHA this one fan texted Currie like four times in one minute:
11/26/2017 19:30(UTC+0) From:+14234625859 I would rather have bob knight
1/26/2017 19:30(UTC+0) From:+14234625859 I would rather have Dick Vitale
1/26/2017 19:30(UTC+0) From:+14234625859 Lee Corso
1/26/2017 19:30(UTC+0) From:+14234625859 Dennis Rodman
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1/26/201719:31(UTC+0) From:+13362395035 Is this Johnny tsunami?
:lol: is that what we're calling him now?
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There's what is clearly a grouptext between friends that also looped in Currie where the friends talk about rioting and "let's burn something tonight" and then later of setting fire to something "of small to medium size tonight"
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1/26/201719:32(UTC+0) From:+13362391988 How much will you pay my nephew to play for you
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11/26/201719:34(UTC+0) From:+13365968756 How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
Amen
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11/26/201719:34(UTC+0) From:+14235065489 Can we go tonight to like target and buy jerseys and burn them?
11/26/201719:35(UTC+0) From:+14235065489 Also did anyone see Kyrie make that guy fall for the pacers last night
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They're all written in black, except for this one, which was highlighted by red text :horrorsurprise:
Incoming 11/26/201719:44(UTC+0) From: +13365962703 I’m planning on bombing Auburn’s campus
I kinda have half a mind to text this guy and ask how that hilarious bomb threat text becoming public record has worked out for him.
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I think that guy was part of the rioting/burning jokey friends text chain, and then his other friend texted this:
1/26/201719:44(UTC+0) From:+13365968756 To all law enforcement agency’s: anything said in this group is a direct reflection of Jonathon Russell Jarvis, Ft Leavenworth, Kansas. He takes sole responsibility of our actions and he and he alone will be held accountable
:Wha:
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They're all written in black, except for this one, which was highlighted by red text :horrorsurprise:
Incoming 11/26/201719:44(UTC+0) From: +13365962703 I’m planning on bombing Auburn’s campus
I kinda have half a mind to text this guy and ask how that hilarious bomb threat text becoming public record has worked out for him.
It's amazing to me how unafraid white people are of the authorities.
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11/26/201719:34(UTC+0) From:+14235065489 Can we go tonight to like target and buy jerseys and burn them?
11/26/201719:35(UTC+0) From:+14235065489 Also did anyone see Kyrie make that guy fall for the pacers last night
:lol:
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11/26/201719:58(UTC+0) From:+13365963442 Were you in that hangover movie?
:confused:
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1/26/201720:00(UTC+0) From:+18653862263 I hate you
join the club
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1/26/201720:01(UTC+0) From:+16152687682
Mr. Currie, I am 12 yr old. And if you allow Schiano to be our coach my dad will not let me cheer for the Vols no more. Please don’t let that happen!
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Also kinda funny that in the middle of that crap storm of texts from idiot fans, there is a text from the university president saying she had a good conversation with Greg (presumably Schiano)
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Do you think the average fan thinks that one day an FOIA request is going to make their phone number public information and their texts to a university official spread across the interwebz?
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I bet they do now.
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I've had that dropbox thing open on my computer for a couple weeks now but every time I look at it, it looks like way to big of a pain in the ass to delve into.
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Hey Trim, 865-209-5332 has a message for you
11/26/2017 20:02(UTC+0) From:+18652095332 Eat crap
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Honestly nobody should be reading all of these unless you're like a reporter or something. It's kind of like when they did that megapixel cam at a cats game. You could spend days and days looking at every single person in BSFS to find the funny K-State0 ones, or you could just kinda spin the wheel casually and see what you get. I'd recommend the second way, but start after page 89 of the one I just linked, at least.
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:lol: amidst all of the people texting pretending they hate the hire because of Schiano's Penn State connection, there was a text that just said this:
11/26/201720:02(UTC+0) From:+14235065489 Art Briles
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Thx skinben. I have enjoyed this.
I assume he had a 2nd phone to actually get stuff done?
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11/26/201720:04(UTC+0) From:+19316197038 Schiano will cost you your job. Book it.
:bwpopcorn:
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1/26/201720:05(UTC+0) From:+19015980613 I rlly do wish u the best in the mental nursing home
:jeffy:
:clap:
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Thx skinben. I have enjoyed this.
I assume he had a 2nd phone to actually get stuff done?
Yeah. He has two phones that got FOIA'd. I haven't even delved into the other one yet. :horrorsurprise: He did quite a bit of work on this one it seems, but once the Schiano news broke he must've just turned it off because I haven't seen him text an outgoing message from it in like 10,000 consecutive texts. (Which has spanned about 30 minutes of the news breaking.)
So I guess it was shitbag Clay Travis who tweeted Currie's number, so...is there a potential lawsuit there? Because this crap is reeeeeally harsh at times and is very harassment-y. (Which I love, because eff Currie.)
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1/26/201720:05(UTC+0) From:+16159394380 Kick rocks
I like the really simple ones.
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11/26/201720:06(UTC+0) From:+17042879978 FRANK MARTIN WAS RIGHT ABOUT YOU!! LOL!
:alleyoop:
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11/26/201720:06(UTC+0) From:+14233689280 Are we sure alf isn’t AD?
(https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpeopledotcom.files.wordpress.com%2F2016%2F08%2Falf-435-1.jpg%3Fw%3D435&w=700&q=85)
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11/26/201720:08(UTC+0) From:+17316108474 Don’t be a dumbass eff boy
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11/26/201720:10(UTC+0) From:+16155335878 You and Schiano can both go hug a root.
:dunno:
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This one person just keeps texting him this about once an hour:
11/26/201720:10(UTC+0) From:+19312053462 00:00:00
Dunno. Guess it means Currie's time at Tennessee is up?
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1/26/201720:13(UTC+0) From:+18652571982 Was OJ Simpson not available?
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1/26/201720:23(UTC+0) From:+18653232702
Seriously you're a disgrace to this university and don't deserve to be here. Ur gonna hire an accessory to child rape. Disgusting u CUCK
amen
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Like the Auburn bomb threat one, this one was also highlighted in red for some reason.
1/26/201720:31(UTC+0) From:+12038858039 Liked “I got a bunch of J Crew items for $107 today”
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1/26/201720:32(UTC+0) From:+16154777622 I have a cadre of Nashville boosters who are railing very hard against this choice. You’re going to lose so much money. One would think running Frank Martin off from Kansas State would’ve been the low point for you, but apparently you’ve got more up your sleeve. Absolutely pathetic.
:D
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So I've only seen three categories that are outlined in red, for some reason:
1. They're bomb threats
2. They're women who texted Currie that they are victims of sexual abuse, and hiring Schiano would make them relive the trauma
3. They're guys who liked that their buddy saved a bunch of money at J Crew today
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1/26/201720:37(UTC+0) From:+14238178111 Currie you suck ass and your moms a hoe
:users:
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11/26/201720:10(UTC+0) From:+16155335878 You and Schiano can both go hug a root.
:dunno:
I'm guessing that means die and get buried underground.
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11/26/201720:46(UTC+0) From:+16155694445 [poop emoji]
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1/26/201721:04(UTC+0) From:+12703619531 I wish that they fired you too
Oh don't worry, they will
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Someone signed him up for Zoosk :lol:
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Holy eff go to page 329 and start skimming the next few pages. This one guy really went for it :lol:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ojyeg96gwsqfml0/AABTaH8am8iLi7BD_G8y91i9a?dl=0&preview=JOHN+CURRIE+TEXTS+(1ST+PHONE).pdf
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1/26/201721:13(UTC+0) From:+18659193404
Hey John! I think hiring Schiano is exactly the type of hire you make when committing $300 million to Neyland Stadium updates. It’s like opening a 5 star restaurant and serving totinos frozen pizzas and Milwaukee’s best. Kudos you bag of dicks.
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1/26/201721:40(UTC+0) From:+13365968756 Wanna bang?
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1/26/201721:41(UTC+0) From:+13362391988 Ever had it in your butt?
:nono:
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1/26/201721:41(UTC+0) From:+13365962703 Ever seen a dick that looks like a cheese wheel?
They started getting really sexual around page 353, but this is a family blog.
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+18653631034 Everything’s fine. See you back on campus.
:flashphotog:
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11/26/201721:56(UTC+0) From:+18657890144 FireCurrie. Make Fulmer the AD. Get a coach. In that order.
welp
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11/26/201721:56(UTC+0) From:+13362391988 Well someone gonna be feeling like a celebrity
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1/26/201721:58(UTC+0) From:+18652543135
God I love our fans. I hope they raise so much hell rape boy gets back on that plane and leaves, and they kill John Currie. If for nothing else so i don’t have to go to grad school!
wut
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1/26/201721:13(UTC+0) From:+18659193404
Hey John! I think hiring Schiano is exactly the type of hire you make when committing $300 million to Neyland Stadium updates. It’s like opening a 5 star restaurant and serving totinos frozen pizzas and Milwaukee’s best. Kudos you bag of dicks.
This guy has my attention
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From:+14072345704 Go back to Winston Salem and sit on the dick dome you asshold
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11/27/201714:23(UTC+0) From: JerryPunch
John, so sorry u are having to deal w this mess! Let me know if there is anything I can do to help you in anyway ... totally confidential of course. DocP
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It appears the thing about someone signing him up for slothfacts was true.
11/27/201716:36(UTC+0) From:+12286410036: Algae grows on the fur of sloths, which helps camouflage them.
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1/27/201716:40(UTC+0) From:+14233689280 TBH I THINK THERE’S A TEN PERCENT CHANCE THE WORLD IS FLAT
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John, this is Hayden. I'd like to discuss a job within the athletic department. Feel free to give me a call. Thank you
Yeah, Hayden, now's not really a good time.
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:lol: There's like 3 or 4 straight pages that are basically just transcripts of this big group chat featuring a bunch of friends who must've looped Currie in for fun. Mostly they're talking about how Domino's had 50% off delivery that day, and how a random Pizza Hut pizza showed up at their door, then they're debating whether or not there's an engagement ring hidden in the stuffed crust, then it hops to this:
Y'all lil steve just texted me w/ a pic of my 1st student ID from Troy .. I lost that bitch like first month of school .. it showed up on his gfs front porch tonight
God, I hope this stuff made it into depositions or something
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11/28/201716:09(UTC+0) From:+16154802530 Jay-Z nominated for a lot of Grammys what a morning
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:lol: There's like 3 or 4 straight pages that are basically just transcripts of this big group chat featuring a bunch of friends who must've looped Currie in for fun.
eff, not even Currie deserved that.
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I disagree. As his university and entire life crumbled around him, as the student body at his school was chanting "Fire Currie" at a basketball home game, one hero in that text chain did him a favor from afar by keeping him abreast of pertinent issues:
1/30/201701:32(UTC+0) From:+17702892697 Property brothers are on
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1/30/201703:49(UTC+0) From:+14072345704
The Vols signed Uncle Rico to a multiyear contract. $18,500 a year plus deluxe grand caravan and year supply of Omaha steaks!
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11/30/201705:00(UTC+0) From:+14236934525 Have you tried Bofa?
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11/30/201705:00(UTC+0) From:+14236934525 Have you tried Bofa?
What's bofa?
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BOFA DEEZ NUTZ IN UR MOUTH
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1/30/201717:44(UTC+0) From:+16154802530 i should FOIA John Curries call records
Someone text him and ask if he's our hero
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BOFA DEEZ NUTZ IN UR MOUTH
:alleyoop:
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1/30/201718:23(UTC+0) From:+14234625859
There’s an old jazz tune called I Wish I Could Shimmy Like My Sister Kate and it’s getting creepier every time I listen
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This one I just had to screenshot. Apparently someone signed him up for a service that texts you daily sexy Christmas messages.
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2/1/201714:42(UTC+0) From:+18645042583To: You fired Frank Martin you're the worst athletic director ever can you resign please
In the end, EMAW always wins. :gocho:
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Damn. Right after Currie gets fired and there are a million texts taunting him, there's this:
2/2/201720:11(UTC+0) ButchJones: Just wanted u to know I was thinking of u.
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:sdeek:
2/3/201723:08(UTC+0) From: So sorry about the news! Tenn loses a good one! Sounds like you were undermined badly by Fulmer! If I can ever be of help to you please let me know! I know you will bounce back and do well! Dirty deal!
Your friend,
Del Miller
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The very last text on 643 pages of transcripts just says this:
2/6/201713:54(UTC+0) From:+18653203126: Bahhhhh
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Ok. So. I finished reading (skimming) the gigantic record of his texts from Phone #1, which he turned off (and eventually replaced) when Clay Travis leaked his phone number and the wackos went nuts at the Schiano hire.
The log from his second phone (the replacement) is much, much shorter and presented in a much more readable format.
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ojyeg96gwsqfml0/AABTaH8am8iLi7BD_G8y91i9a?dl=0&preview=JOHN+CURRIE+TEXTS+(2ND+PHONE).pdf
Nothing too interesting until page 19, which is where he start texting with the pilot of the charter jet that he was using to fly all around the country to interview people like Gundy, Leach, etc. He's telling the pilot of the new plans but urging him to not file the flight plan reports until after they've landed or whatever. Mr. Currie I think maybe the FAA would see this as a big deal, maybe even big enough that you should get suspended for your tourney game against Syracuse. :nono:
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go to page 35 (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ojyeg96gwsqfml0/AABTaH8am8iLi7BD_G8y91i9a?dl=0&preview=JOHN+CURRIE+TEXTS+(2ND+PHONE).pdf)
Ooooh I think I got to some of the good stuff. Pretty sure this is what I'm reading right now:
Currie heads off on a cross-country flight to court Leach (a flight that doesn't have wifi) without telling his boss Beverly Davenport, she frantically tries to get in touch with him (through Reid Sigmon) to figure out wtf is going on, he doesn't answer for 6 hours, and Davenport gets pissed at Currie for going rogue without her permission. She got no updates because he couldn't text/email her from the air.
When she finally figures out what happened, she gets in touch with him while he's in L.A. and tells him to fly back immediately, where she promptly fires his ass. (Figuratively)
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Okay so it turned out to not be all that juicy in the following pages, because lots was redacted or just didn't show up for whatever reason.
But after the news broke that Currie had been fired, there were a lot of heartfelt, sympathetic messages that people from the department texted him. And then, always drunk and loud Brady Hoke texted him this:
JOHN VERY SORRY TO HEAR WHAT HAS HAPPENED THIS IS THE BULL CRAP THAT COLLEGE FOOTBALL HAS BECOME IF I CAN BE OF ANY HELP PLEASE LET ME KNOW
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After Currie announced they wouldn't be hiring Schiano after all, and he released a statement thanking fans for their patience:
From:Linda Bishop
To:jcurrie
Subject:Your statement
Date:Monday, November 27, 2017 12:15:55 PM
Whose patience? Nobody is patient! Quit shopping at Big Lots for a coach and go to Nordstrom! We deserve a greatcoach not a third or fourth tier leftover. You had better make a great hire and do it yesterday or your career is over! Cutliff is a great person but not enough!
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I enjoyed the exchange of Currie arranging beverages for Mike Gundy at a Dallas hotel.
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remind me, who did tennessee actually get as a coach?
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remind me, who did tennessee actually get as a coach?
Bama defensive coordinator
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remind me, who did tennessee actually get as a coach?
Not Schiano
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remind me, who did tennessee actually get as a coach?
Bama defensive coordinator
Pretty dece hire, lol currie
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The most alarming thing about reading these emails/texts is discovering just how incredibly delusional their fans are. Their massively inflated sense of self-worth is truly a sight to behold. It may very well be worse than Nebraska's. Here's an email to Reid Sigmon (Currie's right hand man at UT, and also a guy who worked in the athletic department at K-State for a number of years). They redacted the guy's name and email address for some reason, no idea why -- but this email is just crammed full of doozies. You could start a Gems of This Guy's Email Thread. The subject line of the email is dumpster fire.
Mr. Sigmon,
I am probably not what you would consider a major contributor to the school. However, for several years I've purchased season tickets (you can look me up - I believe my customer number is [REDACTED]. My wife and I had a daughter two years ago and it became too difficult to attend games and the amount we were donating to the school, while probably not significant in the grand scheme of things on your end, was very significant to our budget, so we decided not to renew our tickets for the 2017 season.
I live in [REDACTED], and even though I didn't go to UT, people who know me describe me as the biggest UT fan they know. I bleed orange and white. My wife and I have very serious negotiations about what color we dress my daughter in on Saturdays in the fall (my wife is an AL fan).
I have been closely following the search for a new coach and I have to say I have never been so disappointed. I don't think Mr. Currie could do a worse job if he was actively trying to sabotage our football program. The term dumpster fire has been used many times in the last few days to describe the handling of the situation and now I have adopted that term as I discuss the situation with others. The fact that Mr. Currie took a trip to the Bahamas in the midst of this situations makes my orange and white blood boil.
I am writing to ask that the university dismiss Mike Currie and appoint either Philip Fulmer or David Blackburn as AD.
I also hope that the University rescind the offer to NC State's Doeren so that new leadership can take over the search.
I understand UT hasn't even reached out to Mr. Gruden about coaching for us. Please at least have the conversation.
If that doesn't work out, please stop pursuing 2nd and 3rd tier candidates.
I hope that the university will seriously consider hiring Les Miles. I understand that this may help LSU because it will reduce the buyout they are currently paying as a part of his contract. My advice would be that we get over that as quickly as possible.
I also hope that the university will pursue Tee Martin as offensive coordinator under the assumption that he could take over as HC if things don't work out with Les.
I can't believe I am saying this but I would rather see Lane Kiffen as our Head Coach rather than the
second and third tier candidates we are pursuing.
I always thought that as my daughter grows up and becomes old enough to attend games I would renew my season tickets (except this time I would purchase 3 instead of just 2). The thought of holding her tiny hand as we walk into Neyland Stadium that first time warms my heart. But with no end in sight for this disgrace I just don't see that happening. If we don't get our act together, I have decided to stop following Tennessee football because the disappointment just hurts too much.
This is painful to watch. I am asking that you do whatever you can to encourage the dismissal of Mr. Currie so that we can restore pride to our football program. You know more than most that a strong football program generates funds to help all student athletes, not just those participating in football. This is why these decisions are so important.
Sincerely,
[REDACTED]
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v disappointed he didn't add a 'praying for you' at the end
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From: Wallace, Chad (GE Power)
Subject: FIRE JOHN CURRIE
Get in touch with a real coach and stop the madness. Gruden or Les Miles
That's all his email said.
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This is what John Currie is bringing to be the face of UT football. I have lived and died Tennessee since I listened to George Mooney when we beat No. 1 LSU in 1959. I have 2 degrees from UT (74 & 77). I have always been proud to be a Tennessee Vol. Even in our worst years, including yesterday's epic loss to Vanderbilt, I have never been ashamed of University until now. It breaks my heart to say it but the leadership of our University is abysmal. How can we make an enabler of child sex abuse the head of our once storied program. Our football program was on life support yesterday, John Currie just pulled the plug today. John Currie will be deservedly remembered as the Dr. Kevorkian of UT Football.
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v disappointed he didn't add a 'praying for you' at the end
Would've been too perfect. Oh I forgot to mention, a lot of these texts/emails also end with "Make UT Great Again!"
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Mike Currie :lol:
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Dlew, when you're busy bleeding orange/white, and tearing up at the thought of walking your daughter by her little hand into Neyland Stadium one day, you don't have time to remember such pithy things as the first name of a guy you’re writing hate mail about.
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The most alarming thing about reading these emails/texts is discovering just how incredibly delusional their fans are. Their massively inflated sense of self-worth is truly a sight to behold. It may very well be worse than Nebraska's. Here's an email to Reid Sigmon (Currie's right hand man at UT, and also a guy who worked in the athletic department at K-State for a number of years). They redacted the guy's name and email address for some reason, no idea why -- but this email is just crammed full of doozies. You could start a Gems of This Guy's Email Thread. The subject line of the email is dumpster fire.
Mr. Sigmon,
I am probably not what you would consider a major contributor to the school. However, for several years I've purchased season tickets (you can look me up - I believe my customer number is [REDACTED]. My wife and I had a daughter two years ago and it became too difficult to attend games and the amount we were donating to the school, while probably not significant in the grand scheme of things on your end, was very significant to our budget, so we decided not to renew our tickets for the 2017 season.
I live in [REDACTED], and even though I didn't go to UT, people who know me describe me as the biggest UT fan they know. I bleed orange and white. My wife and I have very serious negotiations about what color we dress my daughter in on Saturdays in the fall (my wife is an AL fan).
I have been closely following the search for a new coach and I have to say I have never been so disappointed. I don't think Mr. Currie could do a worse job if he was actively trying to sabotage our football program. The term dumpster fire has been used many times in the last few days to describe the handling of the situation and now I have adopted that term as I discuss the situation with others. The fact that Mr. Currie took a trip to the Bahamas in the midst of this situations makes my orange and white blood boil.
I am writing to ask that the university dismiss Mike Currie and appoint either Philip Fulmer or David Blackburn as AD.
I also hope that the University rescind the offer to NC State's Doeren so that new leadership can take over the search.
I understand UT hasn't even reached out to Mr. Gruden about coaching for us. Please at least have the conversation.
If that doesn't work out, please stop pursuing 2nd and 3rd tier candidates.
I hope that the university will seriously consider hiring Les Miles. I understand that this may help LSU because it will reduce the buyout they are currently paying as a part of his contract. My advice would be that we get over that as quickly as possible.
I also hope that the university will pursue Tee Martin as offensive coordinator under the assumption that he could take over as HC if things don't work out with Les.
I can't believe I am saying this but I would rather see Lane Kiffen as our Head Coach rather than the
second and third tier candidates we are pursuing.
I always thought that as my daughter grows up and becomes old enough to attend games I would renew my season tickets (except this time I would purchase 3 instead of just 2). The thought of holding her tiny hand as we walk into Neyland Stadium that first time warms my heart. But with no end in sight for this disgrace I just don't see that happening. If we don't get our act together, I have decided to stop following Tennessee football because the disappointment just hurts too much.
This is painful to watch. I am asking that you do whatever you can to encourage the dismissal of Mr. Currie so that we can restore pride to our football program. You know more than most that a strong football program generates funds to help all student athletes, not just those participating in football. This is why these decisions are so important.
Sincerely,
[REDACTED]
See, what's funny to me is this guy more than likely believed A. his two season tickets mattered in a 100K person stadium and B. thought this email would somehow sway the future of UT football and the university as a whole.
And what is even more entertaining is I bet you his wife (the Alabama fan) probably never went to AL just like he never went to UT.
Lastly, can you consider purchasing season tickets as a donation? Is that tax deductible? If so then I really need to hop on the season ticket bandwagon just for tax purposes.
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I've written similarly futile (though cathartic) letters in the past.
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Season tickets themselves aren’t tax deductible but the required donation (which for KSU is about twice as much) is. At least was in 2017. I know it was a point of contention with the new tax bill but am not sure how that worked out.
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I saw Mike Currie and had to think to myself if that was his name or not
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The most alarming thing about reading these emails/texts is discovering just how incredibly delusional their fans are. Their massively inflated sense of self-worth is truly a sight to behold. It may very well be worse than Nebraska's. Here's an email to Reid Sigmon (Currie's right hand man at UT, and also a guy who worked in the athletic department at K-State for a number of years). They redacted the guy's name and email address for some reason, no idea why -- but this email is just crammed full of doozies. You could start a Gems of This Guy's Email Thread. The subject line of the email is dumpster fire.
Mr. Sigmon,
I am probably not what you would consider a major contributor to the school. However, for several years I've purchased season tickets (you can look me up - I believe my customer number is [REDACTED]. My wife and I had a daughter two years ago and it became too difficult to attend games and the amount we were donating to the school, while probably not significant in the grand scheme of things on your end, was very significant to our budget, so we decided not to renew our tickets for the 2017 season.
I live in [REDACTED], and even though I didn't go to UT, people who know me describe me as the biggest UT fan they know. I bleed orange and white. My wife and I have very serious negotiations about what color we dress my daughter in on Saturdays in the fall (my wife is an AL fan).
I have been closely following the search for a new coach and I have to say I have never been so disappointed. I don't think Mr. Currie could do a worse job if he was actively trying to sabotage our football program. The term dumpster fire has been used many times in the last few days to describe the handling of the situation and now I have adopted that term as I discuss the situation with others. The fact that Mr. Currie took a trip to the Bahamas in the midst of this situations makes my orange and white blood boil.
I am writing to ask that the university dismiss Mike Currie and appoint either Philip Fulmer or David Blackburn as AD.
I also hope that the University rescind the offer to NC State's Doeren so that new leadership can take over the search.
I understand UT hasn't even reached out to Mr. Gruden about coaching for us. Please at least have the conversation.
If that doesn't work out, please stop pursuing 2nd and 3rd tier candidates.
I hope that the university will seriously consider hiring Les Miles. I understand that this may help LSU because it will reduce the buyout they are currently paying as a part of his contract. My advice would be that we get over that as quickly as possible.
I also hope that the university will pursue Tee Martin as offensive coordinator under the assumption that he could take over as HC if things don't work out with Les.
I can't believe I am saying this but I would rather see Lane Kiffen as our Head Coach rather than the
second and third tier candidates we are pursuing.
I always thought that as my daughter grows up and becomes old enough to attend games I would renew my season tickets (except this time I would purchase 3 instead of just 2). The thought of holding her tiny hand as we walk into Neyland Stadium that first time warms my heart. But with no end in sight for this disgrace I just don't see that happening. If we don't get our act together, I have decided to stop following Tennessee football because the disappointment just hurts too much.
This is painful to watch. I am asking that you do whatever you can to encourage the dismissal of Mr. Currie so that we can restore pride to our football program. You know more than most that a strong football program generates funds to help all student athletes, not just those participating in football. This is why these decisions are so important.
Sincerely,
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See, what's funny to me is this guy more than likely believed A. his two season tickets mattered in a 100K person stadium and B. thought this email would somehow sway the future of UT football and the university as a whole.
And what is even more entertaining is I bet you his wife (the Alabama fan) probably never went to AL just like he never went to UT.
Lastly, can you consider purchasing season tickets as a donation? Is that tax deductible? If so then I really need to hop on the season ticket bandwagon just for tax purposes.
You can't argue with the result, though.
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I've written similarly futile (though cathartic) letters in the past.
One time in my Canadian friend's younger years, he wrote an angry letter to the Manhattan Chipotle telling them they weren't filling their burritos big enough. :facepalm:
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He should have just made a video where Phil Fulmer shoots John Currie Old Yeller style.
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I've written similarly futile (though cathartic) letters in the past.
One time in my Canadian friend's younger years, he wrote an angry letter to the Manhattan Chipotle telling them they weren't filling their burritos big enough. :facepalm:
That's a worthwhile cause. Not gE'ing.
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I've written similarly futile (though cathartic) letters in the past.
One time in my Canadian friend's younger years, he wrote an angry letter to the Manhattan Chipotle telling them they weren't filling their burritos big enough. :facepalm:
That's a worthwhile cause. Not gE'ing.
Why not just ask them to put more in the burrito? I've never had a problem getting them to put more in when I ask nicely.
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That’s now. This was Chipotle in its infancy, at least in Manhattan. Times were very different back then, my friend.
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That’s now. This was Chipotle in its infancy, at least in Manhattan. Times were very different back then, my friend.
Chipotle brought free burrito samples to my place of residence when they first opened when I was an undergrad at K-State. Times were not different then, my friend.
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i bet our guy kat kid never understuffed ‘reets when he was a part of the ‘potle empire
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Since most people are no longer oscar haters does that mean we no longer believe Currie destroyed the basketball program? Seems like you can't have it both ways.
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I very much think Currie still destroyed the basketball program. He ran off the winningest coach in my lifetime and placed us in basketball purgatory for six years (maybe more). And even if you don’t think he destroyed it, I think 95% of people would agree that Currie made our basketball program significantly less fun. eff Currie. I enjoyed every second of schaudenfreude I got from watching him crash and burn for bungling the UT hire.
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oscar has won more games at k state during your lifetime than frank did
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oscar has won more games at k state during your lifetime than frank did
Lol @ 6 years
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That’s now. This was Chipotle in its infancy, at least in Manhattan. Times were very different back then, my friend.
Every person has a right to complain about perceived injustices, but if a Chipotle burrito does not fill you up sans extra toppings you may to see a specialist. Because that's a pretty serious burrito.
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Season tickets themselves aren’t tax deductible but the required donation (which for KSU is about twice as much) is. At least was in 2017. I know it was a point of contention with the new tax bill but am not sure how that worked out.
There was a small blurb on my 2017 KSU contribution summary thing they send out for tax purposes that said no more deductions for contributions that go towards athletics rewards in 2018. Which really sucks because I don't care about the points or whatever you accumulate for the Ahearn Fund donations since I live out of state and don't go to games anyway.
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oscar has won more games at k state during your lifetime than frank did
That’s now. This was K-State basketball in its infancy, at least in Manhattan. Times were very different back then, my friend.
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Since most people are no longer oscar haters does that mean we no longer believe Currie destroyed the basketball program? Seems like you can't have it both ways.
I think a lot of people on this board would still prefer Frank to oscar.
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Since most people are no longer oscar haters does that mean we no longer believe Currie destroyed the basketball program? Seems like you can't have it both ways.
I think a lot of people on this board would still prefer Frank to oscar.
I would have to say nearly everyone. Right? I mean, this is the rebel bbs, after all.
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1/26/201720:05(UTC+0) From:+16159394380 Kick rocks
I like the really simple ones.
1/26/2017 21:21(UTC+0) From: +16153100608 Your trash
My favorite simple one, explains Vols fans perfectly. The guy sent this almost 250 times.
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1/26/2017 02:21(UTC+0) From:+17853203574 We appreciate your support of KState Athletics and your Capstone John!
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1/26/2017 02:21(UTC+0) From:+17853203574 We appreciate your support of KState Athletics and your Capstone John!
Bob?
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Since most people are no longer oscar haters does that mean we no longer believe Currie destroyed the basketball program? Seems like you can't have it both ways.
I think a lot of people on this board would still prefer Frank to oscar.
I would have to say nearly everyone. Right? I mean, this is the rebel bbs, after all.
Umm, no.
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Since most people are no longer oscar haters does that mean we no longer believe Currie destroyed the basketball program? Seems like you can't have it both ways.
I think a lot of people on this board would still prefer Frank to oscar.
I would have to say nearly everyone. Right? I mean, this is the rebel bbs, after all.
Umm, no.
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No one wants frank back, except maybe #life.
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brando you can chime in whenever you have more than 10,000 posts :don'tcare:
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brando you can chime in whenever you have more than 10,000 posts :don'tcare:
so does that mean i cant chime in because I dont have 1000 posts SOUNDS LIKE UNFAIR TO ME!!!!!!! its a free
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COUNTRY!!!!!!!!
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BB were you the source of any of those Currie texts?
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no b/c my grandma won’t get me a cellphone even though IM IN 8TH GRADE EVERYONE ELSE HAS ONE BUT I GUESS i should be greatful for my laptop did you know you can see BOOBS ON THIS THING???? what a country
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This bushblister guy's got moxie
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No doubt as John Currie counts that $2.5 million dollars from Tenn and from Fat Phil.
He’s flashing a mental double bird back at them. Particularly knowing they ended hiring the same guy he was going to hire in the first place.
(While also having both Mike Grundy and Mike Leach on the line seconds after the Schiano thing started to fall through)
Tenn deserves the pending ongoing mediocrity just as much if not more than Texas A&M.
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A&M deserves it more. Those guys can get mumped.
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Bruces elite eight and our facilities upgrades will get currie another gig.
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Probably. What level of gig do we think he'll get? Like a P5 job? Or like a Colorado State?
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He’d be a natural fit for compliance at the NCAA
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Probably. What level of gig do we think he'll get? Like a P5 job? Or like a Colorado State?
KU needs him. Would be a home run hire.
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He’d be a natural fit for compliance at the NCAA
Perfect.
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He’d be a natural fit for compliance at the NCAA
I really don't even think he would be all that good at that.
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He’d be a natural fit for compliance at the NCAA
I really don't even think he would be all that good at that.
If you guys ever watched mad men...I feel like JC is Pete Campbell in so many ways it's kind of incredible really when you stop to think about it
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https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/983426825039757312
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Should definitely go in the wiki.
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Currie leaves and UT goes out of control. Sad.
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Well, UT fired their chancellor today. Apparently, she could not overcome the Currie hire.
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Well, UT fired their chancellor today. Apparently, she could not overcome the Currie hire.
Wrong: it was because of poor communications skills. Better get her a sweet landing spot at the communications department.
(the speculation is that she was canned because she went against Gov Haslam's plan to outsource/privatize maintenance and janitorial jobs at UT.)
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Well, UT fired their chancellor today. Apparently, she could not overcome the Currie hire.
Wrong: it was because of poor communications skills. Better get her a sweet landing spot at the communications department.
(the speculation is that she was canned because she went against Gov Haslam's plan to outsource/privatize maintenance and janitorial jobs at UT.)
The article I read said Currie, non-privatizing of jobs, and going to an LGBTQ event. Basically, Currie and not being Republican enough.
I can't believe how shitty the letter is that was released to the public though, particularly when you're supposedly keeping her on staff.
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Somewhere, John Currie is smiling
https://twitter.com/Tennessean/status/1351220820748677138?s=19
https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1351222964616835072?s=19
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Serves Tennessee, fans & admin, right for that last crap show of a search. Phil Fulmer has always been a dickbag.
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So Pruitt has the same lawyer Beatty had and sounds like Tenn will be trying to get out of any money owed in the contract like KU did, should be fun to follow.
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"Tennessee put cash in McDonald's bags to hand out to recruits on visits."
LOL. Very jelly
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Don't eat all your McDonald's in one place, y'hear?
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"Tennessee put cash in McDonald's bags to hand out to recruits on visits."
LOL. Very jelly
Why? They did that crap and are still and have been horrible, by any standard. I'd be furious if we were cheating and that's the end result.
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Only the stupidest kind of stupid cheats in that fashion.
Clearly they don't have a network of (non McDonald's) bag men like most of the SEC schools that are any good do.
The smart schools have a standard of deniability that is awe inspiring. Payments to recruits are never handled by anyone on the coaching staff, few on the coaching staff even know the full details.
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"Tennessee put cash in McDonald's bags to hand out to recruits on visits."
LOL. Very jelly
Why? They did that crap and are still and have been horrible, by any standard. I'd be furious if we were cheating and that's the end result.
Because they're trying? I like effort. And it's resulted in Top 10-20 classes every year, add a couple pieces and the right coach can win big right away.
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"Tennessee put cash in McDonald's bags to hand out to recruits on visits."
LOL. Very jelly
Why? They did that crap and are still and have been horrible, by any standard. I'd be furious if we were cheating and that's the end result.
Because they're trying? I like effort. And it's resulted in Top 10-20 classes every year, add a couple pieces and the right coach can win big right away.
They're going to go on probation tho.
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"Tennessee put cash in McDonald's bags to hand out to recruits on visits."
LOL. Very jelly
Why? They did that crap and are still and have been horrible, by any standard. I'd be furious if we were cheating and that's the end result.
Because they're trying? I like effort. And it's resulted in Top 10-20 classes every year, add a couple pieces and the right coach can win big right away.
They're going to go on probation tho.
Yeah, most likely.
Do we have a thread about violations? Seems like the SEC would be at the top, but also aren't we weirdly high up on the penalized list?
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https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3270084/tennessees-entire-roster-is-entering-the-transfer-portal-faster-than-i-can-type
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https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3270084/tennessees-entire-roster-is-entering-the-transfer-portal-faster-than-i-can-type
Should be try and purchase...er... I mean recruit and use any of those guys?
Also, straight from that article,
I long for the day when Tennessee will simply not be the laughingstock of college football. Unfortunately, that day is not today.
Vols fans, trust us from watching little brother to the east of us. It could get much much worse.
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https://theathletic.com/2881454/2021/10/11/inside-tennessees-2017-search-that-turned-the-coaching-carousel/
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oh hell yeah copy and paste that crap
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I got no sub. Just had to post the pic. Who got a sub?
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Every single one of the people that Currie pursued was superior to what Fat Phil ultimately brought in and what ultimately got Fat Phil and the whole gang fired and Tennessee football likely put on probation.
None of what the Pruitt and staff were doing has a single ounce of air cover from NIL. 1000% blatant NCAA violations and possible LOIC findings.
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I didn't realize Clay Travis spearheaded a lot of the outcry and posted JCurries phone number on social media.
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oh hell yeah copy and paste that crap
Editor’s note: This story is part of the Secrets of the Coaching Carousel series exploring unique aspects of college football coaching changes and more.
KNOXVILLE, Tenn. — They didn’t carry pitchforks as they descended upon the Tennessee football facility, but they came bearing megaphones, signs and paint. The fans who could make it on this particular Sunday afternoon made their indignation known. Others used keystrokes to lob grenades, using their social media feeds to amplify anger and convince more fans to join the fray.
By nightfall, rabid fans, politicians and influential donors had changed the course of the program they all loved.
Tennessee had to change its plans. In an unprecedented move, it tore up a signed deal with its brand new coach and started over. Then, the university president fired the man in charge of the coaching search and handed the reins to a beloved former coach who had been pushed out less than 10 years earlier.
Frustrated fans viewed it as taking back control of their program after a decade of poor decisions compounded upon one another to bury a once-proud program into an ever-deepening hole. Others saw it as mob rule overtaking college athletics with dangerous implications moving forward in more than just sports.
Coaching searches are all crazy in their own ways, but Tennessee’s 2017 search set the standard for madness, and 8,000 pages of documents and internal communications released months later offered unique insight into the frenzied, disorganized process that ended with more turnover on Rocky Top and opened the eyes of coaches and administrators across college sports.
The Athletic spoke to key figures involved and reviewed documents to offer a new look into the wildest coaching search in modern college football history. “Every moment that went by, the hysteria got worse,” one source said.
Here is how it unfolded:
Sunday, Nov. 12: Butch Jones is fired
The Vols entered 2016 favored to win the East Division and play for an SEC title for the first time since 2007. And after beating Georgia and Florida in the same season for the first time since 2004, reaching Atlanta seemed like a layup. Instead, they coughed up the East with a loss to South Carolina and finished the regular season with a loss to Vanderbilt that cost them a trip to the Sugar Bowl.
Butch Jones, however, argued his team already had done something more important that season. “They’ve won the biggest championship — and that’s the championship of life,” Jones said.
Months later, he angered fans again on national signing day as he introduced the last class he would sign at Tennessee.
“The only five-star that we even concern ourselves with is a five-star heart,” Jones said, another eye-roll-inducing moment for a fan base frustrated with Jones’ off-field approach and mic-check moments.
The coach had signed plenty of actual five stars. His 2014 class ranked No. 7 nationally, and his 2015 class was No. 4. But commensurate on-field results were nowhere to be found, and combined with ugly midseason exits from NFL-bound players like Jalen Hurd and Preston Williams, that fed a belief Jones was failing to get the most out of that talent.
The bitter taste of a painful offseason only worsened in 2017, as the losses piled up in what became the worst season in program history. Winless in SEC play, Jones was fired 10 games in by first-year athletic director John Currie, who named defensive line coach and former Michigan head coach Brady Hoke to the interim job. Jones finished 34-17 (14-24 in the SEC) through five seasons at Tennessee.
“We need to hire someone that understands the magnitude of being the football coach at the University of Tennessee,” said Currie, adding that he was looking for a coach “with the highest integrity and character, with the skills and vision to propel Tennessee to championships.”
Stakeholders involved in the search almost immediately authorized Currie to offer the next Tennessee coach up to $10 million per year, sources told The Athletic. That number leaked quickly to agents, including CAA superagent Jimmy Sexton. Peyton Manning was among those offering counsel to Currie and spoke with multiple head coaching candidates on the phone during the eventual hiring process. “I don’t think you’d ever get down the road with someone if (Manning) were totally against it,” a source said.
And Currie opted not to use a search firm, a choice that would have massive ramifications later on.
Saturday, Nov. 18: Jon Gruden rumors, or “Grumors,” emerge
For almost a decade and through multiple coaching searches, Gruden had been the White Whale to Tennessee fans’ Captain Ahab. For many, it became a full-blown obsession.
Every Monday night, they could turn on their TV and see Gruden, known lover of the state of Tennessee, manning the “Monday Night Football” booth. The frequent chatter earned its own name: Grumors.
How real were any of Tennessee’s dalliances with Gruden through the years? That answer depends on who’s asked, but when a household name and Super Bowl champion is the starting point for many fans, anyone other than Nick Saban or Dabo Swinney is a step down in their minds.
“Tennessee fans believe in Santa Claus,” as one source put it.
Except now Santa, in the middle of a Tennessee coaching search, had been spotted in Knoxville.
Calhoun’s, a local barbecue chain that hosts the weekly Tennessee coaches show and frequently caters the university’s football events, tweeted from its popular account that Gruden had been spotted eating dinner with Manning in their riverside location in the shadow of Neyland Stadium.
It was just a Grumor. The restaurant later apologized, but the apology never goes as viral as the offense. The damage was done, and to Currie, mum was now the word as the search began in full swing.
Wednesday, Nov. 22: The shadow searches are underway
Currie texted Tennessee chancellor Beverly Davenport, as he often would during the search, to keep her abreast of the latest developments: “FYI — there is a media report that we have offered Chip Kelly — it is a complete fabrication planted by his agent (Trace Armstrong) to incite competition with other schools (and) drive up his price and perceived desirability.”
A few things had been happening behind the scenes. Currie had met in-person with Kelly in early November, but Currie did not offer him the job. He also visited with then-Central Florida coach Scott Frost and spoke with North Carolina State coach Dave Doeren. Former NFL head coach Jeff Fisher called Currie and pitched himself for the job, as did Hoke, the interim head coach. Currie did not talk directly to Purdue coach Jeff Brohm, though others on the search committee reached out to Brohm and pushed for him to become a candidate.
Hoke’s all-caps text incantations from those days remain the stuff of legend.
“JOHN I HOPE YOU DO KNOW I WOULD LIKE TO BE YOUR HEAD FOOTBALL COACH I DO KNOW THE ENVIRONMENT WE LIVE IN AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AT TENNESSEE!” Hoke wrote to Currie.
Meanwhile, others in Currie’s periphery, including influential donor Charlie Anderson, were doing their own outreach as sort of a “shadow” search, two sources told The Athletic. Baltimore Ravens head coach John Harbaugh and his agent were approached during the shadow search.
And former Vols head coach Philip Fulmer was exerting his influence behind the scenes, attempting to “advise” Davenport and ultimately wrestle control away from Currie — who served as Tennessee’s executive assistant athletic director when Fulmer was fired in November 2008. Fulmer, too, was making calls to candidates before Currie did.
“There was, in my opinion, a group working to discredit John Currie,” a source said.
That source said at least one head coach who was interviewed for the Tennessee job said he wouldn’t take it because of Fulmer’s meddling and the feeling that, with Fulmer pulling strings, the new coach wouldn’t get a fair chance to succeed.
Saturday, Nov. 25: Dan Mullen takes the Florida job
Currie had spoken to then-Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen throughout the week and had been in close contact with one of Mullen’s representatives, Clint Dowdle. Mullen wrote in a text message to both that he’d spoken to Manning on Friday and was looking forward to meeting with Currie on Sunday.
That was the plan … until Currie was informed that Mullen would be taking the Florida job. He was driving when he found out, so he shifted gears and then directed his car toward Columbus, Ohio, to meet with Ohio State defensive coordinator Greg Schiano.
That night, Currie also sent Oklahoma State head coach Mike Gundy a text, asking if he had a minute to chat.
Early Sunday, Nov. 26: Tennessee, Greg Schiano sign a memorandum of understanding
By midnight, Currie had his man in Schiano and was working with Schiano’s agent to nail down the details. At 12:32 a.m., he sent a text message to Davenport: “Have a tentative deal in place awaiting word from you/Prez. Will be up early. Call whenever. Thank you.”
Currie texted Davenport a few times in the morning, asking if she had yet spoken to university president Joe DiPietro about Schiano. She responded that DiPietro originally said he could talk to her at 10 a.m. She tried to call him and he didn’t answer.
Currie asked: “Any update?”
Davenport replied: “Joe has gone to Mass and will be back in an hour.”
Currie wrote back: “Good. Schiano is a devout Catholic.”
At 10:39 a.m., Davenport asked Currie to send “a number.” That day, the two sides signed a memorandum of understanding, two people with direct knowledge of the situation confirmed to The Athletic. Tennessee hoped to announce Schiano as its new head coach that evening. Schiano then walked into a team meeting in Columbus, as the Buckeyes prepared to face Wisconsin in the Big Ten championship game the next weekend.
Then, everything imploded.
(Matthew Emmons / USA Today)
Later Sunday, Nov. 26: ‘It felt like a death blow’
“I got a text from someone in the know and she told me she knew it was Schiano. So I had told my friends and they were all freaking out,” said Jon Reed, a local radio host at Fox Sports Knoxville who also operates a podcast and an online community that’s garnered attention on campus in recent years. “So when it came out on Sunday around 1 or 2 o’clock, it was just kind of a numb feeling. As someone who is both a Tennessee fan and someone who works in the market, it felt like a death blow.”
It wasn’t just about Schiano. Paired with six losing seasons in the previous decade capped by the first winless SEC campaign in program history, handing over the program to a coach with a middling career record — due to a total rebuild at Rutgers — for many felt like a step in the wrong direction.
“Time after time, it seems they have thought they can find somebody who they hope can be a success, instead of somebody who’s guaranteed to be a success,” Clay Travis, a lifelong Tennessee fan who now operates the website Outkick.com, said in a recent interview with The Athletic. “What Tennessee fans are just fed up with is that the program deserves better than the choices that have been given to the program.”
Lane Kiffin inherited a program on mostly solid ground after Fulmer was pushed out in late 2008, but Kiffin left for USC after one season. Kiffin’s dream job opening a year after he arrived in the SEC was bad luck, but then-Tennessee athletic director Mike Hamilton elected to hire Kiffin over TCU coach Gary Patterson.
Rather than lean on an interim coach after Kiffin’s mid-January exit, the Vols rushed to hire Derek Dooley, the son of legendary Georgia head coach Vince Dooley. Derek Dooley, whose career record was 17-20, finished his career on Rocky Top with zero winning seasons and one recruiting class that signed zero offensive linemen. He ceded to Jones, and the 2017 disaster made it clear change was needed.
But many fans felt it was the wrong change.
“When you run a hire out that has zero connection to the area (or) the fans, and just seems like it was a hand-picked person from (Cleveland Browns owner and Tennessee super booster) Jimmy Haslam, who was almost going to hire (Schiano) at the Browns, it just seemed like enough was enough,” Reed said.
Frustrated and helpless but wanting to do something, a couple of friends texted Reed and said they were headed to Neyland Stadium to dump their Tennessee gear outside the stadium. A symbolic gesture, sure, but one they hoped was cathartic and could ease the sting of the Schiano hire they deemed unworthy.
Reed’s friends asked if he could tweet out their plans to gather at the stadium’s plaza outside Gate 21 to see if others wanted to join. He did, and other angry fans joined in. Many more than expected. Suddenly, Reed found himself as an unwitting ringleader.
“They were looking to me to have plans. I was like, ‘I didn’t plan this. You guys asked me to come,’” Reed said.
The group marched the half-mile to the team facility yelling and chanting. Someone brought a bullhorn, and people took turns giving angry speeches. When it was Reed’s turn, he told the crowd that people were going to judge Tennessee fans for their actions that day and their actions would be viewed by many as railroading a good man in Schiano, even if their intentions were to bring in a candidate that more closely reflected what they wanted in their program.
“It was more about Tennessee fans letting their voices be heard by the administration,” said Reed, who channeled his love of pro wrestling and ripped up a Tennessee shirt at the end of his speech. “If the worst thing that came from it was that the president and the chancellor and the AD and the boosters were embarrassed by it, I thought that was going to be good enough.”
It did far more.
A campaign on a much larger scale was taking place online. Angry Tennessee fans were flooding social media with their frustration, and that included Travis.
“Social media is beyond brutal,” Davenport texted Currie that afternoon.
“Working on it,” he replied.
Travis said the Schiano hire “was gonna be a non-starter for a lot of people.”
“This was an Ohio State defensive coordinator who got torched a lot. He’s a retread,” Travis said. “Unlikable guy, according to many different people who have been affiliated with him in either the NFL or college. Not the kind of guy who has any experience in the South at all, or understands in any significant way what it means to be the most famous person in the state of Tennessee, because that’s what the Tennessee football head coach is.”
Later that Sunday, Travis also tweeted out Currie’s personal cellphone number, prompting angry fans to flood Currie’s phone with calls and texts.
“I think when you make a decision like that, the public should have an ability to respond to you,” Travis said. “There are certain jobs that are part of a public trust in my mind, and one of them would be head coach at Tennessee. One of them would be an athletic director at Tennessee.”
Travis says he doesn’t regret what he did then but wouldn’t do it again. “I’m in a different spot now,” he said. “Four years later, I feel like it might be punching down for me to go after an athletic director in a way that maybe wasn’t then.”
Travis’ first tweet regarding Schiano and many subsequent tweets and posts on his website also attempted to link Schiano directly to the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse scandal at Penn State.
Former Nittany Lions assistant Mike McQueary had testified in an insurance lawsuit that another assistant, Tom Bradley, told him Schiano reported seeing Sandusky “doing something to a boy in the shower” in the early 1990s, according to court documents that were unsealed in July 2016.
Schiano denied the claims. Bradley also denied the event in McQueary’s testimony. It was hearsay; Ohio State had vetted Schiano, as had the Tampa Bay Buccaneers before it, and as did Tennessee after, sources said.
But for fans already upset that their athletic director had missed on Mullen and other big-name hires, mentioning the worst scandal in college sports history was more than enough. In addition to Schiano’s perceived poor on-field fit, it further fueled Tennessee fans’ anger,
“To see stuff written, No. 1 that is totally untrue, and No. 2 is really nasty, that’s not nice for anybody (to see), especially my family,” Schiano told The Athletic last year after being hired as the Rutgers head coach for a second time. “Looking back, I think God has a way of getting you where He wants you. Sometimes it may be a little painful, but I don’t doubt for a second that (Rutgers) is where I’m supposed to be.”
Politicians from Gov. Bill Lee to state representatives Eddie Smith and Jason Zachary voiced their opposition to the hire, with some alluding to the Penn State allegations more explicitly than others.
The Rock, an iconic, frequently repainted campus landmark and canvas of free expression across the street from Stokely Hall where many football players live, loudly proclaimed “Schiano Covered Up Child Rape At Penn State.”
“I thought that was too far,” Reed said. “I think most people kind of threw gasoline on that fire because it was the one thing that got the attention of a lot of people and state legislators and people in government that apparently made phone calls and threatened to pull funding and all those things.”
Meanwhile, fans had finished their campus march and gathered on the steps of the Anderson Training Center, the 145,000-square-foot team facility that also houses the athletic administration offices. At its early evening peak, the crowd grew to about 150 people, knowing that those inside — mostly Currie — could hear them. Others, including fan-favorite receiver Jauan Jennings, drove by and honked their horns.
Instead of announcing Schiano as its new head coach Sunday night as planned, Tennessee suddenly backed out of the hire. Hours after the hiring was leaked, it was undone.
The reversal was unheard of in college sports, and it reverberated throughout the industry. At a popular intercollegiate athletics conference in New York City the next week, it was the main topic of conversation. The athletic directors in attendance feared that an internet mob could be weaponized against him or her in the future.
Schiano says that he doesn’t remember exactly how he found out that the deal had fallen apart, just the feeling — that he’d gone into the team meeting in Columbus, and by the time he was done around 4 p.m. — it was all over.
“It really wasn’t a lot of fun,” Schiano said. “But the good thing is we had the Big Ten championship game to prepare for, and that’s exactly what I did. We went and played really good defense against Wisconsin and won. Sometimes, it’s a blessing in disguise, right? Just to get lost in that.”
So Currie had to restart his search. By the next morning, he and Gundy were back in contact and making new plans to meet.
Tuesday, Nov. 28: Mike Gundy is out
In addition to trying to hire a coach, Currie was trying to appease a university administration spooked by the backlash to his Schiano offer. He felt it was important to move quickly. Currie flew to Dallas on Tuesday and met with Gundy for a few hours at the Dallas Fort-Worth airport Grand Hyatt.
Currie made Gundy an offer, which he mulled for a few hours. In the meantime, news leaked about the two sides meeting, and fans worked themselves into a frenzy. That evening, Gundy called Currie back and said no to Tennessee, opting to stay put at his alma mater. Gundy then received a $675,000 raise from the Cowboys’ administration, bumping up his annual salary to $5 million per year.
After the call from Gundy, Currie exchanged a series of messages with North Carolina State head coach Dave Doeren’s agent, Jordan Bazant. When Currie told Bazant that Gundy was out, Bazant wrote, “Let’s get this done.” Currie flew to Raleigh late that night to meet with Doeren on Wednesday. Pressure mounted to get a coach — one who would say yes — as soon as possible.
And Currie began running into problems around the first-ever December signing period; coaches had recruiting visits scheduled that they couldn’t suspiciously cancel. That affected availability. (Doeren had a visit with a recruit planned for Wednesday night, which ultimately impacted the timeline of the search.) Anything that slowed down any part of the process added stress and fed into the perception that Tennessee couldn’t get out of its own way.
Thursday, Nov. 30: The Wi-Fi goes out
Doeren was “fired up” about the possibility of coaching at Tennessee, Bazant wrote to Currie on Thursday morning. About 40 minutes later, without receiving a response, Bazant added that he really needed to hear from Currie soon.
Meanwhile, on social media and in Currie’s inbox, Tennessee fans expressed their displeasure with Doeren this time — he’d been considered on the hot seat at NC State just the season before, was this coach really good enough for Tennessee? — and at least one person involved in the search process wondered if there might be yet another full-on fan revolt if he were hired.
From Raleigh, Currie boarded a cross-country Delta flight to Los Angeles with plans to meet Washington State head coach Mike Leach at the Ritz-Carlton in Marina del Rey. There was no Wi-Fi available on the flight.
No one at Tennessee could reach him, and the messages between high-level administrators grew increasingly frantic and frustrated throughout the day. By the time Currie checked in to tell Davenport he’d met with Leach and it had gone well, she had ordered him to return to Knoxville and told him that he could not offer the job.
NC State had announced a new five-year extension for Doeren.
“I am very sorry for the stress I caused by the (Wi-Fi) outage on the Delta flight,” Currie wrote in an email to Davenport and others. “I had every intention of being able to communicate and that we could still get DD deal done while I was traveling but without an immediate answer, the negative social media assaults against (Doeren) and the media news of their negotiating with NCSU, I was concerned that I needed to be in position to meet with other candidates, including Coach Leach who was in LA recruiting.”
Davenport responded that the first she had heard of the meeting with Leach was when Currie landed in Los Angeles, after “six hours” of trying and failing to contact Currie. “Because of the confusion from earlier in the day with the other candidate (Doeren), I asked you not to pursue any discussions about employment with any additional candidates.” Davenport asked Currie to meet her at 9 a.m.
Friday, Dec. 1: Currie is out as athletic director; Fulmer is in
Just eight months after being hired, Currie was fired, and Fulmer was a natural pick to replace him as athletic director. Officially, he’d been working in an advisory role, but he had the name recognition, trust and confidence from those wearing orange that he wanted what was best for Tennessee as badly as they did. To those in Currie’s orbit, Fulmer had been puppeteering the move all along.
Fulmer took the driver’s seat of the search and pursued sit-downs with three key targets: Auburn defensive coordinator Kevin Steele, Georgia defensive coordinator Mel Tucker and Alabama defensive coordinator Jeremy Pruitt. Pruitt boarded a Tennessee-provided plane to New York City to meet with Fulmer at the sport’s annual season-ending run of banquets and events. Mississippi State also had expressed interest in Pruitt in the weeks since Alabama’s 11-1 regular season ended with an Iron Bowl loss, but Pruitt’s focus was on the Tennessee job.
(Kim Klement / USA Today)
Thursday, Dec. 7: Pruitt receives an offer
Fulmer circled back for second interviews with his leading trio, meeting with Pruitt in Dallas before extending an offer.
“You go through the process of interviews and background checks, and you are trying to check all the boxes to make the right hire,” Fulmer told The Athletic in 2018. “He passed them on all accounts.”
The opening chapters of Tennessee’s search were unpredictable and wild. With the process largely simplified after Currie’s mid-search firing, Fulmer worked quickly. Within a week, he made a hire. A month after taking the Tennessee job, Pruitt helped the Crimson Tide capture the national title, his second as a coordinator, following up a 2013 title at Florida State.
Pruitt’s tenure reached a crescendo by closing the 2019 season with a six-game winning streak, capped by a comeback victory over Indiana in the Gator Bowl to finish 8-5.
“This decade is going to be the decade of the Vols. You got me?” Pruitt told his team in the locker room after the game.
Fulmer rewarded Pruitt with a raise and extension after the season, and at a recruiting event in February, Fulmer told a room full of boosters, “The Vols are back. And, before long, we’ll be taking a bite out of everybody we play’s ass.”
Like Jones, the bottom fell out on the program in a single season. The COVID-19 pandemic shut down the sport that spring, and Tennessee managed just three wins in that fall’s 10-game, all-SEC schedule.
In November 2020, a whistleblower alerted university administration to rampant violations within the football program. By January, Pruitt was fired for cause along with two assistants and nearly all the recruiting staff. Fulmer also retired but is due $37,500 per month ($450,000 annually) through the end of 2023 — the same financial buyout agreement his contract demanded if he were fired.
“Greg Schiano was the wrong fit for Tennessee. That doesn’t mean Jeremy Pruitt was the right fit,” Travis said. “There were a lot of people I would imagine that Tennessee could have hired that would have worked on a better level than Jeremy Pruitt.”
But Tennessee’s wild 2017 search ended with Pruitt, and a coaching search unlike any other ended the same way each of its searches has concluded since Fulmer was pushed out as coach — with the Vols, once again looking for a savior to pick up the pieces. (This time, with an NCAA investigation hanging over the search.)
Chancellor Donde Plowman, who replaced Davenport, entrusted new athletic director Danny White with the latest search. Together, they waded through a thinned candidate pool and entrusted the future of the Tennesee program to Josh Heupel, who had spent three seasons working under White at UCF.
Now, these three new leaders must deliver, the latest in a long line of caretakers tasked with returning a once-proud program to its winning ways.
If they can’t? Well, there’s no doubt they’ll hear about it.
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LOL at Clay Travis.
Currie literally had a cadre of experienced P5 coaches on the hook, all with head coaching experience and they ended up with . . . Jeremy Pruitt.
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thank you Houstoncat93
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Later that Sunday, Travis also tweeted out Currie’s personal cellphone number, prompting angry fans to flood Currie’s phone with calls and texts.
“I think when you make a decision like that, the public should have an ability to respond to you,” Travis said. “There are certain jobs that are part of a public trust in my mind, and one of them would be head coach at Tennessee. One of them would be an athletic director at Tennessee.”
Travis says he doesn’t regret what he did then but wouldn’t do it again. “I’m in a different spot now,” he said. “Four years later, I feel like it might be punching down for me to go after an athletic director in a way that maybe wasn’t then.”
:lol:
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Not at all surprised by the size of Clay's ego there.
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Dave Chappelle has made the phrase “punching down” great again
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Currie flew to Dallas on Tuesday and met with Gundy for a few hours at the Dallas Fort-Worth airport Grand Hyatt.
Is this the same Hotel that Currie locked himself in for a couple of days before he hired oscar?
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Thanks for posting the article, HouCat. Saves me on paying for gE premium this month.
Also, let it be known that this is The Greatest Story Ever Told. But it was published a day or two too soon since their golden boy Jon Gruden was just resigned from the Raiders today after it was revealed he was a complete :opcat:
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Thanks for posting the article, HouCat. Saves me on paying for gE premium this month.
Also, let it be known that this is The Greatest Story Ever Told. But it was published a day or two too soon since their golden boy Jon Gruden was just resigned from the Raiders today after it was revealed he was a complete :opcat:
Speaking of which, does anyone remember the cell phone video that some douche took while following Currie all the while yelling "Hire Gruden"?
Currie is one of the best con-artists there has been. He's fooled multiple D1 schools, coaches, and agents into thinking he's a competent AD.
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Thanks for posting the article, HouCat. Saves me on paying for gE premium this month.
Also, let it be known that this is The Greatest Story Ever Told. But it was published a day or two too soon since their golden boy Jon Gruden was just resigned from the Raiders today after it was revealed he was a complete :opcat:
Speaking of which, does anyone remember the cell phone video that some douche took while following Currie all the while yelling "Hire Gruden"?
Currie is one of the best con-artists there has been. He's fooled multiple D1 schools, coaches, and agents into thinking he's a competent AD.
I would say that he is a competent AD overall. Great at raising money but bad at managing relationships/getting out of his own way.
If Fulmer hadn't pulled the rug out he might of got Leach to Knoxville.
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Thanks for posting the article, HouCat. Saves me on paying for gE premium this month.
Also, let it be known that this is The Greatest Story Ever Told. But it was published a day or two too soon since their golden boy Jon Gruden was just resigned from the Raiders today after it was revealed he was a complete :opcat:
Speaking of which, does anyone remember the cell phone video that some douche took while following Currie all the while yelling "Hire Gruden"?
Currie is one of the best con-artists there has been. He's fooled multiple D1 schools, coaches, and agents into thinking he's a competent AD.
I would say that he is a competent AD overall. Great at raising money but bad at managing relationships/getting out of his own way.
If Fulmer hadn't pulled the rug out he might of got Leach to Knoxville.
What makes you think he's great at raising money? Did he raise a ton of money at Wake Forest or Tennessee the first time? What about the second time around at either university? He presided over a time where K-State athletics was having almost unprecedented success in all sports, and we were also receiving crazy amounts of money from TV deals. An untrained monkey could have raked in millions during then.
The number one job of an AD is managing relationships. It's literally just about all they do. If they're not successful at that, then they're going to struggle in just about every other aspect of their job.
Can anyone name another P5, or even G5, athletic director who has been hired and fired in a shorter time span that Currie was at Tennessee?
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IIRC another part of his fundraising success here was Currie ignored an unwritten rule and went after any and all potential big donors that were previously considered to be "owned" by other University entities (buisness school, ag school or what have you)
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Thanks for posting the article, HouCat. Saves me on paying for gE premium this month.
Also, let it be known that this is The Greatest Story Ever Told. But it was published a day or two too soon since their golden boy Jon Gruden was just resigned from the Raiders today after it was revealed he was a complete :opcat:
Speaking of which, does anyone remember the cell phone video that some douche took while following Currie all the while yelling "Hire Gruden"?
Currie is one of the best con-artists there has been. He's fooled multiple D1 schools, coaches, and agents into thinking he's a competent AD.
I would say that he is a competent AD overall. Great at raising money but bad at managing relationships/getting out of his own way.
If Fulmer hadn't pulled the rug out he might of got Leach to Knoxville.
What makes you think he's great at raising money? Did he raise a ton of money at Wake Forest or Tennessee the first time? What about the second time around at either university? He presided over a time where K-State athletics was having almost unprecedented success in all sports, and we were also receiving crazy amounts of money from TV deals. An untrained monkey could have raked in millions during then.
The number one job of an AD is managing relationships. It's literally just about all they do. If they're not successful at that, then they're going to struggle in just about every other aspect of their job.
Can anyone name another P5, or even G5, athletic director who has been hired and fired in a shorter time span that Currie was at Tennessee?
He oversaw a number of big fundraising projects at Tennessee that were a big part of him getting our job, IIRC. We upgraded most of our facilities significantly under his watch. I don't like John Currie but I can admit he did very well with facilities and fundraising. I don't think our facilities are anywhere close to where they are today without him. He helped us operate like a legitimate athletic department in many respects. Hell, just before he got here we were doing atrocious napkin extensions with Ron Prince.
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Curries greatest fault was Martin. He took on the Snyder Family Mafia. People forget that our previous administration, facilitated by Wefald allowed the athletic department to be run like a personal financial fiefdom: Wefald, Krause and Snyder.
The post Wefald audit was an embarrassment.
Remember Weiser, outside of hiring Huggins was talking the department into giving him $250k personal loans. He along with Krause were sending the athletic department consulting bills to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars payable to their LLC’s. Krause was drawing up multi million dollar contracts on rough ridin' cocktail napkins.
What a shitshow.
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Curries greatest fault was Martin. He took on the Snyder Family Mafia. People forget that our previous administration, facilitated by Wefald allowed the athletic department to be run like a personal financial fiefdom: Wefald, Krause and Snyder.
The post Wefald audit was an embarrassment.
Remember Weiser, outside of hiring Huggins was talking the department into giving him $250k personal loans. He along with Krause were sending the athletic department consulting bills to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars payable to their LLC’s. Krause was drawing up multi million dollar contracts on rough ridin' cocktail napkins.
What a shitshow.
Add to that the craptastic eight-year reign of Urick and you've got 15+ consecutive years of buffoonery.
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Curries greatest fault was Martin. He took on the Snyder Family Mafia. People forget that our previous administration, facilitated by Wefald allowed the athletic department to be run like a personal financial fiefdom: Wefald, Krause and Snyder.
The post Wefald audit was an embarrassment.
Remember Weiser, outside of hiring Huggins was talking the department into giving him $250k personal loans. He along with Krause were sending the athletic department consulting bills to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars payable to their LLC’s. Krause was drawing up multi million dollar contracts on rough ridin' cocktail napkins.
What a shitshow.
Add to that the craptastic eight-year reign of Urick and you've got 15+ consecutive years of buffoonery.
Oh yes, Max was so dynamic that in the midst of the greatest football ever at K-State he didn’t think he could raise $13 million dollars.
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Thanks for posting the article, HouCat. Saves me on paying for gE premium this month.
Also, let it be known that this is The Greatest Story Ever Told. But it was published a day or two too soon since their golden boy Jon Gruden was just resigned from the Raiders today after it was revealed he was a complete :opcat:
Speaking of which, does anyone remember the cell phone video that some douche took while following Currie all the while yelling "Hire Gruden"?
Currie is one of the best con-artists there has been. He's fooled multiple D1 schools, coaches, and agents into thinking he's a competent AD.
I would say that he is a competent AD overall. Great at raising money but bad at managing relationships/getting out of his own way.
If Fulmer hadn't pulled the rug out he might of got Leach to Knoxville.
What makes you think he's great at raising money? Did he raise a ton of money at Wake Forest or Tennessee the first time? What about the second time around at either university? He presided over a time where K-State athletics was having almost unprecedented success in all sports, and we were also receiving crazy amounts of money from TV deals. An untrained monkey could have raked in millions during then.
The number one job of an AD is managing relationships. It's literally just about all they do. If they're not successful at that, then they're going to struggle in just about every other aspect of their job.
Can anyone name another P5, or even G5, athletic director who has been hired and fired in a shorter time span that Currie was at Tennessee?
He oversaw a number of big fundraising projects at Tennessee that were a big part of him getting our job, IIRC. We upgraded most of our facilities significantly under his watch. I don't like John Currie but I can admit he did very well with facilities and fundraising. I don't think our facilities are anywhere close to where they are today without him. He helped us operate like a legitimate athletic department in many respects. Hell, just before he got here we were doing atrocious napkin extensions with Ron Prince.
Well, it certainly is hard for me to argue any of that. I would still be curious to know the answer to this question though,
Can anyone name another P5, or even G5, athletic director who has been hired and fired in a shorter time span that Currie was at Tennessee?
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Thanks for posting the article, HouCat. Saves me on paying for gE premium this month.
Also, let it be known that this is The Greatest Story Ever Told. But it was published a day or two too soon since their golden boy Jon Gruden was just resigned from the Raiders today after it was revealed he was a complete :opcat:
Speaking of which, does anyone remember the cell phone video that some douche took while following Currie all the while yelling "Hire Gruden"?
Currie is one of the best con-artists there has been. He's fooled multiple D1 schools, coaches, and agents into thinking he's a competent AD.
I would say that he is a competent AD overall. Great at raising money but bad at managing relationships/getting out of his own way.
If Fulmer hadn't pulled the rug out he might of got Leach to Knoxville.
What makes you think he's great at raising money? Did he raise a ton of money at Wake Forest or Tennessee the first time? What about the second time around at either university? He presided over a time where K-State athletics was having almost unprecedented success in all sports, and we were also receiving crazy amounts of money from TV deals. An untrained monkey could have raked in millions during then.
The number one job of an AD is managing relationships. It's literally just about all they do. If they're not successful at that, then they're going to struggle in just about every other aspect of their job.
Can anyone name another P5, or even G5, athletic director who has been hired and fired in a shorter time span that Currie was at Tennessee?
He oversaw a number of big fundraising projects at Tennessee that were a big part of him getting our job, IIRC. We upgraded most of our facilities significantly under his watch. I don't like John Currie but I can admit he did very well with facilities and fundraising. I don't think our facilities are anywhere close to where they are today without him. He helped us operate like a legitimate athletic department in many respects. Hell, just before he got here we were doing atrocious napkin extensions with Ron Prince.
Well, it certainly is hard for me to argue any of that. I would still be curious to know the answer to this question though,
Can anyone name another P5, or even G5, athletic director who has been hired and fired in a shorter time span that Currie was at Tennessee?
Who the hell knows, I'm sure there have been some that have been shorter but that isn't the least bit relevant. Jeff Long's tenure at KU was double that of Currie at Tennessee and Long was by any standard a horrible AD, maybe the worst AD tenure in modern history. It's also been made very apparent that Currie shouldn't have been fired from Tennessee, he was a fall guy for a president who lost control and an old football coach who had too much power and didn't know what the hell he was doing.
I can't believe you have people on here having to cape up for John Currie.
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“The only five-star that we even concern ourselves with is a five-star heart,” Jones said
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“The only five-star that we even concern ourselves with is a five-star heart,” Jones said
A truly remarkable quote for the coach of Tennessee.
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“The only five-star that we even concern ourselves with is a five-star heart,” Jones said
A truly remarkable quote for the coach of Tennessee.
But it would sell like hotcakes on a purple shirt at a Catbacker's event! LOL
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I don’t think I’m cape-ing up for Currie. He deserves all the ridicule he’s received for the handling of Frank. IMO he doesn’t deserve the criticism for his handling of Snyder. While I’m no fan of oscar, we could have done far worse, but oscar’s tenure is sliding fast.
Currie absolutely turned our tin horn fiefdom of an athletic department into a legit major conference level administrated entity. I don’t like Cap’n Kirk either. But he recognized that we had a small timey looking athletic complex on a prominent corner of campus. He instructed Currie to change that perception and that’s exactly what Currie got rolling in unprecedented fashion. He executed a plan at a level never before seen at K-State.
From what I’ve seen Currie was conducting a very solid coaching search for Tennessee and the Pres allowed a booster, a crap brained former football coach and blow hard media personality to blow all that up.
A few years later she had to tell the world the crap brained former football coach turned AD was resigning. The entire football staff had been crap canned and that Tenn was reporting major violations to the NCAA.