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I mean getting killed by 16 points as a one seed in the final 4 has to be close to a record right?  I'm curious not because I'm ashamed they let the state of Kansas and Big 12 down by a joke of a showing but because I'm a huge trivia buff (love stump the chumps).  I tried to look up but got bored quickly.  All that came up was Nova breaking a record for 3's made and I didn't want to search any longer.  Your help is appreciated.  tia

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Fifteen minutes later, when the Kansas locker room opened its doors to the media, the Jayhawks were still crying. Literally, bawling. All of them. I've never seen anything like it, and I've seen devastated college locker rooms -- after losses in the Final Four, the national championship game -- ever

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Re: Is KU getting their ass kicked as a #1 seed in final 4 a record?
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2018, 03:03:12 PM »
No, I think Lon and OU own that record from a couple years ago. Villanova scored 1.52 pop in that game, "only" 1.34 yesterday vs KU. It was Self's worst defensive game at KU though.

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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2018, 03:21:02 PM »
No, I think Lon and OU own that record from a couple years ago. Villanova scored 1.52 pop in that game, "only" 1.34 yesterday vs KU. It was Self's worst defensive game at KU though.

I thought this initially too but they were both #2 seeds that year.

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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2018, 03:22:06 PM »
I mean overall in the final 4, yes, OU has the record, but not as a #1 seed.

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Re: Is KU getting their ass kicked as a #1 seed in final 4 a record?
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2018, 03:23:22 PM »
I missed the #1 seed part. Not sure.

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Re: Is KU getting their ass kicked as a #1 seed in final 4 a record?
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2018, 03:39:47 PM »
I mean overall in the final 4, yes, OU has the record, but not as a #1 seed.

Thanks for clarification TBT.  I'd be surprised if it's not a record.  I mean how does a #1 seed get killed like that in the final 4?  :lol: :lol:

Thank god Villanova put the brakes when they did. 
Fifteen minutes later, when the Kansas locker room opened its doors to the media, the Jayhawks were still crying. Literally, bawling. All of them. I've never seen anything like it, and I've seen devastated college locker rooms -- after losses in the Final Four, the national championship game -- ever

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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2018, 03:51:26 PM »
I mean overall in the final 4, yes, OU has the record, but not as a #1 seed.

Thanks for clarification TBT.  I'd be surprised if it's not a record.  I mean how does a #1 seed get killed like that in the final 4?  :lol: :lol:

Thank god Villanova put the brakes when they did.

I think _33 expressed it the best on Twitter.  They weren't even supposed to be there, so just getting there was a major accomplishment.

https://twitter.com/33KSU/status/980279818804744192

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Re: Is KU getting their ass kicked as a #1 seed in final 4 a record?
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2018, 05:30:49 PM »
after getting killed from deep, ku fans are seriously discussing the need to get rid of the 3 pt line


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Re: Is KU getting their ass kicked as a #1 seed in final 4 a record?
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2018, 05:37:13 PM »
after getting killed from deep, ku fans are seriously discussing the need to get rid of the 3 pt line

It's unfair that a less talented team can completely dominate a more talented team just cause they shoot good
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Re: Is KU getting their ass kicked as a #1 seed in final 4 a record?
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2018, 05:37:20 PM »
Yeah it's nearly unthinkable that a team ranked preseason #4 would wind up as one of the last 4 teams playing. That puts Loyola's run to shame IMO.

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Re: Is KU getting their ass kicked as a #1 seed in final 4 a record?
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2018, 06:23:14 PM »
after getting killed from deep, ku fans are seriously discussing the need to get rid of the 3 pt line

Please tell me that they're not referencing the original rules that Naismith wrote? :sdeek:

Speaking of Naismith here's some trivia for you;  He wasn't really a doctor and he died of syphilis.
Fifteen minutes later, when the Kansas locker room opened its doors to the media, the Jayhawks were still crying. Literally, bawling. All of them. I've never seen anything like it, and I've seen devastated college locker rooms -- after losses in the Final Four, the national championship game -- ever

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Re: Is KU getting their ass kicked as a #1 seed in final 4 a record?
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2018, 07:26:22 PM »
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Re: Is KU getting their ass kicked as a #1 seed in final 4 a record?
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2018, 07:38:42 PM »
Since the expansion to 64 teams, I believe KUs loss is the 2nd worst loss by a 1 seed in the Final Four.
In 85' 1 seed Georgetown beat 1 seed St Johns 77-59.

Memphis best Ucla 78-63 in battle of 1 seeds in 2008. 


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Re: Is KU getting their ass kicked as a #1 seed in final 4 a record?
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2018, 07:40:06 PM »
eff YEA KU LOST! 
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Re: Is KU getting their ass kicked as a #1 seed in final 4 a record?
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2018, 08:18:20 PM »
felt p great at the bars last night and patting the ku bros on their backs and congratting them on a great season


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Re: Is KU getting their ass kicked as a #1 seed in final 4 a record?
« Reply #15 on: April 01, 2018, 08:26:52 PM »
last night’s embarrassing performance probably isn’t enough for them to disband their hoops program but I really think that it’s something for them to consider


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Re: Is KU getting their ass kicked as a #1 seed in final 4 a record?
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2018, 08:28:06 PM »
Is there a site where you can easily see the craziest MOV/MOL by seeds in the tournament?

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Re: Is KU getting their ass kicked as a #1 seed in final 4 a record?
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2018, 09:17:55 PM »
I don’t think self can handle coaching much longer physically. He looks like a walrus

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Re: Is KU getting their ass kicked as a #1 seed in final 4 a record?
« Reply #18 on: April 01, 2018, 09:22:40 PM »
after getting killed from deep, ku fans are seriously discussing the need to get rid of the 3 pt line

Some of them believe that if Doke cones back, he should come off the bench next year.

Probably the same fans that were still bitching pre- game " I hope Graham doesn't foul out on a BS foul like he did in 2016 and cost us the game" or the " Nova couldn't have played better, we couldn't have played worse in 1st half".   It's like they forgot those 2 first halves when OK St jumped all over them.

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Re: Is KU getting their ass kicked as a #1 seed in final 4 a record?
« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2018, 09:56:15 PM »
This focused on 1st round games, but even with just that info, it confirmed that KSU's 16-point loss to Loyola wasn't the worst tournament loss oat to an 11 seed.

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While those teams have had success throughout the tournament, it was Pepperdine in the 2000 tournament who gave us the biggest first round upset by an 11 seed over a 6 seed. The Waves beat Indiana in a 20-point blowout, 77-57, in Bobby Knight’s last game as the Hoosiers’ coach.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/bracket-beat/2017-03-13/march-madness-getting-know-no-11-seed-ncaa-tournament

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Re: Is KU getting their ass kicked as a #1 seed in final 4 a record?
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2018, 12:11:59 AM »
6 teams ( 1 9-seed, 1 10-seed, 4 11- seeds) wore a road jersey in 1st rd and made it to the Final 4.

1 seed lost 4 times to these teams in Elite 8.  Ku with biggest loss-
11 VCU 71-61 over Ku
11 G Mason 86-84 over Uconn
11 Lsu 59-57 over Kentucky
10 Syracuse 68-62 over Virginia

9 Wich St beat 2 Ohio St 70-66

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Re: Is KU getting their ass kicked as a #1 seed in final 4 a record?
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2018, 10:48:38 AM »
KU beat UNC 84-66 in the 2008 National Semifinal. Both were #1 seeds IIRC, but I'm too lazy to look it up. :tsc:

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Re: Is KU getting their ass kicked as a #1 seed in final 4 a record?
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2018, 10:57:52 AM »
KU beat UNC 84-66 in the 2008 National Semifinal. Both were #1 seeds IIRC, but I'm too lazy to look it up. :tsc:
I think that was the F4 that was all 1 seeds

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Re: Is KU getting their ass kicked as a #1 seed in final 4 a record?
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2018, 11:17:19 AM »
6 teams ( 1 9-seed, 1 10-seed, 4 11- seeds) wore a road jersey in 1st rd and made it to the Final 4.

1 seed lost 4 times to these teams in Elite 8.  Ku with biggest loss-
11 VCU 71-61 over Ku
11 G Mason 86-84 over Uconn
11 Lsu 59-57 over Kentucky
10 Syracuse 68-62 over Virginia

9 Wich St beat 2 Ohio St 70-66

Just confirms my theory that if you’re going to be an 8 seed or worse, an 11 is where you wanna be.

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« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2018, 12:47:41 PM »
Since 85' -

7 seed =3-7 in Elite 8. 
8 seed = 5-3 in the Elite 8
9 seed =1-3 in the Elite 8
10 seed = 1-7 in Elite 8
11 seed = 4-4 in Elite 8

7 seed = 10-17 in S16
8 seed = 8-5 in S16
9 seed = 4-3 in S16
10 seed = 8-16 in S16
11 seed = 8-14 in S16

* So 8/9 seeds don't make S16 as often but win 60% in S16 and 50% in E8. 7/10 seeds win 36% in S16 and 22% in E8.  11 seeds at 36% and 50%

*5 seeds - only 8 of 136 have made the Elite 8.  They are 6-2 when doing so. And then 3-3 (F4) and 0-3 in title game.

* 9 seeds Sweet 16 wins doubled this year.

* 20 times a 12 seed, 6 times a 13 seed made Sweet 16. Mizzou as 12 seed in 2002 only one to win