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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2018, 02:04:37 PM »
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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #51 on: January 26, 2018, 02:05:49 PM »
losing to lasalle was inexcusable

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #52 on: January 26, 2018, 02:06:46 PM »
That pup is huge for 7 weeks  :eek:

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #53 on: January 26, 2018, 02:09:02 PM »
I mostly hate him because he couldn't, as predicted, sustain program success, and I have no confidence he will do so in the future. An objective look at the K-State roster suggests good things in 2019 and then the deluge.

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #54 on: January 26, 2018, 02:10:34 PM »
It's hard to love barely above competent.

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #55 on: January 26, 2018, 03:07:55 PM »
our disdain for oscar is not unique to our fanbase, the guy is a rough ridin' downgrade


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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #56 on: January 26, 2018, 03:17:00 PM »
It's hard to love barely above competent.
Even harder to love only competent once every 4 or 5 years
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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #57 on: January 26, 2018, 03:41:23 PM »
Well I don’t like him because he’s not Frank and does the opposite of what Frank would do in almost every situation (win NCAA games, be loved by his players, be accountable, be charismatic, it goes on)

His guys are very loyal to him.
Yeah, not sure where that statement came from. The guys who have stuck around love oscar and the staff.

He's had two players in like 6 years that have seemed to really, genuinely enjoy him. They are both still on the team. You guys are suffering from an acute case of recency bias.

I know you are gE'ing but I (and my multiple sources close to the situation) will still point out that you are 100% incorrect.

gE'ing a bit, but I don't think oscar is probably a real popular coach. Half of the kids he's recruited have either been booted, been encouraged to move on, or transferred of their own accord. Doubt those guys have a lot of love for oscar, and I'm sure he's not batting 1.000 with the guys who have stayed.
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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #58 on: January 26, 2018, 03:42:38 PM »
our disdain for oscar is not unique to our fanbase, the guy is a rough ridin' downgrade

Couldn’t have said it better myself

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #59 on: January 26, 2018, 03:43:12 PM »
It's hard to love barely above competent.
Even harder to love only competent once every 4 or 5 years


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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #60 on: January 26, 2018, 03:48:25 PM »
our disdain for oscar is not unique to our fanbase, the guy is a rough ridin' downgrade

Couldn’t have said it better myself

Yes, people who claim to like oscar are just lying to themselves in an attempt to make the best out of a bad situation. It doesn't make them bad people, but it does make them wrong. I'm sure there were some oscar defenders at Illinois, but I sure as crap haven't heard from any of them after he got fired. They probably just breathed a giant sigh of relief that they didn't have to defend the guy anymore and started coming up with talking points for why John Groce wasn't a waste of space.
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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #61 on: January 26, 2018, 04:14:06 PM »
I think he'll retire within 4 years.  He's getting up there.   :pray:

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #62 on: January 26, 2018, 04:39:03 PM »
I love Oscar as much as Charlie Brown loves joe shlabotnik.

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #63 on: January 26, 2018, 05:11:44 PM »
losing to lasalle was inexcusable

I don't care about that much at all. The fact that he hasn't even sniffed another attempt at a LaSalle situation is far, far worse.

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #64 on: January 26, 2018, 05:20:43 PM »
losing to lasalle was inexcusable

I don't care about that much at all. The fact that he hasn't even sniffed another attempt at a LaSalle situation is far, far worse.


no losing to la salle in a de facto home game with hot rod and angel is unforgiveable
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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #65 on: January 26, 2018, 05:25:32 PM »
the fact that we had to rely on our boy oscar’s last second shot in the corner baseline play


I got pissed just typing that


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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #66 on: January 26, 2018, 05:26:16 PM »
losing to lasalle was inexcusable

I don't care about that much at all. The fact that he hasn't even sniffed another attempt at a LaSalle situation is far, far worse.


no losing to la salle in a de facto home game with hot rod and angel is unforgiveable
Every program loses games like that all the time. The great ones just play lots of them

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #67 on: January 26, 2018, 07:12:28 PM »
Losing to LaSalle. Losing the program basically and having to rebuild. Being goofy and awkward.

If he beats LaSalle and goes to the Sweet 16 in year one some of this is moot.

If he doesn't lose Foster and others, he's our lovable goofy coach for sure right now.

If he completes this rebuild and has success the next 2 seasons including at least 1 second weekend appearance in the NCAAs, he probably still becomes our lovable goofy coach. (to many, I realize some aren't coming back)

Agree with a lot of this.  The only thing I was bummed  in the first 2 years was the loss to LaSalle.

Year 3 & 4 were big disappointments.  Last year, we snuck into NCAA but had we been 10-8, 11-7 in B12 I think more of us would have been positive about the season as a whole.

This season has really taking a positive spin. We are playing like a top 25 team. Doing this thru next March will get Weber in more positive light with majority of the fan base

He's almost total opposite of Frank.  If he wins and has an exciting team (like 13' and this year), then he's fine. His dorky personality gets overlooked if we have a good team on the floor

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #68 on: January 26, 2018, 07:38:52 PM »
i don't think i would like him any more if he were more successful.  arguably, i would like him less.
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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #69 on: January 26, 2018, 07:39:54 PM »
its fun to win with such a dorky coach esp if it's against some hardass. i know he makes a lot of excuses and we all thought he was never going to change but it seems like he's improved as a coach.

we seem mumped after our studs leave but it seems like he knows how to find good players and we'll have momentum after our final 4 this year and nc next. lots of potential with oscar :excited: <-- my face when i realize we have him for at least 3 more years

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #70 on: January 29, 2018, 10:16:48 PM »
He fills his roster with five actual power 5 players, two of whom play the same position, and eight stiffs.

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #71 on: January 29, 2018, 11:22:56 PM »
losing to lasalle was inexcusable

I don't care about that much at all. The fact that he hasn't even sniffed another attempt at a LaSalle situation is far, far worse.


no losing to la salle in a de facto home game with hot rod and angel is unforgiveable

We lost a 4-13 game in the tournament, bfd, no one liked that team anyway despite them winning a conference championship

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #72 on: January 29, 2018, 11:35:28 PM »
Games like this one.

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #73 on: January 30, 2018, 01:13:19 AM »
Games like this one.

Getting our hopes up for games like this and then crashing back to the reality that oscar hasn't been to a sweet 16 since the 04/05 Illinois runner up team and will likely never get there again because he is a bona fide loser

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Re: How come we don't love Oscar?
« Reply #74 on: January 30, 2018, 02:36:19 AM »
Well I don’t like him because he’s not Frank and does the opposite of what Frank would do in almost every situation (win NCAA games, be loved by his players, be accountable, be charismatic, it goes on)


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