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Re: Can Vol fans get a wiki on why Currie is a horrible hire at Tennessee?
« Reply #1200 on: December 13, 2017, 03:41:45 PM »
it'll all settle.

In your professional opinion how much of the 5 million dollars will currie receive in settlement?  About tree fitty?
in my professional opinion i have no idea.  haven't seen his contract.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3480519-Contract-for-Tennessee-AD-John-Currie.html

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doesn't really help.  gonna depend on whether he was fired "for cause," a definition not supplied by that MOU. 


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Re: Can Vol fans get a wiki on why Currie is a horrible hire at Tennessee?
« Reply #1201 on: December 13, 2017, 03:53:19 PM »
They suspended him with pay pursuant to that contract, giving them the 60 days to investigate the "cause."  They'll probably take most of that to figure out how hard they want to push the issue.

The "cause" won't be being shitty at AD'n, it'll be insubordination for entering into agreements he wasn't authorized to and/or defying orders, particularly at the end when he'd "gone rogue."

Likely w/some time to spare in that 60 days, they'll pitch at Currie's lawyer how strong of a case they think they have and propose a settlement where he only gets a fraction of what he'd be entitled to if terminated without cause.  They'll probably hope that Currie is the sort who will put higher value than most on not having "terminated with cause" on his official record.

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Re: Can Vol fans get a wiki on why Currie is a horrible hire at Tennessee?
« Reply #1202 on: December 13, 2017, 03:57:26 PM »
i just don't get how they could say he entered into any agreement when the agreement wasn't official until it was signed by the people who would approve such a thing

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Re: Can Vol fans get a wiki on why Currie is a horrible hire at Tennessee?
« Reply #1203 on: December 13, 2017, 04:06:16 PM »
They suspended him with pay pursuant to that contract, giving them the 60 days to investigate the "cause."  They'll probably take most of that to figure out how hard they want to push the issue.

The "cause" won't be being shitty at AD'n, it'll be insubordination for entering into agreements he wasn't authorized to and/or defying orders, particularly at the end when he'd "gone rogue."

Likely w/some time to spare in that 60 days, they'll pitch at Currie's lawyer how strong of a case they think they have and propose a settlement where he only gets a fraction of what he'd be entitled to if terminated without cause.  They'll probably hope that Currie is the sort who will put higher value than most on not having "terminated with cause" on his official record.

Now THAT is a professional opinion!
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Re: Can Vol fans get a wiki on why Currie is a horrible hire at Tennessee?
« Reply #1204 on: December 13, 2017, 04:09:35 PM »
i just don't get how they could say he entered into any agreement when the agreement wasn't official until it was signed by the people who would approve such a thing

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Re: Can Vol fans get a wiki on why Currie is a horrible hire at Tennessee?
« Reply #1205 on: December 13, 2017, 04:26:20 PM »
Whether Currie had agency to bind the other signatories is very much in doubt, and in fact I would think he did not.

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Re: Can Vol fans get a wiki on why Currie is a horrible hire at Tennessee?
« Reply #1206 on: December 13, 2017, 04:34:34 PM »
Is flying to LA to meet with leach to be vetted for a new job while you should be trying to hire a coach for your current employer in play here?
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Re: Can Vol fans get a wiki on why Currie is a horrible hire at Tennessee?
« Reply #1207 on: December 13, 2017, 04:43:43 PM »
Is flying to LA to meet with leach to be vetted for a new job while you should be trying to hire a coach for your current employer in play here?

Yes, whatever he was doing in LA after his boss told him to get back to tennessee is probably more in play than the deal he made with Schiano or anyone else earlier in the week.

I don't think they're going to come up with anything that will be a slam-dunk for a "cause" finding.  They'll just take all the crap and tell him that's what they're going to fight over and they'll probably all agree that everyone's better off resolving it quietly.

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Re: Can Vol fans get a wiki on why Currie is a horrible hire at Tennessee?
« Reply #1208 on: December 13, 2017, 05:29:54 PM »
i just don't get how they could say he entered into any agreement when the agreement wasn't official until it was signed by the people who would approve such a thing

What makes you sure their signatures were necessary?  I don't ask that rhetorically.  I just have not seen anything clearly saying they were.  Assuming they were, it could matter whether Schiano was aware of that.

Doesn't seem like a stretch to me to expect an AD has the authority to hire a head football coach.  No one looks at the chancellor or CFO when a HC turns out to be a crappy hire.


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Re: Can Vol fans get a wiki on why Currie is a horrible hire at Tennessee?
« Reply #1209 on: December 13, 2017, 06:19:39 PM »
Didn't the document require Pres sigs?

Johnny just stepped up to the  laptop, opened up Word and typed out an MOU?


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Re: Can Vol fans get a wiki on why Currie is a horrible hire at Tennessee?
« Reply #1210 on: December 13, 2017, 06:22:31 PM »
I only skimmed the MOU, but I did not see anything in the document saying it required certain signatures to be effective.  The fact it was based on a form actually would help Schiano, since it would help explain (under his theory) why there were signature blanks on the final page for people who did not need to approve the MOU for it to be binding.


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Re: Can Vol fans get a wiki on why Currie is a horrible hire at Tennessee?
« Reply #1212 on: December 18, 2017, 03:11:26 PM »
Currie seemed to be on more solid ground than Bob Krause with the "secret" Ron Prince agreement--the one K-State subsequently paid to Prince.