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Short side option
« on: November 02, 2013, 05:03:32 PM »
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Re: Short side option
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2013, 01:29:10 AM »
It didn't help that Sams ran the play just like Waters runs it. It was a terrible decision to pitch that ball.

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Re: Short side option
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2013, 02:02:41 AM »
I remember when this play used to work a whole bunch.
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Re: Short side option
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2013, 09:22:03 AM »
I remember when this play used to work a whole bunch.

You mean with Darren and Ell, that's the only time I remember?

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Re: Short side option
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2013, 10:31:06 AM »
I remember when this play used to work a whole bunch.

You mean with Darren and Ell, that's the only time I remember?
hell I don't even remember it working then, but that would be the only time it would've worked. 2 guys that could evade tacklers in a phone booth.  but I bet they even rolled their eyes in the huddle. it's classic snyder outscheming himself. such a waste of a down. I'd love to see the numbers on how many plays per game snyder runs that and how many yards it's averaged over his career. I bet it would be hilarious and sad.
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Re: Short side option
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2013, 11:14:42 AM »
I remember when this play used to work a whole bunch.

You mean with Darren and Ell, that's the only time I remember?
hell I don't even remember it working then, but that would be the only time it would've worked. 2 guys that could evade tacklers in a phone booth.  but I bet they even rolled their eyes in the huddle. it's classic snyder outscheming himself. such a waste of a down. I'd love to see the numbers on how many plays per game snyder runs that and how many yards it's averaged over his career. I bet it would be hilarious and sad.

Yeah the short side option "working" is it going for about 5 yards.

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Re: Short side option
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2013, 12:45:14 PM »
I remember when this play used to work a whole bunch.

You mean with Darren and Ell, that's the only time I remember?

yup  :gocho:
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Re: Short side option
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2013, 12:13:58 AM »
I think Nebraska destroyed us a few times running only this play.

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Re: Short side option
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2013, 12:25:42 AM »
I like how this play went from being Water's fault to an "impossible play to execute, bill is an idiot for calling it."

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Re: Short side option
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2013, 12:53:08 AM »
I like how this play went from being Water's fault to an "impossible play to execute, bill is an idiot for calling it."

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Re: Short side option
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2013, 06:57:14 AM »
I like how this play went from being Water's fault to an "impossible play to execute, bill is an idiot for calling it."

You obviously haven't been listening to any KSU Cat fan over the last 20 years if you think we are just now hating this play.

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Re: Short side option
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2013, 08:40:18 AM »
I'm always perplexed why we run that play to the short side of the field.  My dad said it had something to do with there being less defenders on that side.  He wasn't sure.  I'm not convinced.  Both of us are LFBIQ.   

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Re: Short side option
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2013, 08:49:58 AM »
Ell and Darren had some success with it. basically because Ell and Darren were quick enough to get to the edge before the weak side defenders. that's why the coaches love it, they think they have numbers on the short side, the problem is we haven't really had anyone quick enough to exploit it since Ell and Darren. specifically the long TD run for Sproles vs. Nebraska in '02 was a short sider.

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Re: Short side option
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2013, 08:55:36 AM »
Not that I love the short side, but there's no reason Sams and Hubert can't be as fast and Ell/Sproles.

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Re: Short side option
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2013, 08:59:30 AM »
Not that I love the short side, but there's no reason Sams and Hubert can't be as fast and Ell/Sproles.
yeah. because hubert is sproles' clone. basically the same player.
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Re: Short side option
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2013, 09:02:42 AM »
Not that I love the short side, but there's no reason Sams and Hubert can't be as fast and Ell/Sproles.
yeah. because hubert is sproles' clone. basically the same player.

Rivals lists Hubert as a 4.4, Sproles as 4.5.   :dunno:

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Re: Short side option
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2013, 09:05:10 AM »
Emo stop it

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Re: Short side option
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2013, 09:12:53 AM »
Not that I love the short side, but there's no reason Sams and Hubert can't be as fast and Ell/Sproles.
yeah. because hubert is sproles' clone. basically the same player.

Rivals lists Hubert as a 4.4, Sproles as 4.5.   :dunno:

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Re: Short side option
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2013, 09:16:24 AM »
I'm always perplexed why we run that play to the short side of the field.  My dad said it had something to do with there being less defenders on that side.  He wasn't sure.  I'm not convinced.  Both of us are LFBIQ.   

Your dad is right, but execution is crucial without a lot of space to work with.

Also, a lot of times Snyder simply runs it to keep a defense honest and force them to keep an extra defender to the boundary. At least that would probably be his rationale.

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Re: Short side option
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2013, 09:56:09 AM »
Emo stop it

Stop looking at things objectively?  No. 

Like I said, I'm not a fan of the play.  My post was more about disproving the notion that the short side was effective for Ell & Sproles because they could get to the edge quicker than Sams/Hubert, who should be just as fast.  I'm saying it's not effective for some other reason. 

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Re: Short side option
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2013, 09:57:12 AM »
Emo stop it

Stop looking at things objectively?  No. 

Like I said, I'm not a fan of the play.  My post was more about disproving the notion that the short side was effective for Ell & Sproles because they could get to the edge quicker than Sams/Hubert, who should be just as fast.  I'm saying it's not effective for some other reason.

specifically i meant stop using Rivals 40 times to compare speed

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Re: Short side option
« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2013, 10:02:09 AM »
Emo stop it

Stop looking at things objectively?  No. 

Like I said, I'm not a fan of the play.  My post was more about disproving the notion that the short side was effective for Ell & Sproles because they could get to the edge quicker than Sams/Hubert, who should be just as fast.  I'm saying it's not effective for some other reason.

specifically i meant stop using Rivals 40 times to compare speed

Ok suggest a better measure.

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Re: Short side option
« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2013, 10:02:51 AM »
im bored. can anyone find any successful kstate short side options on youtube? I know i've seen some but i'd like to see them again. every one i picture Sproles super juking a guy to make it work.
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Re: Short side option
« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2013, 10:03:23 AM »
I remember Ell/Sproles had one against USC.