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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #75 on: April 01, 2013, 12:56:54 PM »
I still haven't read a good logical reason to RS anyone.  This isn't football.  Either recruit over diaz via juco or transfer or don't RS anyone so they have it available when you oscar them after next year.

This is my general thought process to RSing in basketball too.

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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #76 on: April 01, 2013, 01:03:26 PM »
Height is overrated. Should be fine, Gip and Shane both have 7'+ wing spans. Everybody should expect for DJamer to make a big jump. Gip should loose some more weight. Fincher should be able to come in and defend, really raw offensively, but has some good length.
DJamer has shown a high motor at times. I have seen Diaz do nothing (other than be tall) that DJamer or Nino can't do. I mean he seems totally uninterested in rebounding or blocking shots. Like someone else said, any of out guards are better rebounders... What do you lose by having DJamer or Nino on the floor instead of Diaz.

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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #77 on: April 01, 2013, 01:04:58 PM »
I'd love to land Severe solely for his shooting, but we NEED another ball handler for 1st semester next year.

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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #78 on: April 01, 2013, 01:10:47 PM »
Stupid question...

If you RS a player that is on Scholy (like Diaz)...his Scholy counts toward the limit for that year correct? I assume so, but if not, that could be a reason to RS

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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #79 on: April 01, 2013, 01:15:33 PM »
I like DJamer. He passes my optical sniff test. I bet he is a good player next year. I can't sustain any kind of hbiq argument though.

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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #80 on: April 01, 2013, 01:21:22 PM »
I like DJamer. He passes my optical sniff test. I bet he is a good player next year. I can't sustain any kind of hbiq argument though.

I think he has potential to be a solid post player. Good oboarder, solid dboarder, decent shot blocker. He wasn't a scorer though, but the positive was that he shot a pretty high percentage.

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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #81 on: April 01, 2013, 01:30:17 PM »
I like DJamer. He passes my optical sniff test. I bet he is a good player next year. I can't sustain any kind of hbiq argument though.

I think he has potential to be a solid post player. Good oboarder, solid dboarder, decent shot blocker. He wasn't a scorer though, but the positive was that he shot a pretty high percentage.

DJamer literally had zero post moves last year. His post move was, try to be so open that you can shoot an unguarded layup. I'm hoping that was a result of never focusing solely on basketball, and with an offseason with our coaching staff he can start to get comfortable with a couple of basic moves down low. He definitely has the size and athleticism to be an effective player at this level.
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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #82 on: April 01, 2013, 01:38:24 PM »
Gip is the only "big" that we have.  Unimpressed with DJamer and Diaz.  oscar should be recruiting jucos to replace diaz and a '14 recruit to replace DJamer. 

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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #83 on: April 01, 2013, 01:45:29 PM »
I like DJamer. He passes my optical sniff test. I bet he is a good player next year. I can't sustain any kind of hbiq argument though.

Agreed. I think he is better than Diaz. It's hard to believe Diaz was a top 150 player.

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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #84 on: April 01, 2013, 01:47:53 PM »
Stupid question...

If you RS a player that is on Scholy (like Diaz)...his Scholy counts toward the limit for that year correct? I assume so, but if not, that could be a reason to RS

yes, he would still eat a scholly. obviously I'd redshirt about everyone at some point in their careers if they didn't.

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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #85 on: April 01, 2013, 02:01:06 PM »
I thought this thread was going to be about apathy setting in around K-State basketball.

I'm sure someone else will start an apathy thread.

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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #86 on: April 01, 2013, 02:14:06 PM »
I'd love to land Severe solely for his shooting, but we NEED another ball handler for 1st semester next year.

i bet severe would be fine as a secondary ball handler.  i'd be really excited if kstate can get him.
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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #87 on: April 01, 2013, 02:18:16 PM »
Severe would be a great late signee.

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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #88 on: April 01, 2013, 02:21:20 PM »
Hey, remember Frank's late signees?  Oh, boy.   :lol:

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« Reply #89 on: April 01, 2013, 02:30:15 PM »
Hey, remember Frank's late signees?  Oh, boy.   :lol:

Yes, they were awful and were always made fun of and criticized

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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #90 on: April 01, 2013, 02:40:10 PM »
Hey, remember Frank's late signees?  Oh, boy.   :lol:

Yes, they were awful and were always made fun of and criticized
and sometimes heartbreaking (franking 95 for the jet  :cry:)

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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #91 on: April 01, 2013, 02:46:47 PM »
Hey, remember Frank's late signees?  Oh, boy.   :lol:

Yes, they were awful and were always made fun of and criticized
and sometimes heartbreaking (franking 95 for the jet  :cry:)

And then the Jet for Orris.

Can't wait to see where this progression goes.

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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #92 on: April 01, 2013, 03:06:30 PM »
Hey, remember Frank's late signees?  Oh, boy.   :lol:

Yes, they were awful and were always made fun of and criticized
and sometimes heartbreaking (franking 95 for the jet  :cry:)

And then the Jet for Orris.

Can't wait to see where this progression goes.

It's like that time the guy traded a red paper clip all the way up to a DeLorean, only opposite.

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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #93 on: April 01, 2013, 03:06:42 PM »
Tay  :gocho:

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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #94 on: April 01, 2013, 03:08:25 PM »
I hope Omari leaves and we get Severe and Django...unless Django sucks?

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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #95 on: April 01, 2013, 03:09:31 PM »
Hey, remember Frank's late signees?  Oh, boy.   :lol:

Yes, they were awful and were always made fun of and criticized
and sometimes heartbreaking (franking 95 for the jet  :cry:)

And then the Jet for Orris.

Can't wait to see where this progression goes.

It's like that time the guy traded a red paper clip all the way up to a DeLorean, only opposite.

Yes!

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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #96 on: April 01, 2013, 04:21:09 PM »
I still haven't read a good logical reason to RS anyone.  This isn't football.  Either recruit over diaz via juco or transfer or don't RS anyone so they have it available when you oscar them after next year.

If you have a logjam of talent, and somebody is willing to redshirt, you should do it. 

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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #97 on: April 01, 2013, 04:33:50 PM »
Severe would be a great late signee.

Severe will go play for a coach like Bob Huggins.


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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #98 on: April 01, 2013, 04:56:09 PM »
I still haven't read a good logical reason to RS anyone.  This isn't football.  Either recruit over diaz via juco or transfer or don't RS anyone so they have it available when you oscar them after next year.

If you have a logjam of talent, and somebody is willing to redshirt, you should do it.

I should have been more specific; I haven't heard a reason to redshirt anyone on this roster.  That reason, while logical would not apply to this team.

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Re: And it begins...
« Reply #99 on: April 01, 2013, 04:58:36 PM »
I don't see Diaz getting any bulkier, even with a rs year, and therefore no more of a force on defense. His only unique attribute is his height, which is useful.

But I think DJamer offers a more realistic option. Someone mentioned on another thread that Diaz doesn't like to play with his back to the goal. And if it is going to come down to teaching one person new tricks, or trying to get someone to forget all of their old tricks before learning the new ones, you go with the simpler process.

oscar Diaz.