Shane

[wetwillie]

Has everyone given up on Shane?  I'm a Shane homer so this hurts.  I want to blame it on oscar but I don't know how.

[CNS]

Shane needs a good pg to be good.  Blame oscar for losing angel after giving him a conf ring

[kslim]

Has everyone given up on Shane?  I'm a Shane homer so this hurts.  I want to blame it on oscar but I don't know how.

not yet because he showed what he can do with a good point guard. very wait and see mode with shane but for fucks sake his free throws and around the rim game have to get better

[sunny_cat]

Jevon will unlock Shane (I hope)

[CNS]

When Jevon gets there, if he is what he is billed to be, we will see the shane of last yr and it could free up foster and things could really get a dece amt better.

[kso_FAN]

I think Thomas will be better, but Nigel Johnson has done pretty decent at PG. He has a ways to go, but this team plays better when he's at PG for the most part.

[sunny_cat]

When Jevon gets there, if he is what he is billed to be, we will see the shane of last yr and it could free up foster and things could really get a dece amt better.

Yeah, like maybe we'll win 15 games.... 

[CNS]

I think Thomas will be better, but Nigel Johnson has done pretty decent at PG. He has a ways to go, but this team plays better when he's at PG for the most part.

I agree.  Given time and a good pg to practice against, I think he will be serviceable

[CNS]

15> 10

[sunny_cat]

15> 10

 

[CNS]

Also, I hope Jevon os super rough and intense and strong.  We need a physical leader to infect others.  The frosh could be pretty good if the get some more time but the strength and intensity needs some serious focus, imo

[wetwillie]

Has everyone given up on Shane?  I'm a Shane homer so this hurts.  I want to blame it on oscar but I don't know how.

not yet because he showed what he can do with a good point guard. very wait and see mode with shane but for fucks sake his free throws and around the rim game have to get better

Do you mean his FTR (lack of attempts)? 

[sunny_cat]

Also, I hope Jevon os super rough and intense and strong.  We need a physical leader to infect others.  The frosh could be pretty good if the get some more time but the strength and intensity needs some serious focus, imo

That's the area where we miss Frank for sure.

[CNS]

Ftr is a result of what I was just talking abt, imo.

[kslim]

Has everyone given up on Shane?  I'm a Shane homer so this hurts.  I want to blame it on oscar but I don't know how.

not yet because he showed what he can do with a good point guard. very wait and see mode with shane but for fucks sake his free throws and around the rim game have to get better

Do you mean his FTR (lack of attempts)?

im mainly talking about today, he pissed me off going 3-8 from the line and 0-6 from deep.

[sys]

there is little in his hs or college career before last year to suggest he is a .400 3 pt shooter.  about best that can be said of his stats exclusive of last year are that his attempts (ft & 3s) were so sparse that they also provide little evidence one way or the other.

[wetwillie]

there is little in his hs or college career before last year to suggest he is a .400 3 pt shooter.  about best that can be said of his stats exclusive of last year are that his attempts (ft & 3s) were so sparse that they also provide little evidence one way or the other.

[kso_FAN]

there is little in his hs or college career before last year to suggest he is a .400 3 pt shooter.  about best that can be said of his stats exclusive of last year are that his attempts (ft & 3s) were so sparse that they also provide little evidence one way or the other.

Yeah, last year was strange for Shane. I think he could probably be a 30-35% shooter, but that's probably his ceiling.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/kansas-state/shane-southwell

[420seriouscat69]

Has everyone given up on Shane?  I'm a Shane homer so this hurts.  I want to blame it on oscar but I don't know how.

Shane doesn't have the swagger he had last year. That's on him to get up for it and take over. This teams leadership has been crickets since Pullen. He should embrace this time instead of moping around.

[Cartierfor3]

Shane needs to grow about 5 inches if we're going to turn this season around

[kslim]

honestly it may be premature to say this but the guys on last years team look like they have 2004 ksu football syndrome

[chum1]

Thus far, his ppg are up 1.5 and rpg are up by 2 from last year.  (Despite no Angel!) What is it you guys expecting from him?

[sys]

Thus far, his ppg are up 1.5 and rpg are up by 2 from last year.  (Despite no Angel!) What is it you guys expecting from him?

zeal.

[The Whale]

Shane is really a win / win for oscar.

Shane plays well and it's because oscar is a great coach.

Shane plays like crap and tucks blame it on Frank's shitty recruiting.

[wetwillie]

Thus far, his ppg are up 1.5 and rpg are up by 2 from last year.  (Despite no Angel!) What is it you guys expecting from him?

More production for the three additional mpg I think?  It appears ft makes too.