K-State backs out of another scheduling agreement

[MadCat]

Jacksonville State Gamecocks

The Gamecocks are still looking for a guarantee game in 2011 to fill the void created by Kansas State’s pulling out of an agreement to play.

With Oregon and Miami on the schedule, this was not the game I was expecting to see pulled.

[CNS]

Jacksonville State Gamecocks

The Gamecocks are still looking for a guarantee game in 2011 to fill the void created by Kansas State’s pulling out of an agreement to play.

With Oregon and Miami on the schedule, this was not the game I was expecting to see pulled.

If we are going to ensure we don't make another bowl in the next 3-5 yrs, this is the sort of sched retooling that HAS to happen.

[kcchiefdav]

Jacksonville State Gamecocks

The Gamecocks are still looking for a guarantee game in 2011 to fill the void created by Kansas State’s pulling out of an agreement to play.

With Oregon and Miami on the schedule, this was not the game I was expecting to see pulled.

If we are going to ensure we don't make another bowl in the next 3-5 yrs, this is the sort of sched retooling that HAS to happen.

Maybe a crappier team came at us with an offer to take less money to come play us.

[Pittcat]

Good call IMO.  All should fear Jacksonville State.

[The42Yardstick]

They were a top 25 team in 1-aa last year

[mcmwcat]

If we are going to ensure we don't make another bowl in the next 3-5 yrs, this is the sort of sched retooling that HAS to happen.

what's the big deal about making a bowl?  apparently going to bowls from 1993-2003 and winning a conference championship didn't really help recruiting.  good recruiting coaches help recruiting.  not independence bowls and not texas bowls.

and i'd much rather play oregon and miami in the regular season than play mississippi st in a meaningless game.

the only excuse i accept for crap non con schedules is the preparation angle.

[Dr Rick Daris]

If we are going to ensure we don't make another bowl in the next 3-5 yrs, this is the sort of sched retooling that HAS to happen.

what's the big deal about making a bowl.  apparently going to bowls from 1993-2003 and winning a conference championship didn't really help recruiting.  good recruiting coaches help recruiting.  not independence bowls and not texas bowls.

and i'd much rather play oregon and miami in the regular season than play mississippi st in a meaningless game.

the only reason i accept excuses for shiite non con schedules is the preparation angle.

going to bowls gives you a whole extra month of practices, which i hear is pretty important in developing football players. 

[CNS]

If we are going to ensure we don't make another bowl in the next 3-5 yrs, this is the sort of sched retooling that HAS to happen.

what's the big deal about making a bowl?  apparently going to bowls from 1993-2003 and winning a conference championship didn't really help recruiting.  good recruiting coaches help recruiting.  not independence bowls and not texas bowls.

and i'd much rather play oregon and miami in the regular season than play mississippi st in a meaningless game.

the only excuse i accept for crap non con schedules is the preparation angle.

Is italics what I need to start using for sarcasm?  Honestly, I am not sure, so haven't started that practice.

[KITNfury]

If we are going to ensure we don't make another bowl in the next 3-5 yrs, this is the sort of sched retooling that HAS to happen.

what's the big deal about making a bowl?  apparently going to bowls from 1993-2003 and winning a conference championship didn't really help recruiting.  good recruiting coaches help recruiting.  not independence bowls and not texas bowls.

and i'd much rather play oregon and miami in the regular season than play mississippi st in a meaningless game.

the only excuse i accept for crap non con schedules is the preparation angle.

I almost agree with this except that I would say "what's the big deal about making a crap bowl?". "Big" bowl games are fun. Feels like you're actually playing for something, even if you're really not. Plus, we need money for a practice facility.

[mcmwcat]

If we are going to ensure we don't make another bowl in the next 3-5 yrs, this is the sort of sched retooling that HAS to happen.

what's the big deal about making a bowl.  apparently going to bowls from 1993-2003 and winning a conference championship didn't really help recruiting.  good recruiting coaches help recruiting.  not independence bowls and not texas bowls.

and i'd much rather play oregon and miami in the regular season than play mississippi st in a meaningless game.

the only reason i accept excuses for shiite non con schedules is the preparation angle.

going to bowls gives you a whole extra month of practices, which i hear is pretty important in developing football players. 

coach em up 

[Pett]

Jacksonville State Gamecocks

The Gamecocks are still looking for a guarantee game in 2011 to fill the void created by Kansas State’s pulling out of an agreement to play.

With Oregon and Miami on the schedule, this was not the game I was expecting to see pulled.

Snyd's has officially lost it. He's probably going to schedule Florida now or something....

[Winters]

They pushed FSU to the limit last year 

[MeatSauce]

This was most likely done so we can schedule KU as an OOC cupcake in '11.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Maybe Currie told Snyder that we don't have enough money to pay them whatever it was that they wanted for the guaranteed W. We'll probably replace them with a home and home with a Sunbelt Conference foe.

[pissclams]

If we are going to ensure we don't make another bowl in the next 3-5 yrs, this is the sort of sched retooling that HAS to happen.

what's the big deal about making a bowl.  apparently going to bowls from 1993-2003 and winning a conference championship didn't really help recruiting.  good recruiting coaches help recruiting.  not independence bowls and not texas bowls.

and i'd much rather play oregon and miami in the regular season than play mississippi st in a meaningless game.

the only reason i accept excuses for shiite non con schedules is the preparation angle.

going to bowls gives you a whole extra month of practices, which i hear is pretty important in developing football players. 

chum1 is going to boom roast that statement when he sees it.

[mcmwcat]

what gets KSU more money?  honoring the contracts with Miami and Oregon or dropping those 2 games and playing in the Independence Bowl?

[Rage Against the McKee]

what gets KSU more money?  honoring the contracts with Miami and Oregon or dropping those 2 games and playing in the Independence Bowl?

A lot of teams that go to the Independence Bowl make less than the travel expense of getting to the bowl, so we would probably make more money just keeping Miami and Oregon on the schedule. I would support buying out of one of these games, but not both.

[Pete]

A lot of dumbasses in this thread.

I will fist fight anyone who thinks that scheduling tough in the non-con has any value at all.   Scheduling a soft non-con ensures bowl games, and consistent bowl games help recruiting and player development more than losing "big" non-con games and not going to bowls.

[Rage Against the McKee]

A lot of dumbasses in this thread.

I will fist fight anyone who thinks that scheduling tough in the non-con has any value at all.   Scheduling a soft non-con ensures bowl games, and consistent bowl games help recruiting and player development more than losing "big" non-con games and not going to bowls.

You can schedule one good noncon opponent and even if you lose, you only have to go 3-5 in conference to get to a bowl game. This is assuming you don't lose to some crappy team like LA-LA.

[mcmwcat]

meh.  would say good recruiting coaches mean more for recruiting than bowl games as is evident by the joke that become ksu football from 2004 - present.  

player development    seen a lot of teams play like ass after 3 weeks of player development and preparing for a meaningless game.  maybe better working on individual drills and weight lifting after 4 months of practicing and playing.

what's a little silly is that the schedule last year was a joke and we still couldn't get to a bowl.

[mcmwcat]

also bowl games are for gheys

[Rage Against the McKee]

meh.  would say good recruiting coaches mean more for recruiting than bowl games as is evident by the joke that become ksu football from 2004 - present.  

player development    seen a lot of teams play like ass after 3 weeks of player development and preparing for a meaningless game.  maybe better working on individual drills and weight lifting after 4 months of practicing and playing.

what's a little silly is that the schedule last year was a joke and we still couldn't get to a bowl.

That was only because the schedule was so much of a joke that one of our wins didn't count.

[Dugout DickStone]

When we are making our pitch to the Pac 10, I'd rather be coming off a Pinstripe Bowl season than a no bowl season.

[Rage Against the McKee]

When we are making our pitch to the Pac 10, I'd rather be coming off a Pinstripe Bowl season than a no bowl season.

We'll get the same response either way. It will be "No."

[Fedor]

player development    seen a lot of teams play like ass after 3 weeks of player development and preparing for a meaningless game.  maybe better working on individual drills and weight lifting after 4 months of practicing and playing.

what's a little silly is that the schedule last year was a joke and we still couldn't get to a bowl.

The player development that you heat about is the underclassmen.  Not the upperclassmen who are playing like ass because they wanted to go to the Fiesta Bowl and play for a national championship and instead are playing in the shitty Alamo Bowl.