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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #325 on: November 22, 2017, 02:38:52 PM »
it’s really odd that people are having a hard time w dlew12’s point
I made the snyder-weber comparison and it’s the same thing

our program is stagnant and certainly isn’t growing in any positive way, that gets boring


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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #326 on: November 22, 2017, 02:52:15 PM »
What would you define as growing in a positive way
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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #327 on: November 22, 2017, 03:00:30 PM »
it’s really odd that people are having a hard time w dlew12’s point
I made the snyder-weber comparison and it’s the same thing

our program is stagnant and certainly isn’t growing in any positive way, that gets boring

Maybe the football cats need to become the most hated team in the country too

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #328 on: November 22, 2017, 03:28:04 PM »
it’s really odd that people are having a hard time w dlew12’s point
I made the snyder-weber comparison and it’s the same thing

our program is stagnant and certainly isn’t growing in any positive way, that gets boring
I get it now. And I agree oscar and Snyder are pretty similar in that respect but I think Snyder's baseline is a bit higher.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #329 on: November 22, 2017, 03:41:37 PM »
it’s really odd that people are having a hard time w dlew12’s point
I made the snyder-weber comparison and it’s the same thing

our program is stagnant and certainly isn’t growing in any positive way, that gets boring
I get it now. And I agree oscar and Snyder are pretty similar in that respect but I think Snyder's baseline is a bit higher.

What big 12 bowl is the play-in or less equivalent?
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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #330 on: November 22, 2017, 03:58:05 PM »
it’s really odd that people are having a hard time w dlew12’s point
I made the snyder-weber comparison and it’s the same thing

our program is stagnant and certainly isn’t growing in any positive way, that gets boring
I get it now. And I agree oscar and Snyder are pretty similar in that respect but I think Snyder's baseline is a bit higher.

What big 12 bowl is the play-in or less equivalent?
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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #331 on: November 22, 2017, 04:07:00 PM »
60% of D1 football teams make bowl games.
20% of D1 basketball teams make the NCAA tournament.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #332 on: November 22, 2017, 04:07:59 PM »
60% of D1 football teams make bowl games.
20% of D1 basketball teams make the NCAA tournament.
There's triple the amount of D1 bball teams tho

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #333 on: November 22, 2017, 06:58:12 PM »
it’s really odd that people are having a hard time w dlew12’s point
I made the snyder-weber comparison and it’s the same thing

our program is stagnant and certainly isn’t growing in any positive way, that gets boring

I don't agree with that. The football program has high expectations that the basketball program hasn't had. You can't have lofty expectations and be stagnant at the same time.

We'll finish this season with 6-8 wins this year and there will absolutely be talk of 10 wins and contention for the conference title next year, and there should be.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #334 on: November 22, 2017, 07:44:08 PM »
I will not be sucked into the 10 win hype for 2018.
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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #335 on: November 22, 2017, 08:17:16 PM »
Sure you won't. All the sunshine pumpers and a few early wins will have you riding along with the rest of us. :)

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #336 on: November 22, 2017, 09:34:53 PM »
60% of D1 football teams make bowl games.
20% of D1 basketball teams make the NCAA tournament.
There's triple the amount of D1 bball teams tho
Do you know how percentages work?

We'll finish this season with 6-8 wins this year and there will absolutely be talk of 10 wins and contention for the conference title next year, and there should be.
those same expectations existed this year


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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #337 on: November 22, 2017, 09:43:22 PM »
What would you define as growing in a positive way

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« Reply #338 on: November 23, 2017, 07:11:22 AM »
60% of D1 football teams make bowl games.
20% of D1 basketball teams make the NCAA tournament.
There's triple the amount of D1 bball teams tho
Do you know how percentages work?

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #339 on: November 23, 2017, 08:18:08 AM »
it’s really odd that people are having a hard time w dlew12’s point
I made the snyder-weber comparison and it’s the same thing

our program is stagnant and certainly isn’t growing in any positive way, that gets boring

I don't agree with that. The football program has high expectations that the basketball program hasn't had. You can't have lofty expectations and be stagnant at the same time.

We'll finish this season with 6-8 wins this year and there will absolutely be talk of 10 wins and contention for the conference title next year, and there should be.

This is why i think Bill returns....that and I'm sure he thinks if he retires (and Sean isn't the pick) he will die, soon.  And i'd be totally ok with it.  Really wish he'd upgrade coordinators but of course that won't happen.  If he wouldn't insert Levitt as at least co-DC ("we didn't have a coordinator position available") then he's certainly not going to make a move at OC or DC.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #340 on: November 23, 2017, 08:28:18 AM »
60% of D1 football teams make bowl games.
20% of D1 basketball teams make the NCAA tournament.
There's triple the amount of D1 bball teams tho
Do you know how percentages work?

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Wacky gets to a fair point, though. The autobid conferences definitely skew the numbers with so many bball teams that have no way of making the tournament without winning their conference tournament. I’d like to see the relative figures from just the schools that play both D1 FB and BB.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #341 on: November 23, 2017, 08:53:50 AM »
Just look at the Big 12.  Here's the last 5 seasons.

# of tournament teams = 6, 7, 7, 7, 5 = 6.4 avg
# of bowl team = 6, 7, 7, 6, 9 = 7.0 avg

So the last B12 bowl team is roughly equivalent to the tourney play in game.

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« Reply #342 on: November 23, 2017, 10:58:02 AM »
Bowl spots are guaranteed, tournament spots are not. Also, Big 12 basketball has been good lately while Big 12 football has been dogshit.

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Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #343 on: November 23, 2017, 11:40:47 AM »
Just look at the Big 12.  Here's the last 5 seasons.

# of tournament teams = 6, 7, 7, 7, 5 = 6.4 avg
# of bowl team = 6, 7, 7, 6, 9 = 7.0 avg

So the last B12 bowl team is roughly equivalent to the tourney play in game.

Good comparison. I do think the minimum standard for KSU sports should be making the NCAA tournament/ bowl game, competing for a conference championship every few years, and making a top tier bowl/deep tournament run every few years. By those standards Bill 2.0 is clearly more successful than oscar, but not by a very wide margin.

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #344 on: December 01, 2017, 10:16:41 AM »
Kietzman saying Fitz is saying it was Currie that talked because coaches are calling Snyder asking what it's like to work with Currie and Bill is telling all of them not to do it and Currie is horrible.

https://twitter.com/LifeofFitz/status/936619066319568896

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Re: Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean
« Reply #345 on: December 01, 2017, 10:26:23 AM »
Kietzman saying Fitz is saying it was Currie that talked because coaches are calling Snyder asking what it's like to work with Currie and Bill is telling all of them not to do it and Currie is horrible.

https://twitter.com/LifeofFitz/status/936619066319568896

Uh, I don't understand how that confirms their theory, what does one have to do with the other?

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« Reply #346 on: December 01, 2017, 10:29:06 AM »
I think the logic is that McMurphy can't be that "sourced" in UT and KSU unless it's Currie. That's how I read Fitz's tweets.

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« Reply #347 on: December 01, 2017, 10:35:06 AM »
I think the logic is that McMurphy can't be that "sourced" in UT and KSU unless it's Currie. That's how I read Fitz's tweets.

That's something I guess.

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« Reply #348 on: December 01, 2017, 11:54:30 AM »
With all this Tennessee fun, i have forgotten. Why did Currie decide to leak the Snyder story to McMurphy when he did?
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« Reply #349 on: December 01, 2017, 12:37:13 PM »
With all this Tennessee fun, i have forgotten. Why did Currie decide to leak the Snyder story to McMurphy when he did?

Here's the theory as I understand it: coaches were calling Snyder to ask what working with Currie was like. As you can imagine, Snyder wasn't saying nice things, so Currie leaked the Snyder/Leavitt story to make Snyder seem crazy/difficult to work with himself.