Use this to support whatever your position is on Sean

[Joker]

I find it completely odd that he's had nothing to say about being slighted so publicly by Snyder.

I had the same thought.  He's made reference to his initial interview with Bill several times since this story broke.

[Joker]

I assume it's not typical to offer one of the highest paid P5 coordinators a lower tier job for (what I can only imagine to be) less money, so I assume something else was going on here. Something tells me Venables didn't get the same call...

Significantly less money compared to what Cox was making.

Oregon pays Leavitt a salary of $1.15 million, more than double what K-State paid Cox.

http://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article185615598.html

[DQ12]

Yeah, I don't even know what this means. (people saying the program is boring) Its not much different than 11/12, it just wasn't boring then because we won a lot. I suppose people want HUNH and stuff like that.

I do not care about HUNH, but I will concede that winning more would make the program less boring to me.  What I mean by boring is that I feel like I've been watching the same season for the last three years: 

Mediocre defense.  Quarterback injuries.  Frustrating play calling.  Irrelevant in the conference championship picture.

Obviously there have been a few outlier games (Texas bowl, OSU game come to mind), but on the macro level, it's the same old crap.  Maybe it's due to my preseason expectations, but by week 5 this year, I was largely uninterested in our season.  I'm not advocating that we fire Bill, I'm just pointing out that while we've been "fine" to "pretty good" during the last 5 years, we've finished no better than third in the conference.  I can stomach 6 win seasons like 2015 if this year went like it was supposed to. Instead, we're decidedly average, again.

Maybe I'm just becoming less interested in CFB?

[kslim]

Yeah, I don't even know what this means. (people saying the program is boring) Its not much different than 11/12, it just wasn't boring then because we won a lot. I suppose people want HUNH and stuff like that.

I do not care about HUNH, but I will concede that winning more would make the program less boring to me.  What I mean by boring is that I feel like I've been watching the same season for the last three years: 

Mediocre defense.  Quarterback injuries.  Frustrating play calling.  Irrelevant in the conference championship picture.

Obviously there have been a few outlier games (Texas bowl, OSU game come to mind), but on the macro level, it's the same old crap.  Maybe it's due to my preseason expectations, but by week 5 this year, I was largely uninterested in our season.  I'm not advocating that we fire Bill, I'm just pointing out that while we've been "fine" to "pretty good" during the last 5 years, we've finished no better than third.  I can stomach 6 win seasons like 2015 if this year went like it was supposed to.

Maybe I'm just becoming less interested in CFB?

This is exactly how I feel, it’s very predictable to the point of hard to watch sometimes. Cfb is great no matter how good we are. As the saying goes water will find its level. And waiting for the inevitable makes it tough

[pissclams]

is the football program all that different than the basketball program?  no, it’s not.

[everyone shut up]

If you found the vandy, tcu, and ku games anything other than boring, then we were watching different games.

[michigancat]

If you found the vandy, tcu, and ku games anything other than boring, then we were watching different games.

to be fair, I didn't watch the Vandy and KU games.

is the football program all that different than the basketball program?  no, it’s not.

pretty accurate, Bill just has way more built up goodwill

[Rage Against the McKee]

Bill is also retiring soon. These last few seasons would be much more frustrating if Bill were 10 years younger.

[EMAWzifried]

As the great, late sportswriter Red Ruffinsore once wrote, "That acorn found too much shade under that sturdy old oak. Time to branch out."

[star seed 7]

beating osu and losing to vandy was super predictable, i agree

[scottwildcat]

beating osu and losing to vandy was super predictable, i agree

Are you being sarcastic, because Snyder 2.0 never beats ranked teams unless he has a Heisman finalist as his QB, has never won in Stillwater, that win was the biggest point spread upset under Bill and in he has traditionally beaten crap teams which Vanderbilt is. So if by super predictable you mean not predictable in any way at all then you’re correct

[star seed 7]

Scott, you've changed my mind

[muqluk]

... and not for Saban because he burns through assistants and they hate him.

Sounds quite a bit like another HC Ive heard of on occasion.

[Lucas Scoopsalot]

I can agree with anyone that says up until the OSU game, this season has been boring.

[michigancat]

I can agree with anyone that says up until the OSU game, this season has been boring.

yeah that tech game was a real snoozefest

[SkinnyBenny]

2OT loss to Texas as well

[kso_FAN]

Oklahoma game: Boring.

[meow meow]

man, y'all doing luke dirty

[wetwillie]

OT at Texas was the most boring game I've ever watched

[ksuchris2000]

Yeah. 7-5 / 6-6 is so exciting.

[#LIFE]

http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2017-11-21/k-state-officials-exchanged-emails-story-jim-leavitt-s-coaching

[Shooter Jones]

http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2017-11-21/k-state-officials-exchanged-emails-story-jim-leavitt-s-coaching

Lol, I miss ADJC and Veatch.

The Mustang is boring AF.

[chum1]

That was really poorly written. Would have been much easier to just read the emails.

[Tobias]

http://cjonline.com/sports/catzone/2017-11-21/k-state-officials-exchanged-emails-story-jim-leavitt-s-coaching

“It would be big $ and a hassle to fly from NYC to Little Rock and back to NYC, but it certainly would make for excellent message board fodder and succession theatre,” Currie said in an email to Veatch.

[Joker]

Excellent photo montage.