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Re: Smoke your cigars and enjoy the band while you can....
« Reply #30375 on: February 26, 2019, 12:02:06 PM »
What if we did this with the SEC instead?  :dunno:

I like the PAC better. We would win that game more often, and the schools are more fun to associate ourselves with.

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« Reply #30376 on: February 26, 2019, 12:07:09 PM »
You're not adding an extra loss. You're losing a guaranteed in-conference loss and gaining a possible out-of-conference loss. On the whole, your conference will have fewer losses.
Also fewer wins.  And playing the Big 12's second best team is usually an easier task than playing the Pac 12's best team. 

I think the game will serve as an elimination game and I don't think it makes sense to add an extra, tougher hurdle for the Big 12 to pass in order to get to the playoff.  Plus, without a championship game, the Big 12 returns to the problem of crowning a "champion" in a ten team round robin.  The whole thing seems like an enormo pain in the ass with no real benefit.

Fewer wins is okay in terms of playoff chances. It's just the late season loss that you want to avoid.

I don't think we have enough information to guess whether this would help or hurt the B12's chances of getting a team into the playoffs. The number of scenarios that could happen is so huge.

I don't like any of the B12's options for determining conference champion, so I don't feel like we'd be losing anything there.

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« Reply #30377 on: February 26, 2019, 12:09:20 PM »
The biggest downside about the championship game to me is thinking about how absolutely sorry the PAC 12 championship is. Like, why the eff would we want to have anything to do with that garbage?

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« Reply #30378 on: February 26, 2019, 12:27:43 PM »
I've always said it's best to latch onto the sinkiest ship.

Yea I feel like we are in much better shape than they are.  I would think any kind of alliance would benefit them much more.
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« Reply #30379 on: February 26, 2019, 01:11:39 PM »
The biggest downside about the championship game to me is thinking about how absolutely sorry the PAC 12 championship is. Like, why the eff would we want to have anything to do with that garbage?

Put the Big 12 champ into that game and it becomes just ridiculously sexy. It would be what the Rose Bowl used to be.

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« Reply #30380 on: February 26, 2019, 01:40:36 PM »
I've always said it's best to latch onto the sinkiest ship.

Yea I feel like we are in much better shape than they are.  I would think any kind of alliance would benefit them much more.
Exaclty, but maybe since those giant losers are willing to sell part of their conference, maybe we'll agree to this shitty alliance for 10% equity stake in their conference.
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« Reply #30381 on: February 26, 2019, 08:58:10 PM »
As a fan, would love to see an annual Pac12 vs Big 12 champion off.

But yeah probably not great for the conference overall.

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« Reply #30382 on: February 26, 2019, 09:05:14 PM »
It could be better for the Big 12. We just don't know!

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« Reply #30383 on: February 26, 2019, 09:37:37 PM »
guys this is more about wefald being a giant weirdo

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« Reply #30384 on: February 26, 2019, 09:58:30 PM »
Geez. Wefald. What a weirdo.

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« Reply #30385 on: February 26, 2019, 10:46:17 PM »
Geez. Wefald. What a weirdo.
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« Reply #30386 on: February 27, 2019, 08:55:17 AM »
It could be better for the Big 12. We just don't know!

It absolutely would be better for the Big 12. Playing the Big 10 champ would be better than the Pac 12 champ, but I really don't want any sort of scheduling alliance with them. There is way too much garbage in that conference.

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« Reply #30387 on: February 27, 2019, 09:54:44 AM »
So, what are the possibilities here?

1. Wefald just has too much free time on his hands and is going rogue and also maybe a little insane.

2. Gee and possibly other presidents are in favor of something like this, Bowlsby and possibly other presidents are against, so Gee recruits Wefald to talk about it publicly in order to move people in favor.

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« Reply #30388 on: February 27, 2019, 11:38:31 AM »
I really hope it is 2. It's weird to me that WVU would be pushing for an alliance with a west coast conference, though.

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« Reply #30389 on: February 27, 2019, 12:08:18 PM »
Their football coach did leave for a G5 school

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« Reply #30390 on: March 01, 2019, 10:44:13 AM »
the pxiibxiiad hot potato possibilities are endless it would be like when bubba is explaining to forrest all of the shrimp options but with potatoes

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« Reply #30391 on: March 01, 2019, 11:30:59 AM »
the pxiibxiiad hot potato possibilities are endless it would be like when bubba is explaining to forrest all of the shrimp options but with potatoes

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« Reply #30392 on: March 01, 2019, 11:41:42 AM »
we (big 12) needs to work from a position of strength. we need to demand the rights to have bill walton call all big 12 basketball games as part of our negotiation with the "Conference of Champions".

that's where this begins and ends for me.

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« Reply #30393 on: March 01, 2019, 12:10:44 PM »
Have to admit, eating a lit candle is pretty awesome.
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« Reply #30394 on: March 01, 2019, 01:18:36 PM »
we (big 12) needs to work from a position of strength. we need to demand the rights to have bill walton call all big 12 basketball games as part of our negotiation with the "Conference of Champions".

that's where this begins and ends for me.

I think the current proposal easily makes us the #1 conference in America and would solidify the PAC as #2. It's a great deal for both parties.

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« Reply #30395 on: March 01, 2019, 01:24:41 PM »
Have to admit, eating a lit candle is pretty awesome.

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« Reply #30396 on: March 02, 2019, 09:55:53 AM »
I think the current proposal easily makes us the #1 conference in America and would solidify the PAC as #2. It's a great deal for both parties.

The team that has been messing up the Big12 for the past decade has been easily eliminated from both playoff appearances. Sure this idea would help in some ways, but suggesting that this "solidifies" the b12 as #1 is crazy enough, but saying the P12 will be #2 is straight bonkers. THE b12 won't even be #2.

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« Reply #30397 on: March 02, 2019, 01:47:05 PM »
I think the current proposal easily makes us the #1 conference in America and would solidify the PAC as #2. It's a great deal for both parties.

The team that has been messing up the Big12 for the past decade has been easily eliminated from both playoff appearances. Sure this idea would help in some ways, but suggesting that this "solidifies" the b12 as #1 is crazy enough, but saying the P12 will be #2 is straight bonkers. THE b12 won't even be #2.

We would have the biggest non-playoff game in college football every year. More often than not, the winner would make the playoffs while the loser goes to a bowl game. Pretty much everyone who watches the playoffs would watch that game. It would be far more entertaining than seeing if Ohio State is going to crap the bed against Northwestern and then watching them get left out, anyway.

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« Reply #30398 on: March 06, 2019, 12:03:31 PM »
Why associate with the PAC in this way? They need us more than we need them. We need Walton, plus some other concessions for this to make any sense.

Also, I'm in favor of the thing that gets win the dang day to bowl games, I don't think this proposal helps. I don't like to miss my roadtrips to Memphis and Tempe. We're going to be so barely above average. Get pumped. I prefer to beat Arizona State during college bowl season. Win the dang day CK against Herm under the lights of the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl, if that's even a thing anymore, would be grand.

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« Reply #30399 on: March 12, 2019, 09:22:15 AM »
Larry Scott is such an absurdly corrupt villain he may just kick off another round by himself.

https://www.oregonlive.com/sports/2019/03/canzano-the-view-from-the-pac-12-conferences-imperial-palace-lacks-visibility.html