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TITLETOWN - A Decade Long Celebration Of The Greatest Achievement In College Athletics History => Kansas State Football => Topic started by: Steffy08 on January 26, 2018, 10:40:52 PM
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Leavitt or Venables?
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Sean or Tate?
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Leavitt or Venables?
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Only way we MIGHT get Venables or Leavitt is if we attach a HCIW title and Bill will never agree to that because that would eliminate Sean. Another interesting name is bret bielema im not sure how I would feel about that. Ill bet on Blake Seiler being promoted.
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it'll be blake seiller
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Leavitt or Venables?
Both. Co-DCs :excited:
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What former cat player will be hired to coach DBs? The new DC is already on staff.
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Bob Stoops.
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Bob Stoops.
Fits the house building scenario.
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warm up hot rough ridin' stove, boys...
it'll be seiler
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Interesting. Thank you Hayes for your services... I really hated that style of defense, but it was effective (mostly) and I appreciate what Hayes brought to the table in experience and truthfully some good DBs over the years.
I agree with the poster above that the only way someone like BV, Leavitt or Stoops come on board is with a HCIW title and it seems like it is Sean or nothing for Bill. So, that's probably not an option. I agree that Seiler is probably in line to be the next DC and good for him! He seems like a very engaged coach and (like Coleman) has been a stud on the recruiting trail. A few other names:
Very Long Shots and would only come as a DC
- Raheem Morris: He was KSU's DC / DB coach under Ron Prince and has been an NFL head coach and current Falcons WR coach. This probably would be a demotion in some ways, but may also re-start his career in some ways.
- Bret Bielema: He is making millions doing nothing, so I doubt he comes .
- Mike Ekler: He has coached LB's all over the place and could probably coach DBs(?) He is currently the DC at North Texas.
- Newman... his playing days may be coming to an end. If I were him I enjoy the fruits of an awesome NFL career, but maybe all he wants to do is coach football?
Another random name:
- Joe Gordon: After being a director of recruiting for KSU he has coached at some lower level schools and is currently a HS head coach in Arlington.
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Eckler is actually the LBs coach at North Carolina, hopefully he's the guy.
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What former cat player will be hired to coach DBs? The new DC is already on staff.
Fabris?
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Eckler is actually the LBs coach at North Carolina, hopefully he's the guy.
I didn't know that, thanks for the update. Eckler has been everywhere: UNC, North Texas, USC, Indiana, UNL, LSU and OU. Lots of experience, but none as a DB coach. I don't know how important that is.
If Seiler is the new DC (which I am fine with) I hope that Joe Gordon gets a serious look. I think he could bring a good recruiting footprint (Texas ties) and he has experience as a DB coach. He also had wild amounts of sideline energy which I always appreciated.
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I seem to recall Joe Gordon's previous departure being a little acrimonious, he had a beef about something. Am I making this up?
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Bret Bielema?
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I seem to recall Joe Gordon's previous departure being a little acrimonious, he had a beef about something. Am I making this up?
Official statement had something to do with improper texting or calling recruits or some crap like that if I recall. Could be wrong though.
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Gotta at least give a call to Newman.
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Gotta at least give a call to Newman.
NFL player directly to college DC is a transition that will most likely fail.
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Gotta at least give a call to Newman.
NFL player directly to college DC is a transition that will most likely fail.
Wouldn’t be D-Coordinator. Would be DB coach
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Gotta at least give a call to Newman.
NFL player directly to college DC is a transition that will most likely fail.
Wouldn’t be D-Coordinator. Would be DB coach
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I think he could step in as co-coordinator.
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/30/sports/football/terence-newman-minnesota-vikings-cornerback.html
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I seem to recall Joe Gordon's previous departure being a little acrimonious, he had a beef about something. Am I making this up?
Official statement had something to do with improper texting or calling recruits or some crap like that if I recall. Could be wrong though.
I have no clue, but in goEMAW's first post http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=21719.0 (http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=21719.0) of Gordon leaving there didn't seem to be any indication of wrong doing nor was there any in the Wichita Eagle report http://www.kansas.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/article1095654.html (http://www.kansas.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/article1095654.html)
Apparently it wasn't something super serious as he has landed jobs at other colleges / high schools (whom I assume all do background checks).
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Gotta at least give a call to Newman.
NFL player directly to college DC is a transition that will most likely fail.
Wouldn’t be D-Coordinator. Would be DB coach
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Jim Leonhart
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Pretty sure it was locketts recruitment. Gordon is his godfather or something.
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Pretty sure it was locketts recruitment. Gordon is his godfather or something.
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Hmmm, that's an odd situation, thanks for posting. I wonder too much of that was Currie's influence as well. Oh well, we will see what happens.
To the above poster, Jim Leonhard is a good example of NFL player to DC (only one year in between as a position coach). He also has a similar background to Newman... he his from Wisconsin, played at Wisconsin, had a significant NFL career and then returned to coach at Wisconsin. We'd be blessed if Newman did the same thing! After 15 years in the NFL I would imagine that he knows how to coach DBs.
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Eckler is actually the LBs coach at North Carolina, hopefully he's the guy.
Only if he brings his stuffed piranha Carl with him to chill with Phil in the locker room.
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Newman as DB coach would be great. Being in the league as long as he has been and continuing to be effective as his physical skills have started to deteriorate makes me think he could coach the position very well.
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I bet multimillionaire t new is dying to work 20 hours a day for 200k a year
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I bet multimillionaire t new is dying to work 20 hours a day for 200k a year
Depends on how bored he gets. :dunno:
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Pretty sure it was locketts recruitment. Gordon is his godfather or something.
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Nope, that was Coleman
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http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=21719.msg566560#msg566560
It was Smith, JG was the recruiting coordinator.
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my old NDSU buddy Gene Taylor needs to stay away from our Head Coach Chris Klieman... itd be a step down in my opinion but the 2 are friends and have succeeded together and Klieman knows how to D Coord on your field!!
held Lockett and Waters to 21 points.. (NDSU 24-21!)
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my old NDSU buddy Gene Taylor needs to stay away from our Head Coach Chris Klieman... itd be a step down in my opinion but the 2 are friends and have succeeded together and Klieman knows how to D Coord on your field!!
held Lockett and Waters to 21 points.. (NDSU 24-21!)
The Mustang ain't picking our DC. :dubious:
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Mustang? lol Mean Gene is the nickname punk!!
Synder can screw up 1 more thing before he sails off into the sunset I guess. have at it manhatten
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It's tay-tay
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his daughters nickname is tay tay
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his daughters nickname is tay tay
thanks perv
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NDSU beating us 4 1/2 years ago is still a bigger game to them than any one of their championships.
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I think Joe-Bob would make a ton of sense. I'd be down with that.
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NDSU beating us 4 1/2 years ago is still a bigger game to them than any one of their championships.
Hopefully they create a mural of that game in their football facility a la Baylor.
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I thought he got run out of town for reasons similar to Brent and Lon
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I seriously doubt the mustang has a daughter named Taylor
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I seriously doubt the mustang has a daughter named Taylor
Her name is Casey. Maybe he meant cay tay... or he doesn't know crap about ndsu or the Mustang.
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One cannot know the Mustang without first knowing his name: the Mustang.
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Rivals and Scout is confirmed that Seiler is the new DC. Good for him! He, like Coleman, worked his way up the ranks and cut his teeth on the recruiting trail. I glad for both of them.
I also hope that the new DB coach is also a stud recruiter. Seiler and Coleman seemed like two of our best recruiters, moving them to coordinators will surely reduce their time on the recruiting trail.
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Mustang? lol Mean Gene is the nickname punk!!
Synder can screw up 1 more thing before he sails off into the sunset I guess. have at it manhatten
It’s spelled ‘Manhattan’, what do they teach you inbreds in ND anyways?
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So much for chuck 3rd and Long
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So much for chuck 3rd and Long
lol, yeah that was solid rumor that got the blood boiling... at point Chuck Long was the new OC and Sean Snyder was the new DC. Instead, Snyder promotes two of his top young(er) assistants and hires Hickson, Hanson and a TBD DB coach. Funny how the narrative is much different, especially if the new DB coach turns out to be a young(er) former KSU player.
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AS FIRST REPORTED BY steve dave!
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AS FIRST REPORTED BY steve dave!
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Smartest man in God Bless America.
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A young group of coordinators at K-State under Snyder. Been awhile, boys.
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Seiler is a mechanical engineering grad, very intelligent guy. Doesn't hurt having our most energetic recruits as coordinators either
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you cant argue with seilers jawline, that thing screams success
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AS FIRST REPORTED BY steve dave!
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@scottawildcat disagrees
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AS FIRST REPORTED BY steve dave!
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@scottawildcat disagrees
he needs to check his stats
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Seiler was my old lifting partner. Very quiet guy back then. Very analytical. Deliberate. Engineery.
Total beefcake, obviously.
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When was the last time we had this young of a staff? mid to late 90's?
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I mean Andre is 46 and Del Miller is 67
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When was the last time we had this young of a staff? mid to late 90's?
In Snyder’s return year (2009) Dimel was 47 and Vic Koenning was 49... not a huge age difference.
In Prince’s first year (2006) Morris was 30 and Franklin was 32
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When was the last time we had this young of a staff? mid to late 90's?
In Snyder’s return year (2009) Dimel was 47 and Vic Koenning was 49... not a huge age difference.
In Prince’s first year (2006) Morris was 30 and Franklin was 32
Prince was 34esh, IIRC.
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https://twitter.com/D7_Reed/status/959183711202783234
If he's good enough for DJamer then he's good enough for me.
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Charlotte hired former Oklahoma State DC Glenn Spencer to serve in the same capacity.
Spencer joins the 49ers after Oklahoma State handed him his walking papers in mid-January. He replaces Matt Wallersted, who himself was let go by Charlotte following the 2017 season. The Cowboys ranked as S&P+'s No. 70 defense in the FBS under Spencer's watch last season. Prior to his termination, he had served as defensive coordinator in Stillwater since 2013. In a statement released regarding his new job with Charlotte, Spencer said that he's looking to build a fundamentally-sound unit. He'll have his work cut out for him early -- his new team ranked 103rd in the FBS for 2017 in terms of scoring defense.
Source: Charlotte Observer Feb 13 - 6:39 PM
Come home, Matt!
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why didn’t sean take the dc job?
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Sean isn't making his transition to HC very easy for us to stomach. :blank:
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Sean isn't making his transition to HC very easy for us to stomach. :blank:
Does he really want it? :dunno:
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gpc with the scoop
https://twitter.com/GoPowercat/status/963829145779294208
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an Art Briles assistant. Fun!
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yeah im not sure i like this move unless its for recruiting purposes. they gave up almost 550 yds a game and only had 7 total picks, not all his fault im sure but they also gave up 62, 59, 54, 43, 42, 41 against a pretty bad schedule. the big 12 might eat him alive
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Good God, that's the most poorly written article I've ever tried and failed to read.
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I'm going to give this guy a shot but body bags basically follow him around
Previously, Norwood served as assistant head coach to Art Briles at Baylor University. Both Norwood and Briles served as assistants to Mike Leach at Texas Tech in 2000. Norwood was also an assistant to Joe Paterno at Penn State from 2001 to 2007.
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Good God, that's the most poorly written article I've ever tried and failed to read.
The tweet reads like a straight Chinese to English translation
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I'm going to give this guy a shot but body bags basically follow him around
Previously, Norwood served as assistant head coach to Art Briles at Baylor University. Both Norwood and Briles served as assistants to Mike Leach at Texas Tech in 2000. Norwood was also an assistant to Joe Paterno at Penn State from 2001 to 2007.
Fantastic he was an assistant at Penn State during prime Sandusky raping era.
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i like how they included the word "likely" in the title to leave themselves an out after "combing" through their sources. pretty easy to tell they aren't used to scooping anything.
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I'm going to give this guy a shot but body bags basically follow him around
Previously, Norwood served as assistant head coach to Art Briles at Baylor University. Both Norwood and Briles served as assistants to Mike Leach at Texas Tech in 2000. Norwood was also an assistant to Joe Paterno at Penn State from 2001 to 2007.
Fantastic he was an assistant at Penn State during prime Sandusky raping era.
If Tennessee fans can get the Schiano hiring overturned, surely we can handle a DB coach
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https://twitter.com/GPCwallace/status/963836582800384000
https://twitter.com/GPCwallace/status/963836938842120192
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no one knows how to best ease this mind of mine like the DJamer
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Being popular with the fans/alumni in 2011 is not exactly what I would call an endorsement
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Tulsa was 128th in yards per pass attempt last season.
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Didn't a lot of the Sandusky raping happen while he was retired and still using the facilities?
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Didn't a lot of the Sandusky raping happen while he was retired and still using the facilities?
up until 2002 when his keys were taken away. I doubt very much that our new guy knew anything about it or the baylor stuff btw. just unlucky timing.
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The baylor sexual assault scandal wikipedia page is about 200 bullet points like this and the last name norwood did not appear once in a word search.
December 5, 2016: A group called Bears for Leadership Reform pushes for an independent investigation into the university's board of regents. They want the investigation to review conduct beginning even before the Pepper Hamilton Report was issued. Former Texas Governor Mark White said, "We’ve lost faith in Pepper Hamilton. The secrecy surrounding it does not pass the smell test."[113]
December 6, 2016: Baylor announces Matt Rhule as its new head football coach. Rhule leaves the same position at Temple.[114] On the same day, the Southern Association of Colleges and Universities Commission places Baylor on accreditation probation due to the sexual assault scandal.[115]
December 8, 2016: Former Head Football Coach Art Briles files suit against Baylor for libel, slander, and conspiracy because officials accused him of covering up at least one report of sexual assault.[116]
December 12, 2016: Baylor regents vote unanimously to reject a call for a third party to review the university's handling of the sexual assault scandal. The call was made by a group of the school's major donors.[117]
December 13, 2016: Tom Hill, a former Baylor assistant athletic director, files suit against Pepper Hamilton, accusing the law firm of negligence and defamation. He asks for US $60,000 in damages. He had previously been offered and refused a US $34,373 severance package from the school.[118] On the same day, a report released by the group Bears for Leadership Reform stated the university had already lost US $76 million due to the sexual assault scandal. It projected the total loss could top US $223 million.[119]
December 27, 2016: Bears wide receiver K. D. Cannon dedicates the team's Cactus Bowl win to Art Briles.[120]
Which means I guess he is okay until he proves he is awful at his job.
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The baylor sexual assault scandal wikipedia page is about 200 bullet points like this and the last name norwood did not appear once in a word search.
December 5, 2016: A group called Bears for Leadership Reform pushes for an independent investigation into the university's board of regents. They want the investigation to review conduct beginning even before the Pepper Hamilton Report was issued. Former Texas Governor Mark White said, "We’ve lost faith in Pepper Hamilton. The secrecy surrounding it does not pass the smell test."[113]
December 6, 2016: Baylor announces Matt Rhule as its new head football coach. Rhule leaves the same position at Temple.[114] On the same day, the Southern Association of Colleges and Universities Commission places Baylor on accreditation probation due to the sexual assault scandal.[115]
December 8, 2016: Former Head Football Coach Art Briles files suit against Baylor for libel, slander, and conspiracy because officials accused him of covering up at least one report of sexual assault.[116]
December 12, 2016: Baylor regents vote unanimously to reject a call for a third party to review the university's handling of the sexual assault scandal. The call was made by a group of the school's major donors.[117]
December 13, 2016: Tom Hill, a former Baylor assistant athletic director, files suit against Pepper Hamilton, accusing the law firm of negligence and defamation. He asks for US $60,000 in damages. He had previously been offered and refused a US $34,373 severance package from the school.[118] On the same day, a report released by the group Bears for Leadership Reform stated the university had already lost US $76 million due to the sexual assault scandal. It projected the total loss could top US $223 million.[119]
December 27, 2016: Bears wide receiver K. D. Cannon dedicates the team's Cactus Bowl win to Art Briles.[120]
Which means I guess he is okay until he proves he is awful at his job.
What transpired at Baylor was only possible because of a warped culture. Anybody associated with the football program during that time is forever tainted.
There are a million coaches out there. Why go there?
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Didn't a lot of the Sandusky raping happen while he was retired and still using the facilities?
up until 2002 when his keys were taken away. I doubt very much that our new guy knew anything about it or the baylor stuff btw. just unlucky timing.
Yeah I definitely don't implicate our guy in that, it just seemed like an odd argument
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Man, this hire sucks. In addition to the Baylor ties, he is old and hasn't really been involved with good defenses. Most recently, he was responsible for a horrible defense. :flush:
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Jesus Steffy, shut up.
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I mean it’s whatever he isn’t going to make or break us.
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I mean it’s whatever he isn’t going to make or break us.
Exactly
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I am not trying to infer that Norwood is guilty of any wrongdoing, but I feel that Ryan Wallace is a bit off on his dismissal of Norwood's past. Sandusky had access to the Penn State facilities in 2002, which is when Mike McQueary saw him abusing a child and when Sandusky's keys were taken away to the facility soon after. Norwood began his stint as the Penn State safeties coach in 2001, so there is some time overlap there. The chance Norwood saw anything or knew anything about Penn State is small, but still, some overlap exists.
However, with Baylor all of the alleged 52 rapes occurred between 2011-2014, which was completely within the timeframe Norwood was there as an assistant head coach. The culture with that program in that timeframe was very toxic and rape enabling, and while that doesn't make him guilty I personally wouldn't touch anything from that timeframe in Waco with a 10 foot pole.
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so how many people told us no before we had to land at this guy?
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so how many people told us no before we had to land at this guy?
This was our number 1 all the way.
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The crap that some of you try to find to bitch about is outstanding to watch at times.
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what's it like at other times?
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Entertaining. Like you trying to figure out what a carb is in your 30's. :love: :lol:
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he was implicated i a heroin trafficking ring until lt. frank drebin cleared him. never mind that was nordberg
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The crap that some of you try to find to bitch about is outstanding to watch at times.
Can you give me a list of things that are safe to bitch about so I don't upset anyone? Thanks.
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it’s obviously ok to bitch about bitching
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The crap that some of you try to find to bitch about is outstanding to watch at times.
Can you give me a list of things that are safe to bitch about so I don't upset anyone? Thanks.
It's best if he doesn't provide the list. It makes it easier for the rest of us to figure out your hidden agenda.
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Sensitive triggers, fellas.
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The old “I’m triggered” then when I get called out on being triggered so quickly “I’m not triggered, you guys are the ones triggered”, routine.
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Yeah man.
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I mean it’s whatever he isn’t going to make or break us.
Weird take. "He sucks but he probably doesn't suck so bad that we will tank next year."
Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
This hire sucks.
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yeah im not sure i like this move unless its for recruiting purposes. they gave up almost 550 yds a game and only had 7 total picks, not all his fault im sure but they also gave up 62, 59, 54, 43, 42, 41 against a pretty bad schedule. the big 12 might eat him alive
not sure if this qualifies as "bitching" or not but these are the facts, you give up that many points to some pretty meh teams and you have some serious scheme flaws.
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Not an exciting hire but this late in the game with a coach that is taking it year to year, what are you going to do? Oklahoma/Texas recruiting ties are a plus but everything else looks pretty unimpressive.
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I mean it’s whatever he isn’t going to make or break us.
Weird take. "He sucks but he probably doesn't suck so bad that we will tank next year."
Not exactly a ringing endorsement.
This hire sucks.
Have some faith in Blake Seiler PI’ng this guy into a serviceable secondary.
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I mean it’s whatever he isn’t going to make or break us.
Hopefully he doesn’t bend or break us either.
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https://twitter.com/GPCwallace/status/963836582800384000
https://twitter.com/GPCwallace/status/963836938842120192
Ummm, no. The Baylor crap went back to like 2012/13 didn't it? Just cause crap starts to fly in 2015 doesn't mean that's when the timeline starts.
And also, some of the Sandusky crap was after he was retired but still doing his creepy second mile stuff. And Penn State continued to allow him to use their facilities with it up until like 2008 or some crap.
I'm not saying he had any (he probably had absolutely zero knowledge since he keeps getting jobs) knowledge, but let's not ignore the fact he was at both places during the crap.
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But if he didn't know anything why wouldn't we ignore it? Both situations had extensive investigations done and he's never came up. Those are both incredibly shitty things to have your name attached to if you didn't do anything. It cost Greg Schiano a job.
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yeah i don't like the take that since he simply worked for baylor and penn state he should be shunned. if there has been due diligence and his name legitimately hasn't been involved with any wrongdoing, he should absolutely be considered for jobs.
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But if he didn't know anything why wouldn't we ignore it? Both situations had extensive investigations done and he's never came up. Those are both incredibly shitty things to have your name attached to if you didn't do anything. It cost Greg Schiano a job.
Considering how wrong you've been on this entire topic, you should just stay away. But you're not that smart.
Stuff like what happened at Baylor doesn't happen unless the entire culture is warped. Even one strong person could've changed this entire ordeal and probably prevented multiple crimes. Norwood isn't that person.
In addition, he seems to suck at coaching defense.
This hire sucks really bad.
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Who said he should be shunned?
And it was DJamer Wally that brought it up. Which if he wants to bring up the Baylor/Penn State situations, he needs to simply state it's been proven he was never involved, cleared (obviously), and move on.
He doesn't need to make a post like that with an inaccurate timeline as the reason he's fine. Give the man credit and say he's fine because he had zero knowledge/involvement while at those places, not cause he wasn't there.
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What’s with his career arc at Baylor, did he essentially get forced out of his DC spot for Phil Bennet and given an AHC tag?
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Who said he should be shunned?
Steffy, basically.
What transpired at Baylor was only possible because of a warped culture. Anybody associated with the football program during that time is forever tainted.
There are a million coaches out there. Why go there?
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But if he didn't know anything why wouldn't we ignore it? Both situations had extensive investigations done and he's never came up. Those are both incredibly shitty things to have your name attached to if you didn't do anything. It cost Greg Schiano a job.
Considering how wrong you've been on this entire topic, you should just stay away. But you're not that smart.
Stuff like what happened at Baylor doesn't happen unless the entire culture is warped. Even one strong person could've changed this entire ordeal and probably prevented multiple crimes. Norwood isn't that person.
In addition, he seems to suck at coaching defense.
This hire sucks really bad.
What the eff have I been wrong about, fuckwit? No one was wrong about Baylor, no one, including you, didn't say crap about serial rapes being covered up.
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But if he didn't know anything why wouldn't we ignore it? Both situations had extensive investigations done and he's never came up. Those are both incredibly shitty things to have your name attached to if you didn't do anything. It cost Greg Schiano a job.
Considering how wrong you've been on this entire topic, you should just stay away. But you're not that smart.
Stuff like what happened at Baylor doesn't happen unless the entire culture is warped. Even one strong person could've changed this entire ordeal and probably prevented multiple crimes. Norwood isn't that person.
In addition, he seems to suck at coaching defense.
This hire sucks really bad.
What the eff have I been wrong about, fuckwit? No one was wrong about Baylor, no one, including you, didn't say crap about serial rapes being covered up.
You’re adorable MIR
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I'm fine with this hire. He's obviously been thoroughly vetted. Sounds like he's a good recruiter with solid ties in our primary grounds. His numbers at Tulsa are a little concerning but given the timing of this search we could have done a lot worse.
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I want to punch steffy in his goddamned stupid face.
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I want to punch steffy in his goddamned stupid face.
You think Kim Mulkey is adorable, too?