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Paul Johnson- "Option football! Hey we will be a tough game for every team we play! Conference championship!"
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Al Bohl- "Gene and Al! Boys are Back in Town! Haha! it will be cool and they will be good with a budget and a big time conference!"
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Jim Leavitt
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Jim Leavitt
Jim Leavitt is not gross.
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Sweaty Gary
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For K State
Bret Bielema
Chad Morris-SMU
For UT
Les Miles
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I’m you guys, the answer is obvious, Ron Prince.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
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Sean
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mike riley
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Jim Leavitt
Jim Leavitt is not gross.
Not true, you see the stink lines radiating off of his body.
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Charlie Strong
Leach
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I would be 100% satisfied with either of those candidates.
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Greg Schiano
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Al Bohl- "Gene and Al! Boys are Back in Town! Haha! it will be cool and they will be good with a budget and a big time conference!"
Hope you mean Craig and not Al
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perry ellis- i think that the old dog still has something in him
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bo pelini- always seemed like a true wildcat at heart, let’s bring bo home
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bo pelini- always seemed like a true wildcat at heart, let’s bring bo home
I could probably talk myself into bo if carl comes along as well
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bring home stoops.. mike stoops
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Turner gill
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Some really good contributions ITT. I'm impressed with how many shitty coaches we have come up with.
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Skipper Holtz
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Al Bohl- "Gene and Al! Boys are Back in Town! Haha! it will be cool and they will be good with a budget and a big time conference!"
I really don't think KU's former AD would be a good football coach.
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lol craig
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Some really good contributions ITT. I'm impressed with how many shitty coaches we have come up with.
Yes. Both on being gross and on able to talk ourselves into.
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bo pelini- always seemed like a true wildcat at heart, let’s bring bo home
I could probably talk myself into bo if carl comes along as well
I don't think there's that much blow in Manhattan.
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bo pelini- always seemed like a true wildcat at heart, let’s bring bo home
I could probably talk myself into bo if carl comes along as well
I don't think there's that much blow in Manhattan.
People's memories are short. I bet most kids at Kstate don't even realize Nebraska was in the BigXII or who Pelini is.
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bo pelini- always seemed like a true wildcat at heart, let’s bring bo home
I could probably talk myself into bo if carl comes along as well
I don't think there's that much blow in Manhattan.
People's memories are short. I bet most kids at Kstate don't even realize Nebraska was in the BigXII or who Pelini is.
Sadly MIR's awesome joke went sailing over your head
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bo pelini- always seemed like a true wildcat at heart, let’s bring bo home
I could probably talk myself into bo if carl comes along as well
I don't think there's that much blow in Manhattan.
People's memories are short. I bet most kids at Kstate don't even realize Nebraska was in the BigXII or who Pelini is.
Sadly MIR's awesome joke went sailing over your head
up one nostril and out the other
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bo pelini- always seemed like a true wildcat at heart, let’s bring bo home
I could probably talk myself into bo if carl comes along as well
I don't think there's that much blow in Manhattan.
have to go checkout the ATsnow house
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Gary Barnett. I think he has several good years left and a thing or two up his sleeve. :thumbsup: (ftp://:thumbsup:)
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Dickey
Tom
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Wonder what Charlie Weiss is up to these days.
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Mangina?
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Gary Barnett. I think he has several good years left and a thing or two up his sleeve. :thumbsup: (ftp://:thumbsup:)
I easily could have talked myself into Barnett after Prince got canned. He's too old now and has been out of coaching for too long though.
Would take Bo Pelini.
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Mangino would create a hilarious nuclear reaction.
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Mangino would create a hilarious nuclear reaction.
And we could wear those funny "our coach can eat your coach" shirts.
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Mangino would create a hilarious nuclear reaction.
And we could wear those funny "our coach can eat your coach" shirts.
In purple.
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Gary Barnett. I think he has several good years left and a thing or two up his sleeve. :thumbsup: (ftp://:thumbsup:)
I easily could have talked myself into Barnett after Prince got canned. He's too old now and has been out of coaching for too long though.
Would take Bo Pelini.
I thought about the age thing but he is 7 years younger than Snydsies and as long as he doesn't have HPV that will lead to throat cancer I'm pretty sure he could come in and do some marvelous things quickly. :whistle1: (ftp://:whistle1:)
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I seem to remember some unsavory things about Barnett's tenure at CU. No thanks.
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Gary Barnett. I think he has several good years left and a thing or two up his sleeve. :thumbsup: (ftp://:thumbsup:)
I was going to say his name, but he's 71 and ended his career with an overall losing record. That's too gross for me.
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Leavitt is the “I wanted Sean but I will settle for Leavitt” option for Bill. I’d rather have Leavitt than Sean. Ice is cold, sun is hot.
I am starting to get excited about Charlie Strong though.
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Tuberville. Bob Davie. John Mackovic. Chizik. Muschamp.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
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What about Gary Pinkel? :dunno: (ftp://:dunno:) I mean if Syndsies can lick throat cancer :fatty: (ftp://:fatty:) I'm betting a young buck like Gary will be just fine with the advancements they've made in medicine. Dude could recruit the crap out of those Missouri kids. Come out of retirement Gary! We could be the University that brings dudes out of retirment. :excited: (ftp://:excited:)
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Gary Barnett. I think he has several good years left and a thing or two up his sleeve. :thumbsup: (ftp://:thumbsup:)
I easily could have talked myself into Barnett after Prince got canned. He's too old now and has been out of coaching for too long though.
Would take Bo Pelini.
Pelini is coaching it up at Youngstown State in Ohio.
I think the issues were not have been even reported if Pelini won in Lincoln but because he won only on average 10 games a season for 7 seasons they used the issues to fire him.
Pelini for sure should get another chance.
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Pinkle definitely qualifies as a gross coach I’d be at least moderately excited about. As far as fired coaches go, I don’t think Strong is gross at all, but I don’t think I could get excited about Muschamp. Is that weird?
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Pinkle definitely qualifies as a gross coach I’d be at least moderately excited about. As far as fired coaches go, I don’t think Strong is gross at all, but I don’t think I could get excited about Muschamp. Is that weird?
Muschamp is dogshit. Strong would get me pretty excited.
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:Chirp:
Jim Leavitt
Jim Leavitt is not gross.
He’s gross to me because I only have eyes for Venzy and everyone else would be a letdown for me. But I could totally convince myself and be cool with him as a silver or bronze medal.
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Venzy is a sexy pick but risky. Leavitt will win. Venzy is a question mark as a hc. Kstate had the balls to hire the mobster Bob Huggins after his transgressions. I love the leavitt pick. However unlike huggy, JL would probably hang around.
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Also Leavitt is nowhere near as good at coaching football as Huggy is at coaching basketball, so that makes 2 differences.
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And Leavitt isn’t coming with a package of the best players our program has ever seen.
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:billdance:
And Leavitt isn’t coming with a package of the best players our program has ever seen.
That worked out.
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Huggs was also a decade younger than what leavitt would be coming in at. Jim is old AF and looks like death.
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Dennis Franchone
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That pic Leach at Tech. The last school to have AstroTurf, as in the old school stuff. The last release, before going strictly field hockey
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Pelini is 49 years old and never won less than 9 games in any season during 7 seasons at Nebraska. He finished 67-27 overall and 39-17 in the Big 12/10.
Would take.
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Pelini is 49 years old and never won less than 9 games in any season during 7 seasons at Nebraska. He finished 67-27 overall and 39-17 in the Big 12/10.
Would take.
Only within the last year would that have even been a possibility. You think pencil pushing needle dick Currie would have ever allowed it? Nope. So, yeah I would welcome the actual possibility.
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Pelini is 49 years old and never won less than 9 games in any season during 7 seasons at Nebraska. He finished 67-27 overall and 39-17 in the Big 12/10.
Would take.
I was going to ask why he hasn't landed a decent gig yet and realized nebraska is subsidizing him until 2018. Also the Pelini/Tressel combo at youngstown state is :sdeek:
They are MCMW big time up there
Then Pelini found out about the free-agent defensive lineman on campus, he stalked Richmond, talked to people back home, and recruited him to play for the Penguins. That’s right, he sought out a convicted rapist, who was minding his own business and trying to put his life together, and convinced Richmond to play football.
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And Leavitt isn’t coming with a package of the best players our program has ever seen.
He is coming in looking like a Muppet though, he has that.
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Mike Stoops
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a little kid assembled him from parts during recess
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I seem to remember some unsavory things about Barnett's tenure at CU. No thanks.
Unsavory goes hand in hand with gross.
That said, don't want Barnett here. Let him replace Beaty at KU.
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Venzy is a sexy pick but risky. Leavitt will win. Venzy is a question mark as a hc. Kstate had the balls to hire the mobster Bob Huggins after his transgressions. I love the leavitt pick. However unlike huggy, JL would probably hang around.
Kstatefans.com [was] that waaaay....— — >
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Kinda surprised Frank Solich never got another shot. He's too old now tho.
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We are all going to be so disappointed whenever a hire is made.
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Dlew embarrassing confession time: I could talk myself into Craig Bohl.
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I talked myself into Ron Prince, so really I'm sure I would be ok with just about anyone until they start losing.
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I talked myself into Ron Prince, so really I'm sure I would be ok with just about anyone until they start losing.
Pretty much this.
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I talked myself into Ron Prince, so really I'm sure I would be ok with just about anyone until they start losing.
Pretty much this.
Yeah. If Sean were hired, he'd have to win me over.
Pretty much anyone else, and I'd be on board until they lost me.
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Kinda surprised Frank Solich never got another shot. He's too old now tho.
Another shot at what? He's been at Ohio for 12 years. His record has been good enough to keep his job but not good enough for a P5 job.
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Kinda surprised Frank Solich never got another shot. He's too old now tho.
Another shot at what? He's been at Ohio for 12 years. His record has been good enough to keep his job but not good enough for a P5 job.
At a P5. 10 out of those 12 years he's been .500 or better. 1 of those losing seasons was his first season there. He was at least good enough to get out of the MAC.
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Kinda surprised Frank Solich never got another shot. He's too old now tho.
Another shot at what? He's been at Ohio for 12 years. His record has been good enough to keep his job but not good enough for a P5 job.
At a P5. 10 out of those 12 years he's been .500 or better. 1 of those losing seasons was his first season there. He was at least good enough to get out of the MAC.
Solich is oscar Weber-y
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Kinda surprised Frank Solich never got another shot. He's too old now tho.
Another shot at what? He's been at Ohio for 12 years. His record has been good enough to keep his job but not good enough for a P5 job.
At a P5. 10 out of those 12 years he's been .500 or better. 1 of those losing seasons was his first season there. He was at least good enough to get out of the MAC.
Solich is oscar Weber-y
Yeah, and at his age he was limited. Plus, he had only been at Nebraska as a player and coach. He had a few years of coaching HS (in Nebraska), but that was it. He was around 60 when he went to Ohio, if he had gone on a run of 3-4 straight 9 win seasons he would've gotten another shot, but he has just had sporadic success at Ohio.
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I could figure out a way to talk myself into every coach named in here except Sean.
From the sounds of it a lot of the coaching staff has been/was pissed Bill put Sean in charge while he was out. So I don't think Sean could even put together a staff that would win in the Mountain West, let alone here.
Most of the others I could make myself see some positives.
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Tuberville. Bob Davie. John Mackovic. Chizik. Muschamp.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
this is a truly dogshit list. mine is mike leach. who is a terrible human being but would win big here. lovers of leach please go suck off his trump voting swashbuckling sword elsewhere.
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anyone putting will muschamp should be taken out back immediately
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I just realized the girl behind the girl in pvegs avatar is flipping the double birds.
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Has Frank Solich been found passed out in an idling automobile since early in his tenure at Miami of Ohio?
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I just realized the girl behind the girl in pvegs avatar is flipping the double birds.
It was a volatile moment in time.
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I had to go appreciate this again.
(http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/giants-fan-flipping-off-entire-section-of-49ers-fans-fans-flipping-the-bird-gifs.gif)
http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=34594.0
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Tony rough ridin' Romo!
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Romo would make a better FB coach than Gottleib would make a BB coach.
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Is Jerry Glanville still active?
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Is Jerry Glanville still active?
Is Jerry Glanville still alive?
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Chip Kelly
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
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I'll talk myself into just about anyone except for Sean and Dana.
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I'll talk myself into just about anyone except for Sean and Dana.
I never even thought of Dimel as HC. crap!
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IT's SEAN. Wasn't that a foregone conclusion when Veatch left and they hired the corn farmer?
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From the sounds of it a lot of the coaching staff has been/was pissed Bill put Sean in charge while he was out.
Well they'd be delusional idiots. The only other coach, on this staff, anywhere close to more qualified to be an interim is Dana. Dana's failed stint at Wyoming doesn't make him more qualified either.
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From the sounds of it a lot of the coaching staff has been/was pissed Bill put Sean in charge while he was out.
Well they'd be delusional idiots. The only other coach, on this staff, anywhere close to more qualified to be an interim is Dana. Dana's failed stint at Wyoming doesn't make him more qualified either.
think you mean Houston
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Dana definitely belongs on the short list of people you wouldn't talk yourself into.
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Bring Del Miller back.
He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
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From the sounds of it a lot of the coaching staff has been/was pissed Bill put Sean in charge while he was out.
Well they'd be delusional idiots. The only other coach, on this staff, anywhere close to more qualified to be an interim is Dana. Dana's failed stint at Wyoming doesn't make him more qualified either.
think you mean Houston
Dana was HC at both Wyoming and Houston. 30-39 overall. Won't be HC here.
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Not that I’m much of a fan of Sean, but who else was gonna be in charge?
Say Tom, could ya put down Fry Master Quarterly and handle things while coach is out?
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Jim McElwain
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No way.
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Pretty good record. If anything, he's not gross enough. Still pretty gross, though!
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Matt Campbell
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Matt Campbell
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Not even a little gross, well he could use some dental work, but he's not gross.
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Matt Campbell
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Not even a little gross, well he could use some dental work, but he's not gross.
How mad would ISU fans be if he left them for Nebraska?
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Matt Campbell
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Not even a little gross, well he could use some dental work, but he's not gross.
How mad would ISU fans be if he left them for Nebraska?
Please let that happen!
[you], I hope you're having a great day!
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Matt Campbell
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Not even a little gross, well he could use some dental work, but he's not gross.
How mad would ISU fans be if he left them for Nebraska?
The saltiest, but I don't see it.
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Matt Campbell
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Not even a little gross, well he could use some dental work, but he's not gross.
How mad would ISU fans be if he left them for Nebraska?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.desmoinesregister.com/amp/787742001
Tom
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Matt Campbell
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Not even a little gross, well he could use some dental work, but he's not gross.
How mad would ISU fans be if he left them for Nebraska?
Please let that happen!
[you], I hope you're having a great day!
Thanks, man. Let's all have a great week! :cheers: <-- (coffee, not beers)
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[you] is the best. I'm glad we are all getting along so well here at gE.
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[you] is the best. I'm glad we are all getting along so well here at gE.
Well done, mods. :D
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[you] is the best. I'm glad we are all getting along so well here at gE.
Well done, mods. :D
Fairly confused :confused:
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How mad would ISU fans be if he left them for Nebraska?
The saltiest, but I don't see it.
They would be dumb to not go hard after him. Winning at Toledo and Ames would seem to translate well to Nebraska over going after weird hires like they did with Callahan and Riley.
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Fairly confused :confused:
You're not the only one. Apparently I've missed some kind of inside joke on this board where SdK and friends want to interact and/or pretend to be me. :dunno:
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Fairly confused :confused:
You're not the only one. Apparently I've missed some kind of inside joke on this board where SdK and friends want to interact and/or pretend to be me. :dunno:
Not even sure how it would have even started but they sure are being nice!
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Fairly confused :confused:
You're not the only one. Apparently I've missed some kind of inside joke on this board where SdK and friends want to interact and/or pretend to be me. :dunno:
Not even sure how it would have even started but they sure are being nice!
Figured it out. The answer is in the "KU football is hurting" thread, page 743.
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Fairly confused :confused:
You're not the only one. Apparently I've missed some kind of inside joke on this board where SdK and friends want to interact and/or pretend to be me. :dunno:
Not even sure how it would have even started but they sure are being nice!
Figured it out. The answer is in the "KU football is hurting" thread, page 743.
Makes alot of sense to me...... :dunno:
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How mad would ISU fans be if he left them for Nebraska?
The saltiest, but I don't see it.
They would be dumb to not go hard after him. Winning at Toledo and Ames would seem to translate well to Nebraska over going after weird hires like they did with Callahan and Riley.
I don't think he'd take that job
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I don't think he'd take that job
True, especially after looking at this: http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/
I'm surprised Nebraska is that low in coaching salary for Riley, and not that much more than ISU is paying Campbell.
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I don't think he'd take that job
True, especially after looking at this: http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/
I'm surprised Nebraska is that low in coaching salary for Riley, and not that much more than ISU is paying Campbell.
I think I posted $4m on KSO as the minimum figure we need to advertise the job for to attract candidates (rather than preemptively picking from the lol pool of like 5 questionable dudes with KS/Snyder ties) and select the best one.
Looks like maybe we need to start at $5m.
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No, 3 to 3.5 will be fine. PJ Fleck was the highest paid new hire last year and he was at 3.5. What's more important for our new hire is what we set aside for our assistants, right now they're well paid.
The :surprised: about the USA Today chart are the buyouts.
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Matt Campbell
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Not even a little gross, well he could use some dental work, but he's not gross.
How mad would ISU fans be if he left them for Nebraska?
Please let that happen!
[you], I hope you're having a great day!
:cheers:
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Petro brought up Rich Rod yesterday. Thoughts?
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Petro brought up Rich Rod yesterday. Thoughts?
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Petro brought up Rich Rod yesterday. Thoughts?
He was on track to get fired until about a month ago. Still might if the last 4 games don't go well? :dunno:
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I have no faith at all in Rich Rod's ability to win the Big 12.
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Petro brought up Rich Rod yesterday. Thoughts?
Naw... would consider if he has a Khalil Tate for every game ever until he retires, though.
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When he's been good, he's good, but when he's been bad, he's been real bad. I like WVU Rich Rod. Michigan was a crap show and the Arizona experiment has been all over the map. Probably too inconsistent for our likings.
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I mean, :love: this though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNPdi5hRLy8
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:love:
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Petro brought up Rich Rod yesterday. Thoughts?
what hour was this/did he have a guest when he gave that idea? i want to go back and find the podcast version of him saying this.
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would take rich rod i think
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would take rich rod i think
His record is a bit oscar-y, but he's a much more palatable personality IMHO.
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Petro brought up Rich Rod yesterday. Thoughts?
what hour was this/did he have a guest when he gave that idea? i want to go back and find the podcast version of him saying this.
I wish I knew. I believe I was coming back from lunch so like 1ish? It was either yesterday or Monday too. I remember wanting to post it, but I was needed when I got back to work and forgot to post it.
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couldn't talk myself into Rich Rod.
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would take rich rod i think
His record is a bit oscar-y, but he's a much more palatable personality IMHO.
Only one winning conference season (2014) since leaving WVU. The Pac 12 South has been down most of his tenure at UofA too.
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Not a fan of guys who have THAT much of a history and it is still pretty bad on average. Give me a young guy with promise or an Andy Reid / Les Miles type who is consistently good even if it seems like he can't win the big one.
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Not a fan of guys who have THAT much of a history and it is still pretty bad on average. Give me a young guy with promise or an Andy Reid / Les Miles type who is consistently good even if it seems like he can't win the big one.
I'm all for a young, successful MAC coach. Those guys seem to most consistently move up to P5 schools and have success.
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Not a fan of guys who have THAT much of a history and it is still pretty bad on average. Give me a young guy with promise or an Andy Reid / Les Miles type who is consistently good even if it seems like he can't win the big one.
I'm all for a young, successful MAC coach. Those guys seem to most consistently move up to P5 schools and have success.
You are mostly correct, however:
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:lol:
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Can't get excited about Rich Rod.
Also, interesting tidbit about his contract.
An Arizona donor has helped pad this deal further, offering up equity to Rodriguez, basketball coach Sean Miller and athletic director Greg Byrne. This “major university benefactor"—as outlined by the Board of Regents—has offered 500,000 units of a master limited partnership. Each unit is currently valued at $35.36 for a total of $17,680,000.
Rodriguez was granted 175,000 units of the 500,000, which equates to $6,188,000 right now. The only caveat for him to cash in on such options is that he has to stay at the school for eight years to receive this payout, whatever it becomes. If the price of the unit goes up in that time, his payout will go up; if the company struggles and the units drop in value, his payouts decrease.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2083140-rich-rodriguezs-unorthodox-new-contract-could-open-pandoras-box (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2083140-rich-rodriguezs-unorthodox-new-contract-could-open-pandoras-box)
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Can't include Turner Gill, no one can win at KU.
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Speaking of MAC coaches. I was thinking of Jason Candle who is head coach for Toledo and has a nice record and recruitment track record. He is currently 4-0 in conference and undefeated all year.
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Speaking of MAC coaches. I was thinking of Jason Candle who is head coach for Toledo and has a nice record and recruitment track record. He is currently 4-0 in conference and undefeated all year.
I would wait at least 1 year (preferably two) before hiring a guy who just stepped into a good program left behind by a good coach.
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I would wait at least 1 year (preferably two) before hiring a guy who just stepped into a good program left behind by a good coach.
Agree.
Also, I'm not sure how "successful" I'd consider Gill at Buffalo.
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Speaking of MAC coaches. I was thinking of Jason Candle who is head coach for Toledo and has a nice record and recruitment track record. He is currently 4-0 in conference and undefeated all year.
I would wait at least 1 year (preferably two) before hiring a guy who just stepped into a good program left behind by a good coach.
Could be a good hire if we don't get another gross coach.
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Different Rod guys. NIU head coach Rod Carey who is in his fifth season and is 6-2 with notable win at Nebraska. The dude may be bald but it seems as if he can coach seeing as the Huskies have a 41-21 record since he took over the team.
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Different Rod guys. NIU head coach Rod Carey who is in his fifth season and is 6-2 with notable win at Nebraska. The dude may be bald but it seems as if he can coach seeing as the Huskies have a 41-21 record since he took over the team.
So what makes him gross? Being bald or loitering around in Nebraska?
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Different Rod guys. NIU head coach Rod Carey who is in his fifth season and is 6-2 with notable win at Nebraska. The dude may be bald but it seems as if he can coach seeing as the Huskies have a 41-21 record since he took over the team.
So what makes him gross? Being bald or loitering around in Nebraska?
He is 0-4 in Bowls, thats pretty gross
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I would wait at least 1 year (preferably two) before hiring a guy who just stepped into a good program left behind by a good coach.
Agree.
Also, I'm not sure how "successful" I'd consider Gill at Buffalo.
Pretty sure they are the KU of the MAC, so that record is v impressive imo
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Jim McElwain
I think Currie grabs him.
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would take rich rod i think
His record is a bit oscar-y, but he's a much more palatable personality IMHO.
Only one winning conference season (2014) since leaving WVU. The Pac 12 South has been down most of his tenure at UofA too.
ok you talked me out of it
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would take rich rod i think
His record is a bit oscar-y, but he's a much more palatable personality IMHO.
If you know anyone in Michigan, talk to them. They think Rich Rod was their Ron Prince. Did nothing but piss off alumni, students and anyone else he came in physical contact with. We don't need another arrogant prick who's at best a mediocre coach.
Only one winning conference season (2014) since leaving WVU. The Pac 12 South has been down most of his tenure at UofA too.
ok you talked me out of it
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Different Rod guys. NIU head coach Rod Carey who is in his fifth season and is 6-2 with notable win at Nebraska. The dude may be bald but it seems as if he can coach seeing as the Huskies have a 41-21 record since he took over the team.
Also lost at home to FCS Western Illinois a year ago.
Tom
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Too lazy to go back and reread the whole thread but Kyle Wittingham. Not exactly gross but underperformed a bit since joining the PAC-12. Still think he’s a good coach and they almost always have a good defense
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Jim McElwain
I think Currie grabs him.
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Jim McElwain
I think Currie grabs him.
Yes, failed and fired coach with experience... exactly the resume JC dog sniffs out. :thumbs:
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Checklist:
- Head coaching experience
- See first item
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What would we think of Bielema? I think he'd be a good hire. Decidedly mediocre at Arkansas, but that's a pretty brutal division.
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What would we think of Bielema? I think he'd be a good hire. Decidedly mediocre at Arkansas, but that's a pretty brutal division.
I could talk myself into it as well. He made a very dumb decision in going to Arkansas IMO. I think his style of play and recruiting abilities would fit much better in Manhattan.
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What would we think of Bielema? I think he'd be a good hire. Decidedly mediocre at Arkansas, but that's a pretty brutal division.
I could talk myself into it as well. He made a very dumb decision in going to Arkansas IMO. I think his style of play and recruiting abilities would fit much better in Manhattan.
Wouldn't need any talking into, frankly. I think I'm still with Venzy as the homerun, but after that, I'd say Bielema is my favorite realistic choice.
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Super gross
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Super gross
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Super gross
Okay...
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I'm not a big Beilema fan. Not the worst we could do, but the flopping against Alabama and some of his off the field stuff annoys me. Even if you forgive his divisional SEC losses, he has some other real bad losses on his resume. I also don't think he has a terribly high ceiling, particularly against B12 spread offenses. He success was while the B10 was still playing a lot more ground and pound football.
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Doesn't have a high ceiling? He won double digit games 4 of his 7 years at Wisconsin (12-1; 10-3; 11-2; 11-3).
I acknowledge his record at Arkansas has been mediocre and he's had some bad losses, but give me Bielema over whatever flavor-of-the-year coach the MAC spits out this off-season.
Plus he's a weirdo, which is a HUGE plus in my book.
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yes, would take Bielema
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yes, would take Bielema
He had some serious whiffs as he brought about a change in recruiting efforts at KSU. Kids just did not work out and it helped lead to the slide that we saw after 2003 that led to the Snyder's first exit. He may not have been here for that slide due to the moving on to Wisconsin, but his choices played into it.
I am not saying he would be an awful hire. I am just noting there are issues of concern from his period in Manhattan.
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I would not be able to talk myself into Bert Bielema. He is terrible.
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I think he would be a better fit here than a lot of names.
Pretty sure he likes pro style offense with huge offensive linemen, two TE sets, down hill running, PA, etc.. Play some solid/physical D and I think that's a set up that could succeed in the current Big 12.
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None of his Arkansas teams would compete in the Big 12 any better than they did in the SEC.
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Who is the CFB version of Doug Gottlieb? Has Jesse Palmer ever hinted at a coaching career?
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We should go after Romo HARD
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Super gross
Okay...
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Yes!
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Yeah Chingon's football coach desires are DQ'd given Tub.
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Bielema would be FUN!
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Who is the CFB version of Doug Gottlieb? Has Jesse Palmer ever hinted at a coaching career?
it's clearly kirk herbstreit
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I've also talked myself into gross bert
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at least with Bert we'd get a hot first lady
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None of his Arkansas teams would compete in the Big 12 any better than they did in the SEC.
Lol.
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If we're going to go after failed Ark HC's, let's go all in and see if Bobby Petrino wouldn't be interested.
He's not headed to being just another grossly obese HC (and subsequent HUGE medical insurance premium)
He rides a Harley (possible be the lead rider for the next Harley Day)
He's .500 in bowl games
Has a career .71 winning percentage
and,
he gets himself fired so we wouldn't actually have to pay him like that other school in Ks has been doing (and we secretly did w/ RP)
Sounds like a win-win to me.
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The ratings LOVED Bielema's 2nd and 3rd teams at Arkansas and I think we can attest his year 3 team was pretty good.
But the last two years, especially this one, have been very ugly.
Plus, he might want to keep Sean because his teams usually stink at special teams.
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That 2014 team finished dead last in the SEC west, with 6 losses to teams ranked in the top 20.
In 2014 a decent K-State team was playing for the conference championship the last weekend of the season.
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I'm not sure I could come up with 5 coaches who would be worse than Bielema. I'm sure they are out there, but I don't know who they are.
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I'm not sure I could come up with 5 coaches who would be worse than Bielema. I'm sure they are out there, but I don't know who they are.
Name three realistic options that are better, please.
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I'm not sure I could come up with 5 coaches who would be worse than Bielema. I'm sure they are out there, but I don't know who they are.
Name three realistic options that are better, please.
Ruffin McNeill
Charlie Strong
Jim McElwain
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I'm not sure I could come up with 5 coaches who would be worse than Bielema. I'm sure they are out there, but I don't know who they are.
Name three realistic options that are better, please.
Ruffin McNeil
Charlie Strong
Jim McElwain
lol
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Sean Snyder
Tommy Tuberville
Jim Leavitt
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You can stop, RATM. I just wanted to see the types of names you'd throw out.
Not sure what your grudge with Bielema is, but it's odd.
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I wonder why McElwain did so poorly compared to Kirby Smart.
I guess the results aren't THAT different after two seasons, but still
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McElwain won his division two years in a row and then got fired midway through his third season. I think he would be great here.
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McElwain won his division two years in a row and then got fired midway through his third season. I think he would be great here.
Winning the SEC East in '15 and '16 isn't a very remarkable feat. Especially when you're Florida.
By the way, he lost to Bielema by 3 touchdowns last year.
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Really don't get the McElwain hate.
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Really don't get the McElwain hate.
He's had 3 unremarkable years of P5 coaching experience at one of the easiest places to win in the country.
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Really don't get the McElwain hate.
He's had 3 unremarkable years of P5 coaching at one of the easiest places to win in the country.
He had 2.5 years at a program that was rebuilding from just firing a coach and won 9 and 10 games in the only full seasons he coached.
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Really don't get the McElwain hate.
He's had 3 unremarkable years of P5 coaching at one of the easiest places to win in the country.
He had 2.5 years at a program that was rebuilding from just firing a coach and won 9 and 10 games in the only full seasons he coached.
Wasn't much of a rebuild. UF won 7 games the year before he took over. In year 3 he's 4*-6.
Think Florida gets to 7 this year?
*I'm spotting you the canceled northern colorado game as a W.
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does Tuttle creek have enough sharks to satifsy McElwain's thirst?
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Really don't get the McElwain hate.
He's had 3 unremarkable years of P5 coaching at one of the easiest places to win in the country.
He had 2.5 years at a program that was rebuilding from just firing a coach and won 9 and 10 games in the only full seasons he coached.
Wasn't much of a rebuild. UF won 7 games the year before he took over. In year 3 he's 4*-6.
Think Florida gets to 7 this year?
*I'm spotting you the canceled northern colorado game as a W.
Top 10 recruiting classes for the 4 of the 5 years (one other was 23rd) before he got there.
Would take a special coach to rebuild after the lack of talent in that program when he got there.
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It's hard to imagine a P5 school where it's easier to get ten wins than the University of Florida, given their division and recruiting base.
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I'm pretty excited about us hiring Bielema, you guys.
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I'm pretty excited about us hiring Bielema, you guys.
It's would be an artistic renaissance for you.
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Really don't get the McElwain hate.
for being such a qb genius why couldnt he ever find a decent qb?
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Really don't get the McElwain hate.
for being such a qb genius why couldnt he ever find a decent qb?
The whole faking death threats thing isn't a good look either.
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i think we've gotten so used to Leavitt that we forget how good of a hire it would be
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i think we've gotten so used to Leavitt that we forget how good of a hire it would be
Leavitt would be a fine hire. He checks a lot of boxes. It's not quite as sexy as Venables in my mind, but it'd be a fine hire nonetheless.
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i think we've gotten so used to Leavitt that we forget how good of a hire it would be
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And Leavitt would be the easiest hire in the world for Gene. I mean...
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Could be wrong, but I think Leavitt would be the 5th oldest coach in the FBS. Not sure that's the culture change needed, but he would be a good hire to keep things going, I guess.
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thoughts on these fine (gross) gentleman?
mark helfirch
gary barnett
rick neuheisal
brady hoke
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Could be wrong, but I think Leavitt would be the 5th oldest coach in the FBS. Not sure that's the culture change needed, but he would be a good hire to keep things going, I guess.
He's going on 61 so that would be a bit of a drawback. Although, you'd never guess that if you follow his Twitter account. The man has ice cold Pepsi running through his veins.
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thoughts on these fine (gross) gentleman?
mark helfirch
gary barnett
rick neuheisal
brady hoke
I don't think any of those make any sense.
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Could be wrong, but I think Leavitt would be the 5th oldest coach in the FBS. Not sure that's the culture change needed, but he would be a good hire to keep things going, I guess.
He's going on 61 so that would be a bit of a drawback. Although, you'd never guess that if you follow his Twitter account. The man has ice cold Pepsi running through his veins.
I think he would be fun as a head coach. If he gets a brand new staff that's all I care about
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thoughts on these fine (gross) gentleman?
mark helfirch
gary barnett
rick neuheisal
brady hoke
I don't think any of those make any sense.
id say helfrich does and maybe barnett, but im just throwing crap against the wall at this point
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Barnett is old af too. I brought him up in the earlier pages.
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He's also kind of a crap head when talking about K-State on 810, so I just don't see a fit there. He's a Mizzou guy through and through.
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thoughts on these fine (gross) gentleman?
mark helfirch
gary barnett
rick neuheisal
brady hoke
I don't think any of those make any sense.
id say helfrich does and maybe barnett, but im just throwing crap against the wall at this point
Gary Barnett is 71 years old.
Helfrich is a fine coach, but jumping from the PNW to Manhattan, KS is quite a leap.
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thoughts on these fine (gross) gentleman?
mark helfirch
gary barnett
rick neuheisal
brady hoke
I don't think any of those make any sense.
id say helfrich does and maybe barnett, but im just throwing crap against the wall at this point
Gary Barnett is 71 years old.
Helfrich is a fine coach, but jumping from the PNW to Manhattan, KS is quite a leap.
i know he is old, but that hasnt really mattered to ksu obviously as far as helfrich i just want an offensive guy with the way the big 12 is now. id hope he could come on as a coordinator
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Could be wrong, but I think Leavitt would be the 5th oldest coach in the FBS. Not sure that's the culture change needed, but he would be a good hire to keep things going, I guess.
He's going on 61 so that would be a bit of a drawback. Although, you'd never guess that if you follow his Twitter account. The man has ice cold Pepsi running through his veins.
I think he would be fun as a head coach. If he gets a brand new staff that's all I care about
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No doubt.
https://twitter.com/CoachJimLeavitt/status/925881221493669888
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You want Oregon's current head coach to be our offensive coordinator? Yeah, sign me up.
And I mean, aside from Barnett's age (which is a huge issue), I think any hire will require Snyder's (at least tacit) blessing. In that respect, Barnett (even independent of his age) would be a non-starter. I'm fairly certain that Barnett and Snyder hate one another. I'd be surprised if Barnett ever coached again, but he certainly will never be K-State's head coach.
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You want Oregon's current head coach to be our offensive coordinator? Yeah, sign me up.
And I mean, aside from Barnett's age (which is a huge issue), I think any hire will require Snyder's (at least tacit) blessing. In that respect, Barnett (even independent of his age) would be a non-starter. I'm fairly certain that Barnett and Snyder hate one another. I'd be surprised if Barnett ever coached again, but he certainly will never be K-State's head coach.
oregons head coach is willie taggert
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oregon's prior head coach*
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Could be wrong, but I think Leavitt would be the 5th oldest coach in the FBS. Not sure that's the culture change needed, but he would be a good hire to keep things going, I guess.
He's going on 61 so that would be a bit of a drawback. Although, you'd never guess that if you follow his Twitter account. The man has ice cold Pepsi running through his veins.
I think he would be fun as a head coach. If he gets a brand new staff that's all I care about
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No doubt.
https://twitter.com/CoachJimLeavitt/status/925881221493669888
He just gets so jazzed up. Way cooler than Bill IMO
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someone tell me why Bret would be a worse hire than Jim.
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leavitt is garbage, don’t hire him
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someone tell me why Bret would be a worse hire than Jim.
Only reason would be that Jim has had more recent success in his role than Bielema has.
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i think we've gotten so used to Leavitt that we forget how good of a hire it would be
Leavitt would be a fine hire. He checks a lot of boxes. It's not quite as sexy as Venables in my mind, but it'd be a fine hire nonetheless.
i agree and gun to my head i probably prefer venables, but it can't be overstated how much ass leavitt kicked at usf when he started from nothing.
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someone tell me why Bret would be a worse hire than Jim.
I wouldn't be all that excited about either of them, but Jim doesn't have the record of failure that Bret does.
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i think we've gotten so used to Leavitt that we forget how good of a hire it would be
Leavitt would be a fine hire. He checks a lot of boxes. It's not quite as sexy as Venables in my mind, but it'd be a fine hire nonetheless.
I agree with this 100%. Especially if Leavitt comes in for 5-10 seasons and we go 8-4 or so regularly he could dispel the myth that only Snyder can win here. Of course we all want K-State to be awesome, but if a coach post Snyder can come in a have decent success (go to bowl games, win a big game maybe once a year, and flirt with or win a pepper every 5th or 10th year) we can more easily get the big sexy hire more easily after that. Plus Leavitt being older but not super old fits well in that he won't jump ship and won't be around too long either.
Though if we get Venables out of the gate then LFG
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someone tell me why Bret would be a worse hire than Jim.
fat? i really dont know other than maybe how arrogant he is
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someone tell me why Bret would be a worse hire than Jim.
I wouldn't be all that excited about either of them, but Jim doesn't have the record of failure that Bret does.
True. But McElwain? There's a guy who's never failed.
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someone tell me why Bret would be a worse hire than Jim.
I wouldn't be all that excited about either of them, but Jim doesn't have the record of failure that Bret does.
True. But McElwain? There's a guy who's never failed.
He was never given a chance.
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someone tell me why Bret would be a worse hire than Jim.
I wouldn't be all that excited about either of them, but Jim doesn't have the record of failure that Bret does.
True. But McElwain? There's a guy who's never failed.
He was never given a chance.
Couldn't hack it at as the big dog in a shitty division with a huge recruiting base. Surely he'll have better luck in MHK.
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He would be amazing here, dlew.
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There's only like 70 power 5 head coach jobs, right? Ours is overdue to be open. When it is, get some young stud that's been shut out of the game only because spots are so limited, in small part because our spot was getting held on to for way too long awaiting scandal/death. No gross, tainted coaches need apply.
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There's only like 70 power 5 head coach jobs, right? Ours is overdue to be open. When it is, get some young stud that's been shut out of the game only because spots are so limited, in small part because our spot was getting held on to for way too long awaiting scandal/death. No gross, tainted coaches need apply.
stick to the bachelorette
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There's only like 70 power 5 head coach jobs, right? Ours is overdue to be open. When it is, get some young stud that's been shut out of the game only because spots are so limited, in small part because our spot was getting held on to for way too long awaiting scandal/death. No gross, tainted coaches need apply.
stick to the bachelorette
Bielema would get told to take his fat ass back to the limo before even being allowed to touch a The Bachelorette with his undoubtedly sweaty paws.
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New idea, really really hot and/or popular coaches and staff.
Head Coach: Brent Venables
LB coach: Sean Lowe
Some kind of position coach: Charles Melton
Director of Ops: Stonestreet
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Just recruit the Jimmy's and Joe's, fvck X's and O's
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I'd be okay with Bielema but its going to be stoops anyways. (Bob)
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I'd be okay with Bielema but its going to be stoops anyways. (Bob)
:Woot:
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leavitt is garbage, don’t hire him
This guy gets it.
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i think we've gotten so used to Leavitt that we forget how good of a hire it would be
Leavitt would be a fine hire. He checks a lot of boxes. It's not quite as sexy as Venables in my mind, but it'd be a fine hire nonetheless.
i agree and gun to my head i probably prefer venables, but it can't be overstated how much ass leavitt kicked at usf when he started from nothing.
Actually it is hilariously overstated considering the lack of actual ass he kicked at USF even after his program was an established part of the FBS.
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A friend of mine who is an Arkansas grad and fan said this about Bielema.
I’m a little torn. I actually like him personally and think he has a good vision for building a program. However, I think he is an average recruiter, though may fare better in Big 12 given his ties to program and fact that Alabama, Auburn, LSU et al suck all of the oxygen in recruiting. My biggest knock has been his inability to make in-game adjustments, prepare his guys to play on Saturday, and develop the players he does get.
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New idea, really really hot and/or popular coaches and staff.
Head Coach: Brent Venables
LB coach: Sean Lowe
Some kind of position coach: Charles Melton
Director of Ops: Stonestreet
Wide Receivers Coach: Chase Mejia
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A friend of mine who is an Arkansas grad and fan said this about Bielema.
I’m a little torn. I actually like him personally and think he has a good vision for building a program. However, I think he is an average recruiter, though may fare better in Big 12 given his ties to program and fact that Alabama, Auburn, LSU et al suck all of the oxygen in recruiting. My biggest knock has been his inability to make in-game adjustments, prepare his guys to play on Saturday, and develop the players he does get.
Your friend is kinda stupid if he is torn but thinks he can’t recruit to Arkansas, can’t make in-game adjustments, doesn’t prepare them to play on Saturday, and can’t develop the players he does get. If he thinks that Bret can do literally none of the things a HC is supposed to do he should be pretty pumped they’re moving on.
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I'm fully preparing for Craig bohl.
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I dare you to find any coach or administrator that has a single bad thing to say about Jim Leavitt
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I dare you to find any coach or administrator that has a single bad thing to say about Jim Leavitt
Should be easy enough.
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I dare you to find any coach or administrator that has a single bad thing to say about Jim Leavitt
Should be easy enough.
You just can't do it
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New idea, really really hot and/or popular coaches and staff.
Head Coach: Brent Venables
LB coach: Sean Lowe
Some kind of position coach: Charles Melton
Director of Ops: Stonestreet
Wide Receivers Coach: Chase Mejia
D-Coord: Jaime Mendez
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RB coach: Darren Sproles
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Bob Stoops coming home to rewrite some old wrongs, bringing Mangino and Venzy along with.
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Your friend is kinda stupid if he is torn but thinks he can’t recruit to Arkansas, can’t make in-game adjustments, doesn’t prepare them to play on Saturday, and can’t develop the players he does get. If he thinks that Bret can do literally none of the things a HC is supposed to do he should be pretty pumped they’re moving on.
I think he has sort of a view similar to what some K-State fans had of Wooldridge. Of course, Bielema's "success" at Arkansas blows anything Wooly did out of the water.
But yeah, after I read his comments I'm not strongly against any thought of Bielema at K-State.
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I don't really want mangino. But seeing the hawk meltdown if we hired him as coordinator would be epic.
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No idea why people think Leavitt was so successful at USF. In the 5 years he was in the Big East he had a sub-.500 conference record, and never finished better than t-3rd or ranked in the final AP poll.
I'm sure he could lead us to a couple of 7-6 seasons and maybe a Cactus Bowl win.
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I don't really want mangino. But seeing the hawk meltdown if we hired him as coordinator would be epic.
I had a similar thought a few days ago. "What if we brought on Mangino as OC?"
Then my dad and fellow gE user reminded me of how his tenure at ISU ended and how ugly that got. No thanks.
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No idea why people think Leavitt was so successful at USF. In the 5 years he was in the Big East he had a sub-.500 conference record, and never finished better than t-3rd or ranked in the final AP poll.
I'm sure he could lead us to a couple of 7-6 seasons and maybe a Cactus Bowl win.
Nobody's claiming he turned it into some dynasty. But he did build a program, completely from nothing, and make them respectable. In short, he's a very good d-coordinator with solid HC experience.
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He took a FCS Independent football program to D1 and maintained success. it's kind of a big deal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Leavitt
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No idea why people think Leavitt was so successful at USF. In the 5 years he was in the Big East he had a sub-.500 conference record, and never finished better than t-3rd or ranked in the final AP poll.
I'm sure he could lead us to a couple of 7-6 seasons and maybe a Cactus Bowl win.
Nobody's claiming he turned it into some dynasty. But he did build a program, completely from nothing, and make them respectable. In short, he's a very good d-coordinator with solid HC experience.
his 49th ranked defense is daunting
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No idea why people think Leavitt was so successful at USF. In the 5 years he was in the Big East he had a sub-.500 conference record, and never finished better than t-3rd or ranked in the final AP poll.
I'm sure he could lead us to a couple of 7-6 seasons and maybe a Cactus Bowl win.
Nobody's claiming he turned it into some dynasty. But he did build a program, completely from nothing, and make them respectable. In short, he's a very good d-coordinator with solid HC experience.
his 49th ranked defense is daunting
Up from 126th last year.
His Colorado defense last year was 19th. This year? 109th.
Anymore questions, Clams?
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Does anyone know where I can purchase an extra long bodybag?
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Aisle 9
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His HC experience was in a talent rich state though which made recruiting easier. I would be curious what kind of staff he would put together. I would be scared he would just want another late career money grab.
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His HC experience was in a talent rich state though which made recruiting easier. I would be curious what kind of staff he would put together. I would be scared he would just want another late career money grab.
I understand that sentiment, particularly in light of the (at least perceived) attitude of much of our current staff, but I'm not very concerned about that with leavitt.
I think he still has plenty of gas in his tank, especially given the passion he's exhibited for K-State.
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No idea why people think Leavitt was so successful at USF. In the 5 years he was in the Big East he had a sub-.500 conference record, and never finished better than t-3rd or ranked in the final AP poll.
I'm sure he could lead us to a couple of 7-6 seasons and maybe a Cactus Bowl win.
Nobody's claiming he turned it into some dynasty. But he did build a program, completely from nothing, and make them respectable. In short, he's a very good d-coordinator with solid HC experience.
In that sense he was successful. But his program hit a plateau once it entered a power conference. He would have a very low ceiling in the Big 12.
If he wants to come here as our D coordinator that would be fine, but no thanks on him being the HC.
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i wonder what the back story is behind him putting the out to K-State in his current contract. i know he came to k-state from Iowa, but he hasn't been at K-State for 22 years, he didn't play here, etc.
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guys Bill is coming back.
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i wonder what the back story is behind him putting the out to K-State in his current contract. i know he came to k-state from Iowa, but he hasn't been at K-State for 22 years, he didn't play here, etc.
Doesn't take a lot for EMAW to grab you by the balls and taint. #FAMILY
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No idea why people think Leavitt was so successful at USF. In the 5 years he was in the Big East he had a sub-.500 conference record, and never finished better than t-3rd or ranked in the final AP poll.
I'm sure he could lead us to a couple of 7-6 seasons and maybe a Cactus Bowl win.
Nobody's claiming he turned it into some dynasty. But he did build a program, completely from nothing, and make them respectable. In short, he's a very good d-coordinator with solid HC experience.
In that sense he was successful. But his program hit a plateau once it entered a power conference. He would have a very low ceiling in the Big 12.
If he wants to come here as our D coordinator that would be fine, but no thanks on him being the HC.
...Right.
He literally was the first coach of an 1-AA/FCS football team. Got them to a BCS conference, and then "plateaued" at 8-9 win seasons. Remind me of Brent's relevant head coaching experience again?
Like, what are we expecting here?
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i think we're expecting Brent to come in and be the next Bob Stoops, except at K-State and not OU, which seems fair
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i wonder what the back story is behind him putting the out to K-State in his current contract. i know he came to k-state from Iowa, but he hasn't been at K-State for 22 years, he didn't play here, etc.
From what I've heard, there had been convos through the years between Bill and Jim, and also Currie and Jim. Probably just to gauge interest, but he felt he should put it in his contract.
Adding onto that, there have supposedly been zero convos for a while and definitely nothing since the Mustang showed up.
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Listen, we all love Brent. He's my first choice.
But the "brent or bust" people need to realize that he's far from a guaranty of success. He's never been a head coach, and while he's had great success with Dabo at Clemson, his last stint facing Big 12 offenses didn't exactly end well.
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No idea why people think Leavitt was so successful at USF. In the 5 years he was in the Big East he had a sub-.500 conference record, and never finished better than t-3rd or ranked in the final AP poll.
I'm sure he could lead us to a couple of 7-6 seasons and maybe a Cactus Bowl win.
Nobody's claiming he turned it into some dynasty. But he did build a program, completely from nothing, and make them respectable. In short, he's a very good d-coordinator with solid HC experience.
his 49th ranked defense is daunting
Up from 126th last year.
His Colorado defense last year was 19th. This year? 109th.
Anymore questions, Clams?
he’ll do much better at k state than oregon
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Gary barnett
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He is 71 years old.
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Listen, we all love Brent. He's my first choice.
But the "brent or bust" people need to realize that he's far from a guaranty of success. He's never been a head coach, and while he's had great success with Dabo at Clemson, his last stint facing Big 12 offenses didn't exactly end well.
Hey wait, are you talking about when he was co-OC with Brother Mike.
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guys Bill is coming back.
yeah.. other than it being "fun" to talk about he's coming back for another year
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This ass-hole hated K-State. Plus lead a corrupt Colorado team to pure crap hole. It's not to bright to recruit the first female football player and then cover up for the team raping her. This guy is a failed idiot.
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guys Bill is coming back.
yeah.. other than it being "fun" to talk about he's coming back for another year
The longer he stays, the more gross he gets.
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No idea why people think Leavitt was so successful at USF. In the 5 years he was in the Big East he had a sub-.500 conference record, and never finished better than t-3rd or ranked in the final AP poll.
I'm sure he could lead us to a couple of 7-6 seasons and maybe a Cactus Bowl win.
Nobody's claiming he turned it into some dynasty. But he did build a program, completely from nothing, and make them respectable. In short, he's a very good d-coordinator with solid HC experience.
In that sense he was successful. But his program hit a plateau once it entered a power conference. He would have a very low ceiling in the Big 12.
If he wants to come here as our D coordinator that would be fine, but no thanks on him being the HC.
...Right.
He literally was the first coach of an 1-AA/FCS football team. Got them to a BCS conference, and then "plateaued" at 8-9 win seasons. Remind me of Brent's relevant head coaching experience again?
Like, what are we expecting here?
Too easy. If he were a truly good coach he would have taken an FCS team to a BCS bowl using only players recruited from the Four Corners region.
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Is kstate planning on dropping down to fcs and trying to move up again?
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ty dlew
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I am way late in responding to a dlew post from yesterday but I don't think Beilema has a high ceiling because I don't think he reaches anywhere near the success he had at Wisconsin. The Big 10 offenses he faced then were far different from what he would face in the Big 12 today. I don't have a problem with Bielema being weird but I think he is also a generally shitty person.
My cut off for coaches is Les Miles. I think Les is weirder, not a shitty person, would win more than Bret, and we could definitely get him.
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Leavitt's praise comes from a couple of years where he had USF super high in the polls (#2 at one point, i think) before blowing it down the stretch. I think his success is overstated but I can see where it comes from.
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It's primarily from beating ku at home by 3 in 2008.
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I'm not sure how you can be gaga over Venables and meh to Brent. Venables has a similar DC track record as Brent, but also has quality HC experience.
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I am way late in responding to a dlew post from yesterday but I don't think Beilema has a high ceiling because I don't think he reaches anywhere near the success he had at Wisconsin. The Big 10 offenses he faced then were far different from what he would face in the Big 12 today. I don't have a problem with Bielema being weird but I think he is also a generally shitty person.
My cut off for coaches is Les Miles. I think Les is weirder, not a shitty person, would win more than Bret, and we could definitely get him.
What are we hoping for? A d-coordinator who has proven success against Big 12 offenses? How many of those people exist?
Venables' last defense at OU ranked 84th in total defense by the way.
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I am way late in responding to a dlew post from yesterday but I don't think Beilema has a high ceiling because I don't think he reaches anywhere near the success he had at Wisconsin. The Big 10 offenses he faced then were far different from what he would face in the Big 12 today. I don't have a problem with Bielema being weird but I think he is also a generally shitty person.
My cut off for coaches is Les Miles. I think Les is weirder, not a shitty person, would win more than Bret, and we could definitely get him.
I don't think Les would take the job, but if he's actually realistic, we couldn't possibly do better.
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The point with Venables is he is seen as a pretty strong recruiter and frankly that should be our primary focus. We simply can't do it with old men at their last stop.
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I am way late in responding to a dlew post from yesterday but I don't think Beilema has a high ceiling because I don't think he reaches anywhere near the success he had at Wisconsin. The Big 10 offenses he faced then were far different from what he would face in the Big 12 today. I don't have a problem with Bielema being weird but I think he is also a generally shitty person.
My cut off for coaches is Les Miles. I think Les is weirder, not a shitty person, would win more than Bret, and we could definitely get him.
What are we hoping for? A d-coordinator who has proven success against Big 12 offenses? How many of those people exist?
Venables' last defense at OU ranked 84th in total defense by the way.
I'm hoping for better than Les Miles or Les Miles. I don't think Bielema is that. I don't think he is better than more Bill either.
People also are giving him too much credit for playing in the SEC West. There is no reason to think playing Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Iowa State would lead to any more wins than playing Bama, Auburn, and LSU this year.
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The point with Venables is he is seen as a pretty strong recruiter and frankly that should be our primary focus. We simply can't do it with old men at their last stop.
That's a fair point, and I agree that he would probably recruit better than Leavitt here, but BV also had the luxury of recruiting to OU and Clemson for the last 20 years. I think it's unrealistic to think he could recruit at that level at K-State.
Recruiting is obviously important, but given K-State's inherent recruiting limitations (i.e. i don't foresee us ever being a top 10 recruiting destination), player development is also a huge factor.
BV is still my number 1, but aside from their age difference (which is what, 10 years?) and the assumed recruiting benefits of BV, their experience/accomplishments are basically a wash.
All I'm saying here is that if we were to fall-back to Leavitt, we're still getting a very solid coach. We could do a lot worse.
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I'd agree their actual track records are a wash. The perception of getting one or the other is vastly different.
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Leavitt is not a complete disaster, but it is an extremely meh hire.
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And the concept that our admin went out and struck a deal with him for that much is terrifying. It's Ron prince meets oscar Weber in the stupid hire checklist
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BV is my #1. At the same time, I have concerns. What kind of adult person needs to have someone else physically restrain them because they cannot control themselves while they are doing their job? SERIOUSLY???
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BV is my #1. At the same time, I have concerns. What kind of adult person needs to have someone else physically restrain them because they cannot control themselves while they are doing their job? SERIOUSLY???
Bo Pelini was a 9 win a season coach. Mangino had some, uh, self-control issues....I mean I just don't see it as that relevant.
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I don’t care about the perception of the hire. I care about getting a guy in here who can win a lot of games for us, and I think Leavitt would do that.
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I don’t care about the perception of the hire. I care about getting a guy in here who can win a lot of games for us, and I think Leavitt would do that.
It's not how you feel it's how you look
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I don’t care about the perception of the hire. I care about getting a guy in here who can win a lot of games for us, and I think Leavitt would do that.
That is literally what almost everyone is talking about. No one thinks a "splash" hire is only good because of media.
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I am way late in responding to a dlew post from yesterday but I don't think Beilema has a high ceiling because I don't think he reaches anywhere near the success he had at Wisconsin. The Big 10 offenses he faced then were far different from what he would face in the Big 12 today. I don't have a problem with Bielema being weird but I think he is also a generally shitty person.
My cut off for coaches is Les Miles. I think Les is weirder, not a shitty person, would win more than Bret, and we could definitely get him.
I don't think Les would take the job, but if he's actually realistic, we couldn't possibly do better.
Why not, he's looking and at this point will take any HC job that pays. He used to be OSU's coach before he went to LSU. So he knows how to win in the Big XII.
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I don’t care about the perception of the hire. I care about getting a guy in here who can win a lot of games for us, and I think Leavitt would do that.
That is literally what almost everyone is talking about. No one thinks a "splash" hire is only good because of media.
I was responding to lsoc who specifically stated the difference between JL and BV was perception.
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And Leavitt as interim would have been great for K-State football and great for Bill IMO. He looks dumb now going out and that is sad to me.
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The old goat wants his son to make millions the easy way. I'm sure the contract will pay Sean close to what dad is making.
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And Leavitt as interim would have been great for K-State football and great for Bill IMO. He looks dumb now going out and that is sad to me.
A HCIW made a ton of sense for the situation. Was the best argument in favor of the entire deal.
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Perhaps not surprisingly, I am really glad we didn't lock into some dumb HCIW with Leavitt. He's not a good enough or in demand enough coach to merit that kind of leverage over KSU.
If Leavitt wasn't from the Snyder coaching tree (which has essentially all but vanished), I doubt we'd look twice at him.
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And Leavitt as interim would have been great for K-State football and great for Bill IMO. He looks dumb now going out and that is sad to me.
A HCIW made a ton of sense for the situation. Was the best argument in favor of the entire deal.
Honestly, I'm getting more pissed the more I think about it. We'd be moving forward right now. Now we continue to stagnate. Bill may set the program back worse than the last time he retired.
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Would any coach be worse at handling a HCIW than Bill?
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Would any coach be worse at handling a HCIW than Bill?
Normally no, but this year with his health I don't think it would be as bad.
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I think Bill's restricting of his assistants from talking to the press would be a lot more infuriating if we had a HCIW that we all knew was basically coaching the team in Bill's place.
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My only problem with the HCIW scenario is that I'd like a staff overhaul and I think taking over after being HCIW makes that harder to do.
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The merit to HCIW isn't to lock down Leavitt, but to appear to have a plan and hopefully improve recruiting. Agree that it would make necessary staff changes harder.
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I think Bill's restricting of his assistants from talking to the press would be a lot more infuriating if we had a HCIW that we all knew was basically coaching the team in Bill's place.
See, I would assume Bill wouldn't be giving up any control at all.
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And Leavitt as interim would have been great for K-State football and great for Bill IMO. He looks dumb now going out and that is sad to me.
A HCIW made a ton of sense for the situation. Was the best argument in favor of the entire deal.
Honestly, I'm getting more pissed the more I think about it. We'd be moving forward right now. Now we continue to stagnate. Bill may set the program back worse than the last time he retired.
The idea that Bill rejected a good DC and hurt the program simply because he can’t accept Sean just being on staff rather than HC is infuriating. Seemed like positive outcome for everyone (except Bill I guess)
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My perception is that Bill loses a bunch of control as a result of this becoming public.
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My perception is that Bill loses a bunch of control as a result of this becoming public.
I agree, this was the worst possible scenario for Bill. Yeah, there are all plenty of "Bill can do no wrong" fans, but they aren't the majority.
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Has Sean been offered any other coaching gigs outside of Manhattan during Snyder 2.0?
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I heard Florida got rid of McElwain after only 2.5 seasons so they could have a shot at getting Sean Snyder.
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My perception is that Bill loses a bunch of control as a result of this becoming public.
My perception of Bill:
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thoughts on these fine (gross) gentleman?
mark helfirch
gary barnett
rick neuheisal
brady hoke
Holy crap
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thoughts on these fine (gross) gentleman?
mark helfirch
gary barnett
rick neuheisal
brady hoke
I don't think any of those make any sense.
id say helfrich does and maybe barnett, but im just throwing crap against the wall at this point
HOLY crap
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I have no idea why Barnett even gets mentioned. If we wanted a rape enabler, Art Briles is a much better coach.
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someone tell me why Bret would be a worse hire than Jim.
One's a proven loser. End of game.
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I have no idea why Barnett even gets mentioned. If we wanted a rape enabler, Art Briles is a much better coach.
That and he hasn't coached in 12 years.
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Who is on your shortlist, MIR?
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A friend of mine who is an Arkansas grad and fan said this about Bielema.
I’m a little torn. I actually like him personally and think he has a good vision for building a program. However, I think he is an average recruiter, though may fare better in Big 12 given his ties to program and fact that Alabama, Auburn, LSU et al suck all of the oxygen in recruiting. My biggest knock has been his inability to make in-game adjustments, prepare his guys to play on Saturday, and develop the players he does get.
Well that's a ringing endorsement. :lol: can't get the most out of his players and doesn't adjust. Where do I sign up?
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Who is on your shortlist, MIR?
Literally anyone who's never been fired
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I have no idea why Barnett even gets mentioned. If we wanted a rape enabler, Art Briles is a much better coach.
That and he hasn't coached in 12 years.
He also reeks of desperation. Dude lobbied hard for the KU job after Charlie.
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Who is on your shortlist, MIR?
Literally anyone who's never been fired
Sean it is!
FWIW, Beilema's lowest recruiting class during his time at arkansas was 28th.
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I think we should give Jim Tressel a call.
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My perception is that Bill loses a bunch of control as a result of this becoming public.
Final nail, he'll have zero external support to stay. I know I've said before that Taylor wouldn't have the clout to force Snyder to fire Dana and Hayes, I think this changes that.
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Who is on your shortlist, MIR?
Literally anyone who's never been fired
Sean it is!
FWIW, Beilema's lowest recruiting class during his time at arkansas was 28th.
I've never been one pouty about Sean. The fact is we have no idea what kind of head coach he'd be.
College football is littered with bad teams being led by good recruiters, and you know that. This little stat about Arkansas recruiting classes is the biggest indictment of Bert yet.
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Who is on your shortlist, MIR?
Literally anyone who's never been fired
Sean it is!
FWIW, Beilema's lowest recruiting class during his time at arkansas was 28th.
I've never been one pouty about Sean. The fact is we have no idea what kind of head coach he'd be.
College football is littered with bad teams being led by good recruiters, and you know that. This little stat about Arkansas recruiting classes is the biggest indictment of Bert yet.
I'm saying that that guy calling him an "average recruiter" is probably off-base. Bert didn't work out at Arkansas. No doubt about it. But that's kind of a shitty job. Petrino did well there, but it's a tough job. K-State is an easier spot to win at, in my imo.
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Arkansas seems like a place that should probably be getting top 30 recruiting classes to me.
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Who is on your shortlist, MIR?
Literally anyone who's never been fired
Sean it is!
FWIW, Beilema's lowest recruiting class during his time at arkansas was 28th.
I've never been one pouty about Sean. The fact is we have no idea what kind of head coach he'd be.
College football is littered with bad teams being led by good recruiters, and you know that. This little stat about Arkansas recruiting classes is the biggest indictment of Bert yet.
I'm saying that that guy calling him an "average recruiter" is probably off-base. Bert didn't work out at Arkansas. No doubt about it. But that's kind of a shitty job. Petrino did well there, but it's a tough job. K-State is an easier spot to win at, in my imo.
I don't care if he called him the world's best recruiter, he can't coach. How do you figure it's easier to win at K-State than it is at Arkansas? Is it the four non cons, the getting to play A&M on a neutral field every year, or the unbalanced schedule?
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How do you figure it's easier to win at K-State than it is at Arkansas? Is it the four non cons, the getting to play A&M on a neutral field every year, or the unbalanced schedule?
I figure it's easier to win at K-State than it is at Arkansas because according to Sagarin, Arkansas' SOS has been significantly tougher than K-State's during Bielema's tenure.
2017
Ark: 21 K-State: 62
2016
Ark: 11 K-State: 39
2015
Ark: 6 K-State: 51
2014
Ark: 4 K-State: 34
2013
Ark: 12 K-State: 34
2012:
Ark: 9 K-State: 14
AVG:
ARK: 10.5 K-State 39
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SOS isn't keeping him from being bowl eligible.
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SOS isn't keeping him from being bowl eligible.
It's certainly not keeping us from being bowl eligible either. The question was why I think it's easier to win in Manhattan than Fayetville.
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I'd take brett in a heartbeat
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SOS isn't keeping him from being bowl eligible.
It's certainly not keeping us from being bowl eligible either. The question was why I think it's easier to win in Manhattan than Fayetville.
I guess I think it might be easier to win 8 at Arkansas, but easier to win 12 in Manhattan.
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what if venables leaked this in an effort to get his name on the short list and make beaker and snyder look bad?
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Who is on your shortlist, MIR?
Literally anyone who's never been fired
Sean it is!
FWIW, Beilema's lowest recruiting class during his time at arkansas was 28th.
I've never been one pouty about Sean. The fact is we have no idea what kind of head coach he'd be.
College football is littered with bad teams being led by good recruiters, and you know that. This little stat about Arkansas recruiting classes is the biggest indictment of Bert yet.
I'm saying that that guy calling him an "average recruiter" is probably off-base. Bert didn't work out at Arkansas. No doubt about it. But that's kind of a shitty job. Petrino did well there, but it's a tough job. K-State is an easier spot to win at, in my imo.
I don't care if he called him the world's best recruiter, he can't coach. How do you figure it's easier to win at K-State than it is at Arkansas? Is it the four non cons, the getting to play A&M on a neutral field every year, or the unbalanced schedule?
And he never had a recruiting class in the top 30 at Wisconsin and won 10 (9.7) games per year for 7 years. So bad recruiting, good coaching there?
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I mean, in today's landscape, Wisky would've been playing in the Big ten champ game to be in the CFP playoffs 3 of his 7 years there.
And as well as Petrino did at Arky, the best he finished was in a tie 2nd place in the division (3rd or worse the other years). The SEC west has been brutal for awhile now.
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My perception is that Bill loses a bunch of control as a result of this becoming public.
Final nail, he'll have zero external support to stay. I know I've said before that Taylor wouldn't have the clout to force Snyder to fire Dana and Hayes, I think this changes that.
Snyder has fired one guy that I know of (and certainly no coordinators), and that's only because he was going behind Snyder's back and reporting stuff from practice, etc. to Currie. He is not going to fire anyone from this staff.
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My perception is that Bill loses a bunch of control as a result of this becoming public.
Final nail, he'll have zero external support to stay. I know I've said before that Taylor wouldn't have the clout to force Snyder to fire Dana and Hayes, I think this changes that.
Snyder has fired one guy that I know of (and certainly no coordinators), and that's only because he was going behind Snyder's back and reporting stuff from practice, etc. to Currie. He is not going to fire anyone from this staff.
Oh I'm aware. I didn't think Taylor could even ask before, I think we're at the point where he'll need to insist on it.
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And Leavitt as interim would have been great for K-State football and great for Bill IMO. He looks dumb now going out and that is sad to me.
A HCIW made a ton of sense for the situation. Was the best argument in favor of the entire deal.
I'm indifferent on Leavitt as many will be but Bill in his age and health had a clean opportunity to bookend his career with a pretty uncontroversial coach-in-waiting plan and set up for a good final season. Now his departure is going to be as messy as it was in 2005.
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KSO talked to McMurphy: https://kstateonline.podbean.com/e/kso-show-mcmurphy-report-november-16-2017/
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KSO talked to McMurphy: https://kstateonline.podbean.com/e/kso-show-mcmurphy-report-november-16-2017/
At first I was like "wtf is kso?" Then I was like "oh, k-state online" then I'm like "wtf is k-state online?" Then I'm like "dunno, but I'll listen tomorrow at work, just need to post in this thread as a reminder"
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KSO talked to McMurphy: https://kstateonline.podbean.com/e/kso-show-mcmurphy-report-november-16-2017/
coaching searches are so fun
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KSO talked to McMurphy: https://kstateonline.podbean.com/e/kso-show-mcmurphy-report-november-16-2017/
coaching searches are so fun
Until you end up with Ron. Or oscar.
But yeah.
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KSO talked to McMurphy: https://kstateonline.podbean.com/e/kso-show-mcmurphy-report-november-16-2017/
I enjoyed how Rob said the k-state job can be pretty good after Brett had been on and noted the many disadvantages it has(It gets cold in the Winter, omg)
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And Leavitt as interim would have been great for K-State football and great for Bill IMO. He looks dumb now going out and that is sad to me.
A HCIW made a ton of sense for the situation. Was the best argument in favor of the entire deal.
I'm indifferent on Leavitt as many will be but Bill in his age and health had a clean opportunity to bookend his career with a pretty uncontroversial coach-in-waiting plan and set up for a good final season. Now his departure is going to be as messy as it was in 2005.
Sad, but true.
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KSO talked to McMurphy: https://kstateonline.podbean.com/e/kso-show-mcmurphy-report-november-16-2017/
I enjoyed how Rob said the k-state job can be pretty good after Brett had been on and noted the many disadvantages it has(It gets cold in the Winter, omg)
I think he made some valid points. But also partially misguided. K-State is a hard job....but that's because coaching is a hard job. Almost anywhere. It's been proven time and time again that even with great advantages, sub-par coaches will get their asses handed to them from lesser schools with better coaches. We can't miff a coaching hire, but neither can Nebraska (his example) or any other school. And as far as Nebraska having a hard time, try not firing two coaches (Pelini, that other guy who's at Ohio somewere) who had reasonable success. And then when you do, don't rough ridin' hire that guy from Oregon State who basically was always a crap coach.
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McMurphy talked about Nubb being a better job. I have a hard time believing that. (Maybe I'm drinking the Kool-Aid.) We have 2-3 games every year in Texas. That gives us a leg up recruiting the closest hot bed to KS/NE. Now that the NEZ is complete isn't our facilities on par with them as well?
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McMurphy talked about Nubb being a better job. I have a hard time believing that. (Maybe I'm drinking the Kool-Aid.) We have 2-3 games every year in Texas. That gives us a leg up recruiting the closest hot bed to KS/NE. Now that the NEZ is complete isn't our facilities on par with them as well?
They have a lot more fans than we do and have a pretty easy road to conference championship games if they ever get their crap together.
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McMurphy talked about Nubb being a better job. I have a hard time believing that. (Maybe I'm drinking the Kool-Aid.) We have 2-3 games every year in Texas. That gives us a leg up recruiting the closest hot bed to KS/NE. Now that the NEZ is complete isn't our facilities on par with them as well?
They have a lot more fans than we do and have a pretty easy road to conference championship games if they ever get their crap together.
Plus they are the biggest sporting thing in the state, the only P5 football school, spend $20 mil more on athletics than K-State, and won 3 NCs in 4 years just 25 years ago.
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Also, don't overlook their history. It's getting more ancient by the year, but tradition is huge in college sports. Huge. It's a better job, but it's not like they are at Texas's level or something.
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Mike Norvell
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Just realized proud Paul is Bert’s DC. That staff has K-State written all over it.
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The recruiting coordinator was KState strength coach and grad assistant in Snyder 1.
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The recruiting coordinator was KState strength coach and grad assistant in Snyder 1.
Plus Michael Smith.
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The recruiting coordinator was KState strength coach and grad assistant in Snyder 1.
Plus Michael Smith.
Yep. His staff is full of EMAW.
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yeah now way in hell you can compare the 2
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The recruiting coordinator was KState strength coach and grad assistant in Snyder 1.
Plus Michael Smith.
Yep. His staff is full of EMAW.
That group of misfit toys have put together a record you'd expect
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Jim Mora axed. Would take. Not even gross.
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I think it's positive Leavitt still insisted on that contract out clause at Oregon after bill screwed up his hciw deal.
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I'm not sure how you can be gaga over Venables and meh to Brent. Venables has a similar DC track record as Brent, but also has quality HC experience.
Are brent and venables different people?
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I'm not sure how you can be gaga over Venables and meh to Brent. Venables has a similar DC track record as Brent, but also has quality HC experience.
Are brent and venables different people?
Yes
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Who is brent there?
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Who is brent there?
I think he meant Bert or Bret
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yes i meant bert or bret.
a couple years ago i was convinced i was becoming dyslexic and it was terrifying. that paranoia is rearing its ugly head again.
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Jim Mora axed. Would take. Not even gross.
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He might be the grossest, literally everyone hates him
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Yes, he's a cry baby bad person.
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No Mora.
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The 5 coaches listed in that CBS article about the emails within the K-State AD:
Gross but could talk myself into: Leavitt
Gross/Rapey but hot offense, could maybe talk into?: Tulsa coach Philip Montgomery
Grossest, would never talk myself into: Army coach Jeff Monken
And the other two are hot coaches that have moved up: South Florida coach Willie Taggart and Oklahoma offensive coordinator Lincoln Riley.
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Jim Mora axed. Would take. Not even gross.
Hard pass.
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It's been reported Kevin Sumlin will be out after this weekend's game against LSU.
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Bill would never let Cry Baby Mora coach here.
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It's been reported Kevin Sumlin will be out after this weekend's game against LSU.
Not that gross! Would take enthusiastically
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It's been reported Kevin Sumlin will be out after this weekend's game against LSU.
Not that gross! Would take enthusiastically
If the reports are true about Sumlin, he may need a year off first.
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It's been reported Kevin Sumlin will be out after this weekend's game against LSU.
Not that gross! Would take enthusiastically
If the reports are true about Sumlin, he may need a year off first.
What reports are these? He and his coaches were completely caught off guard.
https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/11/21/texas-am-kevin-sumlin-fired-lsu-assistant-coach-recruits
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This is great Mike Leach. Totally on board with him as a KSU wildcat.
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21516592
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It's been reported Kevin Sumlin will be out after this weekend's game against LSU.
Not that gross! Would take enthusiastically
If the reports are true about Sumlin, he may need a year off first.
What reports are these? He and his coaches were completely caught off guard.
https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/11/21/texas-am-kevin-sumlin-fired-lsu-assistant-coach-recruits
I misspoke, meant rumors, not reports. Lot of rumors of problem drinking. I don’t think that should disqualify him, but I do think he wouldn’t be at his best right at first after quitting (should that be in the Cards)
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rex ryan coached at ksu before
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It's been reported Kevin Sumlin will be out after this weekend's game against LSU.
Not that gross! Would take enthusiastically
If the reports are true about Sumlin, he may need a year off first.
What reports are these? He and his coaches were completely caught off guard.
https://www.si.com/college-football/2017/11/21/texas-am-kevin-sumlin-fired-lsu-assistant-coach-recruits
I misspoke, meant rumors, not reports. Lot of rumors of problem drinking. I don’t think that should disqualify him, but I do think he wouldn’t be at his best right at first after quitting (should that be in the Cards)
yes its been long rumored that sumlin is basically sark but not as public about it
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good for him
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What's gross about sumlin? I mean who wouldn't be driven to drink by that pretend army lunatic cult fanbase?
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What's gross about sumlin? I mean who wouldn't be driven to drink by that pretend army lunatic cult fanbase?
Would probably throw in the racist part before that.
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What's gross about sumlin? I mean who wouldn't be driven to drink by that pretend army lunatic cult fanbase?
Would probably throw in the racist part before that.
Both great points.
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I'm struggling to see why Sumlin is anything other than gross and smelly relative to the coaching pool at large
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Great recruiter.
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If he loses to LSU he will have a .520 conference record in 6 years.
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And that includes Manziel. Woof.
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If he loses to LSU he will have a .520 conference record in 6 years.
I mean, that's better than the 10 seasons before he arrived...
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(https://i.imgur.com/IUXfwga.png)
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Is joker saying sweaty Geary is far superior to Kevin sumlin?
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Sounds like Sumlin is UCLA's fallback if they don't get Chip.
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He might just crush ass at ucla
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This is great Mike Leach. Totally on board with him as a KSU wildcat.
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21516592
i hope we absolutely piss pound this rough ridin' moron on saturday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI2wWawEAxI
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Is joker saying sweaty Geary is far superior to Kevin sumlin?
I'm saying maybe there's not a lot of difference between sweaty Gary and thirsty Kev.
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Is joker saying sweaty Geary is far superior to Kevin sumlin?
I'm saying maybe there's not a lot of difference between sweaty Gary and thirsty Kev.
With the exception being one of them has won a P5 conference title and wins in conference at a far greater clip?
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Is joker saying sweaty Geary is far superior to Kevin sumlin?
I'm saying maybe there's not a lot of difference between sweaty Gary and thirsty Kev.
With the exception being one of them has won a P5 conference title and wins in conference at a far greater clip?
Not a huge difference in their P5 conference records. Going into this weekend Sweaty is .585 and Thirsty is .532 in conference.
Sweaty's conference title was impressive that season and I do believe he's the better overall coach. Just saying Thirsty isn't all that far behind.
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Is joker saying sweaty Geary is far superior to Kevin sumlin?
I'm saying maybe there's not a lot of difference between sweaty Gary and thirsty Kev.
With the exception being one of them has won a P5 conference title and wins in conference at a far greater clip?
Not a huge difference in their P5 conference records. Going into this weekend Sweaty is .585 and Thirsty is .532 in conference.
Sweaty's conference title was impressive that season and I do believe he's the better overall coach. Just saying Thirsty isn't all that far behind.
I would argue that most fans would prefer Gary's collection of extreme good and bad seasons to Thirsty's consistent mediocrity.
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Is joker saying sweaty Geary is far superior to Kevin sumlin?
I'm saying maybe there's not a lot of difference between sweaty Gary and thirsty Kev.
With the exception being one of them has won a P5 conference title and wins in conference at a far greater clip?
Not a huge difference in their P5 conference records. Going into this weekend Sweaty is .585 and Thirsty is .532 in conference.
Sweaty's conference title was impressive that season and I do believe he's the better overall coach. Just saying Thirsty isn't all that far behind.
I would argue that most fans would prefer Gary's collection of extreme good and bad seasons to Thirsty's consistent mediocrity.
I think you're right and I would prefer the same.
It would be interesting to see how Thirsty would fare in the Big 12 though. This conference seems to suit his style a little better.
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Is joker saying sweaty Geary is far superior to Kevin sumlin?
I'm saying maybe there's not a lot of difference between sweaty Gary and thirsty Kev.
:lol: gE needs more jokers
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This is great Mike Leach. Totally on board with him as a KSU wildcat.
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=21516592
i hope we absolutely piss pound this rough ridin' moron on saturday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI2wWawEAxI
The most annoying phenomenon of the 2017 college football season is the weekly notification I get from twitter when 10 or so people I follow like a clip from Leach's press availability.
College football coaches are so dull that this dude gives recycled takes on candy corn and weddings and people act like that dude is one of the original kings of comedy.
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Bert fired before he had his post game presser.
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https://twitter.com/Brett_McMurphy/status/934204373105893376
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Bryan McGinnis, and there's a lot of smoke there when you see who he's worked under recently.
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There's a super obscure reference that I recognize.
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What does a Director of Football Operations even do?
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What does a Director of Football Operations even do?
https://careertrend.com/about-6401089-job-description-football-operations.html (https://careertrend.com/about-6401089-job-description-football-operations.html)
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Bryan McGinnis isn't just any ordinary DOFO.
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Paul Rhodes us on the market again.
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Bryan McGinnis isn't just any ordinary DOFO.
Inquiring minds want to know!
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Bryan McGinnis isn't just any ordinary DOFO.
Inquiring minds want to know!
:surprised:
(https://i.imgur.com/lpIhEm7.jpg)
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gE with a nice page 1 search hit. Trending!
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Nope on Mike Riley