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Title: This coaching staff is
Post by: PIPE on October 07, 2017, 10:09:45 PM
Old and outdated.

Let’s run the worst 2 minute offense in the history of football. Oh, wait, we have never been able to run that under Snyder/ dimel

I want someone that brings a creativity on offense and quits running 1000 QB draws
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: chum1 on October 07, 2017, 10:17:18 PM
I hope you want Sean because you're getting Sean.
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: Pett on October 07, 2017, 10:29:47 PM
Sean's audition isn't going well. Now 18-13 since '15
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: SteelCat on October 07, 2017, 10:32:40 PM
a mixed bag!  Have some good coaches, but have a very bad offensive play caller.  We are not good enough to be predictable.  Also, extremely disappointed in whoever chose to run Pringle onto the field to begin the game after his last two games, and after his drop early, should be done.  Must be accountable for results or you lose the team. 
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 07, 2017, 10:33:30 PM
The worst is our "check" play calling.

We check into the same play and the defense switches to defend it. We show our defense early (eg, the same blitz we ran 40 times) they check, and we stay in it.

They're rough ridin' clueless
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 07, 2017, 10:34:14 PM
a mixed bag!  Have some good coaches, but have a very bad offensive play caller.  We are not good enough to be predictable.  Also, extremely disappointed in whoever chose to run Pringle onto the field to begin the game after his last two games, and after his drop early, should be done.  Must be accountable for results or you lose the team. 


you sound like an old person
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: MakeItRain on October 07, 2017, 10:36:37 PM
Old and outdated.

Let’s run the worst 2 minute offense in the history of football. Oh, wait, we have never been able to run that under Snyder/ dimel

I want someone that brings a creativity on offense and quits running 1000 QB draws

The two minute offense thing is a really good point. When was the last time we executed it to win or tie a game?
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: Pett on October 07, 2017, 10:36:52 PM
Sean's audition isn't going well. Now 18-13 since '15

and could easily drop to 18-15 in a few weeks
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: WildcatPower on October 07, 2017, 10:39:32 PM
I have never been this more mad and pissed, ever over a Cat game, until today.  This was a rough ridin' joke of a coaching staff.

We have a offensive coordinator who does not show ANY kind of a creative side and game planning at all. He insists on running our QB to the ground, and does not utilize any of the other skill positions.  He insists on using Barnes and not using Silmon and/or Warmack on certain situations.  He just demonstrated, by far, the worst 2 minute offense in the history of college football on that drive.

We have a defensive coordinator who is a red-head bastard father of Tim Tibesar, who insists on playing the bend but don't break defense.  He insists on utilizing Jayd Kirby and Trent Tanking, arguably two of the SLOWEST players (excluding O and D linemen) over Elijah Sullivan and Elijah Walker.  He insists on playing off 10 yards off of the line of scrimmage, where Texas (and other teams) has exploited.  He insists on not even blitzing unless he really has to.  Worst of all, that last drive, there was no physical toughness at all.  They folded like a cheap damn lawn chair.  He just flat out embarrassed the glorious history of the "Lynch Mob."

Both of these damn jokers need to go.  I'm tired of this Mickey Mouse bullcrap.
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: bshea85 on October 07, 2017, 10:39:52 PM
Old and outdated.

Let’s run the worst 2 minute offense in the history of football. Oh, wait, we have never been able to run that under Snyder/ dimel

I want someone that brings a creativity on offense and quits running 1000 QB draws

The two minute offense thing is a really good point. When was the last time we executed it to win or tie a game?

I don't have any recent memories of such.  However, the announcers bafflement at our 2-minute play-calling is never dull.
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 07, 2017, 10:46:40 PM
I tried mentioning it in regards to the Vandy game but _fan told me I was being silly :don'tcare:
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: MakeItRain on October 07, 2017, 10:47:30 PM
The offensive game plans of the two teams were laughable when compared to each other. They did a lot of very good things, we did the same old crap. I think we absolutely have the better offensive players but they had the much better game plan.

I also found the use of the QBs interesting. Their starter won last week, but got hurt. They benched him for a freshman and had a completely different plan than they did last week. We played our hurt guy and ran the same stuff despite him being hurt.

Sky Thompson better hope Dana is gone after this year, if not he's got three years of concussions, shoulder surgeries, twisted knees, and perpetually sliced up elbows.
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: stunted on October 07, 2017, 10:48:13 PM
what's our record when we're down at half? they never show that one
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: bshea85 on October 07, 2017, 10:53:18 PM
The offensive game plans of the two teams were laughable when compared to each other. They did a lot of very good things, we did the same old crap. I think we absolutely have the better offensive players but they had the much better game plan.

I also found the use of the QBs interesting. Their starter won last week, but got hurt. They benched him for a freshman and had a completely different plan than they did last week. We played our hurt guy and ran the same stuff despite him being hurt.

Sky Thompson better hope Dana is gone after this year, if not he's got three years of concussions, shoulder surgeries, twisted knees, and perpetually sliced up elbows.

Snyder ball always turns bright and promising young QBs into concussed cripples.  Remember that gnarly hit Klein took (I think it was against OSU) back in 2012?  He wasn't the same after that.  Ertz could easily be a better throwing QB, but his shoulders and knee are all banged up.  Jake Waters hurt himself and lost the long-ball.  Different QB, same story.  If I was a QB, I'd stay the hell away from KSU.
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 07, 2017, 11:09:44 PM
That TP needs to die. There are many programs thst run the qb as often as we do, and their QB's are fine.

It's rough ridin' football. You get tackled.
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 07, 2017, 11:58:47 PM
That TP needs to die. There are many programs thst run the qb as often as we do, and their QB's are fine.

It's rough ridin' football. You get tackled.


So you want the talking point to die that our coaches run our QBs into the ground, but then you admit that ours are in worse shape than other  teams' QBs? To what do you attribute the difference, exactly, if it's a talking point that has no validity?
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: DOD Take 2 on October 08, 2017, 12:16:37 AM
Last 2 min drive I can recall was TCU in 2013. We suck at it
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: SkinnyBenny on October 08, 2017, 12:24:54 AM
The second half and two OTs were pretty awful to watch and it's really all anyone's talking about right now because it was the difference in the game. That first half, however, our offense was actually mixing things up a bit and got me legitimately excited. So I guess the coaching staff gets a little credit for that one.
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: MakeItRain on October 08, 2017, 12:27:03 AM
Last 2 min drive I can recall was TCU in 2013. We suck at it

Yes, there's one, good call.
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: ELL3 on October 08, 2017, 12:53:51 AM
Sean's audition isn't going well. Now 18-13 since '15

3 of those against FCS schools, losing record versus P 5's
Sean is not getting this job, a four win season is not getting him promoted
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: scottwildcat on October 08, 2017, 07:15:15 AM
Sean's audition isn't going well. Now 18-13 since '15

3 of those against FCS schools, losing record versus P 5's
Sean is not getting this job, a four win season is not getting him promoted
Bill isn’t going to retire after a 4-8 season. He is too selfish and egotistical to go out like that again. He’ll go out after a winning season, he’ll be on the verge of death, or he’ll get forced out.

And the last option isn’t happening.
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: GoodForAnother on October 08, 2017, 08:38:30 AM
Bill is past done. This team has talent. Inexcusable
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: EMAWzifried on October 08, 2017, 08:50:05 AM
We have talented D-backs who can make plays when given the chance. Don't understand the give-up-first-down cushion defense until the red zone.
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: CHONGS on October 08, 2017, 11:39:37 AM
We have talented D-backs who can make plays when given the chance. Don't understand the give-up-first-down cushion defense until the red zone.
Its because they need the cushion or they would get torched deep by WRs with a modicum of ability + speed.   This has played out every year for like the past decade.
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on October 08, 2017, 01:30:27 PM
It's also because we essentially use one safety as a LB
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: Karlen on October 08, 2017, 07:15:40 PM
Bill is past done. This team has talent. Inexcusable

He was done halfway through 2013, but won't leave.
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: kso_FAN on October 08, 2017, 07:34:42 PM
Losing close games sucks. The program is far from falling apart, but the results aren't matching the expectations given returning QB, etc. I understand the frustration fun fans though, but I'm not going to meltdown.
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: slackcat on October 08, 2017, 08:38:46 PM
this thread was so predictable. state just went two ot's with texas on their turf. did so with a wounded qb starter. and it's time to demean LHC Bill Snyder because he's 78.

you turds doing that won't accomplish crap by comparison to what LHC Bill Snyder has done in his career here at k-state. you're just weak children, cowering behind pc names calling for the termination of a legend. my god!

fans are so fickle. it's makes my ass tired. emaw that, dudes!
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: catastrophe on October 08, 2017, 08:44:31 PM
The funny thing is that after seeing all the Big 12 craziness already, I'm still 75% sure we beat TCU this week.
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: OK_Cat on October 08, 2017, 08:55:30 PM
this thread was so predictable. state just went two ot's with texas on their turf. did so with a wounded qb starter. and it's time to demean LHC Bill Snyder because he's 78.

you turds doing that won't accomplish crap by comparison to what LHC Bill Snyder has done in his career here at k-state. you're just weak children, cowering behind pc names calling for the termination of a legend. my god!

fans are so fickle. it's makes my ass tired. emaw that, dudes!

Go be ok with mediocrity elsewhere idiot


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Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: 420seriouscat69 on October 08, 2017, 10:13:38 PM
Lol ok cat post
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: MakeItRain on October 08, 2017, 10:46:24 PM
We have talented D-backs who can make plays when given the chance. Don't understand the give-up-first-down cushion defense until the red zone.
Its because they need the cushion or they would get torched deep by WRs with a modicum of ability + speed.   This has played out every year for like the past decade.

I don't mean to sound like a dick but what in the world are you basing this on? How often have you seen these guys in person? DJamer Reed is one of the fastest players in the conference, he doesn't get thrown on much, but when he does, he's more than proven his closing speed. Enough people have called him the one of if not the best corner in the conference that at some point I'd think a novice at evaluating talent would believe them.

I know consistently trashing the players helps fit your consistent narrative but maybe, for the sake of something, could you find something, anything, our players are at least decent at?
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: SdK on October 08, 2017, 10:57:05 PM
I was talking to Canary about this at the Baylor game. Why did we stop bump and run coverage and having guys on an island? Dyshod Carter was one of my favorites.
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: delerioustyme on October 09, 2017, 02:12:49 AM
I was talking to Canary about this at the Baylor game. Why did we stop bump and run coverage and having guys on an island? Dyshod Carter was one of my favorites.
Because our coordinators are rough ridin’ morons.  Tom Hayes won’t change his game plan, keeps it the same whether it’s vs. Texas Tech or Navy.  We always play the bend don’t break bs.  And Dimel couldn’t call a game if his life depended on it.  I thought Dino Babers running Trung Candidate on toss sweeps to the short side of the field for Arizona back in 98’ was bad.  We call sweeps with a FB to the short side of the field.  Still waiting for Dimel and Snyder to open up that playbook they always talk about.  Until then, it’s tecmo bowl up & A, left & B bullshit all day long. 


He trippin' so much, fans gonna begin to think he done fell off!
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: CaliforniaLonghorn on October 09, 2017, 03:13:43 AM
Bill is past done. This team has talent. Inexcusable


Former K State assistant coach Bret Bielema will
be available this offseason.
Before you reply with he sucks let me explain the situation.
Bielema inherited an Arkansas team very much like Danny Ford did in the 90's
Ford was post UT/SWC rivalry
Bielema was post LSU rivalry.

Arkansas needs that school to hate and because LSU wanted to play Aggy on Thanksgiving it left the Piggies without a team to hate.
Arkansas without a team to hate is lost.

Danny Ford was a NC coach and Bielema out coached him.
If you factor in that the UT rivalry meant much more than they are about even.

Unlike Danny Ford in the 90's Bret Bielema wants to coach still.
I think a proven winner who wants to prove he can win again would be perfect at K State
Not to mention he has coached there before
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: pvegs on October 09, 2017, 07:17:25 AM
Old and outdated.

Let’s run the worst 2 minute offense in the history of football. Oh, wait, we have never been able to run that under Snyder/ dimel

I want someone that brings a creativity on offense and quits running 1000 QB draws

The two minute offense thing is a really good point. When was the last time we executed it to win or tie a game?

i know exactly when it was. http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=333202306. waters lead a drive and cantele hit the game-winner and like broke his rough ridin' hand on the turf celebrating. was awesome. and stunning. bc we never do that crap.
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: sonofdaxjones on October 09, 2017, 08:39:31 AM
The funny things is, throughout the early years of Snyder 1.0.

With a rare exception.   K-State were masters of the 2  minute offense, matriculating the ball down the field using side line routes etc. etc.   

It may not have always worked out, but the team took the field with a plan in mind and worked to execute that plan.
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: meow meow on October 09, 2017, 08:58:41 AM
i would absolutely take Bret Bielema.
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on October 09, 2017, 09:09:28 AM
i would absolutely take Bret Bielema.

Sean would be better.
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: chum1 on October 09, 2017, 09:29:54 AM
I think Bielema may have a $15M buy out.

$15M :lol:
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: pissclams on October 09, 2017, 09:38:38 AM
bielema's wife is pretty fun
Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: CaliforniaLonghorn on October 09, 2017, 10:41:37 AM
I think Bielema may have a $15M buy out.

$15M :lol:


He is finished in Fayetteville.
He may be one of five coaches fired in the SEC during the season or after.

Title: Re: This coaching staff is
Post by: PIPE on October 09, 2017, 11:23:28 AM
this thread was so predictable. state just went two ot's with texas on their turf. did so with a wounded qb starter. and it's time to demean LHC LHC Bill Snyder because he's 78.

you turds doing that won't accomplish crap by comparison to what LHC LHC Bill Snyder has done in his career here at k-state. you're just weak children, cowering behind pc names calling for the termination of a legend. my god!

fans are so fickle. it's makes my ass tired. emaw that, dudes!

Go somewhere else and play patty cake with Dimel and Hayes.......